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Attorney General Morrison Green with Envy of DA Phill Kline?
At Kline’s Town Hall Meeting in Overland Park today:
Hostile Audience Member: “How are we affording the new salaries? The $65,000 … $90,000+ ? And is any of the funding coming out of the white collar crime economic fund?”
Kline: “Good questions. Paul Morrison’s chief-of-staff as Attorney General filed an open records request with us to get all of our salaries, which is fine, I don’t have any difficulty with that. And then those salaries were disbursed through the court house, I guess, trying to cause problems — I don’t know. We are under payroll from what was previous. We are spending less on payroll than my predecessor. So there’s not any need to pull funds from other areas of the budget.”
Kline: “They had focused on two employees, my chief deputy and my senior deputy, Steve Maxwell, trying to cause a stir politically about … what their salaries were. They make the very same amount as Paul’s chief deputies, who were in the positions …”
. . .
Audience Member: Can we confirm their wages and salaries?
Kline: Yeah. It’s public. In fact, the Kansas City Star asked me about it the other day, and I said ‘look’ .. we’ve got it, but Morrison’s already got it because he asked for it — you can call him… it’s been distributed around the court house. I don’t mind it being public … you have a right to know…
And your point is…….?
RM – back on the issue of casing the Oil Wells…..I skimmed back over some of the old threads that I’d missed before and found your comments on the depth of the well, itself, being an issue – translated into… a major expense.
While the depth is certainly a problem when more casing is needed, why would anyone need seal lower than the level of the aquifer in any case?
We wouldn’t have to case to the bottom of the well, just far enough to seal the pure water from draining down.
And if it’s an unfeasible measure – why has Nebraska been using it with success?
Ben,
I DO hope you will find time to watch this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638&q=The+Great+Global+Warming+swindle
Approximately 26,000 dead and disabled soldiers to date.
How does killing thousands upon thousands of INNOCENT Iraq and Afghan family members stop terrorism?
Iraq Vets Come Home Physically, Mentally Butcheredby Aaron Glantz
On New Year’s Eve, the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq passed 3,000. By Tuesday, the death toll had reached 3,004 – 31 more than died in the Sep. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
But the number of injured has far outstripped the dead, with the Veterans Administration reporting that more than 150,000 veterans of the Iraq war are receiving disability benefits.
Advances in military technology are keeping the death rate much lower than during the Vietnam War and World War Two, Dr. Col. Vito Imbascini, an urologist and state surgeon with the California Army National Guard, told IPS, but soldiers who survive attacks are often severely disabled for life.
“If you lost an arm or a leg in Vietnam, you were also tremendously injured in your chest and abdomen, which were not protected by the armor plates back then,” he said. “Now, your heart and chest and lungs and heart are protected by armor, leaving only your extremities exposed.”
Dr. Imbascini just returned from a four-month deployment to Germany, where he treated the worst of the U.S. war wounded. He said that an extremely high number of wounded soldiers are coming home with their arms or legs amputated. Imbascini said he amputated the genitals of one or two men every day.
http://www.antiwar.com/glantz/?articleid=10262
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How do you win a war on terrorism when no one knows who the terrorists are or who will be a terrorists? Does killing thousands upon thousands of INNOCENT Iraq and Afghan family members curtail terrorists or terrorism?
The site, antiwar.com isn’t biased by any means…..is it?
…rolleyes…
GS: You were the one arguing for casement to the “bottom of the hole”. Why the hell are you asking me? As I understand the Nebraska provisions, you are required to install a metal device, begins with an “s”, that restricts water depletion, but I can’t recall the name right now since regardless of what the clock says, it’s barely f**king dawn here. Exactly how it works is also somewhat a mystery also, but nevertheless, then you have one year to determine the economic feasibility of continued production, at which point, you either plug the hole, or remove the metal device and cement to the bottom.
None of the above, though, is truly the point. Don’t expect me to make your frivolous argument. If you are trying to make amends for your strip-mining heritage, use your own checkbook. We have more than enough governmental regulatory agencies using ours already.
WOW, Duane Schrag of the Salina Journal just NAILS IT today on the front page of the Journal. One of the very best explanations of why paying irrigators to stop overpumping is just nuts.
I dont know what kind of awards the Salina Journal is eligible for on this series of articles about the water crisis in Kansas.
But personally? I think this series has Pulitzer written all over it. It is a LONG overdue look at just how awful the current overpumping is, how long it could take this state to recover, and what grief ALL the possible solutions could bring.
Heheheheheheh. Of course, I love to see David Pope squirm when he has to answer for why HE over appropriated water rights for over 20 years. I notice joe harkins is absent, as befits the darth cheney of kansas politics.
And the legislature? And governor leadership? Crowson nailed it too. The fiddlers three do NOTHING while the crisis worsens.
Great read. I highly recommend it as an easily understood discussion of where where are with water.
And it aint knee deep in paradise!
http://www.saljournal.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=10532&format=html
RM – I’m not sure why you are so adverse to one of the most effective ways to restore our water reserves without penalizing food production and recreational enjoyment.
Granted, the time change made getting up a little earlier on our time clocks, but since I rise around 3am anyway, I guess I didn’t feel it.
Anyway, I was just perusing the old threads and found your comment that deep wells would not be feasible to case. Yes, I said to the ‘bottom’ and I meant that, but was thinking of the current depth of Central KS wells, for the most part. However, in my last post, I was addressing your specific concern about the depth of the oil wells in Western KS.
I’m not trying to make amends for anything, just putting out a solution that would benefit us all.
This is the time to do it – now with oil at a premium.
Obviously you have some personal stake in oil production. I don’t think the money needs to come from YOU to do this.
But at some point – it WILL have to be done, and the sooner, the better.
GS: I actually believe in your sincerity on this issue, but who the hell else’s pocket is it going to come out of, other than the people who are “gambling” huge amounts of money to find and produce oil and gas? My partner and best friend for over 15 years has said, from the beginning that, if we lived long enough, we (and everyone else like us — small independent oil & gas producers) won’t be in the oil & gas business anymore, we’ll be in the water business. It gets truer everydayand I’m not sure I want to live that long.
Al Gore’s important documentary “An Inconvenient Truth” premiers today on Showtime. It is highly recommended viewing.
I wonder how much energy will be expended to show Gore’s movie? How many TV sets will be turned on and how many microwaves fired up cooking popcorn?
GS – time limited so only watched part – will try t watch it all tonight. What I did see has all been debunked many times over.
Very well produced though.
My impressions of Fred Thomson interview on Fox Sunday, he did not announce that he intents to run on the GOP for President. But he still thinking about it, so here is my impressions.
Thomson seems straightforward, plain spoken and matter-a-fact in his positions. No smirking or attempt at coming across as being a know it all, final answer on a subject.
He comes across as informed and thoughtful on the subject, having given concentration to the answer. No shooting from the hip answers
His stances: Pro-life and thinks Roe V Wade should be overturned and it should be the decision of the States and their people. Gay marriage, again it is up to the States and the federal Government has no right to tell States that they can or can not have Gay marriage. But he also does not think civil union is a good idea either. He feels that Bush is on the right track with Iraq, that it was not done well in the beginning but it is important that we stay and make it right. Pro gun, agreed with the court in the D.C. V 2nd amendment.
My personal opinions: I am a Federalist and so his believe that States should be responsible in most cases is good. I like his frankness and what seems to be thinking, well informed answers, I disagree on Roe V Wade and civil union, he said that rights should be for everyone and not just a special interest groups. Yes but the fact remains that if as an adult you are entitles to the legal standing of marriage and you happen to decided to marry. It is not a special right simply because you happen to be in love and decide to marry someone of the same sex. It is trying to legislate morality and nothing more, the concept of it being between one man and one woman is strictly a religious issue not a civil issue. I am pro gun rights, also I believe we have to correct the mistakes that we allowed Bush to make in the world not just Iraq. Though the current course will not work, it is simple as that.
I have came along way since the days that the “R” beside a name of the candidate that I know little about was the deciding factor. So the question is could I vote for Thomson? At this point I am still not convinced that I would. Perhaps it was the impression that he is a thinker and straightforward is the biggest plus to me.
While I, too, disagree with his stand on Roe v. Wade, I would vote for Fred Thompson in a heartbeat. I don’t know if he can perfect a winning machine can you spell m-o-n-e-y?) in the relatively short time before the convention and election, and it might be a wasted vote — but I would rather waste it than vote for any of the other yahoos/crooks at forefront on both sides currently.
Rather chilling to see two moderate Republicans consider such an unknown quantity as Thompson for Chief Executive!
Hey I know almost nothing about the guy. But from the hip? He is a convincing ACTOR.His profession is making folks interested in characters and stories that are not real. GOOD candidate for politics. But not a wise choice. The American people are easy enough already to deceive. At least with Reagan you had a bad actor.
Here, here!
I’m afraid that Fred Thompson might be too little, too late.
I don’t like his connection with McCain, he might be positioning to be a vice presidential candidate if McCain gets the nod, but I don’t think he sees himself as second fiddle.
I don’t like any of the current republican presidential wannabes. I would support a run by Thompson.
Hank
Reagan a bad actor?! Come on J R, Bedtime for Bonzo was an American classic!
Having a chimp as a co-star was perfect training for working with a democratic congress!
Hank
Har de har har Hank
I’ve never been able to sit through a whole Ronald Reagan movie. And THAT was back when I voted for the guy. His performances in movies are painfully wooden.
Gosh, the internets (hehehehe) are awash today in postings about ethanol and water.
Here’s a good one about ethanol. Like usual, ks is going to charge headlong into contrarianism.
While others question ethanol and coal fired utility plants and water and greenhouse emissions, etc…
Kansas fully embraces, with the blessings of governor leadership and the legislature, the most destructive path for exploiting our natural resources for the benefit of the chosen few.
While the rest of the country gets greener, we’re still back in the 80’s cutting taxes. And whistling past the green revolution, nature based tourism, and the environmental grave yard that substitutes for holding our state assets in trust for the future.
End rant. heheheh. Back to ethanol.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070311/ap_on_sc/ethanol_q_a
Fred Dalton Thompson, a Southerner, was an assistant U.S. attorney, prior to becoming minority counsel to the Senate Committee investigating Watergate. In Kutler’s book, “Abuse of Power (The New Watergate Tapes)” conversations among Nixon and all of his Watergate cronies made evident they were scared to death of Fred, because he was smart and they did not have and could get “anything on him”. We went on to the Senate for 9 years, and chose not to seek re-election to a job that he could have had for as long as he wanted.
Not just an actor, an intelligent dedicated American who happens to be, among other things, a good actor.
Damn, that was supposed to be “could NOT get”.
Besides Al Gore’s documentary being on Showtime…
IPCC’s Working Group II (climate change Impacts, adaptation and vulnerability) report is coming out in early April — and the future does NOT look good.
‘New climate report: More bad news’http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4618797.html” “Changes in climate are now affecting physical and biological systems on every continent,” the report says, in marked contrast to a 2001 report by the same international group that said the effects of global warming were coming. But that report only mentioned scattered regional effects.
“Things are happening and happening faster than we expected,” said Patricia Romero Lankao of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., one of the many co-authors of the new report. ”
A long list of future problems are at the link.
As to the Reagan movies, etc., it’s no wonder that we don’t see infomercials touting “The Best of Death Valley Days”. The sleeping pill companies certainly bought up the rights years ago. :) Does Boraxo even still exist?
I’m going to be examining CapnAmerica’s revisionist history of how according to him:
Killing four little black girls in Church while they were at Sunday School just doesn’t get the reich-wing’s pulses fluttering like “spitting on soldiers.”Posted by: CapnAmerica | March 11, 2007 at 11:33 AM
I will show irrefutable proof of what party was charge when all these violations against the Black people occurred in the “South.”AM
I’ll start with Georgia first, since the Capn liked pointing out the incidents in that state first.
Subject: CapnAmerica’s Revisionist History Challenge:GEORGIA:
Let’s look at a gleaming example of a Georgia Governor of which came from an overwhelming Majority of Democratic Party control in the states history and during the Civil Rights Era.
Lester G. Maddox, Governor 1967-1971Upon the death of Martin Luther King, Jr., he denied the slain civil rights leader the honor oflying in state in the Georgia state capitol. He reportedly abhorred the idea of flying the state flag at half-staff “in honor of a Negro.”
He first prevented a trio of Negroes from entering his restaurant by holding a gun at the entrance, then later defied a court order by proclaiming toanother group of Negroes, “If you live 100 years, you’ll never get a piece of fried chicken here.”
note: The use of the word Negroes is not mine but the Wikipedia’s and other sources usage.
Democratic Leadership overwhelming controlled Georgia from 1900 to the 1990s and especially during the Civil Rights Era.
Revisionist History by CapnAmerica debunk Step 1.
Gosh. Who’da thunk it?
Halliburton is moving their world headquarters from Houston to Dubai.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×388538
Subject: CapnAmerica’s Revisionist History Challenge:MISSISSIPPI
Mississippi GovernorsAll Democratic from 1876 – 1992
Let’s look at a gleaming example of a Mississippi Governor of which came from an overwhelming Majority of Democratic Party control in the states history and during the Civil Rights Era.
MississippiPaul Burney Johnson Jr.during the investigation of the three missing civil rights workers, James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner in June 1964, Governor Johnson offered little or no help. He praised Neshoba County Sheriff Lawrence A. Rainey and deputy sheriff Cecil Price. He also dismissed fears that the trio had been murdered by stating, “Maybe they went to Cuba,” a reference to the Communist ties that were often used to try and discredit that movement.
Democratic Leadership overwhelming controlled Mississippi since the Civil War especially during the Civil Rights Era. Only during the last 15 years have Republicans managed to get a foothold in Mississippi, much to the betterment of the state.
Revisionist History by CapnAmerica debunk Step 2.
Subject: CapnAmerica’s Revisionist History Challenge:ARKANSAS
Arkansas Governors 1874-2007, All democrats except for three in later years.
Orval FaubusShow down with President Eisenhower Eisenhower then sent elements of the 101st Airborne Division to Arkansas to protect the black students and enforce the Federal court order. In retaliation, Faubus shut down Little Rock Schools for the next two years.
Democratic Leadership overwhelming controlled Arkansas since the Civil War especially during the Civil Rights Era.
Revisionist History by CapnAmerica debunk Step 3.
Subject: CapnAmerica’s Revisionist History Challenge:ALABAMA
Alabama Governors All Democrats 1870 to 1970.
Do I even need to bring up George C. Wallace?
Here’s Governor Wallace famous quote:
George C. Wallace famous line”In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever”How about the predessor of George Wallace,
John Patterson Democrat ran with the support of the KKK and was elected.
Democratic Leadership overwhelming controlled Alabama especially during the Civil Rights Era.
Revisionist History by CapnAmerica debunk Step 4.
Just a small example of how CapnAmerica portrays the Democratic Party by using lies and revisionist history.
The party in control for 100 years after the Civil War in all of the Southern States was the extremely racist Democratic Party. There is no doubt about this whatsoever.
Modern Democratic apologists and Historical Revisionists like CapnAmerica would have you believe that Democrats are the champions of Civil Rights and treated Blacks in all fairness during one of the worst times for Racial strife in our Country’s history.
The opposite is true.
The Democratic Party brutally slayed, kept down and generally spat on all people of color for the 100 years after the Civil War.
Why people of color depend on the Democratic Party to save them is beyond me.
Don’t they know they are a party of lying words and broken promises?
Sure, they’ll point to people like Nixon, a Republican, who with I agree with a scum bag.
But the party in charge for one hundred years in our country was by far in the majority Democratic.
How did that work out for the people of color in the United States?
RepuliKhan: Far be it from me to ever be drunk enough to agree with the Capn’s insanity, or defend him.
The problem with your “facts” is that wile they are true, the post Civil War Southern Democratic Part was the seregationalist conservative party, and the Republicans the “liberals” well into the 1980’s.
So, while your facts are true, your point is moot.
I take that back. I thought you were done, before your last post. I jumped the gun. That was was your point. I agree with you.
Before wasting time on the video GSheridan suggests (5:09 AM post), read these links…
http://climatedenial.org/2007/03/09/the-great-channel-four-swindle/“Most of the people on the programme are professional communicators who are more familiar with the chat show than the lab. Of course they give good interviews – it is what they do for a living.”
‘Channel 4 Now Ashamed of its Experts’http://www.desmogblog.com/channel-4-now-ashamed-of-its-experts“Even the Calgary Herald, the leading newspaper in the Canadian oil capital of Calgary, has said that Ball is “viewed as a paid promoter of the agenda of the oil and gas industry rather than as a practicing scientist.” ”
Climate scientist ‘duped to deny global warming’http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2031455,00.html“A Leading US climate scientist is considering legal action after he says he was duped into appearing in a Channel 4 documentary that claimed man-made global warming is a myth. Carl Wunsch, professor of physical oceanography at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said the film, The Great Global Warming Swindle, was ‘grossly distorted’ and ‘as close to pure propaganda as anything since World War Two’.”
The real science,’Swindled!’http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled/
Should read as:
Sure, they’ll point to people like Nixon, a Republican, who with I agree was a scum bag.
So, while your facts are true, your point is moot.
Posted by: rm6046 | March 11, 2007 at 12:38 PM
So you are an apologist for the Democratic Party’s racial tyranny for 100 years as well?
Oh hell no. I just know from living in the South, the Southern Democratic Party was far more conservative, inflexible to change on many matters, including, but not limited to, segregation, and corrupt as hell. Enough said…?
You could certainly include LBJ in that group of “deceased” wanted posters noted by you above. LBJ championed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because it was the politically expedient thing to do — not because he really believed in it. From the 20-20 hindsight of history, many things are revealed.
RepubliKhan” People who neither lived it nor have studied it intensely tend to equate the “parties” in terms of 2007, not in terms of the times as they were occurring. Aren’t we essentially saying the same things here?
RepubliKhan” People who neither lived it nor have studied it intensely tend to equate the “parties” in terms of 2007, not in terms of the times as they were occurring. Aren’t we essentially saying the same things here?Posted by: rm6046 | March 11, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Perhaps rm6046, but I’m setting the record straight. I don’t like revisionist history.
I was around when there were separate restrooms, water fountains and people of color denied access to facilities such as restaurants and universities and all those segregated schools.
I was very young then and didn’t understand much of what was going on and didn’t know how to fix it, but I knew it was wrong.
It boils me to no end when these so-called Liberal Democrats like CapnAmerica try to re-write history and blame Republican for events that occurred in the South and many other places.
The U.S. was dominated by the Democratic Party and they set the agendas and policy.
I want people to know the history of this Racist Democratic party and how they are doing the “We are all good guys” shuffle in modern times to disguise their history.
The Democratic Politician still talk out of the side of their mouths, talking a lot of half-truths, promising a lot and then end up doing nothing but getting rich off the backs of people of color and the poor. Especially the poor – the Democratic Party creates and created all these programs to “help” poor people.
What the Democratic Party has done is to encapsulate them, keeping them down and separate from the rest of society. The Democratic Party still practices segregation, they just segregate the poor now.
They haven’t changed, they use the same old tactics.
Interesting reading, Hank and RM. Since you are both semi-conservatives, would either of you consider Chuck Hagel as a Rep nominee in 2008?
Not that the right would accept (!) any help from the likes of me on the issue, but I do not see how anyone other than an opponent of the war is going to win in 2008.
I believe that Hillary’s stance on the war is going to be her downfall. Edwards has gotten ahead of the curve by denouncing his own vote, but I think that he is hurt by his connection to Kerry.
Rudy McRomney is going to struggle as the war drags on with more violence and casualties.
That leaves very few Republicans with an out on the war, leaving the door open for Hagel.
Your thoughts?
More factoids about the Democratic Party:
The chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act were Democratic Sens. Sam Ervin, of later Watergate fame, Albert Gore Sr. and Robert Byrd. Mr. Byrd, a former Klansman whom Democrats still call “the conscience of the Senate,” filibustered against the civil rights bill for 14 straight hours before the final vote.”
That’s right, Vice President Al Gore Jr., father was opposed to the Civil Rights Bill.
Facts about the Republicans during the Civil Rights Era:
It was a Republican federal judge who desegregated many public facilities in the South. Appointed by President Eisenhower in 1955, Judge Frank Johnson had overturned Montgomery, Alabama’s infamous “blacks in the back of the bus” law in his very first decision. During the 1960s, Judge Johnson continued to advance civil rights, despite opposition from George Wallace, Lester Maddox and other Democratic governors.”
Who started the Civil Rights Movement in the 1950s and 1960s?The Republicans.
“A lot of people claim that John F. Kennedy championed Civil Rights. He was actually doing a politically savvy move to drag people away from the Republican Party, the party of Lincoln, by hijacking the Civil Rights bill for political purposes.
The 1964 Civil Rights Bill picked up by Johnson after Kennedy’s death had its roots in the Civil Rights movement Bill passed during the Eisenhower Presidency (Congress the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 and Eisenhower signed those acts into law)”
So you see, the Democrats have revised history to their own benefit. Some of us actually know the real truth who championed Civil Rights and that is the brave Black Men and women who sacrificed it all to gain equality.
The Republicans were the first during the Civil War and later on during Eisenhower’s administration to make things happen.
The Democrats would have you believe otherwise by distorting facts and using revisionist history.
rm – good points about both Thompson and the old Dixiecratic Party. I grew up in the deep south with Wallace and Maddox. As for Thompson; he did have a good career as a prosecuter. In fact, I’m not really sure he is that good an ‘actor’; the role he portrays is in many ways simply what he was in ‘real life.’ Not a slam, just an observation.
WSC: I’ve already said I like Hagel. But, and I don’t know whether he is or not, but, to have a chance of winning, he, like Thompson, better be moving 24-7 right now. The Clinton money-machine is way ahead, as we speak.
Why did the Dixiecrats separate from the Democrats then?
“also called States’ Rights Democrat member of a right-wing Democratic splinter group in the 1948 U.S. presidential election organized by Southerners who objected to the civil rights program of the Democratic Party. It met at Birmingham, Ala., and on July 17, 1948, nominated Gov. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina for president and Gov. Fielding L. Wright of Mississippi for vice president. The Dixiecrats, who opposed federal regulations they considered to interfere with states’ rights, carried South Carolina, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama, to receive 39 electoral votes; their popular vote totalled over 1,000,000.”
Good point, Ben, he’s almost always a lawyer or a politico on the screen. Hadn’t thought about that, until you mentioned it. Hmmmmm.
But aren’t all “good” trial lawyers either actors or orators (if there’s a difference)in drag, anyway? And that is meant as a compliment of the first order.
Just my two cents owrth, RM, but I think Hillary may very well peak far too soon. She is not nearly as well liked as Bill and she has “the Vote” baggage around her neck.
But the point I wanted to address was the anti-war position, i.e., can a candidate win in 2008 that is pro-war?
I am projecting that the war will continue to go poorly – nothing has really changed – and the vast majority of Americans are going to be strongly opposed to it by the early Summer of ‘08.
At that point, I am thinking that ANYONE, Dem or Rep, is going to be out of the picture if they have not actively distanced themselves from Bush and the War on Iraq.
Anyone?
;^) Your “liberal” slant is showing! hehehe
BUT! What happens if BOTH nominees are perceived as at least partly “pro-war”?
PMom: So, we just ignore 1866 – 1948. What’s 80 years among friends, anyway? Four generations ?Whatever ?
The Dixiecrats were right wing democrats not Republicans. They spawned out of the Democratic Party not the Republican.
A lot of racist Democrats switch parties when they thought it would personally benefit them.
This does by no means eliminate the converts roots in the Racist Democratic Party that followed the Civil War and ruled with a cruel hand for the next 100 years.
IMHO, the candidate that will survive will be the one who can produce the message that Iraq is not “the” problem, just the major one. Our young men and women are fighting the war, the lives of the rest of us doesn’t revolve around it. We’re just worried that April 15th is looming on the horizon, that we’re paying $2.60 for gas, etc. Maybe I’m living in a fantasy world?
“BOTH nominees”
Given the general populous is against the war by a 70-30 range, I would think that it would be difficult to win the nomination being pro-war, even for a Republican. Given that, if the race came down to say Clinton-McCain, I would hold my nose and vote for Hillary.
I have posted here before that I am concerned that partisanship is tearing at the fabric of the country. Clinton is nothing if not polarizing. Gingrich is the most partisan political animal that we have seen in 100 years. Another defiantly devisive president like Bush is going to push us to the brink.
… and I am dead serious. A Gingrich presidency would mean the end of ANY possibility of civil political discourse.
That is the number one reason that I have already joined the Obama team.
WSC: I could vote for a black man without hesitation. I could vote for a woman, without hesitation. I could not vote for Billary with a f**king gun to my head. Just shoot me!
JMRepublikhan–
True enough, but that was then and this is now.
How many ELECTED African-Americans are there from the RepubliCON party?
Let me see, there’s . . . and there’s . . .
Yeah, that adds up to . . . uhm . . . carry one to the tens column . . . uh . . .
ZERO.
What a loser.
Racism is the province of uneducated southern white voters of the REPUBLICAN party.
That is why the south has reliably voted Republican since the 1960’s. Southern whites blame Democrats for the civil rights achievements of African Americans.
Racism grows in the soil of stupidity. There is nothing more stupid than for a working class person to vote Republican. Yet MOST middle and lower class white southerners vote Republican. Old grudges die hard and often conflict with the better interests of the hater. That’s why the south is red.
Well Clark, since you did ask!
I think that a good pro-war candidate could win walking away. The American people are sick of Iraq, but I believe they would support a plan that had a chance of winning vs. the democrat’s plan of opposing Bush just because he’s Bush.
There is not one country in this world that can stand against us for more than 20 minutes in a war if we don’t allow them to. to fiddle fart around and lose a war because we don’t have the will or leadership to win is a crime.
If you think we need to go to war, you go with a plan and a will to win. I don’t blame the democrats for their ‘cut-and-run’ strategy as much as I blame Bush for the lack of leadership.
I do believe that his ’surge’ has a chance of working, but I’m afraid it’s too little too late.
In the upcoming elections I believe the American people would support a candidate with a reasonable plan to win over a candidate with no plan other than to lose.
Hank
Or Newt. God damn, what a pair to draw to — Newt or Billary! (Shaking head and going to the bar).
“Our young men and women are fighting the war, the lives of the rest of us doesn’t revolve around it.”
Unfortunately, my friend, that is what some on the right would want us to believe.
According to Bush, the best way for us to support the troops is to go shopping.
Personally, I would like to see a War Tax – 1% on all purchases other than food and medicine.
The only sacrifice that American have made has been made by our young men and women in the Armed Services. There has never a tax cut during wartime in American history.
RM–
Yeah, I can’t vote for Hillary either.
Would this woman stand a chance if she weren’t married to a former president?
I don’t think so.
She’s everything that hurts the Democratic party–the emphasis on “competence” and not values.
There’s no point in being competent if you’re not competent about something that matters.
RM–
Yeah, I can’t vote for Hillary either.
Would this woman stand a chance if she weren’t married to a former president?
I don’t think so.
She’s everything that hurts the Democratic party–the emphasis on “competence” and not values.
There’s no point in being competent if you’re not competent about something that matters.
“Just shoot me!”
RM, if Newt or Hillary wins, I’ll by the bottle.
We’ll need it.
Hank: I had a plan before “Shock & Awe”! Three conventional cluster bombs, three cities, and “who the f**k would like to be next?” No takers. Mission accomplished.
Think I could get elected?
Global Warming – Good or Bad?
The enormous amount of science behind Global Warming is irrelevant and confusing to the average citizen. Current terminology has offered the term Climate Change instead of Global Warming and perhaps it is more appropriate.
The bottom line is energy consumption. We as a nation have made our modern world on the basis of fossil fuels. We have drug this ’skunk monkey’ for the past one hundred plus years and it has caused a miserable prosperity.
While fossil fuels have generally improved life in the U.S. it has also caused enormous environmental problems in contaminants in ways of aerosol, water, ground and biological.
Isn’t it time we moved on to other sources of energy. There are aircraft carriers that can go for years on nuclear power without re-fueling.
There are nuclear power plants that are tried, proven and safe energy sources.
What will be the next proved source of energy that will dominate the landscape in the U.S? I’m unsure but they better do it quickly, the dependency on fossil fuels is killing us slowly and sometimes quickly (Gulf War.)
It’s time to get on with the future.
Oh, by the way, on a more important note…
My corned beef is in the crock pot. Going to be a very easy meal. I have a couple of cans of those Irish potatoes, already cooked. I’ve got a bag of frozen Brussel sprouts.
As soon as the corned beef is done I’ll take it out of the crock pot and use the juices with some water to cook the Brussel sprouts. When the Sprouts are just about done I’ll put the taters in to heat up and absorb some of the flavors.
Then a simple mustard sauce for the corned beef and Bob’s your uncle!
Bubbles and squeak!
Hank, everything that is happening in Iraq WAS predicted by both the loyal opposition and the Pentagon it’s self.
There was no way to win this going in. An occupation CANNOT win.
The Soviets had the SECOND most powerful military in the world in 1980 when they invaded Afghanistan. They left ten years later with their tails between their legs.
The American military CAN defeat any enemy – no question – but once the war ends and the occupation begins, military might is academic.
Hank–
We won the war. We’re losing the peace.
Same thing happened in Vietnam.
We never lost a battle. Problem is, the RVN didn’t have a leader who could really challenge the nationalist Ho Chi Minh.
We installed puppet leaders and sham governments. That can’t work anymore in the face of modern guerilla insurgencies.
The only reason it worked for the British is because they never overthrew the monarchs in power. They simply ruled from behind the throne.
Look at China. The Dowager Empress was never touched. Same with Emperor Hirohito in Japan after WW2.
But you cowboy your way in with both guns blazing like Vietnam and Iraq (or the French in Algeria or the English in Afghanistan or the Russians in Afghanistan), and you have a helluva problem on your hands.
Alright, Hank you’re push it with your recipe.
And to think, I just have a few steaks to grill this afternoon.
A “war tax” is not a bad idea, at all. Just ain’t gonna’ happen. It certainly might get some people off of TDC. And, just for grins, a 25% surtax on profits, not chargable back to the the people, on resources, like Blackwater, who exist only because of the war!?!
I’d vote for ya! Any plan that keeps my Marine here at home has my vote!
I don’t think we need to go ’strategic’ on them, but the careful use of a few tactical nukes should not be taken off the table!
Hank
Hank, FWIW, I’m going back to the crock pot. The pressure cooker did not turn out the expected result. It was good, but…..(definite refinement required). :) Should have stuck with what I knew instead of experimenting, I think.
We had steaks on Friday. Last night we had some fresh veggies in the crisper that were getting a little ‘edgy’ so I made pasta prima vera.
Umm good!
Hank
I’m hoping we don’t have to vote for any of the current “front runners.”
I can’t vote for Hillary OR Newt. I haven’t seen a candidate I would be enthusiatic about yet.
A pro-war candidate doesn’t have a chance. I’m not against the war in Iraq because I’m against Bush (although I am vehemently against him for many reasons). It should have never been and should not continue. If we go to war it needs to be for better reasons than ANY of the MANY given for the occupation of Iraq.
“How many ELECTED African-Americans are there from the RepubliCON party?”CapnAmerica | March 11, 2007 at 02:07 PM
Quite a few actually, if you look across the entirety of the United States.
And you will notice how CapnAmerica evaluates my posting, that is in his own “hate speech” style.
With people like that in the Democratic Party, does anyone actually want to be in the same room or the same state with this type of thinking? CapnAmerica is a revisionist of facts at his own convenience and that has nothing to do with the betterment of the Democratic Party, it is pure egotistical selfishness.
The Democratic Party is full of his type of thinking – crafty revisionists, dreaming up conspiracies and generally misleading people to the Democratic Party with half-truths, omissions and out and out lies which they perpetuate by shout downs if anyone opposes them.
Listen to Hank and RM.
They’re saying the same thing that we anti-war people were saying three years ago and getting called “traitor” and “American-hater” for it.
Well . . . it doesn’t really matter. Bush and his handlers do what they want and never have cared about representing the American people on either side of the aisle.
We don’t have a pressure cooker, but we do use the crock pot a lot.
My baby will get it ready the night before and put it on in the morning before work.
Meat loaf, pork roasts, buffalo roasts, corned beef, . . . all good to come home to after work!
Hank
JM-RepubliCONman has everything nasty in his post except actual fact to back up any of it.
Consider–not a single African-American is currently serving in an elected office at the federal level.
Not one.
Simple facts are not hate speech, CONman. Learn the difference.
Capn’, were you in Newton in March 2003? If so, you remember the loons that “counter-protested.” I damn near had to PHYSICALLY defend myself from one of them.
Sad.
The thing that really gets me hot is that events played out almost exactly as we predicted.
Damn.
Capn’, this is a portion of RepubliKhan post from last night. Like a pimple on your ass, the best course of action is to ignore it and it will go away all by it’s self……
You sure you and Capn Communist, JR are not homosexuals.
Guess those two failed marriages you had weren’t work for ya huh?
Ex-wife’s complaining about your small penis so you had to get a boyfriend who would cuddle with you eh?
It’s okay Heevie, it’s your right to be Homosexual if you want.
Just start marching in those Gay parades Heevie and show your pride!
Posted by: RepubliKhan | March 11, 2007 at 01:17 AM
Sorry capt,
I was for the war. I’m still for winning the war.
About the only thing I see from the dems is a constant anti-Bush policy that has nothing to do with the war really.
They were against Bush Sr after the Kuwait invasion. then when he built the UN coalition they said 50,000 body bags would be needed. Then when Bush stopped before getting Saddam (in accordance with the UN mandate) they said that was wrong, he should have finished the job. then when Bush Jr wanted to finish the job, that was wrong. Oh, yea, they all voted for it because it was an election year and it was politically expedient to do so, then they immediately were against it again.
If a dem gets elected president they wouldn’t find anything anything wrong with nuking France, but as long as a republican is president their foreign policy decisions are easy, appose Bush!
Sound familiar?
Hank
Consider–not a single African-American is currently serving in an elected office at the federal level. Not one.Simple facts are not hate speech, CONman. Learn the difference.Posted by: CapnAmerica | March 11, 2007 at 02:29 PM
Simply because the Democratic Party are the masters of omissions, half-truths and out and out lies. They have convinced the Black and people of color in the U.S., that they are the party of opportunity when in fact, the Democratic Party’s history disproves that.
Like I said before, the Democratic Party knows how to do the side-step shuffle very well and the know how to exploit half-truths and omissions into massive conspiracy theories.
All of this exploitation is based on lies. The reason why there are so many Blacks and Hispanics in federally elected offices is that for (1)They are convinced that the lies the Democratic Party are somehow true (2) They are part of Congressional Districts drawn up by Democrats to their great advantage (3) Those serving are enjoying the power they now achieved and have become adept themselves on furthering half-truths, omission, lies and conspiracies to keep them in power.
So, Hank but I am against Bush and always have been since I first heard of his existence. I strongly dislike everything he has tried to do to this country and I find him to be hypocritical and heartless.
That was long before 9/11. That was long before December 12, 2000. That was back when he was just another wannabe cowboy in Texas.
The man flat out disgusts me and always has. He is a posuer, nothing more.
I have always considered war to be a last resort. I supported Bush I in the first Gulf War, despite that fact that I strongly dislike George H W Bush.
Like Michael said, “it’s not personal, it’s business.”
You really want to get into a posting contest WSClark? Want me to post all the lies and tactics you and CapnAmerica posted?
I won’t, because unlike you I will stick to the issues at hand and not keep bringing up things.
You like the Democratic Party because it allows people like you to perpetuate the lies, half-truths and omissions along with the conspiracy theories.
Keep on posting your garbage WSClark, people will know as if they didn’t know already what you really are.
Pimple on ass….. will go away…. just ignore……
Repeat as necessary.
republikhan,
“That’s right, Vice President Al Gore Jr., father was opposed to the Civil Rights Bill.”
Looks like Gore Sr. may have voted against that 1964 bill so he could get re-elected.He won, and voted FOR the 1965 Voting Rights Act, and other progressive bills. He later apologized for the 1964 vote, called it the biggest mistake of his career.
Gore Sr.’s PRO-civil rights stance caused his 1970 defeat.
See MARANISS AND NAKASHIMA: article 1/2 way down page,http://www.dailyhowler.com/h051200_1.shtml
“The reason why there are so many Blacks and Hispanics in federally elected offices is that for (1)They are convinced that the lies the Democratic Party are somehow true (2) They are part of Congressional Districts drawn up by Democrats to their great advantage (3) Those serving are enjoying the power they now achieved and have become adept themselves on furthering half-truths, omission, lies and conspiracies to keep them in power.”
Posted by Republikant.
What??? So all elected blacks are too stupid to think for themselves, according to you? Boy, you are definetly a moronic, arrogant, brain dead bushbot. I suggest you take up knitting. Just use really dull needles, please. Wouldn’t want to waste precious resources on you pulling them out of your a**, which is, apparently, where you thoughts come from.
Hell, maybe you can write comedy skits for ann coulter; you both seem to be endowed with the same single digit iq.
As stated, Bush Sr. stopped Iraq 1 because of the UN mandate. The UN is, and always has been, an ineffective penile implant for a hopelessly impotent League of Nations. Refusing to acknowledge any authority of the UN and evicting them from prime real estate in NYC, (perhaps Darfur would be a good home for them) would be, like a train load full of Al-Quaeda going over a 1000′ cliff. It might not end the problem, but it would be a hell of a good start.
J M W, facts are not allowed when debating reich wingers. As our very own Paul F. Rossell said, “the truth is what I say it is.”
Yes Cosmos, that’s the Democratic way, Political Expediency, not holding a belief of doing what is write. A true Politician, Al Gore Sr. used the guise of sacrificing himself on the altar of forgiveness to get re-elected again.
Gore’s racism didn’t disappear he just just put out a lame apology and pressed on with his Political career, all along knowing what was in his heart and mind, that he was a racist.
Posted by: J M Walker | March 11, 2007 at 02:51 PM
J M Walker can’t handle the truth it stings too much.
“As stated, Bush Sr. stopped Iraq 1 because of the UN mandate.”
RM, Bush the Smarter was also advised that moving into Baghdad would lead to an occupation quagmire. That advice came from Powell and (!?!?!) Dick Cheney.
I agree that the UN is a cluster f*ck – but WE are the UN. The USA has a permanant position on the Security Council. We have let it get out of control and now we are paying the price.
BTW – That is one Hell of a basketball game in Ok City. Durant is awesome, but KU has a great TEAM.
Now now everyone, let’s be civilized here. All that hot air coming from you all is just going to add to our too warm of planet. Remain calm please.
WSC: Like I said, 3 bombs, 3 cities, 1 question.
Is KU winning? I’m watching NASCAR.
“Is KU winning?”
KU was down by 19, they went on a run and cut it to five. Durant has 22 points already. If you don’t know who he is, he is the Texas forward, only 18 and the best player in the country. He is also a FTRST CLASS kid – no thug life wannabe.
Next year he will turn pro and will buy the State of his choice.
FTRST CLASS kid…..
He is also a FIRST CLASS KID. I read a recent article about him on ESPN.com. He is a better young man than he is a basketball player – and that is saying a hell of a lot.
republikhan’s definition of a “racist”.
http://www.dailyhowler.com/h051200_1.shtml“MARANISS AND NAKASHIMA: [Sen. Gore] won reelection that fall [1964] and returned to Washington, where from then on he acted like an unflinching Southern progressive attuned to the needs of his black constituents.He voted for the 1965 Voting Rights Act and the 1968 Fair Housing Act, opposed President Nixon’s two Southern nominees for the Supreme Court…and eventually apologized for his 1964 vote, calling it the biggest mistake of his career.All during that time he took a pounding from segregationists and real estate interests who opposed the open housing laws.”
And he lost the 1970 re-election.
I know nothing about basketball, except what VT tells me. It’s not that I don’t like it, I’m just totally ambivilent about it. If it was cancelled forever, I might realize it was gone….in 5 or 10 years.
I would hope the Durant kid would continue his “free” education at such a great institution as the University of Texas-Austin. He can’t play basketball forever.
Cosmos, et al: What ya’ll are not understanding is that these people did not see themselves as racists. They viewed themselves as “benevolent white folk who hepped the po’ nigras, who couldn’t hep themselves”. And, they were truly aghast that they were being accused of racism. Only when you understand their self-perception, can you understand how and why it happened. I’m not apologizing for it…I’m simply explaining it.
I’m sure Ben, growing up in Georgia, would tell you the same thing.
Sorry RM, but in a few years, Kevin Durant is going to have a net worth of around $100 million.
He will probably earned about $20 next year alone.
If he continued to play for Texas, he could blow out a knee and end up spending his Sunday afternoons posting on WE Blog.
$20 next year alone…..
Can’t watch and type at the same time – this game is getting intense.
That should have been $20 million.
Texas is back up by nine.
I don’t get these reasonable CONs like Hank and RM.
They admit that Bush got us into a quagmire. They admit that the whole pile of slop that is Iraq isn’t worth the death of a single American.
But who are to blame?
Why, the Democrats. We didn’t support our president in a time of war.
We didn’t support him because it was a stupid war.
We did support the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. And we still suport it.
The problem is that we can’t deal with the real problem (Al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan) while we’re dealing with the fake problem (Iraq).
That would be a hard decision, no doubt. He could, however, blow out a knee in pre-season practice with the NBA next year. And his “hangers on” blow his signing bonus, and then what??? If I was his age, I’d say, “Show me the money”, too. But now, I see things much differently.
I beg your pardon, Capn. Where and when did I blame the Democrats?
As for the name-switching troll who presently goes by RepubliKhan, I’m going to try not to respond to you in any way except to point out that you’re a name-switching troll.
You do such a magnificent job of making yourself look an ass without any help on our part.
Consider the last post: that blacks overwhelming support the Democratic party because they’re too stupid to do anything else.
Yeah, that should be a winning argument for you people . . .
Well, I may have painted with too broad a brush there, RM.
I’m glad you don’t blame the Democrats.
Thanks for clarifying that.
“And his “hangers on” blow his signing bonus”
The thing about Durant is, RM, thae young man does not have any of that going. He is just a smart, well spoken young man, a studious college student that just happens to be the best college basketball player on the planet.
Here is a link to the ESPN.com article.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=2784631
On to some serious stuff here…..
The forecast calls for the possibility of thunderstorms tonight in Wichita. Now I am planning to grill a few steaks for my son and I tonight before he goes to work on the midnight shift.
So for you betting folks, can I grill without getting wet or will the storms hold off?
Ain’t life a bitch.
Looking at the radar, I’d call it 70% to rain within the hour in Wichita, even less if you’re in the south part or Derby. Maybe two hours if your up by Valley Center…it’s large, moving north northeast, but slowly.
Obbviously, I meant “an” hour, not The” hour.
Yeah, but the trick is; I will not be cooking until 7:30 tonight. I start my coals slowly using a chimney rather than lighter fluid. For steaks, I get the coals red hot in the chimney, dump them in the grill then immediately throw on the steaks.
The pressure is on – perfect steaks on the grill or wimp out and use the stove?
The steaks in marinating right now in the ‘fridge. I guess I have a little time to ponder my decision.
(double wink!)
rm – you are absolutely correct – the “white man’s burden”. One thing I also recall is that as a child I would never call an adult white by first name but it was routine with blacks. Sort of a subtle ‘inferior’ thing. I had to change quite a bit from the 50s to today. It is a legacy that is ingrained.
And not just blacks by the way – Catholics and Jews were even worse! (In the view of the KKK)
WSC – chicken on the grill for me – if I have to use an umbrella!
Hey Ben! I am not coordinated enough to cook and hold an umbrella at the same time!!!
BTW – Chicken on the grill is one of my favorites, but lately beef has been on sale and chicken is full price.
My grill menu is decided by the price stter at Dillon’s!!!
So true WSC – and I tend to stock my freezer by his schedule. (Thus my comments to Hank the other evening)
Hint Guys: The next time Dillons has, say, chicken breasts at “Buy 1, Get 1 Free”, go in the first or second day late at night. They won’t have any, and they’ll give you a rain check, good for 60 days. Then, go back the next morning, after the truck has been unloaded and buy as many as you want. In 30 days or so, go back and use your rain check. Perpetual sale on chicken breasts. Same thing works for steaks, ground round or sirloin, etc., as long as you have freezer space. Also, can get good deals of “10 for $10″ deals, late at night, before restocking for the next day. Only tricky part is watching that the dates on the rain checks don’t expire.
Damn, spoken like a true lawyer, RM!!!
(triple wink, my friend!!!!)
I’ve been getting most of my meats in the ‘bargain bin’ at White’s IGA in Goddard. It’s on the way home and lots of the time there’s a pretty good deal on meats.
I got 4 rib eyes yesterday that I’ll probably freeze later since I didn’t cook them today.
The corned beef in the crock pot was one of the bargains I found there. 2.73lbs at a $1.00 a lb! Almost free!
Last fall I found two whole Cooks hams that had reached their sell by date in the regular meat counter and told my neighbor. She went out and bought them the next morning, one for her and one for me. The butcher cut them in half for us and charged us $.39 a pound! Again, almost free!
Hank
I’m sure that everyone saw the Doil Lane is off of Texas’ death row, because he’s retarded (?). He’ll never draw a free breath outside of prison, but, I’m sorry. That just ain’t good enough. For the Shoemakers’ extended family, that just ain’t good enough. For the hundreds and hundreds of folks who searched for Nancy, it just ain’t good enough. For society as a whole, that just ain’t good enough. But, most of all, for Nancy, it just ain’t good enough.
Hank: Cool. They have a White’s in Kingman, too. I’ve only been in there once, but it was clean, neat and the prices were reasonable.
The commissary at McConnell has good meats at a pretty good price, don’t go out there much, always seems to be to far out of the way. Pretty good prices on prime cuts.
When the boy comes home I might go out there and get a couple of NY strip prime cuts and we’ll cut them as desired for his coming home party at the club house.
Some corn on the cob, baked taters, steaks a little expensive beer and cheep wine and we’ll welcome the boy home.
Back to your regularly scheduled program on Monday!
Hank
Yeah, I know a lot of folks who could go out to commissary and the liquor store out there, but they don’t because you have to get organized and buy a months worth of stuff to go clear out there. That’s one of the problems/solutions with real small town living. When the closest “real” grocery store is a 40 mile round trip, you learn/force yourself to plan ahead.
Alright, since RM and Hank are bustin’ my chops (wink!) let me give you a two cent hint for CHEAP cuts.
Hit the meat counter and if your wallet is a bit light, you can pick up some of the cheaper cuts, usually on sale. The day before you hit the grill, marinate the steaks in a mixture of sea salt water and lemon juice in equal parts. Rinse well before tossing them on the grill. Give them a little coarse black pepper and olive oil. Heat the coals to cherry red and throw them on. Grill to desired (rare of course) and serve.
When the story is all told, cheap bastards like me will rule the world.
WSG: Not cheap, buddy. We’re just “thrifty”!! :)
rm – I use the same trick at Dillons! And hank – my son buys a lot at IGA Goddard. I get chicken legs a lot – grill all winter long!
I’ve got a freezer and a refrigerator in the pantry. My pantry is well stocked, I buy rice at the Vietnamese markets in 25 lb bags. My meats and canned goods I get on sale in bulk.
Momma puts up pears and apples from our trees and we go every year and pick peaches. We grow a garden every year and fresh home grown tomatoes, egg plants, taters, and peppers are standard fare.
Cheap meats? Nah, there are lean cuts and fat cuts! I follow the sales and get good cuts cheap!
I’ve got a stove top smoker and I make my own pastrami when briskets are on sale. Dillons will have their ocean caught salmon on sale two for one occasionally and I smoke my own salmon too.
Yum, yum.
Hank
Hank – I’m on my way!
Consider the last post: that blacks overwhelming support the Democratic party because they’re too stupid to do anything else.Yeah, that should be a winning argument for you people . . .Posted by: CapnAmerica | March 11, 2007 at 03:32 PM
I never wrote anything like that nor would I write anything like that.
Take a look folks, this is exactly what I’m talking about that Democrats do. They tell out and out lies to make THEMSELVES look good or some one else very bad.
It is people like CapnAmerica that exist in today’s society that will perpetuate misconceptions because of their hidden agendas.
Don’t buy into the Democratic Party, they are full of deceivers.
I’m sorry RM I disagree. I think it’s cruel and unusual to kill someone who may not have known better.
I feel very sorry for the parents of the girl, but this man’s developmental age is probably the same as hers was, and I don’t want children on death row either.
RepubliKhan: I know you didn’t. I was just being respectful of your right to tell him to go f**k himself. You said nothing of the kind. I don’t necessarily attribute that to being a Democrat. I’m leaning toward the “other ‘d’ word”— delusional.
“I never wrote anything like that nor would I write anything like that.”
Posted by republikant.
“The reason why there are so many Blacks and Hispanics in federally elected offices is that for (1)They are convinced that the lies the Democratic Party are somehow true (2) They are part of Congressional Districts drawn up by Democrats to their great advantage (3) Those serving are enjoying the power they now achieved and have become adept themselves on furthering half-truths, omission, lies and conspiracies to keep them in power.”
Also posted by republikant.
Yep, nothing rascist there, if you’re a neo-con bushbot of course.
PMom: You can disagree, I respect that. Don’t be sorry. There’s no reason. I’m just a simple father of daughters here, and I won’t apologize for my feelings, and neither should you. Thank you for your opinion.
Another batch of two cents worth…
Since my friend RM is a THRIFY SOB (just like me!!!) and my soon to be best buddy, Hank, are both masters at the game……..
When the stuff gets really on sale, buy as much as they allow. If necessary, cheat a bit. It is “two per customer,” so have the kids, grandkids, et al, buy their own.
Invest in good quality freezer bags, make sure that you squeeze as much air out of the bags as possible and freeze those suckers.
Two months later, thaw the cuts in the ‘fridge, marinate and hit the grill.
My freezer is filled with baby backs, lesser cuts of beef and chicken breasts.
Remember, lemon juice is a great tenderizer – far better than commercial stuff – and sea salt and water could soften your work boots if necessary.
That’s it – please send your two cents into the address noted above!
Yep, nothing rascist there, if you’re a neo-con bushbot of course.
Posted by: J M Walker | March 11, 2007 at 06:40 PM
Note how J M Walker cannot point out what is racist about my statement even though it is not in any way.
He, like CapnAmerica just say someone is racist and if they repeat it enough it will become true. This yet another Democratic Party technique on disguising truth.
No problem RM, remember, I”m the mommy of a little boy who is brilliant but functions at about half his developmental age. I can’t expect him to act his age, and I realize the challenges.
I would HOPE that if it were my son who was harmed by someone who is just like him, I would feel the same mercy upon him as I would hope would be shown to my own son if (heaven forbid) he end up hurting someone.
Did that make sense?
Well, well… I was having a bit of fun talking about grilling an dthe up coming season with Hank, Ben and RM…..
Then some “pimple” has to show up, tossing hatred around and the bloom is off the rose.
And the Pimple says that I am a self hater…………
So much for Sunday.
Yes, PMom, it makes sense. But, having said that, you are, I’m sure, inuring morals and values into your son, at the level which he comprehends and have nothing to do with functioning levels. I’ve known more people with IQ’s of 60 with much stricter senses of moral values than most people I know with IQ’s of 160+. Now, before somebody brings it up, we have to consider the company I keep. :)
WSC – on occassion I will pour a little marinade (soy, lemon, seasonongs) into the freezer bag before putting it in the freezer. Especially with tougher cuts like chuck.
No WSClark, you are the only one typing hate speech by using the term pimple to describe someone.
This is another technique by the left, name calling over and over and over.
WSC: Yeah, “good freezer bags” is a major key to success in our nefarious schemes. And my daughter and I do the “limit per customer per day” deal all the time. Give Repubikhan a bit of a break today, as am I, because he’s being misquoted and mis-spoken big time here today. I don’t know who he is, and don’t really care, but I’m trying to be fair. He was clearly speaking the truth when he was taking about Southern politics. I know. Ben and I were there.
Danke Schoen Herr RM6046
Republikhan: WSC is a good man. Neither of you should be sniping at each other. It serves no purpose, save distraction from the issues. Please? I asked him, now I’m asking you.
Instilling morals has little to do with it sometimes though.
Sometimes it’s impulse, sometimes it’s unintentional at all. Like that little kid that body slammed a little girl- I don’t think he meant to kill her.
And sexually, when boys grow up and their hormones take over, they don’t have the wherewithall to be able to deal with it, they can’t have mature relationships with those their own age, and often seek out those who are more mentally their age.
Now I’m not excusing that by any means- they have to be taught that you cannot act upon it. But we have to consider that is what is really going on, not that they intentionally hurt or intentionally sought out little girls. KWIM?
It’s not the same thing as some dirty man who thinks little girls are there for the abusing.
Sadly though, the end result is the same.
That should have said retarded kids when they grow up to be men…
I have a cousin who has Downs Syndrome. He was brought up in a Christian home and with very good manners. He knows that he should hold the door for others, help clear the dinner table, do his chores, respect the space of those around him and generally be a good citizen.
He knows the value of treating girls and women with respect as that was taught to him at a very young age.
He has the mind of a child, but is often more mature than most normal IQ people I have seen. he will be 53 soon and in pretty good shape physically. He’s a joy to be around as he always is respectful.
Unfortunately, RM, Khan startd his attacks on Capn’ and I completely without provocation.
I have chosen to ignore him and in deference to my respect for you (don’t let it go to your head, quad wink!!!) I am not going to say more.
This whole “I will come on the blog and attack” routine has grown really old. I have only been here for a few months, yet I constantly get slammed – not for my political views, but on a personal basis.
If Khan thinks I have a small penis – well – who cares what a Khan thinks?
Sometimes, it is best to find a different playground.
I will be here for a while, but this is getting tiresome.
PMom: You don’t hurt people, son. No matter what. You run to safety. You scream. You alert people to your problem. These are the sort of “moral values” I’m talking about here—maybe “moral values” is a bad choice of words — it becomes rote learning. It surfaces at every synapse. It saves lives. Your son’s and others — how does it get better than that? Your son, sadly to say, may be a victim of a predator in the future. The same lessons that prevent him from hurting someone else could well save his life someday.
I agree.
Right now, he loves to talk to people. EVERYONE. He’s very trusting because he don’t know when someone is teasing him.
He just doesn’t get that someone might not be nice.
Just yesterday, we were at Lowes, and he was hanging out the window over me chatting it up with the bypassers. I said “honey don’t talk to strangers”. He doesn’t know what a stranger is.
This kind of learning takes time.There are differences between what makes someone ‘retarded’. You can’t even compare autism to down’s.
Dealing first with penis size, Mark Twain said it best: “It ain’t the size of your pencil, it’s what you write with it that counts.” By God, that’s certainly brought me acceptance for many ‘a year.
I’m just saying that within two or three or four, etc., minds, albeit they are of different points of view, lays the solution to problems. Isn’t that obstenibly what this is all about? Calling names, regardless of who is doing it, is counter-productive and if we’re not productive, even in this insignificant forum isn’t important, then….nothing is.
PMom: Absolutely correct. There is no comparison whatsoever between Down’s Syndrome and Autism.
Well, RM, concerning penis size, I have already revealed that I have black ancestry…..
That should be enough…….
I will say, my friend, that I have never attacked without being attacked first.
I can say that with a clear conscience. That is not my game. I will be respectful, as long as I am treated with respect.
But after a while, I get damned sick of being called a drug addict, an alcoholic, a welfare recipient, a homosexual, etc.
I can take care of myself – but I can get damned nasty in the process.
I enjoy a good debate on the issues, such as I enjoy with you and Ben. After that, I get sick of having to defend myself, particularly against people that have only one reason to be on the blog and that is to take shots.
The “Pimple” that I have referred to came to the blog and IMMEDIATELY attacked J R, Capn’ and me. There was no provocation and no reason for the personal attacks.
I understand that some here do not like me, Fleet and Caruso come to mind, but the other attacks are just Jr. High School stuff.
That having been said……..
Don’t despair Clark,
Caruso is a classy lady, I dearly love her. (Hope Dave is napping!). She’ll warm up to you, you both are so wrong about many of the same things!
Hank
Speaking of NASCAR, I’m glad Jimmy Johnson won today. My favorite driver is the one passing Jeff Gordon or running Junior into the wall!
Hank
“She’ll warm up to you”
Sorry, Hank, she has already said that I care more for terrorists or rapists or murderers than I do for the UNBORN.
Sorry, that does not sound like someone that is going to WARM UP TO ME.
How anyone, not knowing you could accuse you of those things, should be unimaginable. Sorry to say, it’s not. These are, like profanity, which I am not adverse to use, more often than not, “the effort of a feeble mind, trying to express itself forcibly.” I guess the only relaxation from those attacks comes from “consider(ing) the source”. But, regardless of what inane ramblings roll over out there, if you let them get to you, “the bad guys win”. And I’ll be damned if I intend to let them win, regardless of what they may call me tomorrow.
I can let go what you said about me WSClark.
Let’s see if you can do the same.
I’ll be waiting in the debate hall of WE Blog.
Damn, Hank, we have more in common than I thought!!! :)
I must have missed that! She is a little pro-life for a liberal! God Bless her!
You’ld like her though, you and her are wrong about a lot of the same things!
Hank
Hank: I really wanted to see Jeff Burton do the two-fer today, but as long as Gordon and Jr. crap out, it’s a damned good day.
When I was in the Navy I was stationed in Charleston a couple of times. (The boy was born in the Navy Hospital there).
I’ve been to all of the major NASCAR races. We’d get there Friday night and camp in the infields, Atlanta was my favorite! We’d sober up around noon on Monday and find our way home!
Hank
Sure, Khan, but first explain why you attacked J R, CapnAmerica and me totally WITHOUT provocation.
I would like an answer – I have asked before.
What is your response?
Cool. Darlington and, of course, Talladega, are my faves. There is really a long story there, but I’ll not ell it here, since it’s very long, beginning in the very early ’70’s and culminating in July, 1977 , in Austin, Texas. Worth hearing, but not here.
Got a friend in Boston that is a sub-contractor, a regular Norm Abrams.
He was at a trade show in KC and invited us up for the weekend. Had to be in the business to get in, wasn’t open to the public.
Richard (the King) Petty was there promoting something, signing autographs on an 8 by 10 color glossy of him and his race car.
Al and I were in line to get one of his autographs for about a half hour when he took a break. We gave up and started looking for my wife. We found her at the concession area, drinking a Pepsi with the King!
Sh was in line to get a Pepsi when she realized she had left her purse in the car and had no money. Richard Petty bought her drink and they were sitting together like old friends!
She didn’t know who he was! Nice old guy she said, weird hat though!
Hank
Talledega! One of my favorites too! Been a long time since I’ve been to one, I’m getting to old for the crowds and noise.
Hank
I can see WSClark doesn’t want to (fill in the blank.)
Like I said, I’ll be waiting in the debate hall, whenever you decide to let it go and enter the discussion as a mature adult.
Hank: Check your e.mail, please.
No, check your email, I insist!
Hank
“No wonder you live alone and drink. You probably hate who you are.”
Khan, typical from a Republican….. I gave you an out, but you seem to think that insulting me should be acceptable, while you get a free pass.
I gave you an opportunity, but you continue to insult me, despite the fact that until a few days ago, I had never heard of you.
As I have posted before, I hope your landlord finds your patheticbody rotting in the sun.
Ah, the unrepentant WSClark doesn’t want to participate in the world of mature adults discussing issues in a mature manner.
I will continue to post in a mature manner, perhaps controversial, but mature.
We’ll see how things go as time passes.
“I will continue to post in a mature manner, perhaps controversial, but mature.”
No I’d be looking over Plame’s shoulder and ask her if she would be interested in sleeping with me. :)
Posted by: RepubliKhan | March 10, 2007 at 09:23 PM
Look another post by one of the sisters: Posted by: WSClark | March 11, 2007 at 12:57 AM
Another loser who has no clue that all he does is to disrupt the Blog, call others names and generally be a n asshole by his own admission.
These are your posts, Khan….
Care to explain why you attacked J R, Capn’ and me?
Until you do, you are just another Ian Santiago.
Anyone want my IP address?
WSClark, absolutely my posts no denial.
Now unless you turn the other cheek as I have, the Blog will just have to go on without you.
Or you can go back to your old style and method, your choice.
wsc, I want to congraulate you on doing a good job of ignoring (most) of the day. It will work so keep it up. I look forward to agreeing with you (on most things) for a long time. lol
Who won the game?
Bush Seeks 8,200 More Troops for Wars(AP) President Bush has asked Congress to fund 8,200 more U.S. troops for Afghanistan and Iraq, on top of the 21,500-troop buildup announced in January.
KU won a nail biter in overtime to be crowned the Big 12 tourney champs. It was a good game but sure scary (for this KU fan).
Roxann,
President Bush asks for the increase of troops upon the learned advice of his Military Commanders in the field via the Secretary of Defense. He does not pull these numbers out of a hat.
It’s part of a process.
Yay KU!
“Now unless you turn the other cheek as I have, the Blog will just have to go on without you.”
You have no intention of turning your cheek, Khan.
Your sole purpose since you arrive here a few days ago was to play as if you were “new” to this blog, while attacking people.
I have not true idea who you are, but I have my suspicions, but it is obvious that you were not interested in a civil debate.
Your ideas have lost in the public square, so now you have resorted to penis jokes and accusations of homosexuality.
What a lose you are, Khan.
If you want to play, ANSWER THE QUESTION – WHY DID YOU IMMEDIATELY BEGIN ATTACKING J R, CAPN’ AND ME, LONG BEFORE YOU HAD ANY OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW US?
You obviously have an agenda – what is your problem with me and my friends?
David Patraeus was overwhelmingly approved by the Senate, including most of the democrats with enough balls to vote.
It’s only logical to give this general the troops and support that he asks for, isn’t it?
Just wondering,
Hank
RM6046–
This is why I hate RepubliKhan’s guts and why I want The Eagle to ban him.
Here’s P-Mom with a child who has MR. She’s pouring herself out by sharing her personal struggles with us.
Then we have a disruptive arrogant jerk who posts this LIE: “I have a cousin who has Downs Syndrome. He was brought up in a Christian home” blah blah lie lie lie . . . he will be 53 soon and in pretty good shape physically.”
That’s a strange way to describe someone suffering from Alzheimer’s Disease. “The neuropathologic findings related to AD have been described in all DS individuals older than 35 years.”
http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic552.htm
He has already exceeded the average lifespan for DS patients by 5 years, and he should definitely be exhibiting AD symptoms by now.
But Mr. I-Can’t-Help-Myself-from-Lying has to throw in a bullsh*t attention-getting story . . .
Hey, Eier, is your cousin white or black?
This Khan is a funny little man. He addresses RD as Roxanne, even though he has NO blog history, he is a KU fan, even though he has no KU history and conveniently ignores any question about his motives.
He is obviously WAY, WAY, WAY smarter than Fleetwood, but even WAY, WAY, WAY more intelligent than Golf Nut. He could be JM, the religious wacko, but who really knows?
No one knows, but the right wing wack jobs has ruined the blog for the rest of us.
Mr. Clark,
I know it is Roxann by her email. I don’t know if i spelled it correctly.
And you should really try moving on and participate in the discussion. I see you made good earlier in the day and was complimented on your posts.
I am moving on to be a more mature poster and its quite enjoyable. You should try it.
So kind of you to “move on” Khan after accusing me of bing a homosexual alcoholic.
Very kind of you.
Now, please die.
Khan still hasn’t figured out how to spin his “Down’s Syndrome” cousin who has made a liar out of the medical textbooks.
Hey, who are you going to believe? The Merck Manual or Khan, with his pattern of lying to cover his lies?
Posted by: CapnAmerica | March 11, 2007 at 09:17 PM”Then we have a disruptive arrogant jerk who posts this LIE: “I have a cousin who has Downs Syndrome. He was brought up in a Christian home” blah blah lie lie lie . . . he will be 53 soon and in pretty good shape physically.”
Why would you think this is a lie?
The longevity of Down’s Syndrome individuals has increased dramatically in the past twenty years as Physicians become aware of their special needs and the need to get them to regular checkups at Medical Care facilities.
He’s a cool guy and has fun bowling in his league and generally paling around with his buddies.
“And you should really try moving on and participate in the discussion.”
I was an intregral part of the discussion long before you came along, Khan.
You, Golf Nut amd Fleet have nothing to add to the conversation. All you do is troll, make false accusations and pretend to be more intelligent than the neighborhood gravel pit.
To tell the truth, I know at least a thousand dozen dogs thay have more common sense than all three of you and JM put together.
If you would like to explain whty you have been attacking J R, Capn’ and me, fine – I would love to hear your explanation.
If not, go join the pile of crap inhabited by Fleet, Nuts and JM.
Perhaps CapnAmerica you would enjoy reading more about people with Down’s Syndrome at this link. I have also provided a snippet from that article.
http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1214.asp
According to the National Down Syndrome Society, there are approximately 350,000 individuals with Down syndrome in this country. Life expectancy among adults with Down syndrome is about 55 years, though life span varies depending on the individual and his or her medical condition.
The longevity has increased and so has the increase in Alzeheimer’s for DS patients.
Yeah, he’s in great shape . . .
Freakin caught dead to rights and he stands there and continues to lie through his freaking teeth.
Thank God, he’s a CONservative.
Okay CapnAmerica,
I think I know my cousin better than you do and what kind of shape he is in.
Sorry you cannot believe he is in good health and functioning the best he can despite the medical condition he was born with.
And Reagan lived for a decade as a mental vegetable.
Wouldn’t say he was in “great shape.”
Fact is, you don’t have a cousin with “Down’s syndrome.” You may not even have a cousin.
But if you did, you’d probably be married to her.
Okay CapnAmerica,
Play “tease the dog with a stick” if you want.
I’m not playing.
On the “Spitting” thread, Mr. Cock-and-Bull story posted about how he got a waiver because of bad back in the military.
I remember JM saying he had never been to Vietnam, so I asked JM . . . uh . . . I mean Khan why he had never served in Vietnam.
Here’s his reply:
Yeah, but you were never in ‘Nam though, RepubliKhan.
How’d you manage to evade that one?
Posted by: CapnAmerica | March 11, 2007 at 09:35 PM
Too young CapnAmerica?
Posted by: Republikhan | March 11, 2007 at 09:37 PM
Unfortunately for him, Mr. Lie-a-Minute had forgot that he had posted this earlier on the same day:
James Earl Carter, Jr., served as President from 1977 to 1981.
I distinctly remember “wiping my brow” as I had gotten my interest rate at 6.5 percent years earlier.
Posted by: Republikhan | March 10, 2007 at 08:50 PM
He’s claiming that he was old enough to get a mortgage on a house in say 1974, but he was too young to go to ‘Nam.
See, that’s what you get with Khan’s (and JM and Eier and Uncle William).
The sh*t he says just doesn’t add up and it doesn’t ring true.
Just like the 53 year old Down’s Syndrome ‘cousin’ that is in ‘great shape’ against all medical odds . . .
Must be that Christian home, eh, Khan?
He’s amusing himself at our expense.
He’s seeing how much lying BS we’ll swallow.
The CONs are getting played for suckers just as much as the Libs are by this inDUHvidual.
I’m not posting for YOUR benefit, Khan.
I’m posting for the benefit of people who want to interact with other post-ers who aren’t just lying through their teeth.
CapnAmerica,
I’m done with you. I tried today to talk fair and square with you.Your obsession with my personal life as come up to the point of stalking.
Now if you continue, people will begin to realize you cannot let it go because of you are and what you want to represent to others.
That is, a Blog bully who will use any method at his disposable to make it appear he can win an argument.
Have a nice life CapnAmerica. You are now on ignore.
Oh, no you don’t, you POS.
You can’t run from your posts like that.
All I’m doing is reposting what you post and asking people to decide if that sounds likely or if it sounds like a lie?
That’s not cyberstalking.
That’s shutting down a troll.
Did your son really have an IQ of 167 though?
That would really be remarkable. Did he go to med school or anything?
JM Khan
Please have the courtesy to ignore me as well.
And THANK YOU WS for pointing out JM Khan’s shot on me that I am a homosexual.I call it a “shot” not because there is anything wrong with homosexuals.
I call it a shot because it is a lie.
Sheesh Jm Khan. Do you SLEEP? No life but being an irritant on this blog?
I am sorry for you. But I do not have to suffer being lied on.
I really do not know why it is you continue to post here. Clearly you have a compulsive need to be despicable. Well if that is a relief valve that prevents you from becoming an active socio path? I GUESS it is worth it?
If you feel the need to take baseless false shots on me, let’s take it personal. It is my estimation that you are also responsible for some trolling of my nic. There too, I invited you to share your difficulties with me that we might settle them.
Otherwise? DO NOT post about or to me. I’ve more important things to do.
Ignores and yawns,
-throws nerf darts at board…-flips channels with remote-reads article on British Politics-eats popcorn-thinks about vacation time and where to go-heads to shower
Yup, that’s what I’m wondering too, JR.
This guy LIVES on the Blog. I pop on a few times a day, and there he is, concocting more bs stories that are always just a little too convenient to be true.
Somebody posts about the VA hospitals, and he knows all about them because he was in the military. P-Mom posts about her retarded son and there’s JM Khan with his Down’s Syndrome cousin. Somebody mentions interest rates under Carter, and thank goodness, JM got his mortgage just a few years earlier so he didn’t have to pay those high interest rates.
I mean if somebody brings up climbing K2, this guy is going to tell all about how he rescues stranded climbers on Everest.
Ordinary reality isn’t interesting enough for him. He has to try to make himself the be-all and end-all of every thread.
He’s a sick-o.
They won’t let you have anything sharper than NERF huh? That’s wise.
Disappear from this blog scumbag. Or make a noise like a man and have the guts to stand behind it.
PrivateJackass,
Want my IP address?
The more I think about it, J R, the more I think that the “Black Liar” comment was not an accidental slur.
I have done some research, since I was not familiar with the terminology.
“Black liar” is not a common expression. Actually, if you Google it, it does not come up in that context.
At this point, until Raptor actaully retracts his statement, I will have to assume that it WAS a racial slur.
Hmmm, I don’t see Raptor’s post anywhere in this open thread.
Oh never mind, certain people will extract anything they wish out of other threads and interpret it as they wish, then take it personally.
My bad I was looking for mature posts. I’ll look elsewhere.
“My bad I was looking for mature posts. I’ll look elsewhere.”
Does this mean you are leaving, Khan?
Please?!?!
I’ll tell you what… you leave this blog and never come back and I will make a donation in your “name” to the March of Dimes.
Deal?
Woof, you said,
“I will say, my friend, that I have never attacked without being attacked first.”
Oh boosheeet.
You attack if there is a rivalry going on that doesn’t even concern you – such as the discussion I’ve had with farmie.
Admit it – you just like to roll around in the mud, and you will use any excuse to do that.
That’s fine – but don’t deny it after the fact.
lol
JR – instead of telling others to ‘disappear’ from this blog – YOU head out…just don’t let the screen door hit ya……
Autistic Capn, Autistic.
Not that there is anything wrong with ‘retarded’, but it doesn’t fit him. He was actually diagnosed mental retardation secondary to autism, moderate…but since re-evaluation they’ve dropped the mental retardation.
Ah, okay, got it, Mom.
And I apologize that your experience has to be demeaned by a habitual liar who only seeks the spotlight for himself.
Khan has to go “elsewhere.”
That means he’s going to switch nics again so he can more easily string a bunch of bogus stories together.
Why don’t you come back as a cowboy or spaceman this time, little boy?
Sherrie baby–
JR was one of the first post-ers on this blog.
If he and all the other lefties leave, you’ll be left with the lying blog-obsessed POS who calls himself Khan among a half dozen other nics.
Is that what you want?
Be careful what you wish for.
Little surprise to see GSheridan in support of the despicable dopple blogging RepubliKhan.
Probably she knows that without the presence of such distractions, she would be absolutely eviscerated here.
Thought you were gonna play nicer Sheri? This aint your fight. Stay outta it.
Khan spelled my name right. As for KU’s win? BOO! I’m a UT fan and despise KU. The only time I’d hope KU would win anything, including a tiddywink tourney is if they’re playing OU.
Hank,
Too little too late on the additional troops. A bit of deja vu.
Oh and WS?
raptor thanked me for defending him and explained his comment that you found so objectionable. I guess you did not see where he explained it?
It is on you to go look for it. Friday or Saturday’s open thread I think.
Personally? I accept his explanation. Further? Please do not take this wrong. Take it with the respect you say you have for me.
You GOTTA not look so hard for offense. Sometimes you can find it where it is not there if you are looking for it so hard. And WHEN you DO find it you cannot let it get at you so much.
I’ve been called just about anything and accused of just about everything you can imagine here. It’s a rough forum. But since the nastier shots usually come from people I have no respect for anyway? I hit back and go on.
Just my 2cents.
“This is why I hate RepubliKhan’s guts and why I want The Eagle to ban him.
Here’s P-Mom with a child who has MR. She’s pouring herself out by sharing her personal struggles with us.
Then we have a disruptive arrogant jerk who posts this LIE: “I have a cousin who has Downs Syndrome. He was brought up in a Christian home” blah blah lie lie lie . . . he will be 53 soon and in pretty good shape physically.”
That’s a strange way to describe someone suffering from Alzheimer’s Disease. “The neuropathologic findings related to AD have been described in all DS individuals older than 35 years.”
http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic552.htm
He has already exceeded the average lifespan for DS patients by 5 years, and he should definitely be exhibiting AD symptoms by now.
But Mr. I-Can’t-Help-Myself-from-Lying has to throw in a bullsh*t attention-getting story . . . ”
Sorry, but no Cap. You didn’t catch him in anything. People with Down Syndrome are quite varied, and while post mortem examinations of brains show the plaques consistent with Alzheimer’s disease, not all people with Down Syndrome are symptomatic for the disease in their later years, or not so symptomatic that they display significant loss of function. I’ve worked with people with developmental disabilities for over 20 years, including adults and even older adults. Having a cousin with Down Syndrome in his 50’s and doing well is not even close to being impossible. I’ve known several.
Okay, I thank you for your post, and I stand corrected, KSA.
Still, it’s not typical, is it?
That’s the thing with JM-Eier-Khan et al.
Everything is always just a little “too very,” if you know what I mean.
He’s always got the personal experience that is apropos to any occasion.