Kansas House members weren’t elected to be our state’s top law enforcement officials, and they haven’t reviewed the case against Wichita abortion doctor George Tiller, nor are they qualified to do so. So the last thing they should do is intervene in a criminal investigation and force Attorney General Paul Morrison to refile 30 misdemeanor charges against Tiller.
Yet the House Federal and State Affairs Committee approved a resolution Monday that would compel Morrison to file the charges. The measure now goes to the full House — which should reject it.
The resolution is being promoted by some anti-abortion activists and groups. But they don’t speak for the large majority of Kansans who voted for Morrison last November because they trust his judgment.
Morrison has a responsibility to carefully review the Tiller case, which he says his office is doing. And if there is evidence of a crime, he should work with Sedgwick County District Attorney Nola Foulston to file the appropriate charges, which he promises he will do.
But he shouldn’t file charges because of pressure from anti-abortion activists. And lawmakers shouldn’t interfere with the investigation because of that pressure. They need to stick to doing their own jobs.
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How many MISDEMEANOR cases does the AG normally prosecute?
Morrison doesn’t work for the People of Kansas, he works for his Democratic Campaign supporters and subsequent cronies. That’s reality.
Not sure if I agree with you on that assessment, Repub…but, even if it is true, I would rather have it that way than the previous AG who brought his personal religious agenda to work with him, and didn’t appear to care much for the law…
I agree with that Raptor. Agenda is one thing, broad based collusion to pervert justice policy is another.
I haven’t seen the evidence against Tiller. but if it is weak or non existence it seems a silly waste of tax dollars to force a trial only for him to walk.
Heavens to Betsy! Someone help Republican to the fainting couch. He smells POLITICS at work in the application of the law!!!
Republican, how can you be so thoroughly comfortable with the Bush Administration turning the Justice Department into a branch of the Republican Naitonal Committee, on one hand, and so outraged by your delusion that Morrison answers to Democratic supporters?
I agree with that Raptor. Agenda is one thing, broad based collusion to pervert justice policy is another.
Posted by: Republican | March 28, 2007 at 01:03 PM
In light of your stance on what the Bush Administration is doing to the federal Justice Department, your above comment qualifies as the single most bewildering flip flop in the history of mankind.
I am 100% for the right to abortion. It is a right that is as fundamental as the air we breathe. But even I draw the line before Tiller. Tiller is a killer period. He actually kills live babies and does 9th month abortions for no good reasons. Any abortion over 3 months shuld only be to save the life of the mother. Abortion prior to 3 months should be legal and easy to get on demand.
Did I hear a dog yapping?
You heard the voices in your head saying obviously contradictory things. You’re a hypocrite and you’re proud of it.
I posted this yesterday on the Gonzalez thread.
Interesting comparison between allegations against AG Gonzalez and our own Kansas AG Morrison.
It is alleged that Gonzalez had political motivations when his department fired Republican US Attorney, who work for and serve at the pleasure of the President.
It is alleged that Morrison failed to follow up on the prosecution of abortionist George Tiller, a political and financial supporter of Morrison’s for violating restrictions in Kansas law on late-term abortions.
I think Morrison’s course of action is clearly a much more serious violation of the public trust. Time will tell but it is justifiable that he start feeling some heat on this so he will know we are watching.
I made my first trip to the “other” blog today and found a thread on this by Steven Davis. You might be surprised at his thoughts.
“It is a right that is as fundamental as the air we breathe.”
Do you mean the air the baby doesn’t get the chance to breath?
Those are my principles. If you don’t like them I have others. :)
Those are my principles. If you don’t like them I have others. :)
Posted by: Republican | March 28, 2007 at 01:16 PM
It’s Wednesday, if knowing what day of the week helps you decide what you believe.
yap yap yap yap
Republican, care to respond to the contradiction between your stance on Morrison and your stance on Bush/Gonzales on the Federal Attorneys?
Kev,
What is the difference between a 2 month-3 week-6 days- and 23 hours old fetus and a 3 month old fetus?
Nathan-That would be death.
Sure brian, a Senate investigation concerning a charge that the firing of U.S. Attorneys is in no way similar or comparable to a State issue in Kansas regarding an Abortion Clinic and a possible violation of State law.
Happy now? :)
Fleet, Nathan, et al -What is the difference between a glass full of amino acids, a glass full of proteins, a glass full of cells, and a zygote?
(feel free to use google)
Republican,I am happy that I made a correct assumption of your capacity to debate a topic.
brian, did you just finish biology 101 or is this some sort of joke?:)
brian, I’m glad I convinced you stay on topic. :)
Brian,Answer: the zygote is a human being. The only way a zygote would cease being a human being (a life) is by abortion.
Brian – What is the definition of murder?
didn’t the eagle give kline advice on what to prosecute and what not to prosecute?
pretty silly editorial.
I like how media outlets call on politicians for flip-flopping but when they do it themselves, “hey man, its cool.”
If a fetus is viable outside the womb. That doesn’t even pass the logic test. The womb is a fetus’s environment. If I were to take an adult out of his environment, let’s say unprotected in space or underwater, would said adult survive? So that means at no time is a human, outside his/her environment, viable. So why stop at the womb?
Sol – why is a zygote a human being?
Obviously, murder is itentionally killing a human being.
However, the true debate on the topic Must be what is a human being. How is it defined? At what point does it go from proteins to Life? And Why?
According to evolutionary science, life is ooze that came forth from a slimey pool.
What most frequently happens when a human female’s egg is fertilized by a male’s sperm?
Unfortunately for the kooks, abortion is legal. Having failed big-time to alter the demand for abortions, the kooks are trying to intimidate the providers. Apparently it doesn’t matter to them how they attack them- lies, fraud, bombs, murder, it’s all for God!
SolDveVB,
What most frequently happens is that fertilized egg is flushed out of the human female during her next menstrual cycle.
Sol,”What most frequently happens when a human female’s egg is fertilized by a male’s sperm?”
What MOST frequently happens is that the fertilized egg fails to implant and is spontaneously aborted.
If amino acids and proteins are the same as dead babies, why do people object to the abortion van driving around with gross pictures on the side?
Sol,Answering questions with questions? I thought better of you.
Brian,My mistake. A zygote is a fertilized egg. Being as the topic is abortion, it seemed to me you would follow the flow. My mistake.
Fleetwood,Because it LOOKS so f’n gross it offends public sensibilities (and would be stopped for being a criminal obscenity of our politicians and police had any balls). Dead chickens or pigs displayed in a similar manner on the side of a van would not be allowed.
I really try to debate a topic, from a logical perspective.
I do want to know what you and others think constitutes a definition of a living human being and at what point you think life begins and why.
Condor and Jed your knowledge on reproductive science is astounding. When an egg is fertilized it becomes attached to the inside wall of the uterus – or at least I always was taught that is what happened. But I will defer to your superior knowledge because I can only assume that you have a heavy background in human anatomy. Many unfertilized eggs are washed away each month but I never knew that many fertilized eggs go that way also. Unbelievable!!
Brian,The pictures of the aftermath are offensive to you… but the act of ripping babies apart is just fine and dandy with you? Huh.
Brian an egg can be fertilized in a petrie dish and then implanted into the womb of a woman. AT that point life has been established unless it is sucked out, scraped out or otherwise disposed of. Left alone at that point it has all the components it needs to become a thinking, breathing human being.
Brian,If you aren’t serious, don’t read this anymore…If a fertilized egg attaches to the womb and left unmolested, the likelihood of birth is high. Ergo, when an egg is fertilized, I believe it to be a human being whether it attaches or not.
See the ‘viable’ post above.
brian,
The argument of what is life and what isn’t has yet to be resolved by Scientists, so it ends up in a Court of Law.
Examine the difficult family members have when they have a terminally ill relative with no brain wave activity and must make a decision to pull the plug. Sometimes the decision is fought over in a court of law by parties seeking to protect the patient.
However, it is proved that fetus at certain stages have brain wave activity, yet they are terminated by physicians without question. There appears to be a double standard in abortion when people want to protect a viable patient with brain waves.
“…the act of ripping babies apart is just fine and dandy with you?”
Seeing it makes it all so….(wait for it)…real.
Brian a point to consider when you are offended by this picture is to remember that little black puppy that had been burnt and tortured. The news media showed it over and over because they were trying to show the public how attrocious this type of behavior was. It worked. New laws were passed to protect animals from this type of torture.
Even though it has been proven that babies in the womb as early as 2-3 months feel pain we haven’t protected them. This picture is to show the reality of what abortion really is.
Brian, google ’silent scream’
The media showed the puppy over and over because it sold papers and commercials.Where is the breastfeeding van ksgrm? Some pictures of proper suckling would do a lot to promote public health? Would you object to that?
Brian: Not that this will do any good, but a zygote or a fetus is a stage in the life of a human being. You went through it. Were you not human when you did? If not, what were you? You had human DNA. Your form was human. Same as now.
I think that most people agree that life in the womb is human life and that abortion is a tragedy that should be reduced in number. The controversy lies in how this is to be accomplished and how far to go.
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I don’t think I will rent that movie Sol. Not because of the topic, but because of the graphic nature. I also will not watch ‘Saw’ for the same reason.
For the record, I have never stated whether I am for or against outlawing abortion.
Sol,I take it that you must be against in vitro fertilization? Your definition means that a person created life in a petri dish. In the process, many fertilized eggs are destroyed.
Brian,Silent Scream refers to the fetus ’screaming’ as it is pulled apart. Verified by several sonograms while aborting a fetus.
Outlander brings up a great point. I am pro-life, not just pro-birth. I think the system needs to provide for ‘unwanted pregnancies’. But I think there will never be an end to the mass murder until we can define a path to reduce the DESIRE to kill babies.
Up until now, the only thing I have been able to think of is preaching responsible sex, and educating those as to what abortion actually is.
As abortion intervenes in God’s plan for the creation of life, so does medicine intervene in God’s plan for the creation of death.
We play God all the time. Where is the line?
Brian,I am against the destruction of innocent children.
I never mentioned God. I would say the best practice is to err on the side of preserving life.
Silent Scream is a movie about an abortion where sonograms are used to show the apparent screaming and pain of the fetus as it is happening. Sounds pretty gruesome. Probably actually happens.
“…remember that little black puppy that had been burnt and tortured.”
Didn’t we already do this on the sculptor thread?
Brian I don’t mind having an intelligent conversation with someone who is actually looking for answers but I think you are trying to find a jump on place to support abortion. I firmly believe that government will never outlaw abortion. This is a personal decision and can’t be legislated.
I disagree about the dog argument you made. They were many demonstrations. Petitions circulated. It became the cause of the hour for many people. Don’t get me wrong. I love dogs and think a person who does this should be punished. My point is that an unborn baby is the weakest of the weak and we allow them to be killed right up until the day they would have been born.
I would like to offer a compromise between those who think life begins at contraception, and needs to be protected from that point on, and those who think an abortion is fine anytime.The compromise is this: We know for certain (at least we think we do) when life ends. It is that moment when certain types of brain activity cease. It is only at that point that organ harvesting may be considered. (By the way, they keep the body alive while doing this). I have been a either a participant or a family friend bystander in three of these positions. Anyway,since the abscence of life, commonly called death, can be established, let that be the point of decision. At the point those brainwaves can be registered, life begins, and must be protected. Period. Abortion prior to that point remains legal, and efforts should be made by everyone to reduce to need for them. After that point, however, abortion becomes criminal except perhaps in the most dire circumstances. How about it? Can we go with that?By the way, the legislation should stay out of Morrisons’s hair and let him do his job.
“By the way, the legislation should stay out of Morrisons’s hair and let him do his job.”
I don’t think he has hair.
Don’t,Not to pick… but it is kind of funny… “life begins at contraception”
Sorry, I have more typos than anyone here. Just wish mine were that funny. I know what you ment.
The flaw I personally find with that is that when an adult’s brainwaves end and nothing is done about it, the adult continues to be dead. If a fetus is left alone, it will continue to live.
Just my opinion.
Let’s apply a test here:
The precautionary principle is a moral and political principle which states that if an action or policy might cause severe or irreversible harm to an individual, in the absence of a scientific consensus that harm would not ensue, the burden of proof falls on those who would advocate taking the action.
In this case, the burden of proof falls on those taking the action causing the harm to a fetus.
So take the argument from there.
But keep in mind that the Supreme Court has removed precautionary principle on Roe V. Wade because they removed the consequence as applied to rights of the mother over the rights of fetus.
Now argue the removal of consequence as it applies to the precautionary principle. :)
Ksgrm: ‘The news media showed it over and over because they were trying to show the public how attrocious this type of behavior was.’brian: ‘The media showed the puppy over and over because it sold papers and commercials.’Ksgrm: ‘I disagree about the dog argument you made.’
I argued that the media showed it because it was popular, not because the media wanted to make people think the behavior is bad. You disagree with that?
You did not say whether you thought a breastfeeding van was a good idea? It is also something that would promote the public interest but would offend some people. Should naked breasts with babies feeding be allowed to be on the side of a van?
“But they don’t speak for the large majority of Kansans who voted for Morrison last November because they trust his judgment.” Phillip Brownlee
From the sour grapes dept.
Phillip, you surely don’t believe that the reason that Morrison won was not because Kansas trust his judgment; how could they when Tiller is his close political ally? The voters simply did not trust Phill Kline. And The Eagle and the KC Star had a big part in forming that public opinion with their blatant anti-Kline vendetta.
So now it is your civic duty to make sure that Morrison does not give Tiller any special treatment because of their political ties. Are you up to the task?
don’t,that is a very reasonable stance
Brian not sure why you are bringing God into this argument. Many on the left try this. It isn’t a relegions issue. It is an issue of humanity. Either we as a civilization recognize that human life is valuable or we lose part of our own humanity. This is a large part of the problem with the terrorists we are currently fighting. They put no value on life. They send their children, wifes, parents out with bombs attached to kill as many of the infidels they consider their enemy – that’s me and you by the way – with no respect for the sanctity of life.
Many people who are against abortion are Christians but many are not. They recognize that as a civilization we must remain above animals who don’t usually kill their young.
It has been a LONG time since I have read Roe v Wade, but as I recall one of the tenants behind the decision was that there was no concensus about when life begins. This compromise would use a scientific principle to define when life begins, which would be the opposite of when it ends.I do understand that there would be “life” even by this defintion, if no invervention came into play to prevent it. i just think we need to find a principle that we can all reasonably live by, then work on reducing the need of abortion, instead of screaming at each other about how wrong or okay it is.
The emotional level of the comments demonstrate exactly why this should be a matter of law, and not politics/emotions/legislative vote, etc. If the law is bad, then it needs to be addressed through normal channels. But, having the legislature attempting to “instruct” the AG is not how it is done under our state constitution.
Not taking sides here one way or the other..I just think it should be up to a legal interpretation, and the head of the legal department in this state is Paul Morrison.
Brian when you are selective in your posting and take a statement out of context you could give a very different view than what the author meant.
KSGRM Earlier Post:I disagree about the dog argument you made. They were many demonstrations. Petitions circulated. It became the cause of the hour for many people. Don’t get me wrong. I love dogs and think a person who does this should be punished. My point is that an unborn baby is the weakest of the weak and we allow them to be killed right up until the day they would have been born.”
I don’t have a problem with a van promoting breast feeding. Not sure why you are so fixated on that. Abortions happen. Some people think that the real truth of what happens needs to be presented to the public.
I guess if you think that people need a picture of a woman breast feeding you could make your argument. I really don’t think the public need this pictorial but go for it.
Condor and Jed your knowledge on reproductive science is astounding. When an egg is fertilized it becomes attached to the inside wall of the uterus – or at least I always was taught that is what happened. But I will defer to your superior knowledge because I can only assume that you have a heavy background in human anatomy. Many unfertilized eggs are washed away each month but I never knew that many fertilized eggs go that way also. Unbelievable!!
Posted by: ksgrm | March 28, 2007 at 02:07 PM
Now you know. It is very common, and the reason that women have to be careful what they eat and drink if they want to get pregnant is not because the egg isn’t getting fertilized, but because the egg isn’t implanting itself in the uterus.
Condor and Jed your knowledge on reproductive science is astounding. When an egg is fertilized it becomes attached to the inside wall of the uterus – or at least I always was taught that is what happened. But I will defer to your superior knowledge because I can only assume that you have a heavy background in human anatomy. Many unfertilized eggs are washed away each month but I never knew that many fertilized eggs go that way also. Unbelievable!!
Posted by: ksgrm | March 28, 2007 at 02:07 PM
Now you know. It is very common, and the reason that women have to be careful what they eat and drink if they want to get pregnant is not because the egg isn’t getting fertilized, but because the egg isn’t implanting itself in the uterus.
The legislators can say “investigate”, Morrison can say “eat me”. Either one is fine, but both have the right to say it.
TDT do you have a medical background? I am always cautious of the experts I believe. Not that I doubt you – just wondering about your credentials.
Folks, the issue here is a legal one, not a moral one.
And whatever one may believe on the issue of abortion, it is not up to the legislature to make prosecution decisions. The legislature should simply butt out and let the AG do his job.
the fundelmentalist lost and now the last hold outs to kick out of office think they have the right to order everyone around. send the conservitive wacko’s back to their farms to raise pigs and keep their women bare foot and pregnant.
Whine~ “wacko’s back to their farms to raise pigs and keep their women bare foot and pregnant.”
Thanks for that oh-so-insightful analysis. Really, I guess you just settled the entire debate.
GMC70__”Folks, the issue here is a legal one, not a moral one.
And whatever one may believe on the issue of abortion, it is not up to the legislature to make prosecution decisions. The legislature should simply butt out and let the AG do his job.”
Well said.
I’m applauding GMC. It still comes down to if you don’t want an abortion don’t get one.
However, Ksgrm, you made this telling statement about ‘become’ which I read as in the future, but not at that point.”Left alone at that point it has all the components it needs to become a thinking, breathing human being.”
While we are letting the antiabortion wackos drive the fetus van around let’s also have the gay sex van, s&m van, and every other type of fetish, behavior, and happening on the side of a van. These things happen and surely they would be allowed on the streets. I mean they are just trying to educate the public.
Your argument for the van does not hold any water.
No matter how you think about this subject none of us is going to change anyone else’s mind, so let’s just agree to disagree and move on.I believe the topic was…who has the responsibility for enforcing laws? The AG, not the legislature.
“it has all the components it needs to become a thinking, breathing human being.”
So, since a sperm and an egg have those components I must see to it that they meet.
“…let’s also have the gay sex van, s&m van, and every other type of fetish, behavior, and happening on the side of a van.”
That makes no sense. Are you drunk?
It makes sense though I may have mistyped. The fetus van is ok, so let’s put all other behaviors, fetishes, and other types of happenings on vans.
And for the record no I am not drunk. But thanks for asking.
“The fetus van is ok,…”
So, are you wanting to get banned the behavior of which you (drunkenly) speak?
Let’s just leave it up to our politicians to decide who gets prosecuted, and who doesn’t. The hell with if they broke the law.
I don’t understand how abortions will be able to continue to go on-i thought it was or will be made a crime to kill an unborn child from fertilization and upward because of that Chelsea Brooks case….
CABLE CHANNEL 22 at 6:30
MAYOR DEBATE !
fleettwood – a question: Just what does your “(drunkenly)” add to the discussion?
weyreth raises a point similar to the one that came up regarding the F*** War bumper sticker. Is there a point where the message is no longer the issue but the language (or graphics) becomes the issue.
Gee, as soon as human cloning becomes practical, every cell becomes a potential human life. I can just see all those christians busy collecting the 10,000 or so cells they shed each day and sending them off to be cultured. Each one, at 10,000 babies a day, is going to have an awful lot of child support to pay!
As part of his 2006 campaign for KS AG, Paul Morrison raised $1.9 million. If you look at the many pages of .pdf files that list all of Morrison’s donations, one will not see one cent of money donated by George Tiller or ProKanDo – Tiller’s pack – to Morrison’s campaign.
ProKanDo likely formed a non-profit corp. that sent out the now famous “snoop-dog” attack mailings which were critical of Kline’s attempts to obtain medical records of abortion doctors.
KSMeadowLark has this info available on his Salina Blog if you are interested. If info you are interested in is not archived at his blog, I am sure KSML can tell you how to find it. He is an expert on campaign financing and where relevent info can be found on the internet.
pack = pac
FTR~ just for the record, theres a gazillion ways to donate money where a PAC is hidden.
“So, are you wanting to get banned the behavior of which you (drunkenly) speak?”
ben- He never made sense.
“so let’s put all other behaviors, fetishes, and other types of happenings on vans.”
What does that have to do with showing people what abortion looks like? As I recall, it was the Libs who had no problem with the obscene bumper sticker.
“But they don’t speak for the large majority of Kansans who voted for Morrison last November because they trust his judgment.” Phillip Brownlee
Perhaps the voters were swayed by the anti-Kline reporting in the Wichita Eagle. There were also political mailings that even the Wichita Eagle reported today were paid for by a group that appeared to share an address with a Tiller-sponsored political action committee.
http://www.kansas.com/211/story/30371.html
Where do we draw the line to protect unborn children?
Other than stopping abortion, what things are we willing to do to protect them? Whatever is needed to give them the best chance to be born healthy?
Thank you ksgrm for pointing out the real issue here. The legislature has no business telling the AG what he should be doing. I wonder are the same legislators spoken of here the ones that put Phil Kline in a position of prosecuting criminals when he has so little experience doing so? Be afraid be very afraid.
Damn activist legislators anyway. Any idea which party they represent?
I do not much about abortion except that it is just tissues, a part of a body, just like hair, fingernails etc. until it develops intelligence.As soon as I figure out what level of intelligences are the beginnings of a soul and heart with consciences awareness, then I will decide the difference of maintenance or murder.At the mean time, the acts of abortion can be comparable to obsessive-compulsive behavior, because that is what a lot people seems to make regards to as a solution to their dilemma.
Wow, what a debate! And such clear divisions!
It seems Mr. Morrison must decide which side he should be on….
Should he side with the group that treats a fetus as sacred that must not be molested under any circumstances until it is born? Then it is dumped into a cruel world and must make it with little help from anyone but it’s parents, crawling up the ladder to adulthood by it’s own strength and wit with no safety net in substandard schools. Then they will grow up to be good Republicans and tell others to make it on their own or go …. themselves.
Or maybe he will side with those who see the living, breathing person as more important than potential life, sometimes sacrificing the unborn for the convenience of the living, although they seem to make it a priority to see that our young people have the best possible chance to be vital, caring adults that view others with compassion.
Which side is right? Or are both sides wrong? Or are both partially right?
There is no doubt that under 2 weeks it is NOT a baby. It is a fetus and a fetus is just a clump of cells.
If the people who want to control others lives believe that a fertilized egg is a human being then why dont they protest at fertilization clinics which destroy thousands of fertilized eggs every year?
The answer is its not about abortion, its about sex. They dont want anyone having sex outside holy matrimony. I think its a little too late for that and always has been.
Very good point druid.
Any anti-abortion folk care to explain why they do not protest outside fertilization clinics? I don’t have the numbers (yet) but I am certain many times more fertilized eggs are destroyed there than at abortion clinics.
I’ll say it again, because it’s no less true now than a day or so ago. It will be ignored in the endless debate over abortion, but here is the relevant fact anyway:
Folks, the issue here is a legal one, not a moral one.
And whatever one may believe on the issue of abortion, it is not up to the legislature to make prosecution decisions. The legislature should simply butt out and let the AG do his job.
Simple enough. And the truth.
Kev,About the 2-week time thing: “There is no doubt that under 2 weeks it is NOT a baby. It is a fetus and a fetus is just a clump of cells.” I wonder how many pregnancies are only confirmed after the woman skips her period, which let’s just say putting the pregnancy at 6th week.
Brian,Again, this point has been made to you over and over again. A fertilized egg, bound to a mother’s womb, left unmolested will most likely be born.Abortion is the direct and deliberate termination of said life. Clear enough?
GMC makes a good point – but so does sol. I think what is needed is a combination of improved support for the ‘life choice’ and then efforts to encourage making that choice. Entities like Gerard House for example; also cleaning up adoption laws to make them more effective.
I see things like this and want to cry:
http://www.kansas.com/219/story/31333.html
Police look for mother of 3 babies left behindDNA tests establish three babies abandoned at 11-month intervals were born to the same mother.
Everyone gets a warm fuzzy over babies. So let’s look at the OTHER end of the spectrum. How many people are equally concerned with how ‘life’ is treated at the end? ie: How are we treating old folks that can care for themselves? Where is the concern for the end of life?
Excellent points Ben. We need to offer guilt free options to young girls and women before they become desperate. Teaching, birth control, and checkups should be free to those that need them. IMHO. Real viable options to abortion must be available to all if you want less abortions.
can = can’t.
I think y’all are right. We need to promote responsible sex — RESPONSIBLE SEX – not just abstinence. In Michigan, it costs between 40k and 60k to adopt. Most of that goes to the state and some to the feds. Why is it so expensive to adopt? Even at those rates, there is a several year waiting list.
I don’t think we have a problem with finding homes for ‘unwanted children’. We just need to make a better path between the mothers of these children and the families that await them.
SolD thank you for sharing your Opinion of when life begins.
“Law & Order” will have to adopt a new lead in ‘There’s five elements to the Justice System, The police that enforce the laws, the Prosecutor, who answers to the legislature or Administration, as the case may be, and the Judge.”
AG Morrison was not elected by Kansans who trust his judgment. He was elected by Kansans hit by fancy political mailings funded by bloodstained abortion mill money, from profits for mangling, dismembering, poisoning, and beheading babies. The evidence says, according to 2 judges, that Tiller illegally killed post-viable babies, like the ones you see coming home from neo-natal intensive care units in hospitals. Morrison is stalling while Tiller continues scheduling illegal post-viable abortions, according to eyewitnesses at his abortion mill parking lot.No more stalling. Get the handcuffs for Tiller, NOW.
Parkay, so Tiller is now performing abortions in a parking lot?
LMAO
And who are the two judges? I know about Yost, but who is the other one? When was the probable cause hearing?