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  1. Posted April 22, 2007 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    An Ohio group, Women Influencing the Nation, plans to run radio ads in Kansas to push for prosecution of Tiller. Listen to the ads yourself online:

    http://chargetiller.com/radioads.html

  2. J M Walker
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    As usual, ksm tries to interject his partisan bs into the mix. It’s district attorneys who file charges, not some whacko out of state rousers.

  3. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    Several days ago I posted an article from MOAA (Military Officers Associatin) regarding several pieces of legislation that impacted military personnel, dependents, Guard, Reserve and retirees — I know it can take time to find and digest the info — so (for those of you interested / can find time to help) here are the summaries of the bills and the Kansas delegations reps who have signed on as Sponsors or Co-Sponsors. It does not necessarily mean they don’t support the legislation if not signed on yet — but they should be encouraged to do so, by your emails to them — hopefully you can find the time …. I’ll put each of the 5 Bills summary in the following blogs – sponsor info is current as of 4/20/07 – these are military support bills with some military jargon — but easily understood — info is from the MOAA Legislative Center.

    First:

    Military Retirees Health Care Protection ActBill # H.R.579

    Cosponsor Total: 150(last sponsor added 04/20/2007)112 Democrats38 Republicans

    Tiahrt has not signed on as a co – sponsor / sponsor.

    About This Legislation:H.R. 579 would establish the principle that it’s Congress’s responsibility, not the Pentagon’s, to establish when and by how much military health fees will be increased.

    In doing so, it would remove the Secretary of Defense’s current authority to make virtually unlimited increases in four specific areas:Enrollment fees for retired members and survivors in TRICARE Prime, the military managed care plan.

    Pharmacy copayments.

    Enrollment fees for the TRICARE Reserve Select program that helps maintain health coverage, continuity for Guard and Reserve families.

    Retiree and survivor copayments for inpatient care.

    (As a point of reference, DoD is recommending to Congress to triple the cost of Tri Care costs in many categories to service members, retirees, Guard and Reserve , and allow lesser amounts that Tricare will pay Health Care Professionals for services, and increase the deductibles / co-payments that service people will have to pay)

  4. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    Second:

    No Kansas delegation sponsors or co-sponsors>

    SBP-DIC OffsetBill # H.R.1589Cosponsor Total: 26

    11 Democrats15 RepublicansAbout This Legislation:Purpose: Under the current law, the surviving spouse of a retired military member who dies from a service connected disability is entitled to Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC) paid by the Veteran’s Administration.

    If the military retiree was also enrolled in the Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP), the surviving spouse’s benefits are offset by the amount of DIC ($1067 per month).A pro-rated share of SBP premiums is refunded to the surviving spouse in a lump sum but with no interest.

    H.R. 1589 repeals the provisions of Title 10 which require the offset of DIC payments from SBP annuities. The bill also provides for the recoupment of certain portions of SBP premiums that may have been refunded to the surviving spouse.

  5. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Third:

    The Military Retiree Survivor Equity Act Bill # S.935

    No Kansas delegation sponsors / co sponsors – Senate.

    Cosponsor Total: 24

    18 Democrats6 Republicans

    About This Legislation:Purpose: Two major military Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP) inequities still need to be fixed. They are:

    (1) the dollar-for-dollar deduction of VA benefits for service-connected deaths from the survivors’ SBP annuities and

    (2) the 2008 effective date of 30-year paid-up SBP coverage, which imposes undue financial penalties on the earliest SBP enrollees.Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) joined by a bipartisan group of 17 original Senate cosponsors have and introduced S. 935, a bill to correct these inequities. The bill would repeal the SBP-DIC offset and move up the effective date of paid-up SBP to 1 Oct. 2007

  6. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Fourth:

    Tiahart has not signed on as a co-sponsor / supporter:

    Paid Up SBPBill # H.R.784Cosponsor Total: 81

    40 Democrats41 Republicans

    About This Legislation:This bill would move up the current 2008 implementation date for 30-year paid-up Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP) coverage. Current law provides that members who have paid SBP premiums for at least 360 months and who also have attained age 70 will be able to stop paying SBP premiums while retaining SBP coverage for their survivors.

    Because of budget constraints at the time of its 1998 enactment, Congress delayed the effective date of this provision until October 1, 2008. This legislation would make the provision effective as of October 1, 2007.

  7. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Military Health Care Protection ActBill # S.604

    Neither our of 2 Senators have signed on as co – sponsors / supporters

    Cosponsor Total: 129 Democrats3 Republicans

    About This Legislation:S. 604 would bar the TRICARE Prime enrollment fee and TRICARE pharmacy copays from being increased in any year by a percentage that exceeds the percentage increase in military retired pay.

    And bar TRICARE Reserve Select premiums from being increased by a percentage that exceeds the most recent basic pay increase.

    Additionaly it would bar any enrollment fee for TRICARE Standard or any increase in the TRICARE Standard inpatient copay.This legislation would also establish in law the unique role of military health benefits in offsetting the extraordinary demands inherent in a military career. And establishes that military people pre-pay large up-front premiums for their lifetime health coverage through decades of service and sacrifice.

    (As a point of reference, DoD is asking Congress to triple the cost of Tri Care costs in many categories to service members, retirees, Guard and Reserve , and allow lesser amounts that Tricare will pay Health Care Professionals for services, and increase the deductibles / co-payments that service people will have to pay)

  8. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    By way of explanation

    TriCare is the Military Medical Insurance Program (much like an HMO) that provides for medical coverage for all categories of military personnel. As I understand it if active duty personnel or their dependents require medical care — and military facilities are not available it pays for civilian care, at approved facilities / individuals — what has been happening over the years is the amount Tricare would pay doctors etc … to provide the coverage has been reduced significantly enough — forcing Doctors etc out of the program, limiting or eliminating choices of providers …

    Example — McConnell no longer has a hospital, they are a clinic, providing basic evaluation and some medical services such as a limited pharmacy, Primary Care assessements, lab work — almost anything that requires a specialist Ob/gyn, Neurology, anything beyond simple radiology is referred to civilian providers — as Tricare reduces fees to doctors etc, the number of doctors participating in the program has declined — leaving fewer choices and in many cases requiring longer travel times / costs to the individuals ….

    Retirees and some of the other categories require an insurance premium payment to participate in the system beyond a very basic level of treatment —

    These bills have little to nothing to do with VA provided medical care — but I think you might be surprised to know that generally a vet going to the VA does not get “free” care — costs to visit VA can vary by circumstances such as nature of disability, current income, rank at discharge or retirement …. it is misperception that VA care is free to the veterans — some yes, most no ….

    Note: our politicians over the decades have hacked away at VA programs that have created similar problems as to what has occurred at Walter Reed (Reed is a military medical facilty — not part of the VA.)

  9. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Sad News

    Yesterday a Navy Blue Angels pilot was killed in a crash during an Air Show at Beaufort S.C. near the Marine Corps Station there — these pilots (as well as the AF T’Bird pilots) are considered the best of the best — terrible loss for the families, Navy and the fans of precision / demonstration flying teams ..

    They have often performed at McConnell’s Air shows –

    History Channel has done a 2-3 part series on them showing how they select Pilots and how they train and prepare for each show … will be intersting to see — hope they repeat it.

  10. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Gates links Iraq progress to troop need.By LOLITA C. BALDORAssociated Press WriterBAGHDAD – Stressing the limits of U.S. patience, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Friday the Bush administration will weigh Iraq’s political progress in deciding this summer whether to bring home some of the U.S. troops.

    “Our commitment to Iraq is long-term, but it is not a commitment to have our young men and women patrolling Iraq’s streets open-endedly,” Gates told U.S. and Iraqi reporters at a news conference in the capital.”

    Sounds like he might me advocating a most recently dismissed notion of some sort of time table — is he actually advocating for accountability and responsibility from the Iraqi’s? That could very well be a first !!!!

  11. Posted April 22, 2007 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    A little different topic. The news in reporting that an 84 year old , former Miss America stopped some thieves.”Venus Ramey, 82, confronted a man on her farm in south-central Kentucky last week after she saw her dog run into a storage building where thieves had previously made off with old farm equipment.”The story goes on to tell how she blocked the thieves car with her own and shot out the tires on their truck.I salute her courage, BUT…Under Kansas law she committed a “gun crime” since you can’t legally use deadly force to defend your out-buildings.In point of fact, several years ago, Kansas passed a mandatory prison sentence for crimes committed with a gun. The very first person sent to jail for a year was a rancher who did just what Miss America [1944] did, he shot at a burglars car as they were leaving. Kansas immediately revised the sentencing law, it isn’t mandatory prison time if the crime sentence would be a “manifest injustice” which means it is still a crime to shoot without legal justification, but it would be unfair to send a home-owner to jail for a year for trying to do what they have been taught by TV and newspapers what was “right.”One big advantage of the Kansas concealede carry law [this applies to all the states as far as I know] is that you are instructed in the law. In particular KS laws on crime with firearms and the self-defense lawshttp://www.geocities.com/ks2ndamendmentsociety/curreentkansasfirearmlaws.html where I have collected these.Defebd your life and others, defend your dwelling [home] but just property in the barn.Get your gun to defend yourself, stay someplace safe if you can and call 911, lety the paid professionals do the confrontation when ever possible.21-3211Chapter 21.–CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

    PART I.–GENERAL PROVISIONS

    Article 32.–PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL LIABILITY

    21-3211. Use of force in defense of a person; no duty to retreat. (a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent it appears to such person and such person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to defend such person or a third person against such other’s imminent use of unlawful force.

    (b) A person is justified in the use of deadly force under circumstances described in subsection (a) if such person reasonably believes deadly force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to such person or a third person.

    (c) Nothing in this section shall require a person to retreat if such person is using force to protect such person or a third person.

    History: L. 1969, ch. 180, § 21-3211; L. 2006, ch. 194, § 3; May 25.

    21-3212Chapter 21.–CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

    PART I.–GENERAL PROVISIONS

    Article 32.–PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL LIABILITY

    21-3212. Use of force in defense of dwelling; no duty to retreat. (a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that it appears to such person and such person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent or terminate such other’s unlawful entry into or attack upon such person’s dwelling or occupied vehicle.

    (b) A person is justified in the use of deadly force to prevent or terminate unlawful entry into or attack upon any dwelling or occupied vehicle if such person reasonably believes deadly force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to such person or another.

    (c) Nothing in this section shall require a person to retreat if such person is using force to protect such person’s dwelling or occupied vehicle.

    History: L. 1969, ch. 180, § 21-3212; L. 2006, ch. 194, § 4; May 25.

    21-3213Chapter 21.–CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

    PART I.–GENERAL PROVISIONS

    Article 32.–PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL LIABILITY

    21-3213. Use of force in defense of property other than a dwelling. A person who is lawfully in possession of property other than a dwelling is justified in the threat or use of force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating an unlawful interference with such property. Only such degree of force or threat thereof as a reasonable man would deem necessary to prevent or terminate the interference may intentionally be used.

    History: L. 1969, ch. 180, § 21-3213; July 1, 1970.

  12. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Did anyone catch John Prine on Austin City Limits? He NAILED bushco with this song. A fitting follow up to “Your Flag Decal Wont Get You Into Heaven Anymore”.

    Some Humans Ain’t HumanLyrics for Album: Fair and Square

    Mmmm MmmmSome humans ain’t humanSome people ain’t kindYou open up their heartsAnd here’s what you’ll findA few frozen pizzasSome ice cubes with hairA broken PopsicleYou don’t want to go there

    Some humans ain’t humanThough they walk like we doThey live and they breatheJust to turn the old screwThey screw you when you’re sleepingThey try to screw you blindSome humans ain’t humanSome people ain’t kind

    You might go to churchAnd sit down in a pewThose humans who ain’t humanCould be sittin’ right next to youThey talk about your familyThey talk about your clothesWhen they don’t know their own assFrom their own elbows

    Jealousy and stupidityDon’t equal harmonyJealousy and stupidityDon’t equal harmony

    Have you ever noticedWhen you’re feeling really goodThere’s always a pigeonThat’ll come shit on your hood

    Or you’re feeling your freedomAnd the world’s off your backSome cowboy from TexasStarts his own war in Iraq

    Some humans ain’t humanSome people ain’t kindThey lie through their teethWith their head up their behindYou open up their heartsAnd here’s what you’ll findSome humans ain’t humanSome people ain’t kind

  13. political_mom
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Women Influencing The Nation…would this be like the Concerned Women for America that is run by men because the women can’t be trusted to be in charge of anything? Including their own decisions?

    Oh it seems it’s a breeder organization. Do your part and procreate for God! Raise the next generation of leaders instead of BE the next generation of leaders.

    Shakes head.

  14. political_mom
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    A group who advocates control and abuse of women…

    http://www.womeninfluencingthenation.com/article.php?id=217

    “That spontaneous slap was the reaction of a real man who a woman had just told she aborted his baby.”

  15. Mary Caruso
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Just goes to show there will always be extremists on both sides.

  16. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    FrmGrl writes: “Yeah M. We googled you. We know. You are SO busted.”

    Nice work, FrmGrl. Excellent, in fact.

    It just doesn’t make sense that the obsessive-compulsive troll formerly known as JM would just vanish vowing never to return . . . and then he pops up weeks later to the minute, I mean the very minute, that somebody questioned his “I-first-posted-the-1896-quiz-on-the-internet” claim.

    Republican calls Clark the very names that JM did. He starts posting the day that JM-Eier-Uncle William stopped. He won’t answer questions about himself until he googles his past nics to find out what he said all at the same time vowing that he has NEVER posted under any other nic.Now it turns out that his initials in real life are . . . JM.

    Well, who could’ve ever guessed?

    ******

    But wait there’s more–

    JM was in the Air Force in Germany and so was Republican. JM had specialized knowledge of computers, and so does Republican.

    And check the times of posts of JM and Republican:

    I bet someones is boiling mad about these party jumpers.Posted by: JM | October 30, 2006 at 03:00 AM

    to get their Kansas Driver License, courtesy of Governor Sebelius.

    Posted by: JM | October 30, 2006 at 05:00 AM

    Gates mentioned the word “debate” as being positive, not setting a deadline.Posted by: Republican | April 20, 2007 at 01:16 AM

    You like Bush Family Balls Jed?Posted by: Republican | April 20, 2007 at 02:00 AM

    double that of current top-of-the-line chips, he said.” – MSNBC.COMPosted by: Republican | April 19, 2007 at 03:48 AM

    Now, how many posts have YOU made between 1:30 AM and 5:00 AM?

    ******

    The issue is NOT who JM-Republican is in RL (real life). I could care less about that.

    The issue is, is Republican HONEST when he says that he’s a first-time post-er here in February and NEVER posted under any other nics?

    Because if he lies and says he’s not the same poster who melted down and vowed never to return, who claimed he was “black with a black grandmother,” then he can’t be trusted about anything he posts.

  17. Joe Williams
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    I think the Casino should be in downtown Wichita. Let the Developers buy Century II and the Main Library.

    The City then should use the money to, of course, build a new library (something they’ve been wanting to do for years), and a great new preforming arts center for our preforming arts and symphony. A world renown symphony hall.

    Sure! We can let Bob Knight build his Indian Casino in Dee Stuart land next to Wild West World and the new Hartman Arena were all the kids can see the casino. But I don’t think that is the right place for it.

    The county wants to use Brit Brown as one, therefore to keep all the money the casino generates in county hands. But I think a more fitting use for the Brit Brown is just to turn everything into more camper/RV space. It’s fitting with the outdoor pavilions there.

    Thoughts!

  18. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    The one thing Republican CAN’T lie about is the time of day or night he posts.

    Case closed . . .

  19. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Joe–

    I noticed that you had no response to my post that Saddam WAS a leftist because the Ba’ath party embraced socialism.

    Read and learn, right, Joe?

  20. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    The three words that CONservatives are incapable of uttering: “you are right.”

  21. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    The one thing CapnCrunch can’t lie about is that he promotes Internet stalking.

    Case closed.

  22. Pedant
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    “This is a dark chapter in our history. Whatever else happens, our country’s international standing has been frittered away by people who don’t have the foggiest understanding of how the hell the world works. America has been conducting an experiment for the past six years, trying to validate the proposition that it really doesn’t make any difference who you elect president. Now we know the result of that experiment. If a guy is stupid, it makes a big difference.”–General Tony McPeak(ret.) – former Chief of Staff of the USAF.

  23. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Heh, that’s wrong, GS, and you know it.

    I already said I have no interest in JM-Eier-Republican’s RL.

    What I do have an interest in is catching blatant liars when they lie.

  24. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    No, Capn’, I’m not wrong – you told FarmFap “good job” for trying to track down another poster on the Net.

    That makes you an accomplice since you were encouraging her stalking.

  25. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    It was a good job that she proved this liar to be a liar.

    Why are you so interested in protected this inDUHvidual?

    Have you no standards? You defend anyone who seems to espouse your political stance?

    The trouble is, how do you know that’s not a lie too?

    Because I don’t.

    I think this inDUHvidual uses this Blog as a playtoy for his fantasy life.

    He can weave all kinds of tall-tales and feel superior to the suckers who believe him . . .

    Suckers like you, GSheridan.

  26. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    You’re still encouraging stalking, Capn.

    What’s the matter with you? Did you even see FarmFap’s meltdown yesterday when she started ranting at ksgrm? Telling her she KNEW she was eligible for KPERS? Poor ksgrm – she never worked in a job that would make her anywhere near able to collect – but that didn’t stop FarmFap from lying and lying and lying.

    It was weird.

  27. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Okay – change of pace here, folks.

    This may not be the “stupid liberal story of the day” – but it is definitely the WORST story of the day showing how very LOW liberalness has sunk the integrity of our media.

    This story is bad- very, very bad.

    So, if you are squeamish at all – don’t read it.

    But, if you are interested in how the media LOVES to play up white insults towards blacks, or convicting white boys of rape when they haven’t even been tried….they you might wonder how come this story hasn’t made the major media stations.

    Because if this was a case of five whites torturing and killing a black couple – we would never hear the end of it.

    http://mitchieville.blogspot.com/2007/04/horror-story-msm-has-tried-to-bury.html

  28. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Well, if FrmGrrl lied about Grm, she shouldn’t have done that, she should correct the record and apologize.

    I once assumed that JM was a religious radical, but I was wrong. I apologized for that.

    However, when I pointed out that if I lied when I said something was true that I didn’t know was true, then Bush must have lied when he said that Iraq had WMD’s because that also turned out to be a false assumption.

    JM never acknowledged that point.

    And I suppose that it’s just a coincidenct that “James Macklin” posted under his own name just a day after he was outed.

    Yup, pure coincidence . . .

  29. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    GS–

    Yeah, just remember how little attention the Carr Bros got after their night of rape and murder here in Wichita.

    Man, they had that story BURIED in small type in the classifieds . . .

    /SARCASM OFF

    It was a 24-7 media feeding frenzy . . .

  30. Ben
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    GS – assuming what was linked actually happened those guys should be turned into biology experiments.

    “Think Globally, Act Locally, and Demand Handouts!” Huh?

  31. Posted April 22, 2007 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    hey Capn and ksfarmgrrl

    I have a blog,it’s been posted here.

    Why don’t you use that blog to rant and rave against me instead of being attention “ho’s” here on the WE Blog.

    That way you can release your inner demons and blast me all you want.

    If you don’t, then everything GSheridan said about stalking is relevant and you both are nothing but two of the meanest spirited people on the planet who have nothing better to do than show your immature emotional outrages on a public forum.

    So here it is my Blog, tear me up.

    If you don’t, then you are just as I said, attention “ho’s.”

    http://republikan.typepad.com/republikansan/

  32. Ben
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Joe – I am inclined to agree with you – casino downtown. In fact, I am thinking of everything west of Main St from the Boathouse (for a restaurant) to the Broadview. One question: might symphony, Music Theater, etc actually be compatable with casino operations? After all, casinos typically have entertainment as well as gaming.

    Could this be turned into a win-win?

    (Agree on Library relocation)

  33. Mrage
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Joe,

    We get to Casino vote, then its up to developers designing some plan, like that fancy drawing for downtown, very premature.

    State will choose where it will be placed.

    We’re not picking who the Casino developer will be. The best plan wins. Who has the cash ready, the most important.

    It’s highly unlikely a Casino would be outside of downtown.

    I’m not looking to gamble, but its an event facility that’s $200 Million and more (not tax money).

    City has to sell The Hyatt. That drawing had a brand new hotel designed, nothing I imagined at all.

    What’s happens to the Coliseum, we still have to answer the downtown arena question.

    Can we stay less competitive regionally by constructing a smaller arena? Regional arena’s have 18,000 seats for basketball.

    Consider TV events. National TV events in our arena.

    Sports. Are we getting March Madness basketball games?

    Can Wichita compete for the Big 12 mens and women’s basketball tournament?

    National TV is important.

    Arena’s last 25 years, we need the proper sized facility to be regionally competitive for that long.

    The Coliseum question can’t be answered yet.

  34. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    naaawwww jm. It’s too much fun here.

    You seem to regard THIS blog as your own personal playing field. When you quit being an ankle biter here, you wont get your chops busted here.

    Damn, yer just like every other bully on the internet. A coward who can dish out all kinds of crap but cries like a little girl (sorry to little girls) when you get it dished back.

    Kinda reminds me of your buddy… You know, your only friend here? Other than germie. Heheheh. I dont have the energy to go back and dig up germie’s post about past employment. Maybe it was in OK, not in KS.

    But what I find really interesting? That both she and gs seem to think being KPERS eligible is a bad thing, or a knock on them. I could have just as easily said social security. I wonder if they regard hard earned KPERS pensions as more “public welfare”?

    heheheheheh. There ya go, all you folks who do or will draw from KPERS. Wingnuts like germie and gs think you are on welfare. Is it any wonder the conservative republicans in the legislature treat KPERS as the red headed stepchild?

    Remember that the next time you vote…

  35. political_mom
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    I personally think it’s HYSTERICAL to know that Republikhan is really JM.

    Credibility.

  36. Heckler
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    snipSurprisingly — but only because we keep assuming they’re more susceptible to the weight of facts and evidence than the average house plant — the victim disarmament movement was once again in full bray last week, splashing around in the gore of Virginia Tech and shrieking with glee at the prospect that this massacre may once again breathe life into their thoroughly discredited agenda.

    In fact, it would be harder to dream up a tragedy better designed than Virginia Tech — where gun-grabbers are disappointed the killer used only a couple of pocket pistols, instead of a big ugly “assault rifle” — to demonstrate the folly of “gun control.”snipBut we won’t be looking at that pattern, will we? Instead, America’s hoplophobe press will follow Mr. Horwitz’s lead and concentrate on “where he got his guns” — which makes about as much sense as investigating the latest Baghdad truck bombing by asking, “Where on earth did that suicidal militant get his Toyota?”

    Why don’t they explain to us, just this once, why these chemically warped fruitcakes never attack police stations or Army bases? Could it be because, even in their madness, they know the armed people there might shoot back?

    http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/7139871.html

  37. cosmos
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Also interesting how both Republican and JM post about credentials, court of law, flask data, Scripps, etc..

    And both are unable to comprehend facts, logic, and science.

    A thread with anti-AGW posts by JM at 12:43 AM and 2:15 AM, then,

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/01/bush_joining_go.html#comment-28108365Posted by: James H. Macklin | January 23, 2007 at 05:01 AMp51mustang36@hotmail.com

  38. Joe Williams
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Mrage! I understand your passion to host a basketball tournament. But there are only two arenas regionally that are 18K basketball seating capacity. That is the Ford Center in OKC and the new Sprint Arena in KC (by the way will have less seating then Kemper).

    Our Downtown Arena is in line with everybody else’s. Ours will be larger in square footage than most, although our seating will be slightly less than that of Alltel or BOK. But larger than Des Moines and inline with the Qwest Center in Omaha.

    Although these Arena’s say they are larger seating capacity arenas, they are taking to account the maximum concert seating arrangement.

    But if you look at the seating arrangement, for instance the Qwest Center in Omaha, for basketball, the seating is only 15,500. Alltel Arena is 14,000, 16,000 for the BOK.

    We are alright! We are inline. But our arena will be much better than some of the others. We will have a double concourse, and much more spacious seating and leg space.

    Not to worry Mrage. We can hang with everybody else.

    Plus the way the downtown will spur development south of Douglas, with the WaterWalk and the Casino, downtown Wichita will be a much finer walking city than places like Lawrence, Kansas and Eureka California. For those who like walking cities, ours will surpass everybody elses.

  39. Posted April 22, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Yeah I read Macklin’s post. He posted here once and some how I am him. heh

    Like I said my last name doesn’t start with “M”

  40. cosmos
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Republican,

    Didn’t you post that you went to college? What was your major in college?

  41. steve
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Roberts quote in today’s paper should have read, “I buried the Administrations trash,Protected the Party, and Preserved the two party system of Democracy” in my Senate Intelligence role.

  42. Posted April 22, 2007 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    At least I give information about my degree Cosmos. When I ask you, you avoid it like the plague.

    As I’ve said before, I’ve taken science classes, but my degree isn’t a science degree.

    Watch as Cosmos avoids the question again…

    What is your education Cosmos?

  43. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    PM – there is no proof, save all the stalking FarmFap does, that Republican is anyone besides who he claims to be.

    I certainly didn’t expect to see YOU taking part in this crazy attempt to make folks believe lies.

    I know it’s right up FarmFaps’ alley – but I thought you had some integrity.

    This is truly disappointing. You’re actually rewarding her for her stalking.

  44. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Republican – don’t give out any further personal information.

    FarmFap and her demented need to ‘get something’ on you is dangerous. I really believe that.

    She’s lied about me and ksgrm, too. Anyone who believes her after what she’s done – is fooling themselves that she isn’t a danger.

    The best advice is simply NOT to feed the trolls – and it rings true especially when it comes to her.

  45. raptor
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Fascinating thread..that someone would actually go back months thru thousands of posts to “catch” someone…or make a “point”

    Beautiful day outside…I am outta here.

  46. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee!!!

    You confirm your obsession with every post little miss hissy fit.

    I thought you said EVERYONE here believes republican. And now your buddy pmom sees the light? That really is tough for you.

    I really dont think you want your confirmed lies reposted here, do ya? Let’s start with Tracy and my legal affairs….

  47. ksgrm
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Farmie just another failed attempt to move the focus from you to someone else. What you are trying to classify as contempt for someone who is drawing a KPERS pension was actually surprise that I was eligible for one and someone else must be drawing it. My daughter in law has a state job that will qualify her for KPERS and I have told her to hang onto that job because the retirement is good.

    I have purposefully stayed out of the fray on this blog. You choose yesterday to draw me in with your lies. When asked to show the evidence you said you didn’t have the time to look for the proof. That could be because you are trying so hard to tie Repub to someone you think he is.

    Why can’t you get off the personal stuff and just debate issues. This could be a very good blog if that could happen.

    Stop the lies.

  48. Wiseman
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Having a degree means very little.You would be embarrassed to find out that a person with very little formal education can be competitive with someone with a high amount of formal education.In light of that understanding, your attentiveness to your education should be justly questionable.

  49. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Hehehehehehe. GS thinks I’m a troll, Clark is a troll, Tom is Clark, etc. She and republican sure have developed a case of paranoia. They see a boycotter under every tea cup.

    Maybe because THEY switch nics and troll they think everyone does? hehheheehehhe. Funny, I thought they were ok with nic switching and trolling on THEIR blog…

  50. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Germie, if I made a mistake about you having been employed in the public sector, I apologize.

    I really dont care enough to scroll through your posts and find it again. It is no big deal, and HARDLY along the lies gs has told about Tracy, me, captain, etc.

    So when bush lies, it is a mistake, but if I make a mistake it is a deliberate lie?

    Why am I so NOT surprised by that…

  51. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Ok, so I have to go now. Somebody email me when little miss hissy fit takes up the challenge to clear her “good name”. hehehehehh

  52. J M Walker
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    “Somebody email me when little miss hissy fit takes up the challenge to clear her “good name”. hehehehehh”

    She has a good name? Where? Is she hiding it; like maybe in the bat-cave?

    “Yo, bat-boy. Bring mama that big bat.”

  53. cosmos
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Wiseman,

    “Having a degree means very little.”

    I think JM said he had a degree in Industrial Hygiene — but he was unable to understand that Scripps DID properly calibrate their instruments BEFORE taking CO2 measurments.

    The data re the international calibration gas was later revised, by an insignificant 0.16 ppm.

    JM falsely accused Scripps of being sloppy.

    Republican,

    Why should I give you any personal info, when you don’t respect the opinions of the highly credentialed, very experienced scientists at RealClimate?

    ‘Contributor Bio’s’http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?cat=10

    And you don’t respect the opinions of the large majority of scientists, like in this group,http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/558.htm

  54. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    I’ve repeatedly asked FarmFap to back up her lies – but of course she can’t.

    She has actually BRAGGED about her stalking of Republican and her subsequent delusional accusations.

    I’ll ask her again on this thread – FarmFap – back up your lies about me.

    I’m waiting. You made the comment once that you ‘documented’ all the threads that I posted on.

    If that’s true – you should have easy access – but of course you don’t.

    You are a total lunatic. How old are you, anyway? My guess is too old to be acting like this. I pray you do NOT own weapons.

    Please – take your meds!

  55. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone recall that in the fister’s list of ‘bad things’- one was that they didn’t like others going off-site to gather information?

    Well, it didn’t take FarmFap long after she came back to do just that!

    And she actually BRAGS about it.

    Then she accuses me of contacting someone associated with her in real life – to somehow contrive against her. A total lie, of course, but it goes to show how far she will go in her delusional attemps to smear others.

    Let me set the record straight once and for all – I don’t LIKE losers in my life, and there is no bigger loser I’ve ever run across than FarmFap. I have NO desire to learn anything more than what I already do know, as she disgusts me greatly.

    I DO consider her dangerous – especially in light of the lies she has told about many of us in the last couple of days.

    If WEBlog has EVER banned anyone – for ANY reason – this has got to be pretty darned close to a banning offense.

    There is NO QUESTION that she has been stalking – she actually BRAGS about it.

    And then she falsely accuses others.

  56. Posted April 22, 2007 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Republican–

    I have no interest in your blog. Period.

    Raptor–

    There’s this search engine called “google.” If one knows how to use the perameters, it’s not that hard to search a site.

    Grm–

    You wrote: “Why can’t you get off the personal stuff and just debate issues. This could be a very good blog if that could happen.”

    But what about when “the personal stuff” is entirely relevant to the issues?

    That’s exactly the problem. Republican claims to have personal experience (”I am a black man”) with stuff that he hasn’t a clue about.

    He makes his “personal stuff” the issue.

    GS–

    I don’t know what your problem is with FrmGrrl. You just froth at the mouth when you start in on her.

    How’s that working out for you so far? Changed her behavior any?

    Your need to hate someone does not mean we need to help you satisfy that need.

    Cosmos–Republican can’t tell you his major in college because it will further match him up with the nic that he claims he never used previously.

    Besides, he was in ROTC. They major in marching.

    That was a very astute observation you made about JM’s and Republican’s fascination with arcane regulations and legalese.

    Also, the time of posting fits too, doesn’t it?

    Case further closed . . .

  57. Bob
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    You and Republican generate a lot of animosity, Mrs. Sheridan, perhaps more than any two other posters. It would appear that you two have a feud or two going everyday with at least a handful of others. Maybe the two of you should take a look at your approach to others as well. It takes two to fight.

  58. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Bob, disagreeing is one thing – but stalking, falsely accusing, and total lies are a different matter, entirely.

    Republican and I take a Conservative political approach, many are upset by that, but they SHOULD be able to argue the issues.

    Seriously, I think FarmFap has gone over the edge. There is something just NOT RIGHT about a woman that has to lie like that – and then brag that she is stalking another poster.

    There IS a line.

    She has crossed it.

    But, I see your point.

  59. .
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Several people – on both sides – have gone over the edge.

  60. raptor
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Man..the accusations are flying fast and furious. Anyone else agree that the constant bickering here is a tad silly?

  61. GSheridan
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Okay, I’ll be the big one here. I agree that this bickering has gone too far.

    From now on – I simply won’t respond to her posts that are designed to incite, and I’m sorry everyone reading this had to be subjected to it.

    If she posts on a real topic – I’ll debate that – but not this mudslinging.

    Fair enough?

  62. Joe Williams
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    GSheridan! Don’t worry! All fun and games.

    Don’t lose any sleep over it.

    :)

  63. Posted April 22, 2007 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    I guess if Capn and ksfarmgrrl can’t comment on anything but me, says more about them than me. :)

    Too bad they have no clue who I am.

    Lots of guesses, but no cigars.

    BTW Cosmos, I knew you’d weasel out giving what your degrees are in, if you even have any.

    I was told by a Professor about degrees;

    Bachelors: Means you find out what is true and what is not, then you write papers about it so you’ll remember it.

    Masters: They make you work at describing what is true and what is not, and they make you write longer papers to remember it.

    PhD: You have to prove that it’s true or not and you write even longer papers so that everyone else will remember it.

    :)

  64. Bob
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Prayer for the Safety of a Soldier

    Almighty and eternal God,those who take refuge in you will be glad and forever will shout for joy.

    Protect these soldiers as they discharge their duties.

    Protect them with the shield of your strength and keep them safe from all evil and harm.

    May the power of your love enable them to return home in safety, that with all who love them,they may ever praise you for your loving care.

    Welcome and comfort those that have joined you with yourunlimited love.

    Ease the pain of loss of their families and friends

    We ask this through Christ our Lord.

    Iraq:US Casualties: 3323 total, 2715 in combat

    *Other Coalition Countries:Country TotalAustralia 2Bulgaria 13Denmark 6El Salvador 5Estonia 2Hungary 1Italy 33Kazakhstan 1Latvia 3Netherlands 2Poland 20Romania 2Slovakia 4Spain 11Thailand 2Ukraine 18United Kingdom 144—–
    I noticed that Australia has lost two servicemen or women. Wasn’t it Australian Prime Minister John Howard that was bitching about Barack Obama’s position on the War on Iraq? Somehow I just see where he has a lot of room to talk.

  65. cosmos
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Republican,

    “As I’ve said before, I’ve taken science classes, but my degree isn’t a science degree.”

    You’ve only said that your “degree isn’t a science degree”.

    And you don’t seem to understand science’s peer-review process.

  66. Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos–

    You did some good sluething, my friend.

    Check it out, folks–

    it is not accepted by a court of law and under present EPA standards . . .Posted by: JM | January 20, 2007 at 01:04 PM

    it’s not something I would do or that would be upheld in a court of law.Posted by: JM | January 20, 2007 at 02:00 PM

    Nope Cosmos, it’s just like a court of law. You make a claim . . .

    Posted by: Republican | April 09, 2007 at 10:13 PM

    Case closed. Case further closed. Case effing slam-dunked.

  67. Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Now the question is, was all the stuff he said as JM a lie or is all the stuff he says as Republican a lie?

    I’m going with they’re all lies under both nics . . .

  68. Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    I understand science peer review and what it entails. You just want me to discuss GW issues again. Not going there.

    I also know that cronyism can infiltrate any process including peer review.

  69. Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    omigosh Capn! Two people said court of law on a blog!

    They must be twins! :D

    You’re becoming laughingly sad Capn.

  70. Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    We’ll let the readers decide, Republican.

    Which makes more sense: that compulsive blog addict A who posts the same things in the same way AT THE SAME TIMES (1:30AM – 5:00AM) and who has proven he will misuse evidence (the phony cut-and-paste job on WSClark) and uses the same ethnic slurs against the same guy as compulsive blog addict B are two different people or the same person with two nicknames?

    I don’t know what you do for a living in RL (oh, that’s right, you’re not able to hold down a job these days), but I hope no one has to depend upon your truthfulness.

  71. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    +++++++++++++++++++

    A Prayer for those with Disabilities and for Caregivers

    Thank you, God for our physical, mental, and spiritual well being. Some of us do not have even that. Help us to restore to those in need these essential qualities of our lives that some of us may lack.

    As we understand that disabilities can strike us at any time, help us live in faith to cope with life’s uncertainties, and as responsible stewards of the physical, mental and spiritual resources you have given us. Help us give assistance to those whose resources are no longer adequate to the challenges of their lives and who need our help.

    We recognize caretakers and health care professionals in their endeavors to help the disabled and troubled persons, some of whom may even be silently hidden in our midst. Help us assist them in every way that is needed to give them much needed time away from the stress of care.

    We ask, God, that you show us how to help them as well as those directly in need, so that those whose work makes such a difference may not be lost to “burn out” They too need our prayers and assistance.

    Help us, God, to maintain balance within this unbalanced world, which often times is itself “crazy”.

    Lord, help us to bear up under these stressful times. God, give us strength. Amen.

  72. Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    lol

    funny stuff…

    No wonder there are so many road ragers on the road if they are like Capn and ksfarmgrrl. :)

  73. cosmos
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Republican,

    “I understand science peer review and what it entails.”

    Since your “degree isn’t a science degree”, you are NOT QUALIFIED to say “cronyism” has distorted the climate science peer review process.

    I challenge you to give an example of how “cronyism”, or some other factor, has blocked an anti-AGW theory from being scientifically accepted.

    Peer review is how scientists “duke it out”.

    Your anti-AGW side is unable to produce peer reviewed science. They instead write inaccurate op-eds, and “publish” at unscientific think-tanks.

    You fail to understand those facts, and reality.

    Republican: “Leave the scientists from both sides to duke it out.

    Unfortunately though, the GW IPCC gang have already violated this principle and have hit squads out of anyone that does not believe in their cause.

    I find that reprehensible.”http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/03/open_thread_14.html#comment-63346696

  74. Bob
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    It is well know by law enforcement and the insurance industry that most road rage incidents are caused by right wing drivers. Studies have shown that 73.3% of road rage perpetrators identify themselves as right of center or right wingers.

  75. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Too many choices here tonight –

    All of get a cookie and a warm glass of milk — then it’s off to bed

  76. ken
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Bob –

    That was good — poignant — you can have the biggest cookie

  77. Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    I suppose they think all these comments actually bother me. heh

  78. ksgrm
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Ken great post. We all need to look at our neighbors, friends or even just some one you see ocassionally. We never know when someone just needs an hour or two to recharge their engines. They think of it as a sign of weakness and will hardly ever ask for help. Something as simple as just offering to read to some one for a few minutes a week will give a caretaker time for themselves to do something as simple as taking a nap.

    Thanks for the reminder.

  79. Bob
    Posted April 22, 2007 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Can I have the peanut butter cookie, Ken?

  80. Steven Davis
    Posted April 23, 2007 at 2:37 am | Permalink

    Sorry, I am unconvinced that certain above named posters are the same.

    1) I think a more parsimonious answer is that those who have very little to say sound astoundingly alike. Big surprise…there.

    2) And on the time dimension, if we go by that alone, I could be JM or Republican. Scary thought.

    Note to wife: time to get the involuntary treatment petition if number 2) is true.

  81. Steven Davis
    Posted April 23, 2007 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Humans are meaning-making, pattern perceiving organisms. This has worked well for us over evolutionary time. But these assests can lead us terribly astray, sometimes.

    Never forget, grasshopper: There is more than one dumb ass in the universe.

  82. Posted April 23, 2007 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    You could be right, Steven.

    It’s certainly true that there are a lot of dumba$$es out there.

    Bush’s approval rating is still above 30 percent, for instance, when anyone who’s paying attention can see that this administration has been a worse disaster to our country than an Al Qaeda attack.

    But while there are a lot of idiots out there, how many of those idiots routinely post on the WE Blog between 1:30 and 5 AM?

    That has to narrow down the idiot pool considerably.

    Anyway, even if Republican isn’t JM, he deserves the label “liar” after what he did to Clark . . .

    That’s not in dispute.

  83. GMC70
    Posted April 23, 2007 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Bob:

    “It is well know by law enforcement and the insurance industry that most road rage incidents are caused by right wing drivers. Studies have shown that 73.3% of road rage perpetrators identify themselves as right of center or right wingers.”

    Bull*&#%. Pure and simple. Bull$#^@. You made the statement – wanna come up with those “studies?”

  84. Posted April 23, 2007 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know where Bob got his info, GMC, but here’s a study that showed a link between having a gun in the car and road rage:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V5S-4J3WGGY-1&_user=10&_coverDate=07%2F31%2F2006&_rdoc=1&_fmt=summary&_orig=browse&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=54c5b2623dd57f863f13b0290a925926

    From the abstract:

    Results

    Seventeen percent admitted making obscene or rude gestures, and 9% had aggressively followed too closely. Forty-six percent reported victimization by each of these behaviors in the past year. Males, young adults, binge drinkers, those who do not believe most people can be trusted, those ever arrested for a non-traffic violation, and motorists who had been in a vehicle in which there was a gun were more likely to engage in such forms of road rage.

  85. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted April 23, 2007 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Capn, all that linked study does is show a propensity for “road rage” by those described, including those with a weapon in the vehicle. There is no fair inference, IMHO, to be drawn from this as to the political leanings of the individuals involved. Thus, unless Bob has something more, his posted comment (while perhaps his opinion) doesn’t seem to be substantiated.