A voter is less likely to back a candidate who is “over the age of 72, a Mormon, twice divorced or a smoker” than a candidate who is black or a woman, according to a Washington Post/ABC News poll. That spells good things for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., but means more work for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who turns 72 in 2008; former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who is a Mormon; and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who married to his third wife. But where does it leave Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., who is a smoker trying to kick the habit?
Posted by Ross Stewart
NOTE: Ross is another intern who has started in the editorial department. He is a WSU journalism student.
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Obama Winfrey, Hollyweird’s freshman Senator/idol is lacking in enough areas to effectively eliminate him from the Oval Office, and none of them have to do with smoking.
Smoking doesn’t determine the quality of an individual – or at least it shouldn’t.
I’m not surprised that the health police have brainwashed the mentally-weak in America into thinking so – but wouldn’t it be more appropriate to give an IQ test to voters, than to allow the intellectually-bankrupt to vote in the first place?
Oh wait – I forgot – if we did that – there wouldn’t be any voters left in the Democrat Party.
LOL
….carry on…..
More vandalism from a verifiable LIAR.
Once again, TRACY-LEW is unable to intellectually address the post – so he attacks the poster.
The trademark of one with less than average intellect.
’nuff said.
Who cares about black smokers. They’re going to be a drain on our social welfare dollars whether they smoke or not.
Who the hell cares if he smokes… Thats his problem… He says hes trying to quit than let him… Hes not smoking while on stage or in a school or anywhere in in public, so whats the big deal???
Obama is black?
Ross Stewart: Welcome to the world of make believe.
Welcome, Ross!
Piece of advice–the liberals on this blog will think you’re too conservative, but that’s okay because liberals believe in free speech (as long as it’s not hate speech).
The conservatives will think you’re too liberal, and they will use every kind of personal slander and vituperation to shout you down and shut you up.
Because they don’t believe in free speech. They believe in the medieval idea that they have the truth and that anyone who doesn’t have their “truth” is an apostate who should be burned at the stake.
They only believe in “free” speech when it’s speech that agrees with them.
And if you don’t believe it, ask the old-timers at The Eagle why they didn’t run the recently deceased Molly Ivins for the last several years of her life . . .
The 8:20 post by capn tells the new (and White) Mr. Stewart a lot about our Lib friends. Say one thing, then do another.Denounce “hate” speech, then start hating.Thanks, capn. You said it better than we could.
Capn – a part of MANY newspapers making a decision NOT to run Ivins stemmed from accusations that she plagiarized.
We don’t get George Will, either.
GS–Ivins wasn’t dropped for plagiarism here–she was dropped by howls of outrage from the reich wing.
Fleetwood whines about not getting George Will and he gets Cal Thomas twice a week, values boy Castillo on Sundays, and Kathleen Parker right-wing idiot once a week.
Yeah . . . you can see how the poor right-wing is getting so muzzled . . .
It’s on the Democrats. The radical left-wing is in control of the primaries now.
It has nothing to do with black, women, religion, or any minority, regardless of their guilt factor.
They are looking for the candidate who can stomp on Republicans and move this country towards leftist socialism.
I didn’t say we were muzzled.You see, I don’t buy in to the whole “I’m a victim” deal.
Capn – I don’t know why the Eagle dropped her, but other papers dumped her when the plagiarism allegations surfaced.
Rightly, or wrongly, newspapers don’t want to be subjected to lawsuits.
I don’t take the Eagle, but the resident writers seem to slant towards the left, even the blog starters lean in that direction.
If by “leftist socialism,” you mean health care for all American children, ending wars without end based on lies, protecting Social Security, requiring companies to live up to their pension promises, and helping the middle class get some of the productivity gains they earned, then YES, Joe, that’s exactly what we want.
GS–name one nationally syndicated columnist that the Eagle runs who could be considered left of center.
And for heaven’s sake, don’t say David Broder.
Also, Joe W., our “leftist socialist” agenda also includes using gov’t to develop green energy sources.
For the price of a month in Iraq, we could be building a nuclear FUSION reactor that generates power from WATER like France is doing . . .
Leonard Pitts and Tom Teppen
Hahahaha! Good one, Fleetie, good one.
Well, a quick google and a little wicki love turned up this about Molly Ivins and her alleged “plagiarism”. It comes from… wait for it…. THE AEI!!!
“In 1995, humorist Florence King wrote in a The American Enterprise column that Ivins had plagiarized King’s work and mis-stated a quotation from a King column in a 1988 Mother Jones article.
David Rubien, writing in Salon, described the incident: “In a 1995 article for Mother Jones on Southern manners and mores, she extensively quoted, with affectionate attribution, statements from Florence King’s book Southern Ladies and Gentlemen.
But for some careless reason Ivins still fails to comprehend, she left the attribution off a few King statements.
Ivins apologized in a letter to King. King published Ivins’s apology and her own reply in a later article.
So, to paraphrase little miss fossil fuels, is the right wingnut mentality so demented that they have to trash a dead person?
Face it. The WE wont run good writers unless their kansas taliban masters approve it. Or the Koch brothers and their little dog Karl Peterjohn.
…poor reich wingers. It is just damn tough to be them right now. It really is too bad that the TRUTH and the FACTS lean left.
So when the truth and the facts are reported, of course the reich wing howls. It is what they do best.
Just visit freeperville some day if you dont believe me.
And if you want a great take on the reich wing mind, Dan Savage is glad to take you on a guided tour. You have to click the links inside the links to read it. But the comments are priceless.
heheheh. And the righties will wet the bed if they have to go to DU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×308288
Capn – I already said that I don’t take the Eagle. I’m just pointing out why OTHERS dropped Ivins. I don’t know who the columnists are, or are not.
Please post some of the papers that dropped Molly because of the AEI allegations.
Do your own research, farmie. You could use the education.
Uh, again, no clue about blogs.
You made the assertion GS. YOU back it up.
I dont believe it is true. Prove that what you said isnt a lie. Your credibility does not allow us to take your word for anything.
If you cant list ANY papers that dropped Molly for that reason, I’d say we busted you AGAIN in a lie on this blog.
You constantly say shit you cant back up. Why would anyone think this is anything different? You have a patter of doing this.
I’d say your allegation that newspapers (plural) dropped Molly because the AEI said so, is just another blog fart from you.
Fleets enema are you actually going to start parroting Golfnut?
Perhaps you two should hook up?
Never know what you might choose to do.
I think it’s pathetic that so many people are concerned on whether or not someone smokes! Non smokers- get over yourselves for god’s sake. Pull the underwear out of your throat.
heheheh. And as for “Obama Winfrey”…
Ooooooo. Boogy boogy boogy. I am sure that slur is really driving voters away from Obama.
I’m sure his campaign is having strategy meetings about that slur even as we speak.
hehehehehe.
NOT!
RE: Molly Ivins
“Occasional plagiarism and copying of paragraphs and content from the Washington Post, New York Times and other sources; plagiarism of Florence King’s Southern Ladies and Gentlemen in a 1988 Mother Jones article on “Magnolias and Moonshine”; Lifting of unique phrases from other authors without attribution such as Clive James’ description of Arnold Schwarzenegger as “a condom stuffed with walnuts”"
We have a “president” that is a “reformed” cokehead, a “recovered” alcoholic and people or worried that Barack smokes?
I guess the Republicans have to stoop to something – anything.
I guess the next thing is going to be an attack on his ears.
Whoops! Some of the wingnuts on this blog have already done that…
Post your link, Fleet, so we can judge the origins for ourselves.
Obama can quit smoking but McCain will still be old, Guiliani will still be incompetent, have his divorces, including a marriage with a first cousin, and Brownback will still be insane.
The only decent candidate the Rethuglicans have this year is Gov. Huckabee, and that isn’t saying much.
http://www.famousplagiarists.com/journalism.htm
“I am drunk and you are ugly. In the morning, I will be sober, but you will still be ugly.”
Winston Churchill to the wife of a member of Parliment that accosted him about his intoxication.
Well, Fleet….. you forgot to post this part of the article.
“Results:
Cynical jabs from fellow journalists and political pundits (”leftoid . . . Texan gag bandit”)a letter to the Editor now and then from an alert reader; wrote a letter of apology to Florence King for unacknowledged lifting.”
It does not support your hero, GSher’s, claim that papers dropped Molly for plagerism.
You also failed to mention the accused right wingers including your fave, Ann Coulter.
As usual, right wing distortion.
Fleetie, that’s all very nice but…
…I asked for the number of papers that DROPPED Molly for her alleged plagiarism. That is what GS said.
If you are going to defend her bullshit, you need to do so on the correct question.
Are people trying to defend Ivin’s plagiarism? It would be your model of defending the indefensible.
“defending the indefensible”
Defending the indefensible, Fleet?
You defend the indefensible every day that you post. You defend every action of Bush, Cheney, Rice, Tenent, Roberts, Brownback, Tiahrt, et al, and you have the nerve so suggest that because I post the balance of the article concerning Molly Ivins that I AM defending the indefensible?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.
Fleetie, real slow for you now.
First, post where I have defended plagiarism.
Second, I’m still waiting for you to defend GS’s statement that PAPERS DROPPED MOLLY because of those “ALLEGATIONS”.
nice try at dodging the question though. we are amused, and we do encourage you to try again.
RE: famousplagiarists.com ………Sure seems like alot of those instances come from the New York Times and washington Post. Even the Boston Globe.Hmmm…… could it be that LibFib Print cares more about the smear than about the truth? Who cares if it’s true, as long as it advances their causes???
Yeah, Sanford, like that well known liberal, Ann Coulter.
Still waiting for the list of all those papers that dropped Molly…
I didn’t say ALL of them, now did I?Just a disproportinatelly high # of ‘em.
Actually, Sanford, in reviewing the list, I would say that it is pretty evenly mixed between right and left – sort of like the general US population.
Thanks for that source, FleetStreet.
http://www.famousplagiarists.com/indexnames.htm
However, you neglected to list the other plagiarists they had on file:
Ann Coulter–chunks of text in Coulter’s articles/book seem to have been lifted from sources including previously published newspaper articles. The matching snippets of text were found using the standard cheat detection software employed by Turnitin.com to catch student plagiarists, and, indeed, Turnitin CEO John Barrie described Coulter’s alleged copying as “textbook plagiarism”.
Jack Kelly–right-wing reporter for USA TODAY who said that heads blown off of Israelis were still “blinking their eyes . . . ”
Tony Blair–“Sexing up” the war dossiers to build support for war in Iraq, at least one dossier including extensive plagiarism. Fabrication of intelligence and/or reliance on faulty intelligence, including a plagiarized war dossier in support of war against Iraq
KSGrrl–
Obviously, they got NO papers who dropped Molly for plagiarism.
If they did, they would have gleefully posted them by now.
The Eagle dropped Molly for one reason only–they caved to the vociferous reich-wing who couldn’t stand to read the truth.
…and where oh where was values boy today?
Someone mentioned the Sunday edition? Has he been moved to his proper place? Or did he go skiing with golfnutz? Maybe they were both choosing to be straight at the same time? Maybe fleetie went with them and all THREE of them chose not to be gay together?
heheheheheheh
Where oh where was values boy today? It’s just not thursday without a dose of that old time religion, er, propaganda….
Capn, you think maybe little miss fossil fuels has once again let her alligator mouth overload her tadpole brain on the Molly being dropped issue?
And fleetie jumped into her pile of crap to save her and he suffocated in it too?
heheheh Say it isnt so….
Notice how when you define “leftist socialism” by the programs that a vast majority of Americans want–Social security and health care for instance–the reich wing clams up all of a sudden.
Sucks to be them.
Is it just me, or do any of my other friends think Ross is kinda milfy?
Dang Capn, made me get out the dictionary! Try to use only one big word at a time will ya? You’re confusing the righties.
So now GS wants to give IQ tests for voters? My aren’t we clever today. Obama is known to be a compromiser to get things done. Perhaps this is why the Republicans are scared of him? The majority of the voters, even if GS doesn’t feel these people have the right to vote, do want our political leaders to stop all this infighting and start doing their jobs of governing. Lack of ovdersight of the Bush Administration has brought us to the point of war and Bush is still knocking on Iran’s war looking for yet another war we can ill afford to fight.
We need fresh ideas and if that comes in the form of Obama, then so be it. After all, each American citizen is guaranteed one vote, even if GS doesn’t ‘approve’.
Man, I only got through about ten comments before it struck me, the right-wingers on here are sick people. They just make shit up to try to rile up the liberal posters. Really horrible, horrible uneducated ignorant ‘people’ (I’m being very generous in that description). They would make a nice fit in a mental hospital, where they could froth with each other. Pathetic loons that they are.