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“Poor construction, improper design, substandard materials and lack of maintenance have caused the failure of seven of eight U.S.-funded Iraq reconstruction projects that were recently reviewed by the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, according to an inspector general report.”
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/30/iraq.reconstruction/index.html
Some of the “good news” from Iraq.
He is on CSPAN right now.
Associated Press
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear the case of two Guantanamo Bay prisoners who want to challenge the legality of military commissions.
Anybody have any comments on the George Tennet interview last night on “60 Minutes”? I personally found it very insightful into the Bushie WhiteHouse. Sounds like a group of war mongers to me. Trying to figure out the best way to manipulate the intelligence into the best way to build the case for war. If you have to build a case(and there is not a glaring need) then you are lying. So right wingers I await your response.
Republican,
“Cosmos refuses to give his degree or education because he has none to offer.”http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/04/open_thread_28.html#comment-68025508
Thank you for again proving that you don’t read my posts.http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/04/open_thread_24.html#comment-67736352
Republican: “Or that Antarctica is melting…but it’s only a few ice shelves on the northwestern part of antarctica.
Looks like Republican is UNABLE to understand that different LATITUDES have different climates. Ross Ice shelf is over 10 degrees south of the Peninsula.
Republican seems to believe that Kansas and southern Canada should have IDENTICAL climates.
Republican: “Cosmos has a fuzzy memory when it comes to cyclic Global Climate change.”
I’ve not only acknowledged past climate changes, I’ve CHALLENGED you to find a time in the past similar to today.
(repost)Your key problem is you keep insisting that past events explain what has NEVER happened before on Earth.
Humans have pushed CO2 from 280 ppm to 380 ppm — HIGHER than it’s ever been in the past 650,000 years. We’ve caused a 150% increase in methane, plus added potent manufactured CFC’s, SF6, etc.
Humans HAVE modified Earth’s atmosphere, and it’s greenhouse effect.
The graphs on page 11 of http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf explain the observed warming.
Your ramblings about ancient climate events, that happened under different conditions, do NOT.
Your hatred of the U.N. and the carbon tax seems to prevent you from seeing the truth of the science.
Interesting article on blogging, women, and harrassment:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/29/AR2007042901555.html?hpid=topnews
Republican,
“Polar bear populations are growing not shrinking on the whole. Cosmos shows a photo of a single polar bear adrift on a piece of ice and calls it science.”
Are you unable to read my earlier posts?Or do you just enjoy lying about what I post?
(repost)’Arctic sea ice on the wane: Now what?”http://nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov/articles/2006/2006_seaice.html“NSIDC scientist Mark Serreze said, “The reduction in summer sea ice is a bad omen for animals like the polar bear, which need sea ice for their survival.” ”
‘Polar bears drown as ice shelf melts’http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article767459.ece
‘Drowning polar bears worry researchers’http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=2246
‘Scientists Sound Warning on Global Warming’http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Science/story?id=1407585“A survey by the U.S. Mineral Management Service has recorded elevated numbers of polar bears drowning. Some have been found swimming far out in the warming Arctic sea as the sea ice pulls back farther from land and the bears try to swim to shore.”
‘Polar Bears Face Serious ThreatBut scientists say there is time to save them, and the polar ice caps’http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2007&m=January&x=20070104134253mlenuhret0.3304254
Just curious, Cosmos and Republican, how many times do you guys think that you have posted essentially the same post with regard to your respective positions on global warming?Doesn’t seem that either have moved much toward the other’s view. Which begs the question for me, what is the point?
I used to think it was duty to correct false information here. But that is a never-ending, not-well-compensated, job. Just saying…
And for those of you who think banning guns is such a great idea…
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in AustraliaHi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent .Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.(Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in “successfully ridding Australian society of guns.” You won’t see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.Take note Americans, before it’s too late!
Hey XXX,
The boy and I completed our CCH course yesterday and got our certificate. It was a very interesting course taught by a police officer with 27 years experience.
Some of the statistics that he presented were very interesting! Backed up the contentions of the Aussie in your post. I learned quite a bit, he changed my overall perception of concealed carry.
Hank
PS Ask the boy about my grouping on the range!
Steven Davis,
I think it’s very wrong to make false statements about what someone has posted.
For example, Republican’s totally bogus claim: “Cosmos shows a photo of a single polar bear adrift on a piece of ice and calls it science”.
That’s a lie about MY opinion, and NOT what I’ve posted here in the past.
SD, thank you for that post about the blogging. It is so true. Some scary stuff has happened to me in the past. I used to chat, but chat became a porn ad magnet. Most of the groups I participate in are private. But I found out this week that they’re not impermeable to people with very bad intentions.
Maintain your anonymity.
Cosmos is just sore because he doesn’t have anything above an 8th grade Science education to back up his claims.
Perhaps Cosmos should investigate plant root leaching methane recently discovered. He might find something in common with his gaseous, bloated commentary.
Republican,
I’ve got the top climate scientists worldwide to back up my claims.
You’ve only got Lindzen, with his obviously inaccurate op-eds, and a few other skeptics.
Your lies about my education and my posts proves that you’re impotent, and unable to back up your claims.
Republican,
Why do you constantly say Cosmos is a high school dropout? Do you have facts to back you up? Or is this just baiting someone you disagree with?
Tom,
Republican falsely attacks me because he’s powerless to defend his opinions.
As I’ve mentioned before, the IPCC reports don’t include the latest info.
‘Arctic sea ice melting much faster, experts findStudy indicates that U.N. reports on warming are too conservative’http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18398690
Hi Cosmos,
It’s not my intent to insert myself into the climate argument. I don’t have the time to sufficiently educate myself on the science and policy to contribute much of anything to the debate.
What I’m interested in here is Republican’s motivation for constantly referencing your education.
Republican, I await your response.
Republican had his chance to take on an expert at the Library last Monday.
He chose not to attend because he knew that his crap would get him laughed out of the room.
And thanks to THE EAGLE for giving us front page coverage in Friday’s paper.
Kansans spread the word on global warmingBY BRENT D. WISTROMThe Wichita Eagle
In a dark room in Wichita’s Central Library downtown, about 25 people stare at an image of planet Earth as it shrinks to a dot in the galaxy. The glow of the image lights their faces as Susan Pereverzoff explains how the Earth is in danger because a blanket of gases we can hardly see is trapping heat, melting ice and changing the planet.
“The evidence just keeps piling up,” she says, using Al Gore’s slideshow from the Oscar-winning documentary “An Inconvenient Truth” to support her story.
During the next hour, she rolls through dozens of slides. Bar graphs chart carbon dioxide emissions skyrocketing, average high temperatures increasing and glaciers receding.
A woman in the middle of the dark room whispers, “That’s sick.”
This scene is playing out in church basements, classrooms and libraries across the United States.
Gore, the former presidential candidate turned documentary star, has trained about 1,000 people through the Climate Project to spread the word about global warming.
Pereverzoff is one of two Wichitans who traveled to Nashville late last year for a 2 ½-day training session.
The other is Ed Cook, a semi-retired radiologist with a 6-foot-long shelf of environmental books in his house. A few years ago, the 65-year-old bought a Toyota Prius, a hybrid car, to reduce the amount of carbon his vehicle emits.
He felt inspired to make a global warming presentation of his own on the drive home from seeing “An Inconvenient Truth.”
When he found out Gore was training people, he applied.
Pereverzoff is a former Canadian government employee. She moved to Wichita when her husband got a job in the aerospace industry here.
She got tired of hearing about the climate change issue. Then she saw “An Inconvenient Truth” and started thinking about how to organize and spread the word.
She tries to be an example.
She rode her bike to a newspaper interview and said she walks or cycles instead of driving whenever she can.
“It kind of makes me feel a little bit more like part of the community,” she said.
Defending the message
At the Nashville sessions, Gore gave the full scientific explanation behind “An Inconvenient Truth.”
Perhaps befitting the long-winded stereotype he has acquired through the years, the full-length version is nine hours long.
It prepared Pereverzoff and Cook to present and defend the their stories about global warming.
Their data on Kansas startles some of the people who hear it.
It shows the average temperature could increase by 3 degrees by 2100 if global warming continues.
That could mean up to $7.3 billion in agricultural losses if farmers have to switch to crops that can handle warmer air and drier soil, according to the National Wildlife Federation.
And only three of the 400-plus cities that have signed on to the Kyoto Protocol — the international greenhouse gas reduction treaty the United States refused to sign in 2001 — are in Kansas.
Wichita is not one of them.
Pereverzoff uses EPA data to show Kansas has an unusually high amount of carbon dioxide — CO2 — per capita.
Kansas emissions were 8.4 million metric tons of carbon equivalent per capita, compared to the national average of 6.4 million per capita, according to 1990 figures on the EPA Web site.
Kansas is the 32nd-most populous state. It ranks 24th in the nation for CO2 output, according to 2005 EPA data. And it’s 31st for total energy consumption, according to federal figures from 2003.
To the choir
Pereverzoff and Cook, both volunteers, see few skeptics as they go from church groups to neighborhood meetings with their slideshows.
But the naysayers are out there. There’s no shortage of Web sites debating the human role in warming. And some say the worst-case scenario is getting all the attention.
“Some people you may never convince,” Pereverzoff said while sipping tea at a Starbucks earlier this week. “And you have to accept that.”
But in her lifetime, she said, she has seen the skeptics shrink to a minority — both on the streets and in government.
Nora Tang, 26, sat in the middle of the room at the presentation in the library. Afterward, she said she works at an oil company with people she thinks would dispute the effects of global warming.
“There’s so much ignorance out there,” she said. “I wish more people would come to presentations like this.”
A moral issue
Pereverzoff said she thinks Gore’s message is a moderate view — one that recognizes a problem but doesn’t preach doom and gloom.
Cook said the issue goes beyond governments and scientists.
“I think global warming is really more of a moral problem than it is a political one,” he said.
For example, he said, a 5-degree change could alter the planet dramatically — for the worse. And the change would hit poor, developing countries near the equator hardest. Potable water is harder to find there, and many low-lying coastal areas could quickly be affected by rising sea levels.
“I just don’t think we should leave our children and grandchildren that kind of mess,” Cook said.
http://www.kansas.com/196/story/55690.html
My reference is that in an agreement I gave my education and Cosmos was supposed to give his. I gave mine and he ridiculed it for not being a Natural or Physical science major.
Cosmos has yet to divulge his education background even though there was an agreement to do so.
Very dishonorable. I just want to show what a hypocrite Cosmos really is.
I chose not to attend that meeting on Global Warming because I was quite ill that day and the preceding days.
What is yours?
Interesting . . . illness didn’t stop Republican from posting eight times on Sunday the 22nd . . .
Maybe he means mentally ill . . . I could believe that.
Having another acute delusional episode, Republican?
That’s why you need to stay on your meds . . .
Way to go Hank and Nathan.
Hank, you’re not going to embarrass me next time we go to the range, are you?
I need to go get my training…been too broke lately paying for a wedding and honeymoon. (and too busy, lol!)
I’m looking for a .22 to take the class with, a Colt Commander series or something like that. I don’t think the .50 Mag or the Casul are good choices to qualify.
I took Momma’s .38 special. It’s a sweet gun and I have about 2000 rounds of wad cutter for it. I could pretty much cover my group with my hand.
We went to the Bullet Stop for the range quals and I don’t think they allow your ‘hand cannon’ in there!
Barretta has a very cool .22 semi-auto that I’m thinking of getting for Momma to practice with. We’ll have to plan a trip before long.
I won’t embarass you, I’ve got new glasses and I still can’t focus on the front sight. The doctor said I needed trifocals but I ain’t going to do it!
Hank
Republican,
“My reference is that in an agreement I gave my education and Cosmos was supposed to give his.”
Another lie. Post the link where I made that agreement.
I’ve said that my education was irrelevant, because my opinions are based on work done by highly qualified, peer-reviewed scientists.
I also explained,”Science is very specialized. Even highly credentialed and qualified scientists rely on other scientists, when the topic is outside their field of expertise.”
And Dr. Huie agreed with me.http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/04/open_thread_24.html#comment-67736352
Republican: “I gave mine and he ridiculed it for not being a Natural or Physical science major.”
And another lie. I don’t even know Republican’s degree — all I read was he had taken science classes, but it isn’t a science degree.
Bottom line: It’s about the science, not the person doing the science.
Bottom line: It’s about the science, not the person doing the science.Posted by: cosmos | April 30, 2007 at 04:39 PM
Which means Cosmos is a blind pig looking for an acorn because of his lack of science background.
Republican,
“Which means Cosmos is a blind pig looking for an acorn because of his lack of science background.”
No, it IS about the science, not the person.
And it means I don’t believe my science background is stronger than those doing specialized, peer-reviewed climate science, such as the authors listed at,http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html
You however seem to use your limited science background to insist that their science is wrong, and anyone who disagrees with them is right.
But you cannot even grasp simple climate concepts — like different regions of the Antarctic, at different latitudes, have different climates.
ok — said it before
Don’t argue with idiots — people watching won’t know which is which
Now, do I have to buy more cookies ? Crayons?
Republican’s degree is whatever the little voices in his head tell him it is . . .
I figure it’s kind of like the War in Iraq thing. The intellectuals and people with just plain old commons sense, could see where it was going to go after started. I think most of these people are looking at the GW forthcoming catastraphe and understanding where it too is going. Then there’s those people that can’t see through their political blinders, thought the war was such a cinch, the occupation would just fall right in line. Now all they are left with is blaming those who had foresight and common sense for the muck they’ve gotten all of us in. It’ll be the same with GW. They’ll be saying “where’s your answers? All you do is blame us.”
Republican,
I asked you a very simple question: Do you have facts to back up your accusations of Cosmos’ lack of education, or are you just baiting him?
It was a very simple question. Instead of answering, you just came up with bullshit.
Your answer, and your constant attacks on Cosmos’ purported lack of education, say quite a bit about you. I’ll keep that in mind for future conversations with you, should I choose to have them.
If you’re going to help the environment then go green. I do!
You can sit and argue about it till you are blue in the face, but if you aren’t doing you’re part, then why make the claim that you care?
That’s why I like Bill Maher. He is doing something about his CO2 contributions personally, not just giving lip service like Al Gore and the Democrat Politicians do.
I’m green! All my lights are energy saving compact florescence, with the exception of my outside security motion detection floodlights. I have an electric moped I use occasionally. My cars are all fuel efficient 4 cylinder. I compost for gardening. My lawn mower is human powered. I can give many examples.
And I’m no global warming cultist either. I believe global warming is good for our planet. But I do my part in reducing waste, increase efficiencies and cutback my pollution footprint as much as possible.
Get rid of your gas guzzlers. Get rid of your SUV’s, your gas powered lawnmower and be green!
It’s a bummer we have so little in the way of trnsit here - especially at night. Tends to rull out simultaneously holding jobs and not having some sort of car. At least my made-in-USA Civic gets decent mileage; next one likely will be a hybrid.
Also too bad GM abandoned the EV-1; I would have liked to be able to consider that option.
Here! Here! Ben!
Have you seen the Documentary “Who killed the electric car?”
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
YES. That was my point. Think about the compettive advantage GM could have had.
Actually what I would like is a ‘plug-in hybrid’; most of my driving could be electric (nuclear, wind, solar) with gasoline backup.
By the way; I am no more a global warming “cultist” than my family doctor is a cholesterol/overweight/too-much-salt cultist.
Republican and science should never be used in the same sentence. Republicans are no good at science because they deny science unless they can fit it into their wacko religious views. Things like the Earth being about 6000 years old and it was all created in 6 days when God spoke it into existence. And we did not evolve but were spoken into creation and then, as we slept, God reached down from Heaven with a scalpel and removed a rib and made a woman out of it. And somewhere down below the Earth there is some dude named Satan with a red tail and a pitchfork waiting to cast the lost into a big fire he has going down there. Yes, all very scientific! In fact Scientist have drilled a hole in the ground and lowered a camera and seen the guy in the red suit with the pitchfork!
“Republican: “I gave mine and he ridiculed it for not being a Natural or Physical science major.”
And another lie. I don’t even know Republican’s degree — all I read was he had taken science classes, but it isn’t a science degree.”
Kev,
There’s no shortage of Luddites among Democrats; there are plenty who believe Adam rode a dinosaur to church every Sunday.
Trying to pigeonhole people based on their party affiliation doesn’t solve anything. It just works to continue to polarize people and keep us (not just the Blog us) from finding common ground.
Kev where are your credentials to opine on global warming. Do you just take Gore at his word that it is actually happening because there are many scientists that say it is simply a climate change and not a man made happening. Are you so easily led that you believe everything you hear or read?
“Republicans are no good at science because they deny science unless they can fit it into their wacko religious views.”Posted by: Kev | April 30, 2007 at 09:41 PM
I know many conservatives on this blog who are not Christians. You tag everyone who has a different thought than you as a relegious wacko. What does that make you?
Do you ever have an original thought or do you just always regurgitate the demo party line?
Just some food for thought. You will have to put on your thinking cap for this one.
Just to let you know that Mars is undergoing Global Warming too.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece
Again! I never denied global warming. Just deny that it will destroy us in 10 years like Democrat Global Warming Cultist says it will. They are just as bad as the people who think the earth is 6000 years old.
When the Ozone hole was all the hype, they told us it would cook everybody in UV light within a decade. People were talking about 200 SPF sunblock and never being able to go outside and all plant life would vanish. They even made movies about it.
When that became sooooo yesterday, the new fad was to scare people about acid rain. It was suppose to melt the paint off of cars, burn people alive, make people go bald and of course destroy all plant life on earth.
When that became soooo yesterday, it’s not CO2 emissions from automobiles, business jets are excluded. It’s going to melt the arctic ice, all cities on shorelines will be underwater and of course destroy all plant life on earth.
Too many cry wolf’s here!
Reduce pollution, increase efficiencies, diversify energy production, recycle and use renewable sources of energy! Yeah! That’s progress and we should strive for that in our society.
Telling me that the world will end in a decade or if we don’t do something about it, it’s too late… Sorry! That’s cultist religi talk. It’s for the weak minded. Another opium for the masses.
Some science about stratospheric ozone:
http://www.wunderground.com/education/ozone_skeptics.asp
Not from a “cultist”; from a scientist. Just like my family doctor is a scientist when it comes to my cholesterol, weight, etc. He isn’t a cultist either.
ontrary to the environmentalists’ claims, there is no permanent hole in the ozone layer and no ozone shortage. Ozone is constantly created and destroyed. The interaction of ultraviolet radiation with oxygen molecules is what produces ozone. In the stratosphere, 10 to 40 kilometers above the earth’s surface, several tons of ozone are produced every second.
The amount of ozone present at any one time is influenced by many factors. For example, the amount of ultraviolet radiation reaching the stratosphere (and ultimately producing ozone) depends upon latitude, solar cycle, and season. Concentrations of ozone may differ drastically from one day to the next, sometimes by as much as 50 percent, depending on the weather. Ozone holes are natural reactions to these ultraviolet light variations. Ozone levels can also be affected by the amount of volcanic matter in the stratosphere. Each volcanic eruption emits roughly a thousand times the amount of ozone?depleting chemicals than all the CFCs man has ever produced.
The ozone hole that appeared over Antarctica and caused all the panic is a natural and annual phenomena. The annual ozone hole was first measured in 1956?57, long before the ozone?destroying CFCs were in common use. The hole appears at the end of the dark, cold Antarctic winter, lasts about three to five weeks, and then disappears. There is no overall or permanent depletion of the ozone layer.
Joe you are so right and this to will run it’s course. I have stopped eating eggs, eat chocolate because it prevents heart disease, drink one glass of wine a day for my stomach, only cook with extra virgin olive oil, drink only bottled water to avoid cholrine, gave up tuna because of the mercury, never go out in noon sunlight to avoid skin cancer, never grill my steaks well done because the burned ends that I use to love now are giving me cancer - in short I have changed my lifestyle to fit all of the advise scientists give out. I just refuse to let Al Gore dictate what global warming, Cheryl Crow tell me how much toilet tissue to use and I also will not let Rosie O’Donnell tell me that Bush had the towers imploded because all scientists know that jet fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to melt steel and concrete. She might need to consult with the engineers in California because that is what they think happened when the semi burned under the collapsed overpass. Or maybe Bush order that to, thinking it would take pressure off his Iraq decisions.
Ben! There is a difference when a doctor tells you your cholesterol is high.
It’s another to say that since your cholesterol is high, you are going to die tomorrow and it’s all your fault for eating hamburgers and hot dogs.
Even though we all know that we produce cholesterols naturally in our bodies. Sure! Diet plays a part, but to blame hamburgers for all the cholesterols in your body and everybody else’s cholesterol, we should ban them. Welcome to trans fat bans!
Cultist or science?
Joe! Did you learn your science in your speech class? The link I gave was not ‘environmentalist’ but was science. You are correct that O3 is in a dynamic equilibrium; however the steady-state concentration has been reduced considerably.
Your statement about 56-57 is not true; the amount does vary seasonally however the entire variation has been to lower levels. Your conclusion is not supported by science.
Of course, I suppose if science is only a cult …
” Each volcanic eruption emits roughly a thousand times the amount of ozone?depleting chemicals than all the CFCs man has ever produced.”
Also not true.
For a bit more SCIENCE:
http://www.wunderground.com/education/holefaq.asp
There is a good grph that shows BOTH the seasonal variation and the long-term reduction.
ksgm! If you read Democrat blog sites, I’m sure they are blaming the overpass in San Francisco as President Bush’s fault and that they planted bombs there. I’m sure you will find them. You poll Democrats and I bet you will get like 80% believe President Bush blew up the World Trade Center, levies in New Orleans and the list the goes on. All the way to Bush causes hurricanes.
Not to let the Republicans off the hook. There is some crazy ones in that bunch.
If he totally ignored my natural metabolism it would be cultism. If, however, he studies all of it and then concludes that my ingestion of food adulterants is a major factor that would be science. We do know the difference Joe!
Even with the old Murphy’s Law “One cannot distinguish between a sufficiently advance technology and magic”
Well Ben! Let me know when it’s going to kill me.
I’m not denying that a hole in the ozone exist. It clearly does.
By the way Joe! - can you name a food source for trans fats? Not a prepared food into which it might have been introduced but rather a natural food product from which they are derived?
Then why ban trans fat?
The science supports that it’s bad for you.
I’ll give you a hint Joe - think nickel. And you can even get it Kosher!
Ditto to Tom and Ksgrm above for you comments on the over-generalization of party labels!!!
I do not necessarily favor banning all food adulteration; however I DO favor properly labeling products as having been adulterated.
Any guesses as to where trans fat comes from yet?
Meats and milk!
Although relatively small amounts. But it exist naturally.
JUST IN:
BELL AIRE SOLDIER
4-30-07 - 21-year-old Alex Funcheon died in Baghdad over the weekend when the humvee he was riding in hit a roadside bomb. All three soldiers in the vehicle died.Alex went to Heights high school and joined the military right after high school. His parents describe him as fun and happy-go-lucky, but serious about his position in the army.He is survived by his parents of Bel Aire and his 18-year-old sister. The funeral will take place sometime in the next week to ten days.
“O God, our Heavenly Father, we remember before Thee this day,those who laid down their lives in the service of their country.We remember their courage and devotion to the Sovereign and the country they served.We pray that their labours be not in vain but that their spirit may live on in us and the generations to come.We pray that liberty, truth and love may spread over all the world ’til war shall cease to be.We remember our brethren who are in sickness or distress.We remember the widows and other dependants.We dedicate ourselves to Thy service in the name of those whose memory we revere.We ask this in the name of our Lord.” “Amen”
WRONG!
A chemical laboratory. Nickel catalysts. Harshaw chemical produced the catalysts back in the early 80s; we even had a line that was Kosher.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=HPID,HPID:2006-46,HPID:en&defl=en&q=define:Trans+Fats&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
The reason they are make is to keep stuff from turning rancid - bugs won’t eat them.
cis is biological, trans is chemical. That is why, when analyzing 1,2-DCE we look at the isomer. cis - biodegradation product of TCE. trans - directly chemical in origin.
While miniscule amounts are found naturally the vast majority is a food adulterant:
http://www.answers.com/topic/trans-fatty-acid
Joe! You ever work in the field?
I’ll keep that in mind for future conversations with you, should I choose to have them.Posted by: Tom | April 30, 2007 at 09:07 PM
Allah Akbar!Alhamdulillah!
Practicing my Arabic when the cheese eating surrender monkeys take office and try to negotiate their way out situations by talking.
Joe Williams,
“[I] Just deny that it will destroy us in 10 years like Democrat Global Warming Cultist says it will.”
They do NOT claim it will “destroy us in 10 years”.
It’s about avoiding the natural “tipping point”, where positive feedbacks amplify the human-caused warming — and then we CAN’T stop the warming trend.
Less ice/snow = more heat absorbed.More GHG’s released from thawing permafrost = more warming.Less CO2 absorbed by warmer oceans, and by less phytoplankton = more warming.
When cis olefins are partially hydrogenated they isomerize to the more thermodynamically stable trans isomer. Problem is, biological units do not handle the trans isomer well. That might be a good thing if the purpose is to prevent a biological unit from being able to utilyze them; however if you ARE that biological unit …
That said, I believe that such a food adulterant should be allowed. However, as with any food adulterant the product containing it should be clearly labeled as adulterated.
I would not so label natural food products that contain the ‘de minimus’ amount that might naturally occur.
Sort of like the trace amounts of ethanol that might be in natiral fruit juices - they do not trigger alcohol labeling.
ksgrm,
“… because there are many scientists that say it is simply a climate change and not a man made happening.”
Please name them. Is their science peer-reviewed? Do observations and data support their theories?
Some of the scientists who believe that humans ARE causing climate change are listed in the annex here.http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html
Again, let’s see your list of “many scientists”.
More multi million dollar contracts for so-called Global Warming Scientist’s pockets.
Less Dollars in your pocket when the CO2 exchange/rip off/tax program starts
Tens of thousands of companies hugely penalized by oppressive UN/Kyoto Protocol Taxes and Prohibition - they will go bust.
The end of free society as we know it, it will become a socialistic state under the blackmailing thumb of the U.N.
ksgrm - I have to side with cosmos - the number of scientists among the skeptics is vanishingly small - about the same as we saw with the tobacco ‘controversy’ - and they are all tied with the industry - just like with tobacco.
Poor Wolfowitz, claims he’s the victim of a “smear campaign”, must think he’s being swift boated, but by God only knows who.
Ben,
“Problem is, biological units do not handle the trans isomer well.”
LOL… and very true. In short, trans fat increases the shelf life of manufactured food products — and DECREASES our “shelf life”.
The big “gotcha!” on trans fat labeling is that if the amount is less than 0.5 grams per SERVING, the label can list it as “zero”.
So look for “partially hydrogenated” or “shortening” in the ingredients, and don’t buy or eat it if they’re there.http://www.bantransfat.org/abouttransfat.html
“More multi million dollar contracts for so-called Global Warming Scientist’s pockets.”
More multi-billion dollar contracts to support a war started by a moron.
“Less Dollars in your pocket when the CO2 exchange/rip off/tax program starts”
Less dollars in your pocket from taxes having to pay off the massive debt incurred by said war.
“Tens of thousands of companies hugely penalized by oppressive UN/Kyoto Protocol Taxes and Prohibition - they will go bust.”
A few “select” companies tied to this administration making money off the deaths of America’s finest.
“The end of free society as we know it, it will become a socialistic state under the blackmailing thumb of the U.N.”
The end of the Constitution as we know it. Along with the resurrection of the neo-con wackos trying to control every aspect of American life by trying to remake it in their sick and twisted image.
RepubliCON believes that wind farms, energy efficiency, solar power and less suburban sprawl will result in . . . wait for it . . .
“the end of free society as we know it, [we] will become a socialistic state under the blackmailing thumb of the U.N.”
Tell the good doctors at Larned that the meds aren’t working, CON.
You need the stronger stuff . . .
The terrorist-communist-French have a thought control beam aimed right at Republican’s house.
They know that he’s the last right-thinking individual left on the planet.
Unfortunately, his tin-foil hat wearing as disrupted the signals.
Damn that Yankee ingenuity!
A food question for my fellow bloggers: If I add melamine to grain products it will increase its nitrogen content which is commonly used as a proxy for protein. That will increase my profit when I sell it to food processors. So, my question: Should I be allowed to adulterate the grain in this manner? And, if so, should I be allowed to do it without labeling the products?
Melamine, by the way, is the chemical implicated in the pet food fiasco.