Never say never: Sunday liquor sales at last

Good for the Wichita City Council for voting 5-1 Tuesday to allow liquor sales on Sundays. Now the market, rather than City Hall, will decide which days of the week these businesses are open. And the timing makes good fiscal sense: If opponents get the 6,701 signatures from registered voters needed to put the issue on a ballot, it can be on the same Aug. 7 ballot as the Sedgwick County casino question. The process seems to be working as it should — though two years after the Legislature said it could.
Posted by Rhonda Holman

28 Comments

  1. Wiseman
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 3:22 am | Permalink

    They can do all the belly aching they want about Sunday sales and casinos, when Aug.7 comes around it will show who the majority is and in what they want.For the religious fundamentalist, pride cometh before the fall.

  2. Kev
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    It is important that all of you get out and vote Aug 7th to FREE yourselves from the grip of the Christian Taliban in Kansas. You got one shot to gain your freedoms and not allow your state to remain a theocracy.

  3. J M Walker
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    O good, now I have to watch for the drunks on the road on Sunday as well as the rest of the week. All in the name of the almighty dollar. So now, one can get drunk and play the slots. Maybe there should be a law saying anybody on welfare is not allowed to gamble. Then their children may be able to get enough to eat.

  4. ken
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    Tom

    “O good, now I have to watch for the drunks on the road on Sunday as well as the rest of the week.”

    They were already on the road on Sunday — just driving further to get their liquor ….

    “All in the name of the almighty dollar.”In God We Trust is printed on our money — irony?

    “So now, one can get drunk and play the slots. Maybe there should be a law saying anybody on welfare is not allowed to gamble.”

    Some merit to the idea, — but how are they identified? A scarlet “W”?

  5. Posted April 25, 2007 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    Um, Ken… That was JM Walker’s post, not mine.

  6. raptor
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    Wade Moore is sniveling about “taking the last holy day away” and forcing businesses to be open? Who is this clown?

    Obviously, he is one of the “do gooders” who is going to waste taxpayer money to force an election in which over 65% of the people will vote to allow this ordinance.

    What a moron.

  7. Posted April 25, 2007 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    There will be some liquor stores that won’t open on Sunday as they can’t afford to pay someone on Sunday nor can they afford to keep the store open an extra day. Perhaps they want a day of rest as well.

    If the boozers can’t stand 1 day without their hootch, let the cry babies vote on it.

    What a bunch of alcoholics, can’t even go one day with out their precious booze.

  8. Posted April 25, 2007 at 7:23 am | Permalink

    While I’m a Christian, I never have understood why Christians feel the need to fit the laws to their religion. There is nothing wrong with drinking…drunkenness is where the problem lies.

  9. raptor
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    Repub…has nothing to do with alcohol abuse. True alcoholics lay in a supply in advance of restricted sales. This is more of a reclamation of the US Constitution..the part about Congress (later interpreted to mean all levels of government) will make no laws abridging or respecting the establishment of religion..or words close to that. This banning of alcohol sales on ‘church day’ is a quaint old blue law that needed to go away.

    Besides..there are times when people would like to be able to buy a bottle of wine for dinner. Or unexpected guests show up. It is about people being treated like adults instead of being ordered around by some holier than thou church people.

  10. Posted April 25, 2007 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    Well jeeze raptor if I had only known that opening liquor stores on Sundays was a stance on the Constitution, I would have kept quiet.

    Normally we agree raptor, but I have to point out the obvious here. That is, only the drinker wants seven day a week access to the “legal drug” booze sales.

    If they want their Constitutional rights to get anesthetized, so be it.

    I take off my hat in sorrowful respect to all the dieing livers.

  11. raptor
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    Yer right, Repub..normally we do agree, but not this time. As a non drinker, I totally support this new ordinance, simply because of the implications of it.

    And, I speak from sad personal experience to know that a one day ban doesn’t begin to slow down the active alcoholics. At least it never stopped me or any of my friends in AA.

    Besides…it makes me happy to see the ‘holier than thou’ crowd get handed a setback. Childish, perhaps, but I like it!

  12. freedomfreak
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    People are entitled to do what they want, it’s about time they change this law! The true drunks will consume the same ammount of booze whether the stores are open 1 day per week, or 7. It’s a static number.

    Let’s not forget though, alcohol in itself is not some evil substance. It is a great social elixer, 1 or 2 per day is actually healthy for most people.

    I’m an ex-drunk like raptor. But not everyone is like me. Yes, I worry endlessly about those who still suffer. Sometimes too much, people can make their own choices, and live with them. People are not doomed for enjoying a drink from time to time, and if the urge hits them on Sunday, then so be it.

    By the way, I think I know raptor. He has a thing for HOT HOT HOT teenage Brazilian supermodels. :)

  13. raptor
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    Sorry, FF, that ain’t me. Thanks for the interesting mental image..but you have me confused with someone else.

  14. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Hee hee hee hee. How about a law that says no GUN SALES on Sunday? I bet republican would be all over that one.

    Isnt it so damn funny how the free market worshipers want the government to ease up on commerce restrictions…

    …all the while favoring commerce restrictions on a certain class of businesses.

    Could that be republican advocating the nanny state and restricting the freedom to operate for one class of business?

    Oh, and republican, while you are wiping the spittle off your screen, I’ll also comment that NO ONE is forcing any business to open on Sunday.

    There is no part of the law that says stores MUST open on Sunday. That would be COMPETITION that prods them to open.

    You do remember competition and the free market, right repub?

    I love how the republicans love the free market. Except when they dont.

  15. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    Oh, and the same post could be said about casinos and gaming.

    They love the free market, and the market CLEARLY wants gaming. There are businesses standing by, waiting for the REPUBLICAN NANNY STATE to give them permission to operate within the state’s boarders.

    So I guess us common folks are smart enough to be trusted with unfettered access to killing machine weapons…

    …but we are not smart enough to be trusted in the same town with slot machines without killing our children, wasting our wages and going on “welfare”?

    heheheheheh. Double standard, thy name is republican….

  16. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Oh, and as Tom pointed out, one more double standard.

    Voters NEEDED to vote on writing hate into the kansas konstitution. It was their RIGHT to vote on such an important issue, and they beat that drum mercilessly when they were hell bent to put the queers in their place.

    But a vote on gaming? Eh… not so much on the voters rights thing.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is republican.

  17. Posted April 25, 2007 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Homosexuals can gamble farmgrrl, as long as they don’t leave snail tracks in bar lounge.

  18. Ben
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    I would love to see the Arena put on that ballot too.

    I find all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about allowing private businesspeople to open their businesses on Sunday to be rather amusing. As noted above, ’serious’ drinkers know to stock up already. And, under existing law the bars are open so JM still has to dodge the drunks on the road.

    In fact, Paul posted a link recently showing that Sunday is the second most dangerous day of the week to drive. So, I doubt that allowing businesses to operate freely will make any difference.

  19. littlejohn
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    I agree. What days and what times businesess are open are of no business of the legislature. I rmember it used to be illegal for barbers to be open on Mondays, at the behest of the barbers I think. let any legal business be open any day of the week and at any time of day. Let the marketpalce decide!

  20. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    WTF? More gibberish from republican?

    Homosexuals can gamble farmgrrl, as long as they don’t leave snail tracks in bar lounge.

    Posted by: Republican | April 25, 2007 at 12:53 PM

    Could someone translate?

  21. TDT
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Could someone translate?

    Posted by: ksfarmgrrl | April 25, 2007 at 01:53 PM

    Was he asking “them” to wear pants?

  22. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Uh, I think most lesbians already wear pants. Except the lipstick lesbians, god bless their short little skirts!

    Now the guys? They wear pants too, except for the dragsters.

  23. Posted April 25, 2007 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    “Except the lipstick lesbians, god bless their short little skirts!”

    Hell yea!

  24. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Heheheheheh. My thoughts exactly!

  25. Kev
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    “There will be some liquor stores that won’t open on Sunday as they can’t afford to pay someone on Sunday nor can they afford to keep the store open an extra day. Perhaps they want a day of rest as well.

    If the boozers can’t stand 1 day without their hootch, let the cry babies vote on it.

    What a bunch of alcoholics, can’t even go one day with out their precious booze.”

    Nobody should be banned from making a business transaction on Sunday that they can make any other day of the week. It isn’t about booze but about freedom of religion and that the government has no place respecting a certain religion (Christianity) over others like the Muslims, Jews and 7th Day Advents which do not recognize Sunday as “The Sabbath”. I would say the same thing about the many states in the country that ban selling cars on Sunday. It is not their business to be doing such.

  26. Kev
    Posted April 25, 2007 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    “I agree. What days and what times businesess are open are of no business of the legislature. I rmember it used to be illegal for barbers to be open on Mondays, at the behest of the barbers I think. let any legal business be open any day of the week and at any time of day. Let the marketpalce decide!”

    There are still many barbers down here in GA that are closed Mondays although that is not the law and it does not seem to be hurting their business any. In fact some of the barbers that are open Sunday are closed Monday.

  27. freedomfreak
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Who WOULDN’T love teenage Brazilian supermodels? (18-19 of course)?

  28. Posted April 26, 2007 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    “Now the market, rather than City Hall, will decide”

    Ever notice that since this blog started the WE editorial staff actually admits to the concept of a free market?