Eugene Robinson points out in is Washington Post column several credibility issues regarding top officials in the Bush administration, in particular Karl Rove (in photo), the political genius who can’t seem to figure out how this e-mail thing works.
It seems the Republican National Committee was thoughtful enough to provide Rove and other White House staffers with laptop computers and special e-mail addresses to ensure that partisan political business would not be conducted using White House e-mail addresses and equipment. Now the White House has conceded that some official business may have been conducted using the RNC e-mail accounts, and these e-mails have somehow been lost.
Robinson also discussed other incidences of alleged corruption among high-ranking U.S. officials. But the issue of corruption is not reserved for the current administration or politicians; it seems to be spreading throughout American government on all levels, as well as through corporate America. Why do so many look the other way?
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No, the RNC was not “thoughtful” enough to provide them with NON governmental laptops and email…IT IS REQUIRED since it is against the law to do politics on gubment stuff.
Now if they did such they will likely be in trouble…but dont make it sound like they had these computers, email out of some nefarious deal.
ALL political parties people have their own party political email addresses and computers, cell phones for those separate purposes.
And yes, the Dems have theirs also, perhaps thoughtfully though.
I’m just sick of those who defend these people.
mrbill - and if they had not made the conscious decision to conduct government business on the RNC accounts I doubt there would be the controversy. However, Rove at.al. did make that decision and the further decision to erase those government-related emails.
The crimes and lies of bushco are well known. But I think you are missing the point about corruption spreading to ALL levels of government.
Actually, corruption on the local level is nothing new, but at least in my community, we seem to be paying more attention. And taking action.
Maybe that is why the entire City Council, Mayor, City Attorney, County Attorney and several prominent businesses in WaKeeney are under investigation by the AG’s office? Topics of investigation include unauthorized use of city assets, personal enrichment at city expense, and theft of benefits by people not eligible to receive them.
And the response of voters in the city and county?
No incumbent on the WaKeeney City or Trego County Commission has been re-elected in the last 12 years, I think. For sure for the last 6 years. A couple have decided not to run, but the ones who do run have been soundly defeated.
And for the record, people in WaKeeney and Trego County have been voting in record numbers, far exceeding the state or regional numbers.
Do you suppose the good folks there have had enough of corruption? Do you suppose they are taking action accordingly?
Oh, and btw, as a measure of the trouble with law enforcement in Trego County, the last four sheriffs, starting in the early nineties, have either resigned under a cloud or been defeated at the polls.
Gee, do ya suppose there might be a problem there? I cant wait to see if the AG really investigates or if he whitewashes because the county attorney is a democrat totally bought and sold by Hays and Ellis County.
Oh, and did I mention Trego County’s “special counsel” hired for the matter? Heheheh. The Ellis County Attorney. Another prominent democrat who supports the draining of Cedar Bluff. No corruption there. Uh-uh. No.
Stay tuned…
The key in Trego/Wakeeney is that there is someone to investigate them. That is why having separate independent branches of government it so important.
That is what has been lacking at the Federal level for the past 6 years. Congress has exercized ZERO oversight of the executive branch. And, with Gonzales there has been nothing from Justice.
That, however, is changing …
“The key in Trego/Wakeeney is that there is someone to investigate them. That is why having separate independent branches of government it so important.”
Very true Ben.
It is concerning though, to the people of Trego County, that governor leadership and the entire democratic machine in Kansas has supported Hays in their rape of the Smoky Hill River and Cedar Bluff.
Paul Morrison has CLOSE ties to Ellis County and Hays. HIS office is investigating a democratic county attorney, who lost the Cedar Bluff lawsuit because he “forgot” to file some paperwork on time.
My opinion is that the city/county attorney is at the root of the problems here. Dont forget that the current Ellis county attorney, the one being used as the “special counsel” used to BE the Trego county attorney, and he is buddies with the CURRENT Trego county attorney.
I think you can see why folks here are suspicious that this “investigation” might be a total whitewash.
I hope not. Time will tell. Someone should remind Morrison, Drees and governor leadership that the BIG problems are not usually caused by the crimes.
It’s the coverup that gets them.
There are a hell of a lot of folks in Kansas who wouldnt be too anxious to pull the thread that unravels the water office corruption and it’s relationship with Hays and Russell and governor leadership.
Do I feel a nose bandage coming on? heheheheheheh!
Oh, and btw, I supported Morrison over philllllll. I still stand by that position. Dont disappoint me Paul :)
It seems in Washington, and the three lessor levels of government, politicians are seeking an unblemished record for lying.
Is there some sort of trophy involved?
Bush gives Gonzo another vote of confidence this morning. After 71 “I don’t recalls” in his testimony last week. Bush actually said he was impressed by the AG’s responses to the questions posed. Seems like state, county and local govt’s are taking notes from Washington. Until we stand together on a national stage there will be corruption in the lower levels of gov’t.
A little linky here on the convergence of the USA firing scandal, the GSA corruption scandal, and a big private sector contributor.
It’s kinda hard to understand unless you have been following the General Services Administration scandal, but I found it interesting.
More corruption. I think the USA’s were not only fired for refusing to engage in ELECTION fraud. I think new and loyal USAs were needed in strategic locations to blunt the trauma of MULTIPLE investigations and corruption scandals.
Read it yourself.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×729885
Re Rove’s lack of credibility — Laurie David and Sheryl Crow try to talk to Rove about global warming,http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laurie-david-and-sheryl-crow/karl-rove-gets-thrown-und_b_46501.html “… We felt compelled to remind him that the research is done and the results are in (www.IPCC.ch).Mr. Rove exploded with even more venom. Like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum, Mr. Rove launched into a series of illogical arguments regarding China not doing enough thus neither should we. (Since when do we follow China’s lead?)”
In LibWorld:
“What will I believe today? I think I’ll check out democratunderground, maybe huffington, they’ll tell me.”
I listened to the Crow attempt to talk to Rove live. The interview was on Drudge last night. I wonder if the person writing this even listened or if they just took someone one elses word for Rove’s ‘meltdown’?
It was a joke. Entertainers who try to make theirselves out to be experts at something they have absolutely credibility on. I imagine Rove would have as much success at singing.
Farmgirl using the democraticunderground as a source is oh so much worse that Fox news which you refuse to read.
When the inuendo and accusations are finished, and no inditements are brought down we will see who is still standing. Government dollars flying out the window with Leaky Leahy at the helm. The demos are showing us that when put in charge they can stay very busy doing absolutely nothing.
hee hee hee hee hee
I love how DU sets them off.
No comment on the corruption scandal, just comments on Sheryl Crow?
And germie, you have previously posted links from free republic, otherwise known as freeperville. And you want to bag on DU?
Pot, meet kettle.
Surely that isnt the oh so civil wingnuttia dising sources and ignoring the content? heheheheh
There goes Cosmos and the discrediting. He says he doesn’t discredit people, but every chance he gets he does. What a hypocrite.
Cosmos motto in life is “if you don’t agree with me I’m going to hack you into tiny pieces by discrediting everything about you.”
Farmgrrlie, I noticed the same thing - comments on DU, but nothing about the underlying facts. Sounds like ducking to me.
BTW, I understand we have a mutual farmhand friend out by Garden City…
So germie, you will be issuing an apology when “indictments” do come down?
What about the head of GSA who was CONVICTED and is on his way to the slammer? The gal in my link was forced to resign because of the scandal. She either has been or will be indicted.
Again, when the indictments DO come down, will you just be whining about partisan politics? Or will you concede that there is a problem?
Funny how justice works in wingnuttia. Dems under investigation or indictment are bad. Repubs under investigation or indictment are victims of partisan politics.
Got it!
Hey Tom, good to see you, and yes we do. Someone I like and respect more than I could ever say. I only wish I were as strong and courageous.
I hope you all had a great weekend while I was slaving away….
hee hee hee hee!
ksgrm,
Laurie David and Sheryl Crow wrote that column… they were there.
“Entertainers who try to make theirselves out to be experts at something they have absolutely credibility on.”
Why do you believe that David and Crow are unable to research the issue?Anyone can easily compare the huge amount of detailed research reported by http://www.ipcc.ch/ — to the deceptions pushed by a few anti-AGW skeptics.
Farmie when you get as excited about the dems with dirt under their fingernails such as William Jefferson and Diane Feinstein I will get excited about these very partisan hearings. I have said this before.
Also I reiterate that the Dems have done ziltch in meaningful legislation since taking control. Their mantra is “look at me, look at me” I doing something good.
They send legislation to the hill that they know is so bogged down with pork that it will never fly and call it good. They hold hearing over a perfectly legal function because they disagree with the outcome and call it investigations. Now they are talking about taking the AG out from under the exec. branch. I say go for it. The repubs will get power back in the future and then just wait.
By the way when I have been proven wrong on an issue I always issue an apology. I have yet to hear that from those left wingnuts. It is always just change the subject.
The power is in your court now but that can and does change pretty regularly.
“Entertainers who try to make theirselves out to be experts at something they have absolutely credibility on.”
Rush Limbaugh’s ears are burning right now, no doubt. Or at least they would be if he weren’t hopped up on hillbilly heroin.
Cosmos I am still out on the Global Warming issue. I have found just as much evidence to support climate change done on a regular cycle as I have found to support global warming caused by man or able to be impacted by man. I am ecological friendly, I recycle, limit amount of water I use, always turn off lights when I am out of the room, refused to changed to lights with mercury in them because they are not environmentally friendly. I could go on but I think you get the picture.
This ‘interview’ was a joke. I heard it. I didn’t have to read the column to ‘hear’ it. It was on Drudge last night.
You can spin my statement any way you wish. I won’t get upset. I won’t call you names. I won’t defame your name or assign you a derogatory nickname. In short I come on here to have a discussion that is intellectually challenging and when it stops being that I go outside and enjoy the beautiful weather.
Condor thanks for reminding me. I forgot Rush was on.
Yeah cosmos, it must be the wingnut talking point of the day.
Dubya’s spouting off on the same subject, using almost the same language on his blog.
Big surprise.
Ksgrm,
Did you even *read* Farmgrrl’s 10:47 post? She laid out her dissatisfaction with what she sees as Democratic GOBN in western Kansas, and demands that Morrison investigate, not just whitewash.
Let’s hear it for “attack the poster, no matter what they say”
::eyeroll::
Whoops, 10:37 post, not 10:47
ksgrm - I have studied the Milankovitch cycles and that has led me even more firmly to believe that what we are seeing today is VERY different. I recommend the various ‘educational’ sites that I and cosmos have posted. These sometimes get a bit dry in reading but there is a lot there.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=657&tstamp=200704
Start from Dr. Master’s ‘photo blog’ I directly linked and then go up and click on education. There is a lot there.
There are some great pictures on the initial window I linked.
hee hee hee Tom! I’m used to it!
There goes Republican, discrediting the large number of scientists whose peer-reviewed work is reported by the IPCC.
Have you found any examples proving your claim that “cronyism” blocks anti-AGW theories from being scientifically accepted?http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/04/open_thread_21.html#comment-67309920
ksgrm,
Everytime an example of the collossal corruption of the Bush Administration comes up you want us to refrain commenting on it until everyone acknowledges that “everyone does it.”
Well, I don’t know anything about the situation ksfarmgrrl is describing, but my interpretation of her post was that some of the alledgedly corrupt figures are Democrats. I just went back and read it again and came away with the same understand.
So, if my reading comprehension is up to snuff, ksfarmgrrl is actually getting “excited about the dems with dirt under their fingernails.”
And every other thread where you’ve brought up Jefferson I’ve agreed that it stinks to high heaven and that he should be removed from his leadership position at the very least and, if convicted, forced to resign entirely. I’m not sure how many times you require liberals to agree with you on this point before we’re allowed to discuss Bush Administration corruption.
Jefferson should resign if he’s indicted, not just convicted. Our elected representatives need to be above suspicion. Otherwise, they bring dishonor on us all.
Oh, and guys, wasnt Denny Hastert the one who threw the biggest hissy fit when jefferson’s congressional office was searched?
Suppose he was worried about an “expanded investigation”? Or about setting a precident that might allow prosecutors to search HIS office?
heheheh. Just kidding. All the house and senate folks, from both parties, got their panties in a knot over that.
Including Hastert. But you’ll never hear germie admit that DENNY FREAKING HASTERT supported and defended jefferson.
Tom, I totally agree with you about jefferson. I have yet to hear ANYONE on this blog defend him.
And did we mention Tom Delay’s indictments? heheheheheheh
He waited until he was indicted, not just accused, to resign. But jefferson isnt allowed due process?
Pot meet kettle and all…
ksgrm,
Try to find scientific proof that human-added GHG’s do NOT increase the Greenhouse Effect. You WONT.
CO2 alone causes between 9 to 26% of the GH effect.
Try to find scientific proof of negative feedbacks that will offset human-caused warming. Again, you WONT.
These amplify warming,Less ice and snow = more heat absorbed.Thawing permafrost = more GHG’s releasedWarmer oceans = less CO2 absorbed.Warmer oceans = less phytoplankton = less CO2 absorbed (and less food)
And just a little advise for the kansas republicans, ala the wingnuts who want to advise dems…
If you want to win back Cedar Crest, you are just plain stupid of you dont go after the kansas water office and the corruption between ellis and russell counties.
It’s low hanging fruit, and it’s enough of a scandal to keep your hated judiciary busy for years. I am mystified as to why the repubs in ks dont go after the story and use it.
Unless, you think? The repubs might ALSO be in the pocket of big water, the ks farm bureau, ks livestock assn, et al?
Could that explain their reluctance to tackle the corruption surrounding water? They are just waiting for THEIR turn to do the very same thing?
How do you kill a snake? Cut off it’s head. Is the head of the snake here really ellis county? Why do the repubs give them a pass?
Cut off the corruption between governor leadership and hays, and you have rendered both snakes fangless. Some things I guess I will just never understand.
I guess the repubs are too busy with those pesky social issues, the evil act-ee-vist judges, and trying to strangle public education to give a happy buggered rat about water and corruption.
ksfg, I have long wondered about the silence on this issue from those in both parties. It may well be that both parties are in the pocket of the entities you list; at least, it is my perception that this is close to, if not, the truth.
Well Vaughn, water is obviously the third rail of kansas politics and the fact that NO ONE has the balls or ovaries to take on this issue makes it that much more ripe for corruption.
While voters are distracted by bright and shiney objects like domestic partnership registries and the on going efforts to strange public education, few are watching the rats feed on the cheese over at the water office.
And when no one is watching, I think it has been well proven that corruption blooms in the petrie dish of silence.
And it looks to me that the slime growing in this particular petrie dish is truely bipartisan.
Condor Feinstein and Jefferson are part of a current group of corrupt elected officials. Feinstein lined the pockets of her own family business with billions of tax payers dollars and she is still on the committee that gives out these no bid contracts.
Why should we only take into the reps alledged corruption and turn a blind eyes to the dems.
Huh?
Ben I will follow your link and do some more reading. Thanks
Has Feinstein been charged with anything? Under investigation? My understanding is that she voluntarily resigned the position that was giving republicans heartburn.
But germie wants her head, even if she hasnt been charged with anything besides the republican smear talking points. You know, the ones like demanding Don Betts resign for just standing next to harry reid….
Can you say “double standard”?
Oh, and did I mention, that the DOJ, USA’s ect. are and have been under control of the republicans?
And Feinstein’s alleged wrongdoing happened while the REPUBLICANS were in charge of both houses of congress? When they could have investigated her and charged her with ethics violations?
You think if Feinstein had done something illegal, the republican controlled judiciary and congress would have covered it up?
Woof.
If you believe that, I have farmland I wonder if you’d like to buy…
ksgrm,
“refused to changed to lights with mercury in them because they are not environmentally friendly.”
Assuming coal-fired power, CF lamps over a 5-year lifetime cause emissions of about 2.4 mg of mercury.Over the same time, incandescents would cause about 10 mg of mecury emissions, 4 times more.
Most of the mercury vapor in the CFL is absorbed by phosphor, glass, etc by time bulb wears out.
Info re cleanup if broken, disposal, collection sites,http://www.nema.org/lamprecycle/epafactsheet-cfl.pdf
Sheryl Crow just announced that we should all be allotted ONE SHEET of Toilet Paper per sitting…or per shitting..what ever fits.
god, you have got to love them dont you…
Bless their little hearts, they are always in the right place. Just pat her on the head if you see her and Laurie. Petulant little children.
I think now we can see why Lance rode of in the sunset…she seems a bit cranky….likely her chapped ass.
More on the NEWEST GSA scandal.
Senators Press for Answers on GSA ChiefBy Paul Kiel - April 23, 2007, 1:23 PM
Move over, Al Gonzales, there’s a new campaign for the resignation of a Bush appointee.
General Services Administration chief Lurita Doan shocked the world last month when she gave a performance at a House hearing that was enough to make even Gonzales cringe.
In January, Karl Rove’s deputy, Scott Jennings, arrived at the GSA to give a briefing on Republican political prospects. After the presentation, Doan reportedly asked aloud what the GSA could do with its considerable taxpayer-funded assets “to help our candidates.” When asked about the briefing at the hearing, Doan pleaded a fuzzy memory.
Ever since the briefing was revealed, Democrats have been vainly trying to get answers from the White House about this and other presentations.
So today, 25 senators wrote the White House, demanding answers. You can read the letter here. “The Executive Branch is not an extension of the Republican National Committee,” it reads, “nor of any political party. Those who treat it as such must be held accountable.”