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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House wants to appoint a high-profile overseer to manage the in Iraq and Afghanistan but has had trouble finding someone to take the job, The Washington Post reported on Wednesday. At least three retired four-star generals approached by the White House in recent weeks have turned down the position, the report said.The war “czar” would report directly to President George W. Bush” and national security adviser Stephen Hadley and would have authority to issue directions to the Pentagon and the State Department, the newspaper said.Retired Marine Gen. John “Jack” Sheehan, a former top NATO commander, was among those who rejected the job, the newspaper reported.”The very fundamental issue is, they don’t know where the hell they’re going,” Sheehan told the Post. Sheehan said he believes that Vice President Dick Cheney and his hawkish allies remain more powerful within the administration than pragmatists looking for a way out of Iraq, the Post reported.”So rather than go over there, develop an ulcer and eventually leave, I said, ‘No, thanks,’ ” Sheehan told the paper.Retired Army Gen. Jack Keane and retired Air Force Gen. Joseph Ralston were also approached and said they were not interested in the position, the newspaper said, citing sources.Ralston declined to comment while Keane confirmed he turned down the job, the Post said.The White House has not publicly disclosed its interest in creating the position, hoping to find someone to fill the post before the job is announced.Officials said they were still considering options to reorganize the White House’s management of the two wars, the Post said.
as the saying goes “We are looking for a few good men!”
Interesting post, Writer. I can’t imagine why anyone with a brain would want such a job. First, it is a job that would last less than two years in the best of all worlds, and would NOT really be a job where you were in charge - Cheney would constantly be sitting on your shoulder. Why doesn’t Cheney take the job?
Speaking of Sheehans…..
Cindy SheeStillRidesHerSonsCoffin is speaking at Purdue - but over 400 students are planning to protest her speech. It appears that college kids are getting sick and tired of anti-American speakers being invited to talk.
One student says, “Since first attracting media attention with her protests and outlandish demands, Ms. Sheehan has embarrassed herself by word and deed. She has collected tens of thousands of dollars acting as a ventriloquist for her dead son, who willingly joined the armed services and may or may not have agreed with what she is doing “in his name.” She has said the war on terrorism is nothing more than George Bush doing the bidding of a Jewish cabal, putting her in league with David Duke, among others. She has publicly embraced a dictator.” ~ Matt May
It’s encouraging to know that we DO have some students today that recognize subversion when they see it.
This country enjoys a long history of peaceful protest and assembly. Those few students who may show up to protest Sheehan have a right to do that, just like the students who showed up to protest hatchet man Karl Rove’s appearance at another college recently. But for the students protesting all over this country against the Vietnam War, maybe 100,000 US soldiers would have died there before the old farts running the country saw the light.
I don’t think your use of the word “subversion” in your post GS was patriotic, respectful of your fellow citizens, or reflective of your intelligence.
“”SUBVERSION” (from http://www.m-w.com) - the act of subverting: the state of being subverted; especially, a systematic attempt to overthrow or undermine a government or political system by persons working secretly from within.
GS,Please explain how Cindy S. has done anything subversive. While she may be an overwrought twit, she’s certainly not subversive. Your whole bag of tricks seems to consist of mostly name calling and cut and paste articles. You seem to be very big on terms like “sedition” and “treason” to describe anybody who disagrees with you.
It’s not subversion it’s freedom of speech — what her son and others (including moi’) have fought and died for. The students have it - you have it, yes even Cindy S has it
Writer dog - Sounds like the administration is looking for a future scapegoat. Why do we have a Sec. of Defense? Active duty Four star generals? No wonder the retired generals don’t want the job — it exposes them to being blamed for the administrations failures in the execution of the war on terror.
Interesting article in the paper yesterday. 83% of the American people believe global warming to be a serious problem. Which leaves 17% with their head still in the sand.
Bottom line: either the naysayers don’t believe in scientific date (which would be my guess), or they don’t care. It’s coming people, and we better start thinking about lifestyle changes.
Looking for a few good Whipping Boys, I mean Czar. We’ve already have a CIC, inept though he is.
Now that I think about it, is that not what the secretary of defense is suppose to be doing? The Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff doing? Rummy was in total charge of the Iraq war, you trying to tell me it takes three people the SOD, the chair of the chiefs and now a war czar to replace Rumsfield?
This is from the Clinton era, but is still relevant — i.e. unresolved. I think the US got caught with her hand in the cookie jar. It will be interesting how this turns out, and also interesting why this hasn’t hit the MSM.
//venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=2011
Purdue, huh?
I know the place well.
It’s conservative and apathetic. They could maybe get 400 students to show up if they offered free beer, but then most of them wouldn’t know who Sheehan is . . .
Dittos to Kelly. GS, your “liberals hate America” screed was tiresome from the start, now it’s downright intolerable.
Find a new lie to repeat, will you please?
So Mark Turgeon has decided to take the money and run. Good for him! Just about anyone would better himself by leaving Wichita and Turgeon is no exception. Now, the dog killers at WhatSamattayoU have to come up with a replacement. They lucked out with Turgeon. It’s hard to find an up-and-comer who wants to work in any field in Wichita these days. Add to it the fact that the assistants and the best recruits are leaving town and you have a real setback for the Shockers. Oh, well. Maybe that artiste can sculpt another $450,000 slug to stick in front of Koch Arena. That’ll pack ‘em in while waiting another 20 years for a roundball renaissance. You betcha!
Why doesn’t Cheney take the job?Posted by: kelly | April 11, 2007 at 04:19 AM
Because he’s already playing President.
But seriously - isn’t this “czar” position already filled? Isn’t coordination between departments the President’s JOB? This is just another cynical way Bush can offload responsibility for actually doing anything onto anyone but him.
Why doesn’t Cheney take the job?Posted by: kelly | April 11, 2007 at 04:19 AM
Because he’s already playing President.
But seriously - isn’t this “czar” position already filled? Isn’t coordination between departments the President’s JOB? This is just another cynical way Bush can offload responsibility for actually doing anything onto anyone but him.
“It’s hard to find an up-and-comer who wants to work in any field in Wichita these days.”
Ranch Hand do you have anything to back this up? I know MANY in the professional fields! I’m assuming you’re one of those locals that hate Wichita for some reason that I have yet to figure out…
There was a good article in either yesterday’s or today’s USA Today mentioning the legislation before congress to end the up to 2 year wait times for disability applicants.
It states the procedure saves the government money.
I would like to know how, because they backdate the payments from the time you applied. So how is that saving money? Unless that many people died waiting for services they desperately needed?
It is time to address the needs of the disabled in a reasonable amount of time. This two year wait is a bunch of bs.
PM - Having worked with people with disabilities for the last several years, I’ve come to the conclusion that the reason it saves government money isn’t because the applicants die, it’s because they just lose track of their case or give up. It’s a sad fact, and I think, part of the governments intent.
TDT-
I can attest to that. I have assissted three people in getting disability SSI. Under three different admins. I have been told each tim “confidentially” that it takes more than three attempts, in an attempt to weed out those who shouldn’t get it anyway. Bad logic, but there it is
LJ - I have been told the same thing. It was always frustrating though, since the clients I was trying to help would often end up homeless or near homeless just waiting and appealing, waiting and appealing.
Mayor Brewer wants city wide wireless access ….. sounds like a cable tv type fiasco. I wonder what horse he has in that race — some cooperative tie in with the city manager?
How about upgrading equipment in the police department first? Video cameras — how about photo radar and video cams in high crime areas — all have proved constitutional> Hhis from the state of Illinois:
Illinois will begin using photo radar in freeway work zones in July. Second offense tickets are $1,000 with license suspension.Beginning in July the State of Illinois will use speed cameras in areas designated as “Work Zones” on major freeways. Anyone caught by these devices will be mailed a $375.00 ticket for the FIRST offense, but the SECOND offense will cost $1000.00 and comes with a 90-Day suspension. Drivers will also receive demerit points against their license, which allows insurance companies to raise their rates. This represents the harshest penalty structure yet for a city or state using PHOTO enforcements. The State will begin with TWO camera vans issuing tickets in work zones with speed limits lowered to 45 MPH. Photographs of both the Driver’s face and License plate are taken.
Wichita could actually almost catch up with programs that have been in existence and successful for years in other cities
J M Walker,
The 83% who believe global warming is a serious problem is UP from 70% in 2004. The “very serious” responses = 56%, an increase from 40% in ‘04.
Looks like more people are finally believing the climate scientists, instead of misinformation from fossil-energy PR hacks, right-wingers, etc..
From ‘Key Findings’ PDF at http://www.yale.edu/envirocenter/environmentalpoll.htm
How serious a problem would you say is global warming?Very serious 56%Somewhat serious 27% (total = 83%)Not very serious 8%Not at all serious 6%
Also interesting: “Close to two-thirds (63%) of Americans agree that our country “is in as much danger from environmental hazards such as air pollution and global warming as it is from terrorists.” ”
The survey also asked about quality of the environment in the U.S., sources of information, dependence on imported oil, and other issues.
Press release’Sea Change in Public Attitudes Toward Global Warming EmergesClimate Change Seen as Big a Threat as Terrorism’http://www.yale.edu/envirocenter/yale_epoll2007_pr.pdf“Dan Esty, director of the Yale Center for Environmental Law and Policy, which commissioned the survey, says the United States is in the midst of a “revolution,” in which the business community is embracing the profit potential of a burgeoning green consumer movement.And frustrated with the limits of government action, the public increasingly wants business to solve environmental problems.”
The Scientist who predicted Global Cooling back in the 70s are started to sound like geniuses with all these April snow storms. :D
Gee, I wonder if Shehan will have anything thrown at her or assaulted such as what occured to Ann Coulter???
I got a question for the group.
Why is mediocre applauded?
Republican,
You still don’t understand the difference between weather and climate?
And you don’t seem to understand the difference between alarmism from journalists, and predictions from scientists.
http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/misc-non-science.html“”Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”
That was in Newsweek’s 1975 ‘The Cooling World’. The NAS had NO climate “prediction”.
In 1977, scientific opinion converged on global warming, not cooling.http://www.aip.org/history/exhibits/climate/timeline.htm
Three decades of intense research, and observed warming proves they’re correct.
Cosmos,
You still don’t understand humor.
“Three decades of intense research, and observed warming proves they’re correct.”
cosmos- Are you still fapping on this?Boring you are. By Yoda.
The true results of ‘voodoo economics’ :WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government posted a $96.27 billion budget deficit in March, a 12.9 percent increase over March last year, the Treasury said on Wednesday, as record outlays outstripped slower revenue growth.
ADVERTISEMENTThe federal government took in total receipts of $166.49 billion last month. While it was a record for March that was up 1.2 percent from the year-ago total of $164.56 billion, it was a growth rate significantly smaller than that registered in recent months.
But March outlays, which included some accelerated foreign aid payments and hefty tax refunds, totaled $262.76 billion, a record for any month, compared to $249.84 billion in March 2006.
The March deficit was bigger than the $85 billion shortfall predicted by Wall Street analysts in a Reuters poll.
Although revenues did slow in March, it may be too soon to conclude this is a sign of slowing growth in the U.S. economy, said Lou Crandall, chief economist at Wrightson ICAP in Jersey City, New Jersey and a longtime budget watcher.
“The real question is how things look toward the end of the second quarter,” he said, adding that April receipts are expected to be strong due to taxes paid on big bonus payments based on 2006 incentive plans.
“April taxes reflect what happened last year. The only debate about April is whether taxes will be continuing the strong trend that we’ve seen recently or be the last hurrah for revenues,” Crandall added.
AID FOR ISRAEL, EGYPT
About $3 billion of the increase in the March deficit was due to annual military aid payments to Israel and Egypt that were made in March instead of December as they were the previous fiscal year, the Congressional Budget Office said.
Accounting adjustments involving subsidies for loan guaranty programs offered by several agencies contributed about $3 billion to the deficit gain. And the CBO noted there was one less Wednesday in March this year — a significant payday — which reduced payroll withholding.
For the first six months of fiscal 2007, which started on October 1, 2006, the deficit shrank to $258.43 billion from the year-ago deficit of $302.94 billion, which remains the record for a first half of a fiscal year.
First-half receipts were up 8.0 percent from a year earlier to a record $1.121 trillion, while outlays rose just 2.9 percent to a record $1.379 trillion.
A Treasury official said the U.S. government has run a deficit in March every year since 1970 and has seen March surpluses only 13 times in the last 53 years — mostly in the late 1950s and the 1960s.
He said the month typically reflects early tax returns filed by individuals
Bring em home — impeach Howdy Doody.
Was willing to give GWB some slack on the war although I never thought it was a wise move. Now that they are extending soldiers tours to 15 months and not asking the American public to make any sacrifices, drive less, improve MPG, have a viable alternative fuel research policy and funding it really is time to quit throwing our soldiers bodies for an unwinnable effort. Deploy more to Afghanistan or wherever Osama and other AQ / terrorists leaders or camps and put a damper on at least some of the terrorist activity — bring the troops home until we as a country are willing to make sacrifices to prosecute the war …
… at the same time start the proceedings to get GWB and DC out of the white house or at least tie their hands up enough to where they could do no more damage to our international credibility, economy and the lives of the soldiers and their families
Enough is enough
Republican,
So you are admitting that humans have caused GW?
Posting about recent snow storms, and the magazines writing in the 1970’s about “global cooling” is an anti-AGW denial tactic.
It’s tongue-in-cheek HUMOR only when it’s from someone who is KNOWN to believe that humans have caused GW.
Humans are the observers in Climate Change. A change in which they have incorrectly chosen an etiology of their own design.
Guess who’s the new celebrity poster boy for environmentalism?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032542/site/newsweek/
Arnold gave a terrific speach today at Georgetown University. He’s articulate, funny and charismatic. (C-SPAN broadcast it twice. WEBloggers can download the video from cspan.org) If he were native-born, he’d leave the other Republican presidential candidates in the dust.
Anyway, his message is that there’s a lot of money to be made in carbon dioxide emission reduction, the same stance held by Amory Lovins and the Rocky Mountain Institute, which is to say economy vs. environment is a false dichotomy.
In February, BP gave a 10-year $500 million contract to the University of California Berkeley, the DOE Lawrence-Berkeley Lab (located on the UCB campus, and staffed by UCB professors), and the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign to collaboratively develop biofuels. Cellulosic ethanol, which could use up to 90% of non-water plant mass is one target, as are plant oils for biodiesel.
GE has invested heavily in wind-turbine technology.
http://www.gepower.com/businesses/ge_wind_energy/en/index.htm
Alternative energy is a “post-partisan” issue. (This is a phrase we are going to see more and more of in the coming months and years.)
Germany is using wind-generation to phase-out nuclear power plants.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1765054.stm
Kansas has humongous wind energy. With expertise in composites and aerodynamics, what would happen if Wichita became a leading design and manufacturing center for wind-generation systems?
Ben, what do you think?
A great man has left us.
Kurt Vonnegut, 1922-2007.
This is from a poem, “Requiem,” in his final book, “A Man Without a Country.”
When the last living thing
has died on account of us,
how poetical it would be
if Earth could say,
in a voice floating up
perhaps
from the floor
of the Grand Canyon,
“It is done.”
People did not like it here.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp
Republican,
So you define “humor” as:
* LYING about what scientists in the 1970’s knew, and predicted.* IGNORING the very strong science today, 3 decades later, proving that humans have caused GW.* Being completely impotent and UNABLE to explain what HAS caused the observed warming, if it’s not human-added GHG’s, etc..
Yep… you’re a real “funny” guy. The future will NOT laugh at your “joke”.
“Because we don’t think about future generations, they will never forget us.” Henrik Tikkanen
Kurt Vonnegut has passed. So it goes.
I weep.
Strong science Cosmos? I thought it was a science of consensus among the UN assorted herd of scientists looking for a paycheck.
Cosmos thinks humor is lying. I find that humorous. Ooops! I must be lying! ;)
Vonnegut was an interesting Socialist and Unitarian. I wonder what commentary he would offer from the viewpoint of a grave?
I think Vonnegut was happy with sharing his viewpoints while living. I’m not so sure he believed there was anything “beyond” the grave.
I’m not so sure he believed there was anything “beyond” the grave.
Posted by: Tom | April 11, 2007 at 11:35 PM
Exactly my point. :)
So why did you pose the question? Just to be a jerk?
He’s your hero, you decide what I am.
Coy doesn’t suit you, Republican. Lots of guys have tried to hit on me by being coy. It didn’t work for them - why do you think it would work for you?
Nice try Tom, but I’m heterosexual.
It’s an old ‘Queen’ trick you just tried.
Too bad it wasn’t even original, I really thought you had more class than that Tom.
Guess it proves I can be wrong about a person.
Republican,
Have you so quickly forgotten that the IPCC climate scientists complained that the bureaucrats watered down their science? Perhaps you should take notes?
CAN you explain WHAT has caused the rising temperatures shown in IPCC’s graphs on this page?
‘WSJ in denial about Global Warming’http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/04/wsj_in_denial_about_global_war.php
Or, are you impotent to explain what is causing dramatic changes to our ONLY Earth?
And please don’t use the temperatures = averaging all the phone #’s in the phone books lie again — that’s debunked by a link at that page.
I really thought you had more class than thatPosted by: Republican | April 11, 2007 at 11:50 PM
I have enough class not to be constantly trying to bait people into pointless arguments.
I have enough class to apologize when I’ve been unnecessarily offensive, and to do so without being badgered or prompted.
I have enough class to be consistent in how I treat people, whether I disagree with their views or not.
I have enough class to stand up for the rights of people whose views I oppose, because that’s the right thing to do.
I have enough class to post here under my own identity, and to own every word I write.
Yes, you can certainly be wrong about a person.
:)
Cosmos,
Do you know the Editorial Writer who wrote that WSJ article? Guess what? I’m not him. :)
Tom, to establish one’s own classiness, is by definition extraction, a lack of class.
Speaking of definitions, did you take the time to consider the definitions of “sedition” and “dissent” I posted for you earlier today?
Yes Tom, and I find your proposed consideration subversive. :)
Intelligent, honest people admit when they’re wrong. I thought you had at least that much class, Republican.
I guess that proves I can be wrong about a person.
I am dissenting from your characterization of me. :)
So…since I’m so clearly wrong about you, that means:
- You’ll chide those with whom you share ideology when they engage in ad hominems against others;
- You’ll remain focused on the message, and won’t attack the integrity of the speaker;
- You’ll respect the right of others to have opinions very different from yours, and will defend their right to hold them
I’m very eager to be proven wrong about you.
And for now, it’s goodnight. I’m off to Topeka tomorrow.
Oh good a list of moral values by Tom.
I’ll study them and give them the appropriate file space.
Republican,
“Do you know the Editorial Writer who wrote that WSJ article? Guess what? I’m not him. :)”
That’s irrelevant. Are YOU impotent to explain WHAT IS causing dramatic changes to our ONLY Earth? You’ve admitted “yes”, by posting “I’m not him”.
Now… please prove me wrong.
Explain how human-added GHG’s would NOT cause our Earth to warm, AND explain what IS causing our Earth to warm.
Mark Schooley,
Perhaps the best thing about wind and solar energy is that the “fuel costs” NEVER, ever increase.
That’s unlike fossil-fuel and uranium costs, which have risen, and will continue to rise, due to supply-demand, and rises in transport costs.
And the cost of cutting energy demand with higher efficiency, our cheapest “fuel”, will decrease even more with new technologies, and more mass production.
Cosmos,
Answer me this:(in your own words, not hyperlinks)
What is the average delay (in years) of Climate Change Cycles between cooling or heating and CO2?
Explain how measuring temperature with vertical structure methods which rely heavily on latitudinal position can be used in climate cycle modeling programs when modelers disagree on methods and post-analysis methods.
Explain to me how climate change occurred before there were any humans.
Explain why the IPCC used in its report,”atmosphere is the most unstable and rapidly changing part of the system” and then try to program climate models that simulate rapid changing instability into static model interpretations.
Explain why fingerprint measurement is used by IPCC to portray climate change in an ever changing dynamic cycle of climate change.
That should get you started on some homework. :)
“Cosmos,
Answer me this:(in your own words, not hyperlinks)”
This is not a serious request and I suspect you know this. There is no reason whatsoever when having a debate about the reality of phenomenea to request that someone not use hyperlinks to relevant information, except to put restrictions on the information that one’s opponent can use.
Stop wasting our time.
I mean phenomena.
Republican,
“Explain to me how climate change occurred before there were any humans.”
Are you claiming that humans are too INSIGNIFICANT to impact climate? Do you believe that if humans had a major nuclear war, the dust would NOT cool Earth’s climate?
Do you believe that humans causing an ~ 40% increase in CO2, ~ 150% increase in methane, plus human-made CFC’s, SF’s, etc = ZERO effect on Earth’s climate???
You are UNABLE to explain how human-added GHG’s would NOT cause the results graphed on page 11 of http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf
I knew Cosmos couldn’t resist the hyperlink. :)
Notice how Cosmos answers one of my questions with questions.
I’m beginning to believe Cosmos has zero scientific background and is winging it.
By the way Cosmos, if humans had a nuclear war, what humans that were left would be struggling to survive and most of those surviving would be more worried about the effects of fallout and contaminated water and food sources than climate change.
There have been a number of causes for climate change ‘pre-humen’. One is the Milankovitch cycles; studying these has given us much of the insight we use today. Our present “super-interglacial” is excursioning far outside the ‘envelope’ of those cycles.
You are, of course, correct if we had a significant nuclear exchange. We would have MUCH bigger problems - cooling first then warming as the particulate clears from the atmosphere. Not to mention radiation, famine, etc. The four horsemen would rule the earth.
Notice how Republican trys to avoid my point that humans CAN cause significant climate change.
And he AVOIDS answering the simple, obvious questions:1) WHY wouldn’t human-added GHG’s cause GW?2) WHAT has caused the recent observed warming, if it’s NOT human-added GHG’s?
Republican doesn’t use hyperlinks because he doesn’t want you the know the date, context, etc.
His IPCC quote, “atmosphere is the most unstable” is from the old 2001 report, http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/040.htm
The new 2007 SPM says:”Since the Third Assessment Report (TAR), new observations and related modelling of greenhouse gases, solar activity, land surface properties and some aspects of aerosols have led to improvements in the quantitative estimates of radiative forcing.”
Dr. Huie (switches as the debate is now scientific.) :)
I’m somewhat suspicious of the super-interglacial theory. One reason is that during the last interglacial period the temperatures were higher than they are now. As the GW Warmers claim there is a proportionality that now exist whereas the cycle exchanges to the various spheres (atmos, tropos, etc.) are seen to be as accelerating.
This in of itself is not helpful as we cannot compare rates of accelerated sphere recycling of oceanic heat loss or gain with any degree of accuracy. Oh yes, we are more accurate today with measurements, but we don’t have the luxury to measure the past in the same way.
Accelerated trends is not a corollary I would want to hang my hat on.
I think there lies confusion with the Conveyor Belt feedback mechanism. This feedback will only reduce the heat flux into Arctic. Which will lead to restoration of the ice cover. Which will lead to increase of the salinity. Which could restore the thermohaline circulation and complete the feedback loop.
For one the salinity of oceans in the feedback loop are very small in their variability. This accounts for the polar region ice to be pretty much self contained in the feedback loop. There are for sure some influences of Gulf stream warming, but it is diluted in its effects by the time it reaches the Arctic regions.
With all of that mumbo-jumbo just stated, it is wise to plan for the impacts of Climate Change.
My thoughts on the matter is that the U.N. IPCC method is not the only method to do so. That is, Carbon Taxes without representation.
Extracting pounds of flesh (revenue) without alternative methods is asking for innovation to be stifled. We cannot simply hold our wet fingers up in the air and state that the wind has changed direction and we must strengthen the affected wall of our tent. We must accurately and carefully plan for a structure that will not be affected by the direction of wind.
Oops, be back later and my apologies for the wind analogy on the tent, I had chili last night, it affects my synapses. :)
Cosmos,
A quick response before I press on to other matters…
Some of the IPCC point to the melting permafrost as evidence of man-made Global Warming. They made this assumption without establishing baselines of what permafrost layers are actually supposed to be.
The Russian peat stores are so enormous that they account for one-third of all the carbon reserves in the world and a huge amount of contributory methane releases.
Do you know what happens when peat stores of permafrost areas expand? It creates an acidic environment where live plants affected by the expansion do not decay. In effect, it becomes one enormous carbon sink. If you wait around long enough Cosmos, you find find some coal formations in these areas. Got a few million years to spare?
Republican,
The permafrost is thawing, because the northern latitudes are warming the fastest.
Thawing permafrost could release significant amounts of CO2 and CH4 — a postive feedback for AGW.
Ah yes Cosmos, but this effect is caused by what? The North Atlantic Oscillation Effect perhaps?
What drives the North Atlantic Oscillation? Is it perhaps “pushed” by another effect? How about the El Niño–Southern Oscillation?
El Niño is a disruption of the ocean-atmosphere system in the tropical Pacific having important consequences for weather around the globe. This condition results in redistribution of rains with flooding and droughts.
How does Global Warming affect El Ninjo? Some scientist say surface sea temperatures. But really, this is only part of the process.
Perhaps Cosmos, you would like to explain the warming period when Mammoths roamed the earth. How did warming and thawing of permafrosts occur way back then?
Was it from some emission? Where did the emissions come from? Volcanoes and thermal anomalies above ground and below sea level?
Are these thermal anomalies static Cosmos? Have they never shifted?
There is no one explanation on how El Nino and La Ninja works. There are theories, but nothing there that follows conclusively.
And you want to hang your hat on the permafrost in Russia exactly by what means? What caused that heat rise? El nino which is inherently larger in it’s climate change impact that all of the history of man combined.
Climate change, you bet Cosmos. I suspect there are causes that have been with us all along that have yet to be explained.
I wonder if snow continues in latter spring months like it has recently, what will be the Albedo effect on that region? Global Warming Cosmos?
:)
Republican,
Land warms faster than the oceans, and the large majority of land is in the Northern hemisphere.
Look at the global maps at http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2005/
Also, the warmest anomalies occur during the cold seasons.
duh Cosmos…
What does that have to do with what I was talking about?
Without your hyperlinks you can’t discuss it, can you Cosmos? :)
Republican,
I posted: “the northern latitudes are warming the fastest.”
You asked: “but this effect is caused by what?”
I gave the correct answer: “Land warms faster than the oceans, and the large majority of land is in the Northern hemisphere.”
Land and oceans are warming as projected by the combined natural and human-caused forcings.
Just because you refuse to believe that human-added GHG’s are causing GW does NOT mean that you’re correct.
Look at a globe if you don’t want to click my link.
Okay Cosmos, tell me how GHG’s drive El Ninjo and the other cyclic events on earth.
You seem to think that man made co2 drives everything in climate.
Which is larger in area on the globe Cosmos, land or water?
So you’re saying the Northern and Southern Oscillations are caused by man. How come these existed before men did if what you say is true?
Why are you ignoring the facts of how the last ice age ended and began?
Listen to Republican blathering on about crap that he hasn’t a clue about:
Peat bogs in Russia, El Nino, salinity, Larson B ice shelves, northern and southern oscillations. . . all this from a guy who can’t figure out the difference between “it’s” (a contraction) and “its” (a possessive pronoun).
The same guy who gets NOVA (as in a star blowing up) confused with ANOVA (a statistical analysis of variance of means) . . . and then claims that the old stats books called it NOVA.
Republican thinks the BS degree he earned in college means he majored in Bull Sh*t.
I don’t have all the answers about Global Warming. But the one thing I’m sure about is that Republican doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about . . .
Nice ad hominem attack there Capn.
Maybe GMC should bring up the reason why you changed your name.
I noticed how you can’t let things go, you keep repeating the smallest of errors that people do. And btw I already admitted to the NOVA error.
Must be in your nature to be mean eh Capn?
You provide nothing to the conversation. This is a BLOG, not your personal opinion station.
Get over it.
Actually, no, you never did admit to the NOVA error.
Since you’re the frikking google king, I expect you to find where you admitted it and repost it now.
Also, for those of you who still labor under the misapprehension that our guys are over in Iraq to help the common Iraqis, maybe this visual proof of contractors shooting the hell out of passing cars with machine guns will dissuade you of that ridiculous myth.
http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/contract/
A comment about ENSO which I plan to bring up in a climatology blog: it seems like the cycling period between El Nino and La Nina is going faster and stronger than in the past. It used to take several years to cycle from one to the other but we have flipped from Nino to Nina in one year. Don’t know if the larger amount of energy in the system to work with is responsible but it is intriguing.
Cool stuff Dr. Huie,
I think there is more to the Oscillations than meets the initial examinations or measurements.
Let us know what you find out about the matter.
I’m sure it’s more than steam escaping out of the bath house. :D
Republican,
“You seem to think that man made co2 drives everything in climate.”
Again (SIGH) you prove you do NOT read what I post: “Land and oceans are warming as projected by the combined natural and human-caused forcings.”
See the “natural” there? Those are the blue-shaded bands on the graphs on page 11 of http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf
And my “human-added GHG’s” does NOT = only “man made co2″.
Republican: “Which is larger in area on the globe Cosmos, land or water?”
Water, and it’s WARMING, just like land, but slower. Oceans are gaining a huge heat content.
Does Republican have a explanation for the oceans and land warming? NOPE, because he denies the science that supports AGW.
So instead, he just babbles on about ocean oscillations, previous ice ages, Mammoths, volcanoes… or whatever he can think of.
Capt America, you think anything with income above the social security cap is RICH??????
It’s only $97,500, and already indexed for inflation.
I make that, but I am NOT RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Three kids, a dog, a cat, two car garage, three cars, one braces, two in college (KU ROCK CHALK).
I am far, far from rich. And I PAY ENOUGH!!!