Good for the National Association of Evangelicals for standing up to James Dobson (in photo), Tony Perkins, Gary Bauer and other Christian conservatives who claimed that the association was “using the global warming controversy to shift the emphasis away from the great moral issues of our time, notably the sanctity of human life, the integrity of marriage and the teaching of sexual abstinence and morality to our children.”
The real problem is that some conservative Christians want to define evangelism by a few social issues while ignoring other issues that aren’t aligned with their political affiliations. But as association vice president Rich Cizik responded, “We (evangelicals) should be primarily concerned with what the Gospel says, not whether you’re getting off some political train.”
Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne thinks this could be a defining shift for evangelicals. “Those are the words of a New Reformation,” he wrote. “Many evangelicals are boarding a new train. It runs along tracks defined by the broad demands of their faith, not by some party’s political agenda.”
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I agree! If you are in the religous business, it’s best to stay in that realm. Trying to mix religion and politics is like oil and water.
Conservatives are not really Christians anyway. They are so out of tune with the gospel of Jesus that they always quite Old Testament stuff. Do you think Jesus would really advocate starting wars, killing people, cutting children off from food or medical care to give huge tax breaks to the rich? There is no place in Heaven for a conservative. Few if any Republicans will be there. Remember that Jesus himself threw all the Republicans out of his temple.
Saving the planet should be in every religion’s 11 Commandments.
Because there are only two political parties in power, how could any group/coalition not end up endorsing a particular agenda or party? Even if it’s opposed on some of the minor issues.
Maybe if the news media broadened their coverage of politics to all serious candidates. . .
Right on Phillip! It is always challenging as Christians to know when and how to take stands on important issues without getting distracted from the central message of the Gospel of Christ. We could all make a list of the “disputable matters” (Rom 14:1) that are important to us, but can we love one another enough to lay them aside for the greater good.
No place in heaven for a conservative? Jesus threw out Republicans? Hey Kev, in case you missed it, Republicans and Democrats didn’t exist until slightly AFTER the first century. But thanks for playing.
Since when did the National Evangelical Association become the spokesperson’s for Christians? Exactly. It isn’t.
When will the press stop looking at organizations like this that 99% of Christendom has no affiliation with?
The “New Train” is a group of believers who don’t affiliate with anyone but Christ and are living out a life that is impacting this world out of a desire for love instead of scalps.
Kev, you gave me a chuckle this AM, so it can’t be all bad. I suppose your post was in jest, after all, deciding that your selective interpretation of “what Jesus REALLY meant,” was, after all, no different than the evangelicals, the RCC, or any other cult deciding that they, too, have cornered the market on His intent. lol
First, I have to say that I highly doubt He existed – but secondly, His words, when interpreted by those with their own agenda – have lead to slaughters of massive proportions. Consider the Matthew version of the parable of Talents, in the couplet where Jesus tells his listeners to go get those who will not allow Him to rule over them – and bring them in front of Him – and slay them. “They,” in that instance, were Pharisees, the ancestors of modern-day Jews. Hitler used that very passage, as he ALSO used Jesus’ own words that the Jews were the children of the Devil.
In today’s world, Democrats have made inroads into controlling the business of exchanging foreign currency. That makes them ALSO an equivalent to the Money Changers of old. At any rate – it’s as good an assessment as yours was.
There are enough Jesus quotes to go around so just about any Liberal or Conservative can pull some out selectively and use them to bolster their own platform.
And they do. All the time.
Typical Liberal Democratic Thinking.
Put any and every thing in a box, so you can use your bag of attacked dog talking points later.
And mind you, once you have been branded, you are no longer human and subject to any kind of attack.
“In today’s world, Democrats have made inroads into controlling the business of exchanging foreign currency. That makes them ALSO an equivalent to the Money Changers of old. At any rate – it’s as good an assessment as yours was.”
That rates as the silliest thing I’ve read this morning.
Religion and politics have ALWAYS and will always mix.Slavery vs abolition.Prohibition vs repeal.Civil rights.Anti war movements.
Now, what I see is that the Catholic Church is ineffective at politics. Ineffective largely because it is so big. Ineffective because issues such as welfare spending and defense and war are ambiguous and subject to interpretation.Ineffective because liberal priests try to assert moral authority for every opinion they have.What is the morally correct amount of food stamps a person should receive?What is the morally correct amount of taxes everyone can pay?The above, regardless of your views, cant be answered in a yes or now or a precise figure.Are most abortions moral?Is Gay Marriage moral?Regardless of your views, these questions lend themselves to a yes or a no.—–Global warming is even less concrete than taxes, war and social spending.1.) Is global warming real?2.) Is man the primary cause of any warming?3.) Can man stop any such warming?4.) Is the cost of action worth any projected outcome?5.) Can the United States solve this “problem” by itself?6.) If international action is necessary, how do we convince the poor countries of the world to skip industrial revolution and starve their people for this limo-liberal cause? Are we willing to war to enforce carbon treaties? Why would international law be more effective here than it has been in the war on drugs or arms trades?—–By mixing “global warming” with religion you are actually watering down two religions.
Global warming fanatics are already a religion unto themselves, completely immune to logic, reason or alternative explanations.
Not sure about GW fanatics being immune to logic Econ101,
but agree that immune to reason or alternative explanation.
GW fanatics just won’t hear anything else but their own preachings.
And, you are right, their “Science” has become a religion, they not only have a head Pastor in the form of Al Gore, the have a blind, loyal following with zero tolerance for anyone with their own opinion.
I could be the greenest Environmentalist on the Planet, and if I said one word against GW, I would be hung and dried as a Heretic.
Seems to me that the Kyoto accords were an attempt to internatinalize the climate issues confronting all nations… But Prez Bushie rejected those ideals… NO the USA cannot do anything ALONE to halt Global Warming… Maybe nobody can… But we can do things to help our Environment.. and we have done some things… But we CAN and MUST do more…
NOBODY is saying that GW is caused by human beings… That would be just stupid… What people are TRYING to say is that human beings can stop ADDING to an already existing problem…
Put away your RUSH/HANNITY/BECK talking points, and actually LISTEN to what the GW advocates are saying… I am getting really annoyed by people taking Talk Radio/TV hosts’ words as Official Doctrine on about EVERYTHING!!! It’s time to shut these loud mouth bigots up once and for all!!
I’m getting really annoyed with people think that anyone annoyed with GW Gestapo tactics listens to Bush, Hannity.
You act like no one has a brain, Chas. Some of us are completely independent and very capable of our own rational thoughts and ideas.
Well, except for cartoon philosophy and I rely heavily on the Cartoon Network and Nickleodeon. :)
ChazCheck your facts.Kyoto was REJECTED by a Democrat Congress, under Clinton!Also, When Kyoto was first proposed, the projections from the UN, on “climate change” were much worse than the recent UN revisions!
Not to step on anyone toes Econ101, but wasn’t the Congress under Clinton, Republican?
The Byrd ammendment on the Kyoto accord rejected the accord unless it was binding on unindustrialized countries as well as the industrialized countries. They just wanted it to be more stringent.
Was that the finger pointing event at China Steve?
The leftists of the world are using Kyoto and Global Warming as a way to bring down America.Including “developing countries” in the Kyoto Treaty defeated the real purpose of that Treaty.That is why the Treaty failed!And it was first proposed in a Democrat Congress.Check the dates!Republicans took Congress in 1994!http://www.heritage.org/Research/EnergyandEnvironment/em559.cfm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol
My apologies!I thought it came up in Clintons first 2 years, even so, a majority of Democrats in Congress voted Kyoto down!Also, American Labor Unions oppose Kyoto!
Yes, because baby killers (Democrats)are certainly welcomed with open arms in the kingdom of heaven. Especially when they will not admit to their sin and the need for a Savior. Yes, that’s the Liberal dogma of the 21st Century.Thanks for spouting what we already knew was the true belief.
“whatever you’ve done to the least of these you’ve done to me”
A correct statement would be:Clinton NEVER submitted the Kyoto Treaty to Congress!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol#United_States
A vote for the Byrd-Hagel Amendment was a vote against Kyoto.There is NO WAY that the world will Amend Kyoto to force China and the 3rd world to participate!
Kyoto = outsourcing US jobs!
Kyoto will split the Democrats wide open. This is why Clinton made peace with the greens by illegally signing Kyoto (non-binding, never ratified) but at the same time, NEVER brought Kyoto up for a vote!
It’s about time that Conservative Christains come out of the fog to see that there are other social issues that are of greater concern than those a few leaders are concern with. I have always maintianed that many of those leaders are politically motivated by the present administration. Mainly, due to no concrete plan to run this country. From what I’ve seen George Bush and his ilk have used the Christian movement to further his adgenda, which has shown to be nothing more than a smoke screen. Good for the Christian movement for finally wakeing up!
It’s about time that Republicans and Democrats alike, including the Bill Clinton who did not send Kyoto to the Senate for ratification, realize that being The World’s Greatest Superpower means that we can influence other countries and that—wait for it–we SHOULD influence other countries for obvious good.Kyoto is such a case; although China and India are wrongly exempted, getting them included will happen when WE ratify the treaty and start pressuring them to follow suit. IN FACT, THIS IS THE EXACT RATIONALE THAT THIS COUNTRY USED IN FOLLOWING THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS’ STATUTES ON TORTURE.
Bush could ratify Kyoto anytime he wants, but he and most Republicans are only interested in influencing other countries when our ability to rule the world’s flow of oil is threatened, or when we might want to back out of Geneva or some other inconvenient agreements.
Shame on us. As the world leader, we should not take the low road, ever.
LOLYou libs are hypocrites.Many fundamentalists and many evangelicals believe in a 10,000 year old Earth.You beat them up constantly on that score.However, it seems to me that those who believe in a 10,000 year old Earth would be far more likely to believe in Man Made Global Warming!Why?Well, as someone who believes in Genesis and, partially, in evolution, I believe that the Earth is BILLIONS of years old, and I realize that “climate change” happens all the time. I realize that Kansas used to be marshland, afer it was an inland sea.We have areas that are now desert that used to be jungle and vice-versa.Climates always change.
It seems to me that you libs, to be consistent, should realize that some of the sympathy that some Fundamentalists feel towards the Global Warming issue comes from their “young Earth” views!
I will say this, the ability of Democrats to bring together people who disagree, by avoiding any actual resolutions of anything, is amazing!
Clinton NEVER brings up Kyoto to Congress, because the unions hate Kyoto and he doesnt want to anger his base.However, Clinton sends VP Gore off to the Kyoto meetings and signs some of the paperwork, (nonbinding) just to keep the Greens from getting mad at him. —-And this behavior WORKS for Democrat politicians because the liberal press never points out that “The king isnt wearing any clothes!”
Global warming will not split the right.Global warming has ALREADY split the left, this is why nothing has been done!(Thank Heavens, since anything we do will be harmful!!)
Wit China taking over more of our “smoke stack” (read manufacturing) activities, it will be an easier sell to corporations to go along with the accord. We have in essence started handing over to third world countries the fate of our environment. Not a wise decision!
Alright Paul F Rosell, that’s enough.
You have hijacked two threads with your agenda against Kyoto. No one wants to hear it. If you can’t stay on topic them stay off threads.
Oh and you forgot your disclaimer.
Econ101 Paul F Rosell is known to have traded in fossil fuels leases and securities. He currently is a broker of securities unknown. On this forum, he has been demonstrated a liar more times than can be remembered. He once used the contents of a chat room as a link to prove his arguement. He has stated on this forum that “The truth is what I say it is.”
Suffice it to say that econ 101 Paul is not to be treated with anything approaching respect.
“Well, as someone who believes in Genesis and, partially, in evolution, I believe that the Earth is BILLIONS of years old, and I realize that “climate change” happens all the time. I realize that Kansas used to be marshland, afer it was an inland sea.”
What is your point here, Econ? That Kansas becoming an inland sea again is a good thing?
Or maybe you are suggesting that climate change is coming and there is nothing we can do about it, and even if we could we should not bother trying…
Because of what? Would our effort to stop massive flooding and drought get in the way of the corner store selling gasoline?
How did humans get by on this planet before the dollar was invented?
I’ll tell you this–we haven’t had to live through the ice age yet. Guess we better just lay back and enjoy it!
What amazes is me is that so many money-hungry ‘Publicans have not yet noticed the untold economic opportunities the climate change industry would bring…
…which reminds me: have any of you noticed that US car manufacturers cannot sell cars in many countries because the cars do not meet national fuel-emission standards?
How’s that for cutting-edge economics, Econ?
J R,
Telling the truth on this Blog, hasn’t been the standard now has it?
Just look at the latest boycotters. Are they boycotting? Nope, they’ve come back under hider names. Which means you can’t even rely on them for their word of what they are saying they are going to do, boycott.
And it doesn’t matter what kind of employment people have. He could be a Dillon’s Bagger for all I care.
This is a Blog, where people put their OPINION.
You don’t own it, I don’t own, the Wichita Eagle owns it.
And I don’t care about the history of past bloggers just to run them down.
You’re worse than an old lady small town Gossip that’s only mission in life is to destroy reputation by flapping her big mouth,so she may gain some type of importance in the inner circle.
Guess what? No one likes a gossip.
Apparently, after reading half of these comments, I’m a baby killer because I’m pro-choice, and I’m a GW freak who only listens to Al Gore.
You know, I’ve lived in Wichita off and on most of my 31 years, and definitely since I was 12, and I never knew that the people around me were such close minded people.
This last six years has taught me a few things. One of those is that my town is being starved of liberal politics on the airwaves while the right wing dominates it, controlling opinions and voices of people who swear to god that they are not right wingers and that they can think for themselves.
The bottom line is, this is a liberal town, it’s just been hijacked by one sides opinions. We need Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller, and Thom Hartmann with all the rest of the hosts at Air America.
Just because the right says something, doesn’t mean it’s correct. Seek out other information and stop letting them influence you without any challenge.
This is exactly why we need some type of fairness doctrine once again, markets should not be controlled by big money and big business who only support the right wings positions.
The bottom line is, Wake up Wichita, you have been under the right wings spell for far too long!
Oh, and Fox is right wing OPINION, not news. If you consider it news, then please open up your mind to realize it’s right wing news. CNN and MSNBC are not liberal by the way, it seems the right wing thinks facts have a liberal bias, so they try to make up their own.
If you are a liberal in Wichita, check out the Wichita Liberals myspace group at:
http://groups.myspace.com/wichitaliberals
“I never knew that the people around me were such close minded people.”
Dustin, you sure you want to include that in your post about close-minded?
Just asking. :D
Why do the anti-environmentalist always put GW as an either/ or proposition? Change in nature and environment are inevitible, if our actions are precipitating or accelerating GW than as rational people we should be taking steps to modify the causes.What’s so bad about developing alternative energy sources which would have the effect of nullifying the mid-east having control over our lives and livlihood?
Steve,
I always believed in Climate Change. Climate Change that has been caused by the forces of sun and those of the earth, magnetic spin, pole shifting and other things.
A consensus is not proof of a theory no matter how much spin one puts on it.
I am a semi-environmentalist. I recycle my metals and glass. I use energy efficient appliances and keep my home as energy efficient as possible. I recycle my yard clippings, shred my twigs and limbs, re-use everything that is natural.
There is nothing bad about alternative energy sources. I wish there was an efficient substitute or mechanism for powering vehicles that didn’t involve combustion.
My wish is similar to yours; I don’t want to see another Quick Trip gas pump, an oil dip stick or any other thing that goes up in price when an Oil Company gets a slight breeze that says raise the prices.
I want the magic bullet – the perpetual motion machine. I don’t want to be charged peak hours by my electric company nor be concerned about the usage of water or natural gas.
I don’t ever want to breathe in the fumes of a diesel powered bus or trucks again.
I don’t want to hear another mufflerness car or blasting exhaust of a combustion engine ever again.
I want clean, reusable, renewable and self cost energy now.
It ain’t gonna happen soon, but I can wish for it. :)
Welcome to blogging Dustin.
Yawn, sometimes the right makes it so easy? I’m ashamed of myself!
“Telling the truth on this Blog, hasn’t been the standard now has it?”
No, not for you JM. The same is true for Paul.
“Just look at the latest boycotters. Are they boycotting? Nope, they’ve come back under hider names. Which means you can’t even rely on them for their word of what they are saying they are going to do, boycott.”
I’m quite familiar with the styles of the various bloggers. To my knowledge there is NO ONE posting under a different nic from usual. Aside from you that is JM.On and “econ” Paul.
“This is a Blog, where people put their OPINION.”
Uh huh. People are entiteled to their own opinions. They are NOT entitled to use this forum to post lies…..well and get away with it anyway. MOST of us would like this forun to have more credibility than grafitti on an ally wall.
“And I don’t care about the history of past bloggers just to run them down.”
Yeah you have a little problem with YOUR past too don’t you?
“No one likes a gossip.”
No, no one likes a liar. There’s a difference.
I guess I can call you a liar then J R :)
You don’t get it do you? This is not your personal Blog
You do not get to make the rules.
You are not the purveyor of the truth.
If you want to set up your own rules, set up your own Blog.
There is some free software out there just waiting for you.
Here are the rules of the WE Blog:
“Although we are not responsible for the content of the comments on this blog and have no obligation to monitor them, we reserve the right to remove any comments that are threatening, libelous, obscene or otherwise objectionable.”
That is from the Wichita Eagle people, not J R.
Like I said before, grow up and enter the world of reality on the Internet.
It’s all well and good to listen to the so called ‘experts’ and to be concerned when clear evidence presents itself concerning global warming, but what is civilization to do? Are we to quit reproducing, have a global thermonuclear exchange to reduce the population thereby reducing human impact, and/or return to a primitive non fossil fuel and non-technological- mechanical existence? I suppose we could reduce CO2 production and reach full employment as a side benefit if we banned tractors and all mechanized agricultural equipment, but what kind of an existence would we have. I think rational discussion is appropriate but the mass hysteria over global warming borders on political fear mongering. Most folks should stick with living their lives in reasonable ways and stay away from premature science and politically charged subjects. The earth will eventually take care of itself without asking our permission.
But Mark, when it comes to making tough choices, fear-mongering is the only way to get people moving–we have done far too little thus far. When SUVs are factored in, gas mileage on the average car is LOWER than it was in the late 1970s!! That isn’t progress, is it? How else do you get the attention of enough people to initiate change? Speaking quietly in the background HAS NOT DONE IT.
The scientists claim that the tipping point–where it will be too late to stop the changes–could be within 10 years!
The risk is that if the GW community does not yell, peolpe will remain complacent. It’s time to act, if we were all wrong, we will have made changes for the better anyway.
To believe that the economy will suffer is to forget how flexible and inventive the US economy is and has always been.
Mark, no one’s talking about banning tractors:
If every household in the United States replaced one regular light bulb with an energy-saving model, we could reduce global warming pollution by more than 90 billion pounds over the life of the bulbs; the same as taking 6.3 million cars off the road.
What would that figure be if we banned incandesecent bulbs? The energy-saving bulbs look the same as incandescent now–and they’re much cheaper for consumers!!!!
A lot of this stuff is ABSOLUTELY PAINLESS. That’s what GW people get so fired-up about.
What are you bitching about? If global warming raises the sea levels and floods coastal areas, Kansas property values will go through the ceiling!
Dear Editors,
I notice that you’ve never had a thread that has the ‘religious left’ as a topic.
Do you need some examples of the religious left? Or does the very thought cause your belief system to tilt?
Just wondering.
Hank
Oh please Hank, do educate us about this mysterious “religious left”!
JR is an idiot.JR could not win the average high school debate, on any topic, because JR would start asking where people worked, who they voted for in the last few elections, who they contributed to, and what investments they held.JR “wins” arguements only one way: in his own delusional, childish, immature mind!JR “wins” by making himself somehow superior to everyone who disagrees with him, discounting any fact that comes from lesser beings than himself.
Ignore JR.
Yes, I am an expert on what I believe. JR once told me what I believed, my retort was that I am the only expert on what I believe.
JR once called me a “chickenhawk” which was disproved to him, as I am a former Marine.
JR once claimed that he used to be a “conservative” yet JR can not name a single conservative principal he has EVER supported! And JR thinks FDR was one of the greatest Presidents ever. (ME? FDR was great on defense, horrible on economic matters, prolonging the Great Depression. I don’t know a single conservative that disagrees. However, my point is, JR claimed to be a conservative who changed his mind. This is not possible, given his stated views now and in the past!)
I try to ignore JR too, but that is hard to do.JR is a bully. JR kicks sand, insults, belittles and never makes any intellectual points here.JR cant make a well reasoned arguement because he just isnt smart enough.Like every bully I have ever known, JR is an idiot!
delsolActually, at the time of our founding, we were comming out of an mini ice-age.
My point with bringing up religion? Well, I did not bring it up, the opening thread did.And, I am only commenting, correctly, that the Democrat party is EXPERT at papering over differences within its own party.
The Dems get away with their fractures most of the time.We had Teddy Kennedy run against sitting Dem Carter once, but by and large they keep their bloodletting private — in large measure because the MSM never comments on internal Dem splits.
The Democrat Party is the party of the Union member who depends on manufacturing and fossil fuels —-AND the Democrat Party is the party of the GW nuts who want to shut down the smokestacks and tax the heck out of fossil fuels!The Dem Party is the home of most of the countries Anti-Semites.The Dem Party is also the party of most American Jews.
You can do it because no one calls you on it. You can do it because the press likes to show a few Evangelicals who are lead astray, but the Press will never talk about divisions on the left!
Also, GW “do-something” proponents:
If this is a “global” issue, how does it help if we just move all the carbon emissions to China?
Kyoto = OUTSOURCING JOBS!
PAUL F. ROSELL,
“If this is a “global” issue, how does it help if we just move all the carbon emissions to China?”
Please explain how if the U.S. cuts emissions, the emissions that the U.S. did NOT emit “move” to China.
The U.S.’s 5% of the world’s population is responsible for about 30% of the added greenhouse gases. We have a responsibility to cut emissions.
The clean technology that the U.S. develops could be sold to China. Our gas-guzzling vehicles are even banned from there.
PAUL F. ROSELL: “Kyoto = OUTSOURCING JOBS!”
Like Detroit losing market to Honda and Toyota, because consumers WANT higher mpg vehicles?
cosmosEconomics: if Kyoto increases the cost of Carbon in those signatory states, then, by definition, Carbon would be CHEAPER in states that are EXEMPT (China and the third world.)
Energy demand INCREASES are now greatest in China, India and the developing world.Nothing stays the same. The US does use a large share of energy, we also feed the world, immunize the world, and give more private and government charity to the world than any other country.I dont feel guilty about our economy, I am proud of it.Killing our economy will litterally kill people.I think Kyoto will kill people by drying up the revenue we have been so generous with, in the past.The rest of the world will ignore Kyoto.Kyoto will simply punish America and any other sucker states that try to follow it.There is no way that the world can make any “alternative fuel” cheaper to the billions of poor people on this Earth.The poor countries want to eat, they want to be warm.They will burn carbon no matter what you or Al Gore tell them to do.
And again;Those of you who fought NAFTA, those of you who claim, falsely, that our President gives tax breaks to companies that “outsource” to those of you who think your job should be protected:The United Auto Workers opposes Kyoto!This is a Democrat group!This is a SPLIT on the LEFT!(Yet the Eagle only brings up a few goofy Evangelical Ministers to show the Right is having trouble on this issue!!!)
Cue the violins!
Pity poor Paulie Rosell.
Quite the little rant you have upstairs there Paul. What’s the matter? Pretty much everything I say about you right? I don’t use anything against you that you don’t bring here yourself. You bring lies and get busted on them, and yup I’m gonna call you on it. I’ve not ASKED you a question in a very long time because I KNOW I’d not get a straight answer.
Heh heh I’m an idiot. If an idiot can spin you into that little screed upstairs? You best hope the better posters stay gone.They’d turn you into a sobbing tot!
Have at him cosmos!
And yes I WAS a conservative. It is folks exactly like Mr. Rosell that turned me into a liberal. He is the epitome of the Republican party these days. He can hit all the right notes but only to one tune. There is no depth, no nuance. Only the lockstep of corporate capitalism.
No Paul I think yoo pretty well made your own bed here. Little surprise you’ve chosen this time to emerge from under it!
Oh and I DID take back the call of chickenhawk. You KNOW that. It is your own fault that in my eyes you re earned it here.And this latest from you makes me restate again. Chickensh** is more appropriate.
Now go cry me another river. Or do you want my Mom’s phone number so you can call and tell her “J R’s bein’ mean to me!”?
Go teach your son some more curse words, hate and loathing J R. Just like you said you have done with great fatherly pride.
Oh, and go make up another lie about the email from the Congressman.
My boy don’t curse. He calls me on it now and again.
My boy don’t hate. But he is taught who his friends are not.
What because I tell him Dick Cheney is an evil man I’m teaching him hate? I call it good sense!
You are invited to demonstrate your assertions further!
Oh and the congressman thing again.
Hmmmm what is more likely?
I post a story for which I say up front that I have no proof, a “congressmans aid” calls me on it, and I’m lying?
OR could it be: I post a story for which I say up front I have no proof and it is the truth, JM Republican TROLLS the congressmans aid to “call me on it” (the “congressmans aid” has no proof either even though I gave him my email address which should find the evidence if he wanted to share it) there is no proof either way and JM Republican keeps bringing it up because he is the source of the discrepancy in the first place?
Hmmmmmmm.