Does subpoenaing Rice cross the line?

The House Committee on Oversight and Reform authorized a subpoena of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. It wants her to speak on the claims made by President Bush in his 2003 State of the Union speech about Iraq seeking uranium from Niger. "I do think that there is a difference between oversight and overreaching," a White House representative responded. Did the Democrats cross that line in subpoenaing Rice for information that has long been discredited?
Posted by Ross Stewart

39 Comments

  1. wordsmythe
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Nope. It’s called accountability.

  2. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Words

    NOPE, YOU ARE WRONG, HISTORICALLY AND LEGALLY!—-

    What would all of you think about the AG calling a members of Congress in for fishing expitition, witch hunt questions, perhaps trying to find out if they were working with our enemies? You would scream, of course.Remember when Congress through a hissy fit over a Congressmans office being searched because of real evidence of criminal activity?The seperation of powers is real.Every President, Democrat and Republican, has asserted “executive privilege.”Every President has taken an OATH to uphold the Constitution.President Bush and Secretary Rice have a DUTY to defend the Constitution.This is politics.Rice is correct.

  3. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    sorry, bad spelling above, tried to proof read and hit wrong button.

  4. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    This Article, by the way, is garbage:http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070426134503.4rzk54r9&show_article=1&catnum=3

    Wilson actually reported to the CIA that Iraq WAS trying to buy uranium.Also, British Intelligence STILL claims that Iraq was trying to buy uranium, and Bush specifically referred to that British Intelligence finding!

  5. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    AndRoss StewardHow do YOU discredit the claim that British Intelligence says Iraq was trying to buy Uranium?That claim, made by Bush, was and is true.Furthermore, the British Intelligence finding is also true.However, Bush only has to prove that British Intelligence made the finding, and they DID!

  6. brian
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Econ,My advice to you, read twice before you type.

    Nowhere has anyone on this blog item attempted to discredit the British. Stewart said ‘information that has long been discredited’. And indeed, that is accurate. The British information had been incorrect.

    So, the British did say Iraq tried to buy uranium. However we now know that was incorrect. The question remains whether the White House know it was incorrect when they reference the British data.

  7. Ben
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Let her testify, under oath, to the Congressional oversight committees. If she wants to take the fifth let her.

    Meanwhile I see that Goodling will be immunized and questioned. Also a Rove aide is going to be subpoenaed.

    The Bushies have become accustomed to operating without oversight – NO MORE!

  8. brian
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    ‘Wilson actually reported to the CIA that Iraq WAS trying to buy uranium’Econ, that is news to me. I would love to read more about it if you can provide the source.

  9. Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    The weaker Econ101’s position, the more he yells. How predictable.

    No one is above the law. Not even the members of this Administration.

  10. Erik
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Heh, everyone is accountable to law regardless of their job. If they feel the need to subpoena her. So be it.

    On a personal note, I think she has a questionable track record and she is and has been nothing but trouble.

  11. Mike
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    BREAKING NEWS: THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SPYING ON ANTI WAR GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070426/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/pentagon_terror_database

    BIG BROTHER AT IT AGAIN!

  12. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Mike, as I told you on another thread:John Kerry attended an anti Vietnam War meeting at which the assasination of elected officials was promoted by one of member of the group.Kerry was probably, at the time of this meeting, still a Reserve Naval Officer and had a duty to report such talk.Kerry did not turn in his fellow radical.However, we know about this because undercover cops, who were there, have told us about the meeting.The government infiltrates anti abortion and pro gun rights groups too.There are nuts in every political group and the feds have a duty to follow up on such things.

  13. Econ101
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    BrianI refer you to the Senate findings on the matter.The US Senate agrees that Wilsons ORAL report confirmed that Saddam wanted to “expand trade” with Niger.Niger’s only export is Uranium!

    “Wilson’s assertions — both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information — were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.

    The panel found that Wilson’s report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson’s assertions and even the government’s previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush’s January 2003 State of the Union address.

    Yesterday’s report said that whether Iraq sought to buy lightly enriched “yellowcake” uranium from Niger is one of the few bits of prewar intelligence that remains an open question.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39834-2004Jul9

  14. Mike
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    EconAs I told you on another thread. Does the GOP know what the Constitution is? Do right wingers want to live in a police state? When did we sacrifice all of our Constitutional rights? Send in undercover police, thats fine. But the Federal Government needs to be more respectful of the Constitution.

  15. Bob
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    In the picture accompanying the article, Condi Rice is showing how far away she is from bitch slapping George Bush and resigning her position.

    Tune in next week to see how much closer she is.

  16. snarky
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Iraq tried to buy. Iraq failed. Confirmed, including by Wilson.

    That’s different than Iraq DID buy. Ask any underage kid with a fake ID how that goes.

    Some folks still insist that the claim is Iraq DID buy from Niger.

    Rice previously testified about this to the Senate, under oath, at length.

    It’s all about trying to start a new circus with old material. Surely the Dems aren’t that close to running on empty?

  17. Ben
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    If everything Rice has been saying is the truth then why is she so fearful of going under oath?

  18. littlejohn
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    If everything you do is legal, why are you fearful about the government wiretapping your phone?Same principal

  19. Mike
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Because I have a Constitution right to privacy. If the Government has probable cause to tap my phone then they need to go before a judge and get a warrant. Who are they to just randomly search whomever they want without a warrant?

    It is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT!

    And we thought Communism was bad. That looks refreshing after the war against the Constitution that this administration has waged.

  20. littlejohn
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Mike– I agree. And I believe the Constitutional right to “executive priviledge’ has been recognized by SCOTUS.

  21. Bob
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    And how many Clinton advisors, etc, were required to testify under oath?

  22. littlejohn
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Don;t know. I do know that CLinton claimed executive priviledge for somebody in the Monica lewinsky matter, and it was rejected by Scotus.

  23. Ben
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Mike – agreed. lj – if I am subpoened again I will appear as required. (Or, in my case, fill out the interrogatories)

    There is a difference between being asked questions and being wiretapped.

  24. littlejohn
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    I think she has indicated she will consider answering the questions again in writing. And I didn’t know there was a hierarchy in Constitutional rights

  25. Ben
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    The ‘hierarchy’ involves due process of law.

  26. littlejohn
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    And communism under who? Stalin? Lenin? How many millions were killed? Putin? Where nearly all the media is state controlled? We can have issues and disagreements without allthe hyperbole, can’t we?

  27. littlejohn
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    And executive priviledge as defined by SCOTUS

  28. littlejohn
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Would like to continue, but life awaits. Gone till Monday most likely. Everyone have a good weekend!

  29. Posted April 26, 2007 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    This is just a political fishing expedition. It is designed to satisfy the left-ist activists who were so instrumental in getting Congress changed.

    I doubt there is any merit to the exercise. All this does is keep Congress from working on today’s problems. Which may not be such a bad thing.

  30. Bob
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    The Ken Starr investigations ($75 million) was a what? Fishing?

  31. brian
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    What was Clinton impeached for? Lying and obstruction of justice

    Ken Starr spent how much money at the behest of Congressional Republicans to dig that up?

    How much could be dug up on the Bush administration with a $75M investigation?

    Hmmmmm

  32. Posted April 26, 2007 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    I think Bush should order subpoenas for the Democratic Congress on Campaign Contributions violations and misrepresentation of facts under the law. I’m sure Judge Gonzales would enjoy assigning FBI agents to the task. If it’s a pissing contest the Democrats want, give them one.

  33. political_mom
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    If we’re looking for absolute proof that Bush is lying and has been lying, then this is the way to do it. And it’ll set us up for impeachment.

    Which is what needs to happen.

  34. Kev
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    “The seperation of powers is real.Every President, Democrat and Republican, has asserted “executive privilege.”

    There is nobody in this country that is above the law including the village idiot and his minions. If Rice does not show up, the Capital Police should be dispatched to drag her sorry ass to the hearing and make her testify.

  35. steve
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Lying us into a war, is crossing the line. The liars should be taken to task. Along with those that covered their butts for them.

  36. steve
    Posted April 26, 2007 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Lying us into a war, is crossing the line. The liars should be taken to task. Along with those that covered their butts for them.

  37. Posted April 26, 2007 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    http://tellusthemission.org/

    See the new video celebrating the fourth anniversary of Commander Cod-piece’s “Mission Accomplished” speech.

  38. Ben
    Posted April 27, 2007 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Apparently Tenet is spilling a lot of beans with HIS new book. He will be in 60 Minutes this weekend. Should be fun!

    Maybe Colin Powell will grow some stones and come clean.

  39. Econ101
    Posted April 28, 2007 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    The Constitution IS the law.

    Condi and Bush are enforcing the law.

    Congress can’t ever be sure that every subpoena it issues is valid.

    No prosecutor has such power.

    Neither does Congress.