Political solution requires more troops?

Having to take so many statements with a grain of salt from powerful men and women these days, I have grown parched. So when General David Petraeus, the new commanding officer in Iraq, said, “There is no military solution to a problem like that in Iraq, to the insurgency of Iraq,” then requested 2,200 more troops — on top of the 21,500 for the surge efforts — I craved a glass of water.
Then again, I’m happy that he has said that you can’t solve this situation with more ammo (even while requesting more ammo). Political talks need to occur to truly improve the situation in Iraq.
Posted by Ross Stewart

114 Comments

  1. writerdog
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    Both are sadly true, to use only military action means it is a dictatorship and not a democraticy.But with everyday that passes more of the average citizens of Iraq lean towards the “dark side”.But a simple fact can not be overlooked, there is still enough armament, weaponry and ammunition that we knew was there before the invasion. That is simply missing and unaccounted for to outfit a large enough army to overcome our current troop levels there now.

  2. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    Gee, perhaps somebody should have thought about this BEFORE the invasion?

  3. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Man, you people at the Eagle never read the articles you reference? Or do you just always want to do the Liberal thing and put issues you are against in a bad light?

    This from the article:”Petraeus, in his first news conference since assuming command, on Thursday defended the increase in manpower, saying the need for additional forces in Iraq was “always anticipated” and was the natural result of the decision to send in the 21,500 combat troops.”

    Get it? “…additional forces in Iraq was “always anticipated”"

    Heck, I watched C-Span when Petraeus testified before Congress and the Democratic and Republican Senators ALL STATED THAT GENERAL PETRAEUS ONLY NEEDED TO ASK IF HE NEEDED ANYTHING IN IRAQ AND SEVERAL STATED AND THAT MEANS ANYTHING TO GET THE JOB DONE.”

  4. GSheridan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Ross, get yourself a BIG glass of water and then sit down.

    The surge, despite all the liberal crybaby tactics, is begining to work.

    Libs hate that.

    Come to think of it – libs hate just about everything about freedom, integrity, and strength.

    http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=157149

  5. .morg
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    From gsheris article :

    To predict success would be extremely rash, however. The bloodshed still continues apace. A suicide bomber, presumably a Sunni, killed at least 40 people at Baghdad’s Mustansiriya University, a stronghold of Shia factions, on February 25th. Iraqis say that insurgent snipers are still active, often firing from mosques before disappearing into back alleys. The newly beefed-up troop presence may reduce some forms of violence, such as multi-car Shia raids on Sunni districts, but is less likely to deter Sunni suicide bombers.

  6. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    So Morg,

    Do you hope for failure in Iraq? Are you hoping that hundreds of Iraqi’s die along with dozens of American Military men and women?

    Sure sounds like you are hoping for more deaths to prove a political point.

    How convenient for you and tragic for the victims.

  7. GSheridan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    morg – I didn’t say it was successful….yet, only that it was begining to work. The death stats back that up.

    I just wonder why we don’t hear more about those stats?

  8. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    GS – I hope it works. However, if we cannot get a government in place that the Iraqi population considers legitimate then it will ultimately fail.

    We can, through force of overwhelming arms, keep the lid on for a while. However, we cannot do so indefinitely. History has shown that occupiers often fall to the ‘death by a thousand cuts.” Just ask the Soviets about Afghanistan.

  9. J R
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Oh yeah the surge is working.

    It’s working like a cop standing on the front porch is working to stop Daddy beating up Mommy. Of course, sooner or later, the cop has to leave.

    Doesn’t he?

  10. Posted March 10, 2007 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    GSheridan,

    “The surge, despite all the liberal crybaby tactics, is begining to work.Libs hate that.”

    Are you so STUPID that you cannot understand HOW it will “work”?

    A strong door-to-door U.S. military presence will only temporarily force the insurgents underground… and they will note who helps the U.S.

    ‘Mahdi Army gains strength through unwitting aid of U.S.’http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/16600612.htm” “All the Shiites have to do is tell everyone to lay low, wait for the Americans to leave, then when they leave you have a target list and within a day they’ll kill every Sunni leader in the country. It’ll be called the `Day of Death’ or something like that,” said 1st Lt. Alain Etienne, 34, of Brooklyn, N.Y. “They say, `Wait, and we will be victorious.’ That’s what they preach. And it will be their victory.” ”

    A political, not military, solution is needed.

  11. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Hey Cosmos,

    Why don’t you volunteer for this Political solution since you have it all figured out.

    I’m waiting on your solution as I’m still waiting on the Democratic Party’s solution which has been nothing but cut (funding and support) and run.

  12. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Actually cosmos – there might be a role for the military right now. IF they can maintain quiet for a while maybe – JUST MAYBE – tempers will cool enough to allow for a political settlement. All we can do now is hope maliki has the where-with-all to do his part.

    As some here know I am an advocate for peace-keepers (not US) in Palestine. That is a necessary BUT NOT SUFFICIENT condision for nation-building. In some ways the mess Bush deliberately has made in Iraq needs the same thing.

  13. Posted March 10, 2007 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    republikhan,

    Iraq needs to figure out the political solution themselves. It IS their country.

    Ben,

    I partly agree with your “maintain quiet for a while”, but there are complications (read my link upthread).

  14. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    Correct, it’s their country because the US helped them along with that.

    And we don’t need to stop helping them because their are some weak sisters in US politics.

  15. J R
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    The problem is “a while” in this case has to redress a thousand years of history.

    So “a while” would probably be an open ended comittment.

  16. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    J R,

    It’s a good thing our forefathers in the beginnings of U.S. history had taken into account “a while” in conceptualizing what it takes to make a great Democracy established into a workable Republic.

  17. Posted March 10, 2007 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    republikhan,

    “And we don’t need to stop helping them because their are some weak sisters in US politics.”

    You want to “help them” by helping al-Sadr, and his militia?

    ‘Mahdi Army gains strength through unwitting aid of U.S.’http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/16600612.htm

    You think that a ‘Day of Death’ is the best possible solution? You want the Shiites to have 100% control?

    Not to mention al-Quaeda is getting stronger there the longer the U.S. stays there.

  18. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    Obviously, your pessimism toward everything turning out poorly is clouding your judgment.

    Or should I infer that your wish for everything to turn out poorly is your hope.

    We help those in Iraq who have established a constitution and set up a new government.

    We don’t back peddle on our commitment and run away when tough times occur. Being committed to seeing your promises through to the end is how you make lasting relationships and strong Democracies.

  19. Posted March 10, 2007 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, JM-Eier-Khan, maybe they’ll have the kind of “democracy” that we have, the kind where 5 people on the Supreme Court outweigh the 600,000 more people who voted for Gore.

    Worst. President. Ever.?

    No.

    Worst. President. Possible.!

  20. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Capn Communist writes”…the kind where 5 people on the Supreme Court outweigh the 600,000 more people who voted for Gore.”

    Gore lost by the provisions of the Electoral College process. That is the law.

    Deal with it crybaby.

    CapnAmerica,

    WE Blog’s.WORST.POSTER.EVER.

  21. Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    republikhan,

    “Obviously, your pessimism toward everything turning out poorly is clouding your judgment.”

    It’s not “pessimism”, it’s what people over there say is ACTUALLY happening:1st Lt. Dan Quinn, 1st Lt. Alain Etienne, Capt. Aaron Kaufman, Lt. Col. Eric Schacht, U.S. Army tactical human-intelligence soldier “Brady”, Abbas al Dulaimi, and others.

    But I guess republikhan prefers optimistic fantasies over the facts.

  22. Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    You haven’t offered up any facts, just some names of some low ranking officers and some guy named Brady.

    No cigar.

  23. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Khan, are you attracted to Ann Coulter? Are you hoping to win her favor by parroting her lines?

    Just curious because Coulter thinks things are going “just swimmingly” in Iraq. Yeah, no problems there. Everything is going right according to plan. We should be able to declare victory any minute now.

  24. Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Yep, things are going just great…

    ‘Mahdi Army gains strength through unwitting aid of U.S.’http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/16600612.htm

  25. Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Typical Heevie,

    Insults – no substance.

  26. J R
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    “It’s a good thing our forefathers in the beginnings of U.S. history had taken into account “a while” in conceptualizing what it takes to make a great Democracy established into a workable Republic”

    OH ok

    SO? You are for the occupation of Iraq by US troops for the next 231 years at a minimum?

    So are bush, Cheney, Halliburton, CACI, big oil, and Blackwater. Outside of your group I don’t think perpetual occupation of Iraq is a win for you.

    SELL IT BABY!

    Nobody’s buying.

  27. Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    republikhan,

    The “substance” is what “some low ranking officers and some guy named Brady” say in the link I provided.

    RepubliKhan at throwup@ralph.com andRepublikhan at TypeKey?

  28. Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    J R,

    Your illogical conclusions are simply amazing to watch and would be good to offer in a logic class of what not to do in an argument or bet.

    Thanks again for yet another conspiracy driven post of slippery slope drivel.

    You’re now up to perpetual occupation now is it.

    You forgot to throw in General Electric who makes Coal-Fired Plants as a conspirator in Iraq. Maybe you would like to add employees of Disney World, especially those working in fantasy land.

  29. Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see that Cosmos, I just see something like:

    http://www.typepad.com/t/comments?__mode=red&id=62844742

  30. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Nobody here, and most of all me, knows whether or not roughly 25,000 more troops will lead to a political solution…or even whether it should. I do think, however, that we’re back to running the war from from plush leather wingback chairs in Washington. Korea and Viet Nam all over again. Patraeus didn’t get where he is being an idiot. Give him what he says he needs, damnit. IF he fails, it’s his ass on the firing line.

  31. Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    republikhan,

    “some low ranking officers and some guy named Brady” and others are at this link,

    ‘Mahdi Army gains strength through unwitting aid of U.S.’http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/16600612.htm

  32. Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Interesting article Cosmos…

    But it is an article that spoils for failure.

    Stuff happens when you least expect it.

  33. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    I would tend to agree with you, RM, but I think that we tried this approach last summer with the Operation Together Forward program. That one did not work because the Iraqi’s backed down. I do not see that anything is much different right now and that is my concern.

    My issue is that it is going to be OUR servicemen and women dying. The Surge is going to produce temporary results, but nothing lasting.

    The insurgents are just going to melt into the woodwork until we move through, then it will be business as usual.

    I agree that we should give Patraeus what he asks for, but we need to remember that this Surge was NOT his plan. That distinction belongs to George W Bush.

    Unfortunately, it will not be his ass on the line.

  34. Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    republikhan,

    “Stuff happens when you least expect it.”

    Actually, what is happening in Iraq now (civil war, terrorism, etc) is exactly what was EXPECTED before the U.S. invaded in 2003.

    Pentagon war games run in 1999 even predicted it, even with a larger # of occupying troops.

    Only the stupid/clueless believed “flowers” would be tossed, a working government would be setup, etc..

  35. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    “Pentagon war games run in 1999 even predicted it, even with a larger # of occupying troops.”

    But they did hang Saddam Hussein.

  36. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Only the stupid/clueless believed “flowers” would be tossed, a working government would be setup, etc..Posted by: cosmos | March 10, 2007 at 02:18 PM

    Thanks for the characterization, perhaps it gives a clue of your motives towards failure at any cost.

  37. Slobski
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Benni, Jr, Frmpig and writerfag should all shut their traps lest they go sit in their own swine. Nuff said.

  38. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    “it gives a clue of your motives towards failure at any cost.”

    No; it actually gives clues on why there is no surprise at what is happening today. This was well predicted; we KNEW the thing would degenerate into chaos.

  39. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    What about me, Slob? Am I allowed to speak?

  40. slobski
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Throw cosdork in the shitpile also. DumbaZZ

  41. Slobski
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Bennie you dumbazz, can’t you read? Oh I forgot your a product of public lack of education. How does your spinchter look punk? You seem to use that for your mouth. Typical commie you are.

  42. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Slobski, are you related to RepubliKhan?

  43. J R
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Hey slob?

    Writerdog is a Republican. HE just has infinitely more sense than you bushbots.

    Get back in the f***ing peaut gallery and shut your pie hole. Adults are talking here.

  44. Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Scenarios ran by the Pentagon often turn out different once actual conditions are experienced.

    For years the Pentagon had never tested their new super weapons, the stealth fighters/bombers, guided bombs, integration of systems like AWACs, JStar and etc. When the first Gulf war occurred, they found out their planning paid off well.

    When the second Gulf War started they were very experienced in utilizing the same weapons and proved highly successful.

    It is highly doubtful that they practiced counter-insurgency training and close quarter fighting in 1999 with great enthusiasm and support.

    The concentration was on an invasion force. The U.S. is still learning and re-learning how to handle the situation in Iraq.

    Using the 1999 report is based on scenarios entirely different from what troops are exposed to now.

    A bad premise to start a debate on this subject material.

    A good premise to start a debate on how to use material that does not apply to a specified situation.

  45. Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    republikhan,

    “it gives a clue of your motives towards failure at any cost.”

    You’re claiming that the Pentagon, and almost all M-E experts had motives towards failure at any cost”?

    A slow Junior-High school student could predict today’s chaos would result — 3 religious factions with a violent history, neighbor nations that’d “assist”, dislike of the occupying U.S. forces, etc.

  46. Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    You sure to put yourself in position for speaking for others not present on this Blog.

    Do you not have any original thoughts or must you invoke some hyperlink – or a weird analogy of Junior High School students to catalog your method of your non sequitur style of logic.

  47. RealTruth
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    I SEE WE HAVE A REPUKE NAZI SLOB HERE! GO SUCK YOURSELF SLOBSKI – BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO USE A STICK SINCE YOU DON’T HAVE A DICK!

  48. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if any of you are watching the CNN program “Ambush at the River of Secrets” but it is a heartbreaker. It is about personal stories of four of our young men that were lost in Iraq.

    George W Bush should be forced to watch this program every night until all of our young men and women are home safe.

    If you are not pissed off, seriously pissed off, when EVER we lose just one of ours in Iraq, then you are without a soul.

  49. HardTruth
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    CRETINS LIKE SLOBSKI REVEL IN THE DEATHS OF OUR SOLDIRES – GIVES HIM A REASON TO USE THE VILE LANGUAGE HE LOVES.

  50. Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    republikhan,

    Are you so slow that I have to explain the obvious? I agreed with the M-E experts in 2002 who predicted the invasion would result in chaos.

    Also,’Post-Saddam Iraq: The War Game”Desert Crossing” 1999 Assumed 400,000 Troops and Still a Mess’http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/index.htm“The report forewarned that regime change may cause regional instability by opening the doors to “rival forces bidding for power” which, in turn, could cause societal “fragmentation along religious and/or ethnic lines” and antagonize “aggressive neighbors.”

    Further, the report illuminated worries that secure borders and a restoration of civil order may not be enough to stabilize Iraq if the replacement government were perceived as weak, subservient to outside powers, or out of touch with other regional governments.”

  51. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Goddamn it, what the f*ck are these bastards doing? Enough is a goddamn enough. Bring them all home now and F*CK Iraq. Screw them, let the Shi’ites and the Sunnis and the Kurds and al Qaeda and Syria and Iran have the goddamned place. It is a f*cking wasteland anyway.

    Let them have it.

    F*CK the Iraqi’s and F*CK Bush.

    Headline MSNBC: Struggle to find fresh troops for Iraq buildup

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17550827/

    News Flash: American service men and women come FIRST!!!!!

  52. Slob
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    I find the liberal comments hateful as always. Its fun to poke at your little tiny brains and mess with you. Wanna best me lefty fags? I didn’t think so. Bring up something fresh instead of your supposed talkhead crap of hating our President. Come on punks, give me something new. I enjoyed once again my tax cut. I spent it on a new boat and at Wal Mart and at the movie theatre and at the grocery store and at the lumber yard. Too bad you little twits that don’t pay taxes are the loudest to bitch about a tax cut. Whats the matta little punks?????????? Not gonna get ya welfare check this month!

  53. Slob
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Clark, piss off you little ingrate without a spine.

  54. Slob
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    CRETINS LIKE SLOBSKI REVEL IN THE DEATHS OF OUR SOLDIRES – GIVES HIM A REASON TO USE THE VILE LANGUAGE HE LOVES.

    Posted by: HardTruth | March 10, 2007 at 03:07 PM

    What a rbrl this dork is. Tell me what a “SOLDIRES” is you asswipe.

  55. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Hey, Slob, instead of spending all that money on a boat and at Wal Mart, you should have invested in a serious stay with a mental health professional. It is obviosu that you have some serious aggression issues to deal with.

    But since you’re (notice that I used the word correctly) talking about tax cuts, give us your plan for paying off the NINE TRILLION dollar National Debt.

    By the way, with the Bush tax cuts, the Federal Budget at the most optomistic will still be in the red until at least 2012.

    So, Slob, how are those bills going to be paid?

  56. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    “Clark, piss off you little ingrate without a spine.”

    I am a large ingrate at 5′10″ and 195 pounds.

    And my spine is just fine, but thank you for asking.

  57. Slob
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Goodnight you God Hating fag loving liberals. You won’t get my tax money you leaches. Leach off everyone and whine when you don’t get your check bitches.

  58. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Leaving already, Slob? Damn I was just beginning to enjoy your company.

  59. Slob
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Clark, your a bigger turd than I thought. Oink Oink fatAzz. Its fun to pick on high school dropouts like you porky.

  60. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    You are a damned funny man, Slob!!!

    This is just an act of yours right? A little Stephen Colbert routine?

    For a moment, I thought you were ACTUALLY serious!

  61. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Slob: There’s an old joke with the punchline being, “…if the Foo shits, wear it!” You have yet to contribute a single positive comment here, so your demise will not be noticed. Good night and God bless. It is said that God protects fools, drunks, and small children. You seem to qualify for two out of three. Not bad!

  62. Slob
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Wow Clarkturd, i thought you knew Econ 101. The debt doesn’t matter as long as you pay your bills. Problem is people like you live in Plainview and stiff the creditors. Seriously, the national debt is not a problem. Its less than 6% of the GDP. ASo quit your whining you dumazz liberl. Actually quit bitching about the US, your a talking dork and you bore me. I love to mess with dorks like you. SLOB

  63. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Christ, that WAS funny, Slob! Man, cut it out. I am just laughing my ass off here! Wooooo! You are funny!!!

    But you might want to work on your math there, Slob One.

    In 2005, the Gross Domestic Product was $12.49 Trillion. The debt is $9 Trillion.

    Even Republican math does not make that 6%.

  64. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Ho rm – good point.

    Hey, you should post yout clock/ceiling fan joke!

  65. Slob
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Wow rm, did you invent that saying? Can’t find it in the bible dammit. You really are a sophisticated peon. I’m sorry you are leaching off me and the rest of the tax payers in this country. Can you try to find a job real quick please. Your whining about how life has let you down is getting so old. Give me your address so I can send you a crying towel. sob sob sob sob.

    I’m not getting benefits owed me because I refuse to get a job. Grow up azzwipe

  66. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Hey, RM, how did dinner turn out? If it was good, please send the recipe to me. If it was not good, well, keep it! (wink!)

    The e-mail addy is live, though I will need to send you my REAL one.

    Thanks, friend!!!

  67. Slob
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    yee hawwwwwwwwwww. Its funny watching the libs in here posing the GDP and the debt. What a joke you fags are. Try using rel numbers you dickhead Clok the dork. I’m *laffing* all the way to the bank with that one.

    oink oink you fat poky piggies.

  68. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    If anyone has the slightest f**king idea what Slob is talking about, please explain it to me.

    I’m seriously wondering if he’s Paul Rossell in drag? BTW, Slob, my billing rate is $350/hr. And I’m quite selective. Think you could pass the entrance exam? I doubt it, but it would only cost you $700 to find out. Wanna’ play?

    Dinner, WSC, was postponed due to a family emergency — now handled. It’s being cooked as we speak — and if it works, the recipe is yours. My pleasure.

  69. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Read it then apologize, Slob One.

    https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/us.html

  70. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Damn, I feel like I’m twenty years old. That’s the last time I can remember that I was accused of being a liberal.

  71. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Guilt by association, RM! You have been hanging with Ben and me for too long!

  72. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    LOL, fer’ sure!!!!

  73. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    RM IS A LIBERAL!!!!!!!

    (oh oh – can you sue me for that?)

  74. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Big trouble, Ben, Should have been ?????????? at the end instead of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Hahahahahahah!

  75. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    And you’re a lawyer too … I think I’m in a heap of trouble here. Think VT will defend me?

    ;^)

  76. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Nope, Ben …. no easy out. We pay each other $1/year to avoid conflict of interest! :).

  77. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Anybody else noticed that Slob has vanished since I suggested me might be Rossell in drag? Hmmmmmmm.

  78. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    HAHAHA!!!!!

  79. rm6046
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Whoops! “he might be…”

  80. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Yeah. I am waiting to see how $9 trillion is 6% of $12.49 trillion.

    Hell, that isn’t even fuzzy math.

  81. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    WSC – the loser probably doesn’t know the difference between the DEFICIT and the DEBT!

  82. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    I am soooo old, Ben, that I can remember that the debt and the deficit were major campaign issues in 1980. I was very concerned then, so you can imagine my level of consternation 27 years later.

    I just do not see how we can continue with this ocean of red ink, particularly since both China and Japan are sitting on substantial cash reserves.

    The real kick in the ass is the total debt when you throw in the obligations for SS and Medi…..

    That is the scary part. That total runs in the range of $48 trillion when you include the debt.

    That would be almost FOUR times the GDP.

    If that doesn’t put a hitch in your giddy’up, I don’t know what would.

  83. Posted March 10, 2007 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    I remember 1980 Campaign issues as Jimmy Carter’s impotence in handling the Iran hostage situation. The double digit interest rates on homes that soared into the lower 20s. The vicious cuts into the military budge t where ships were docked and fighter planes couldn’t fly.

  84. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    I guess that means your okay with the National Debt approaching the levels of the GDP and the total indebtedness being near FOUR times the GDP?

    What the Hell, it’s just money, right?

  85. Ben Huie
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    “The double digit interest rates on homes that soared into the lower 20s”

    Then why did I buy two homes during that period and never pay more than 10%? But had to pay more later (1983) under Reagan.

  86. J M Walker
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Ben,You only THINK you paid more under Reagan. Shoot, you know that under the repukes, the nation has never been in debt, suffered inflation, had health care issues, or been to war. I mean, just ask Republikant: life is always glorious under repuke leadership. (you really do have to humor these guys; they do weird things if you don’t. Like invade countries.)

  87. steve
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Looks like the number of extra troops is now 8000, probably going to be a lot of extended tours.

  88. Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    I don’t Mr. Ben Huie, perhaps you are mistaken about when you bought your home.

    This is from Time Magazine/CNN:

    “As Jimmy Carter stepped before the television cameras in the East Room of the White House last Friday, his task was not just to proclaim another new anti-inflation program but to calm a national alarm that had begun to border on panic. Inflation and interest rates, both topping 18%, are so far beyond anything that Americans have experienced in peacetime—and so far beyond anything that U.S. financial markets are set up to handle—as to inspire a contagion of fear. Usually confident businessmen and bankers have begun talking of Latin American-style hyperinflation, financial collapse, major bankruptcies, a drastic drop in the American standard of living.”

    I’ll never forget Reagan’s Campaign Speech where he said, “are you better off than four years ago.”

    Carter received something like 49 electoral votes in Presidential race against Reagan.

  89. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    … and Reagan PROMISED to balance the budget.

    How did that work out?

    Eight years with Reagan in office and four more with Bush I – how many balanced budgets?

    Zero. Not even close.

  90. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    … and Khan, I bought a home in North Carolina in 1982. I paid twelve percent interest.

    I bought a home in Detroit in 1978. I paid less than ten percent.

  91. Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Remember how Republikhan PROMISED that he NEVER posted using any other nic?

    Coincidence . . . just coincidence, I’m sure.

    CapnAmerica,

    WE Blog’s.WORST.POSTER.EVER.

    Posted by: RepubliKhan | March 10, 2007 at 12:54 PM

    CapnAmerica = Worst.Poster.Ever

    Posted by: Original_Steve | December 19, 2006 at 11:19 PM

  92. Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Not only is the wording the same but so is the INCORRECT spacing between the words.

    What are the odds?

  93. Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Conventional loans in March 1980 were 16.62 percent per annum according to the Federal Reserve Archival System for Economic Research (FRASER)

    James Earl Carter, Jr., served as President from 1977 to 1981.

    I distinctly remember “wiping my brow” as I had gotten my interest rate at 6.5 percent years earlier.

  94. Posted March 10, 2007 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Oh that’s good Capn Communist,

    Now I’m someone named Original_Steve.

    The bounds of your psychopathic paranoia, never cease to amaze me.

  95. Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Capn Communist.

    Sounds a lot like this, doesn’t it:

    . . . Capniska Amerikanski spewing forth more of his socialistic vomitary.

    Posted by: JM | January 21, 2007 at 03:57 PM

    CapnVomit,

    But thanks for trying Commrade Amerikanski.

    Posted by: JM | January 21, 2007 at 04:33 PM

  96. CapnAmerica
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Khan’s ability to delude himself that reasonably intelligent people can’t see through his despiciable lies never fails to AMUSE me . . .

  97. Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Oh yeah Capn Communist…

    Amerikanski almost rhymes with it as well!

    (rolls eyes)

  98. Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Heh, I’m not posting to convince you, JM-Eier-Khan-Original Steve.

    You know full well the sh*t you pull and lying about it is perfectly consistent.

    I’m posting so that other post-ers can see what kind of person you are.

  99. Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Oh, yeah, Uncle William too . . .

  100. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Capn Communist,

    No Sir. Your posting is showing what kind of person you are.

    That is, a paranoid nutcase who is obsessed in proving some sort of identity conspiracy.

    Just like you Libs, have to hang your hat on a conspiracy.

    I must say though, I haven’t met anyone so persistent in their attempt to make their public personna like a raving lunatic.

    Oh wait, WSClark is running neck and neck with you in that regard.

  101. Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    The latter would also mean thatFunny that, Khan.

    Because that sounds so much like what you . . . I mean, JM . . . said a while back:

    CapnAmerica is what I said he is; a lunatic who has a dangerous form of paranoid Schizophrenia and is in need of a immediate attention from a mental health professional.

    Posted by: JM | February 10, 2007 at 11:15 PM

  102. Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Keep denying that you ever posted under any other nic, you lying sh*t bag.

    The more you post, the more you prove yourself a liar.

  103. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Oh cool fruits Sherlock, that means a consensus is forming on your mental status.

    Perhaps others will join me in that assessment.

  104. Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    BTW, wordsmith, when one person lies, that not a “conspiracy.”

    That’s just one person repeatedly lying.

  105. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Then you shouldn’t lie Capn Communist.

  106. Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    “Perhaps others will join me in that assessment.”

    You betcha, dude.

    You and your other half dozen personas.

  107. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Khan, despite the facts that you are obviously not the brightest candle on the menorah, even you would have to admit that it is damned strange that you showed up here one day and IMMEDIATELY began attacking people.

    Futhermore, from almost your first post, you began attacking Capn’ and me, two of the more notorious liberals on this blog. It was obvious that you had been here before.

    Now the only question is what nic did you post under in your prior incarnations?

  108. J R
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    RepubliKhan is JM.

    That is the concensus of myself, capn, WS, CF, J M Walker, Steven Davis and probably a lot of other people who don’t bother to speak up.

  109. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    I was here before as Republican awhile back, early summer I think or early fall, don’t remember. I added the Khan later and I’ve been reading this blog for over a year, maybe a year and a half. The Blog was called something else when I first started reading it, it wasn’t WE Blog, don’t remember.

  110. WSClark
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    So how is Mississippi, Khan? Enjoying the life down on the river?

  111. Posted March 10, 2007 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    I have never posted under any name but this one.

    Posted by: RepubliKhan | March 09, 2007 at 10:36 PM

    I was here before as Republican awhile back, early summer I think or early fall, don’t remember.

    Posted by: RepubliKhan | March 10, 2007 at 09:30 PM

    Yup, it’s so hard to keep the lies straight, isn’t it, JM?

  112. RepubliKhan
    Posted March 10, 2007 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Yup, same name, different spelling.

    Okay Captain America I confess I amDave, Durdan, realSteve, JM, Eeer and whoever else you think I am.

    If you come up with any new ones, I’ll be those too.

  113. Posted March 11, 2007 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Any luck finding your previous posts as Republican?

    Nobody else can find them.

    Are you sure you didn’t mean JM?

    Or Right Angle?

    Or SD?

    Or Steve?

  114. writerdog
    Posted March 12, 2007 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    Damn, I feel like I’m twenty years old. That’s the last time I can remember that I was accused of being a liberal.Posted by: “mailto:bobmann@sctelcom.net” | “http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/03/political_solut.html“ \l “comment-62868628″

    Get use to it RM, if you actually use your brain and not just copy and paste Rush you might be called a “liberal“. You know compare to the examples of “being Conservative” and “being a Republican” that is presented here lately. Maybe it might be a badge of honor, it means that you are intelligent. Its just the Slob can not spell a word with that many letter to it! LoL