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- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted Feb. 1, 2007 at 1:04 a.m.
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Here’s some news the press hasn’t reported:
Why did a member of Nola Foulston’s DA staff, write a letter to the Dean of the School of Law at UMKC to have Kris Kobach face ethics charges, or possibly disciplinary action at UMKC, because he had appeared on the O’Reilly Factor and had been critical of Foulston? (Kobach was elected as the Chair of the Kansas Republican Party last Saturday.)
Kobach was guilty of exercising his constitutional right to free speech and that offended Foulston? If Foulston didn’t agree with Kobach, why not have an open debate, instead of trying behind-the-scene backstabbing and an attempt to squelch and intimidate Kobach?
Just wanted to say this to Joe Biden:
I like White people! Some of my friends are even White.
KSMeadowlark – I’ve stated this before and I’ll reiterate it – Nola is a loose cannon.
While I think she does her job well inasmuch as she prosecutes crime heavily, she has also had episodes that lead me to believe she thinks her actions are above reproach.
This may be a lash out against anyone who supported Kline over her, but she needs to pay attention to the job she was hired to do – and leave the petty stuff behind.
Both she and Kline lost a LOT of respect with that last fiasco. This is quickly becoming a Hatfield’s and McCoy’s scenario.
Like Joe Biden, I like my Negros articulate and clean.
I didn’t see any problem with Biden’s statement. It was a compliment. I wouldn’t mind at all if someone said that about me.
The politically-correct crowd MUST back off and let us speak our minds. Biden apologized – but he should NOT have. He didn’t do anything wrong.
University Facility Repair Costs –
It could be interesting to find out how the state managed (or in this case not managed) to raise tuitions and taxes, and did not provide for the appropriate maintenance and replacement programs over the years — and if they did where did the money actually go?
The KU Endowment Association reports assets over 1.2 billion, K-State almost 400 million, and WSU 135 million — I would think that the interest and income generated by those assets should be about a million dollars a day. So they should consider provide some of the funding / state loans for the repairs needed.
Instead of raising tolls, why not add another $1.00 to the alcohol and tobacco taxes. The extra dollar on alcohol alone would add approximately 50 million to the state coffers. (Latest available stats indicate that the average American consumes 25 gallons of bear, 2.5 gallons of wine and 1 gallon of other spirits). Most beer drinkers won’t stop buying and the students who attend the universities and drink would be contributing to the improvement of their campuses.
So, let’s have some more “sin taxes”, right Ken? I don’t know why they call you people “fundies”, you sure as hell aren’t interested in fun. IIRC, the profits from the lottery were all supposed to go to education. That was the platform by which it was voted into reality. Didn’t happen, did it? If it had, this problem wouldn’t even exist. But hell no — among other boondoggles, a Bureau of Tourism (or some such) was created, with I recall, Bob Knight feeding at the trough. Have you ever know anyone who came to Kansas on vacation for anything but to see relatives and/or really, really good friends? “Damn, Dorothy, let’s go see them deer and buffalo roam this year!!”Kansas is not a bad place to live, but who the hell would want to just visit here? This is not Palm Beach or Aspen or Vail or Mount Rushmore.I don’t think so, Ken.
Frankly, you people have screwed the people who smoke and enjoy moderate and responsible drinking long enough. How about you “fundies” be required to remit an amount equal to the tithes you claim as deductions on your Federal and State Tax Returns annually to the “State Universities’ Maintenance Fund” — sounds fair to me.
I’m not interested in sin taxing. I don’t drink and I don’t smoke but it smacks of too much government control and strong-arm tactics to me.
We have groups who want to raise taxes on unhealthy foods, chips, butter, sugary snacks. Ridiculous.
Universities do not NEED fancy high-dollar buildings. They only need decent areas in which to study and teach.
More and more students are learning on-line so why pump so much money into residential Universities?
The kids who go to party should be kicked out – not taxed.
Oh come on GS, when was the last time anybody’s cleanliness was considered? Not to mention articulate.
All hail Ignignokt and Err! Mooninites brought the city of Boston to it’s knees…Beware the lite bright!
Gasp GS did you just defend a DEMOCRAT?
I feel the same as you do, the right is grasping at some straws.
I told you it was only a matter of time till they found a way to sin tax something someone else likes to do. First the smokers, the drinkers, the gamblers, now the eaters.
They’ll start taxing those who breathe too much.
The text of the HB2299 reads:
HOUSE BILL No. 2299By Representative KinzerAN ACT concerning cities and counties; prohibiting the enactment of certain ordinances or resolutions.Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Kansas:Section 1. No city or county shall enact any local legislation by the passage of an ordinance or resolution which creates a domestic partner registry or which otherwise establishes or recognizes any domestic partner relationship not recognized under state law.Sec. 2. This act shall take effect and be in force from and after its publication in the statute book.
This was in direct response to Lawrence’s plan to put forth a domestic partnership ordinance.
So much for all those who hollered that the marriage amendment wasn’t against gays. We’ll see if all those people who voted FOR the marriage amendment will back up domestic partnership.
I pulled this off of the web. It was a letter-to-the-editor in Charleston, SC newspaper.
What do you think of this GS?
“Letter: Bush should cancel elections, our rights, and jail Democrats
By DAN G. SMITH, Charleston
It is time for President Bush to start acting like Abraham Lincoln, and it is time to say what many are thinking, but dare not say. America is at war against radical Islam, and since 1972 the Democratic Party has proven itself utterly unreliable in matters of national security, as well as lacking in the virtues that made America great.
They are the party of criminal coddling, cultural pluralism, lax public schooling, radical feminism, homosexual marriage, abortion, atheism, and moral relativism. They are a party of division — a party of traitors.
In 1861, invoking war powers, Abraham Lincoln jailed 88,000 subversive American citizens and suspended habeas corpus in order to save the Union. He also closed down opposition newspapers, threatened to suspend a state legislative session, and threatened a Supreme Court justice with prison. Today, President Bush needs to act with Lincoln’s resolve and invoke his war powers to save America.
Our military must fight and kill the foreign enemy, and the president must fight the domestic enemy by suspending federal elections and by banning all Democrats and independents from the federal government for the foreseeable future — at gunpoint if necessary. He should then order the Republican Congress to replace three activist Supreme Court justices with strict constructionists. Those who strenuously object should be jailed. State and local governments will continue as usual, but the world is currently too dangerous a place to allow Democrats federal power.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Anyway, Democrats have already subverted democracy and the Constitution by backing judicial activism.
These times call for strong determined leadership, for a revitalized, muscular Americanism. Democratic blame-America-first whiners are not the patriots they claim to be. They are either hopelessly naive or blatantly anti-American. I hope that President Bush can rise to the occasion as Lincoln did and preserve our nation. Every patriotic American should write to our president and tell him we support decisive action on his part. To quote Jesus and President Lincoln, “A house divided against itself cannot stand!”"
LMAO…
But seriously, I think this is just some newspaper troll (of such a thing exists). No one, short of a KKK clansperson (PC pun intended) could be this serious.
Here is the link… sorry:
http://www.jg-tc.com/articles/2007/02/01/opinion/letters/letter001.txt#blogcomments
Hi Andrew – always good to hear from you. Stay safe out there.
So we should tax the small portion of the population that uses the toll way to pay for the maintenance? Sheridan finally makes a good point about the on line aspect of the issue.
RM — fundies? You ignorance is showing. So why didn’t you and the other citizens raise enough hell to make sure the lottery funds went to education? Too busy funding a war? and … what the hell does this have to do withthe issue: “But hell no — among other boondoggles, a Bureau of Tourism (or some such) was created, with I recall, Bob Knight feeding at the trough. Have you ever know anyone who came to Kansas on vacation for anything but to see relatives and/or really, really good friends? “Damn, Dorothy, let’s go see them deer and buffalo roam this year!!”Kansas is not a bad place to live, but who the hell would want to just visit here? This is not Palm Beach or Aspen or Vail or Mount Rushmore.” You’re ramblings again make no sense.
And who are these “you people” ?
I tell you what draws people to kansas- HUNTING.
“Gasp GS did you just defend a DEMOCRAT?
I feel the same as you do, the right is grasping at some straws.”
Posted by: political_mom | February 01, 2007 at 09:25 AM
Who is “the right” in this comment? Ken?
Andrew: Be careful. It’s dangerous to challenge a Southerner wearing a pointy hat and a sheet quoting Jesus (pronounced “hey-soos”, he’s the gardener, I guess) AND Abraham Lincoln. Although, it just proves that Kansas doesn’t have an exclusive of nut cases!
Andrew-Your post is far too deep for the Shrub, but I wouldn’t recommend showing to Cheney!!
I wouldn’t want to live in his world, but I rather suspect that the choice would not be mine to make.
“Stay safe out there, nathan.”We support you, but what you are doing is abhorent and probably illegal.capn sez you are part of the bunch who has killed thousands of innocent civilians.What say you? Do you do that?
I have never killed anyone, Fleet… classic troll…
I do what I have to, and I (obviously) don’t run things here.
Im gonna grab some dinner.
Ken: People like you — Bible thumping fundies whose answer to everything is “Tax the sinners”. Why didn’t I insist the funds go where they were stated they were supposed to go. Good question. I didn’t live here then, and, like an idiot, I suppose, assumed the people who did would insure they did what the promised before the vote. What’s your excuse?
Apparently, Ken, you’re just too thick to understand that I don’t think the turnpike users or the people who smoke or drink should pay for it. As I said yesterday, it’s been 30 years now that the turnpike has been paid off, and they’re still collecting tolls.
People like you ? Bible thumping? You are an idiot to make those comments without knowing me – but you seem to do that with everyone you disagree with.
I didn’t live here either. I haven’t read the Bible (I’m catholic — never was a requirement)…
My answer to everything is not tax the sinners — but they certainly make a convenient tax target —- and what do you propose to fund the maintenance — anything as long as it doesn’t involve you —
I say we tax those who have children. Because we know they’re having sex.
Breeders should be punished.
Hello rm!!The turnpike was paid off and it was supposed to be a non-toll road after that. Didn’t happen. Lieing bastards! The turnpike was maintained AND paid off. Where is the money going now that the only concern is maintainance?
I hardly ever use the turnpike. TAX IT BIG TIME!
pmom-That will leave out the married people. Everybody knows that there is something in the wedding cake that shuts all that down.
I continually laugh at those that say “We hate the war, but we support the troops!”
I think it’s safe to say we ALL hate war. We all wish we could live in a John Lennon world without hatred and without war. However, that’s just not reality. War is a necessary ugliness that protects our liberty and freedom.
How can you honestly believe you support the troops when you demoralize them by calling them baby killers, torturers, etc. and put them at greater risk by emboldening the enemy?
What I want to know is why has builing maintenance not been kept current at the universities? Was there not a budget every year with building maintenance included? Why is Sebellius not asking the university presidents what happened to that money? Is it mismanagement? If so, then we need better money managers in charge of the budget.
And why should turnpike drivers have to pay for the mismanagement of the university presidents?
It seems to me that by not imroving things in Baghdad these 4 years, is putting our forces ” at greater risk by emboldening the enemy”
???
Golf, show me where the anti-IRAQ war people have called the troops babykillers and terrorists?
Barring the ones who acted inappropriately and actually DID do those things.
Golf obviously missed “The Daily Show” last night…
PM: It is typical Righty over dramatizing… He and GS get together to brainstorm shit to make up.
Rest in Peace Molly Ivins!
You will be missed!
Fleet: I pontificated about that last night. No shit, pard’. It was “guaranteed” that it would become a toll-free extension of I-35 in 20 years after it opened, which would have been 1977 … 30 f**king years ago!
Molly’s last column
http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=2389
I have a vision of Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, and Pat Cole having a BIG party and clinking glasses…
Why should it involve me? What does smoking and having a drink now and then have to do with lousy maintenance at the state colleges? You are the one that wants to fund it by taxing tobacco and liquor. Is it, like somebody said, that we’re convenient targets? You don’t know me either, but first shot out of the box, “tax the sinners”! Just exactly what should have my first impression been?
Did ya notice that Tiahrt has been picked for a task force to probe Congressional ethics?
Why did I get a headache when I read that?–New topic: Molly Ivans. What a loss. And rememer her best line: If his IQ were any lower, they’ have to water him twice a day.Don’t think she was talking about Shrub, but it fits.
And I see that Brother Castillo has started pontificating about anti-war protesters. Maybe he was the one who wrote the letter about how Bush should take away all of our liberties and win this here war.
As KFG says: Jesus wept.—–
Molly Ivins – (refering to the Texas State Lege) – “They are proof that man decended from the apes, and damned recently, too.”
Loved Molly, she will be greatly missed. I know that she is kickin’ with Ann and Barbara right now, laughing their tails off.
How would I fund it? Interest from the endowment funds. There’s certainly quite a sum there. Isn’t maintenance an operating expense? The situation exists only because of mismanagement in the hallowed halls of academe anyway.
Meadowlark: Maybe that letter from Foulston’s office had something to do with those abortion records that somehow got onto Bill O’Reilly’s show? Maybe you don’t know what was exactly written in that letter. Was Korbach helping Phill Kline with that Bill O’Reilly appearance?
rm – I think there are a couple of reasons for the popularity of “sin taxes” (and also perhaps restaraunts etc): they make easy targets and there is the perception that if a person can afford “x” they can afford to pay an extra tax on it. Kine of like a ‘luxury tax’ thing.
Yeah, you’re probably right on, Ben, but I keep having this little voice from somewhere mumbling, “We hold these truths to be self evident…..created equal…pursuit of happiness” I can’t quite make it all out yet….probably nothing, just my mind wandering … age, dotage, and all that. Never mind. :)
Molly, Ann, Barbara and Pat on the veranda of Varner House, sippin; good mash juleps, graciously served by Miss Ima. Yeah, I can see it now.
I’ve lived in Texas and Michigan. Both states got a state lottery by claiming that 100% of proceeds would go to education. Property taxes in both states continue to climb to support education. Someone’s wallet is getting fatter…
Copies of handwritten notes by Vice President Dick Cheney, introduced at trial by defense attorneys for former White House staffer I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, would appear to implicate George W. Bush in the Plame CIA Leak case.
Bush has long maintained that he was unaware of attacks by any member of his administration against [former ambassador Joseph] Wilson. The ex-envoy’s stinging rebukes of the administration’s use of pre-war Iraq intelligence led Libby and other White House officials to leak Wilson’s wife’s covert CIA status to reporters in July 2003 in an act of retaliation.
But Cheney’s notes, which were introduced into evidence Tuesday during Libby’s perjury and obstruction-of-justice trial, call into question the truthfulness of President Bush’s vehement denials about his prior knowledge of the attacks against Wilson. The revelation that Bush may have known all along that there was an effort by members of his office to discredit the former ambassador begs the question: Was the president also aware that senior members of his administration compromised Valerie Plame’s undercover role with the CIA?
Further, the highly explicit nature of Cheney’s comments not only hints at a rift between Cheney and Bush over what Cheney felt was the scapegoating of Libby, but also raises serious questions about potentially criminal actions by Bush. If Bush did indeed play an active role in encouraging Libby to take the fall to protect Karl Rove, as Libby’s lawyers articulated in their opening statements, then that could be viewed as criminal involvement by Bush.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/013107Z.shtml
Sollie, if I remember correctly, both the Kansas and Texas lotteries were sold by promising to fund economic developoment.
For both Kansas and Texas, putting it into education came later.
First Lady Laura Bush announced that William “Bill” Yosses has been named the White House Executive Pastry Chef. Yosses is also co-author of the cookbook “Desserts for Dummies.”
A tribute to Molly from her editor
http://www.creators.com/opinion/molly-ivins.html?columnsName=miv
ksfg, your recollection as to the Kansas Lottery and the use of proceeds is the same as mine. Eco-Devo was the rationale. Has there, in fact, been a dedication of a part of the proceeds to education? I know there was a redirection of some of the proceeds to the general fund, and I recall discussion about using some of the funds for education, but am not aware that that occurred.
Sol, on the Michigan Lottery; what type of education? There are a few (at least) states that use the lottery and other gambling proceeds to fund scholarships for higher education, but leave the financing of K-12 to the property tax, among other things.
Too bad The Eagle was too craven and cowardly to actually PRINT any Molly Ivins’ articles in the last couple of years.
They caved to the vociferous right-wing that demands free speech . . . for itself, and none for anyone else.
Yeah cap’n
And we get values boy’s bias instead
Since when was war a “values” issue?
Just call him what he is. A biased right wing republican shill.
And they dont even have the courage to publish a counter balance.
Which any fifth grade English student should be able to do. It’s not like the writing would need any “heft” to counter balance.
heheheheheheehehehehehehehehhehe
Well Texas does have some great Public Universities with LOTS of money (I mean multi-billion dollar endowments). UT alone has over 11 billion (number 5 in the nation behind Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and Princeton).
Answering my own questions, and if anyone else is interested:
http://www.kslottery.com/WhereTheMoneyGoes/WhereTheMoneyGoes.htm
Clearly, from the link, there is not any direct transfer of funds from the lottery for education.
Capn: The Beagle is a joke of a newspaper, but … you can’t have it both ways, bud. One day, it’s controlled by the lib left, and the next day, it’s they’ve caved to the right wing fundie zealots. Now, if you want to tell me the management is all bi-polar, I’d buy that!!
IIRC, the endowment funds for the public universities in Texas receive oil royalty revenue from production on state-owned or state-controlled land. This has allowed the endowment funds of the universities, particularly UT-Austin, to experience tremendous growth over the past three decades, and the $$ generated therefrom have allowed that institution to make investments in campus improvements and endowed professorial chairs which have increased its reputation within the academic community.
VT – I remember recommending that they use lottery money for post-secondary education/training. It has been found that a well-trained workforce is a good eco-devo tool.
RM, I think that is how newspapers, especially editorial departments keep score.
If BOTH sides think they are biased, they think they are being balanced and writing from the middle. Or, as we say out here, “if yer pissin’ off everyone, yer prolly doin’ the right thing”.
Some one should mention to grasshopper, though, that extreme ying and extreme yang do not equate to balance.
And, to quote Molly’s friend Jim Hightower, the only things you find in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and dead armadillos.
Yes, Ben, and from time to time I renew my suggestion, which is amazingly congruent with yours. So far, my suggestion has fallen upon deaf ears.
“It has been found that a well-trained workforce is a good eco-devo tool.”
It is more than a “good tool”.
It is an essential tool. Waaaaaayyyy more important than taxes or tax breaks.
Texas lotteryhttp://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/default/Supporting_Education/
And Michigan http://www.michigan.gov/lottery/0,1607,7-110-888—,00.html
I got to meet values boy.heh heh kfg. He says he is afraid of your fried chicken for fear you will poison him!
What a masterpiece he has for us today…..
“If the anti-war crowd would disavow the fanatics and change its tone and tactics, it might find a much larger and receptive audience.”
Hey thanks for the advice there Brent! I note YOU don’t tell us whether you still support the misadventure in Iraq. Please advise?
Meanwhile…”Most Americans want a new direction in Iraq. In a recent Gallup Poll, nearly 60 percent of respondents agreed the war’s costs outweighed its benefits. Close to the same percentage oppose the president’s plan to send in more troops.”
Well gosh seems like those of us against the war are already getting OUR message out!
Ah but in this Brent is not alone. bush’s policy re: Iraq is a dismal failure and so now those against it are supposed to ride, ride I say to the rescue with a better plan for the folks who got us into this in the first place.
“At one time, the PUF was the chief source of income for Texas A&M University at College Station and The University of Texas at Austin, but today its revenues account for less than ten percent of the universities’ annual budgets. This has challenged both schools to increase sponsored research and private donations.”
-Wiki
There you go. And UT Austin doesn’t even offer Petroleum related degrees (unless you count Geology of course), but A&M does. Also, these two systems fund and administrate 26 Universities.
Thanks for the links, Sol.
Michigan lottery proceeds, per Sol’s link, provide 5% of the $$ expended on K-12 education. The only thing I can say there is perhaps this contribution somewhat reduced the increase in the property tax.
Texas lottery site is a bit more coy, merely noting that $8 billion to education in 8 years; couldn’t tell from the linked page how much, if any, goes to post-secondary.
The general philosophy, as I understand it, for not using any lottery proceeds for a substantial portion of public education costs is that the revenues vary widely from year to year, and it is necessary to have a more stable revenue source upon which to rely. Thus, the property tax.
Does Kansas have a State Income Tax?
Andrew – YES.
Haha… suckas! Texas Rules!
…Stares blankly at the miniature snowman…kicks the small snow-formed head into a wooden fence causing two boards to fall up a faux marble birdbath…
Andrew’s posts lead me to raise a question (with much fear and trepidation): should Kansas joint with a number of other states in creating a single state University system, to create, e.g., the University of Kansas -Lawrence, the University of Kansas – Manhattan, the University of Kansas – Wichita, and so on. It seems to me that a unified system such as this might create some operating efficiencies.
To my recollection, this is how it’s done in Missouri, Texas (to some extent), Wisconsin, California, Indiana (a bit different, in that there’s IUPUI, for example [Indiana Purdue University at Indianapolis]), and North Carolina. There are likely more states that operate this way, but I do not know which states they may be.
If we’re going to fund higher education with sin taxes, how about a tax on idiocy; that should raise enough money to gold-plate our universities!
Uh, Andrew, if this is the sole criterion, then Florida and Washington join with Texas as a ruling triumverate; oops, I forgot New Hampshire, which also has no individual (at least) state income tax, IIRC; thus, a quartet! :)
Well Texas’ first two public Univeristies were created in the 1870s, and the rest followed under later, different state governments and laws. It is all very complicated and hardly “unified”. The older schools (A&M and Texas) have had a lot of time and money to expand to the point they are at now (with one branch not even in Texas).
Lol, I’m a Texan. I’m SUPPOSED to be an arrogant ass. If we had somewhere to ski in Texas (and if I wasn’t in the Army), I would have no reason to ever leave.
…Notes that sin taxes are like putting bricks in a fish tank full of water…Okies were throwing dynamite across the Red River into Texas…The Texans would light the dynamite and throw it back…:-)…
Ah yes JR.
Men everywhere simultaneously love and fear my fried chicken….
Hee hee hee hee hee
Just wait until we get to the potato salad!
I know the end times are upon us; just read (while awaiting a client late for the appointment) that the French have banned smoking in public places! Mon Dieu!
Does this mean the French have surrendered from smoking after orginally surrendering to smoking??
That’s consistency!!
gster, spot on; and I was always led to believe that Galouise was a national treasure of France (spelling likely wrong, but if any of you out there ever lit one of those things up, you know what I mean).
All right… well deserved recognition.
‘Al Gore Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for Climate Campaign’http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2840429
Maybe that explains Edith Piaff’s singing!!
So we should tax the sinners using the tollway to raise the funds? The endowments are a good idea
It would be great if Gore wins the Nobel. It would further elevate his work against climate change.
J R I just thought I should tell you that Rush Limbaugh has also been nominated for the same Peace Prize. What exactly does global warming have to do with peace anyway? Just thought you would be interested in this little tidbit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20070201/pl_usnw/landmark_legal_foundation_nominates_rush_limbaugh_for2007_nobel_peace_prize
Jeez, Germie, Limbaugh was “nominated” by a far right wing media yahoo, not a member of the Nobel nominating committee.
Christ, get yer facts straight.
ksgrm – we are already seeing unrest and violence in areas of the world where resources like food and water are scarce. Increased desertification leads to increased crop failures and then to increased violence.
Years ago Prime Minister Ozal of Turkey predicted that there would be future wars in the Middle East over scarce water. One of the factors behind Pakistan’s desire to control Kashir is water (the Indus River I think). Turkey and Syria control the headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates; there have been concerns about wars over water there.
Just what does global warming have to do with peace?
You’re kidding right?
If the climate of the planet is even slightly altered, millions of people will be displaced by rising sea water. They will be looking for a place to go and they will not be peaceful about it. The nations where those folks go will not be asking for help. They will be demanding it.
Agriculture could be significantly affected. Resource and food disruption is not conducive to peace.That’s just for a start.
You HAVE to be kidding.
Yeah Rush was nominated. By Mark Levin. A certifiable nut.
Rush deserves a prize alright. Several whacks with the buisiness end of a shovel comes to mind. I can think of no single American who has done more harm to this country. Well bush maybe.
As an acknowledged deserter of your democratic roots, I would not be surprised to find that you are a fan of his ksgrm.
Did Limbaugh nominate himself?
“Founded in 1976, Landmark Legal Foundation is the leading conservative public interest law firm in the United States. Rush Limbaugh serves as an unpaid member of Landmark’s Board of Advisors.”
From ksgrm’s link
I just had to throw that in to do a little agitating. I do have a hard time taking Gore seriously. I remember when he and Tipper were going to clean up the lyrics of rap songs. When they ran with Clinton they realized the entertainment industry were their bread and butter and this ‘nobel’ effort went away. I keep thinking something like this might happen to his new scientific credentials.
I figured it for a blood in the water post ksgrm.
I cannot comment on the music thing as I do not know how that played out.
The Limbaugh nomination? Insanity from an insane man.
I am listening to that man right now.
Which brings me to…
Have you seen Al Gore’s documentary ksgrm? Have you read “Earth in the Balance”?
My challenge if you have not is that you do so. You may similarly suggest viewing or reading material for me.
ksgrm,
ksgrm: “I keep thinking something like this might happen to his new scientific credentials.”
Gore’s “new scientific credentials” are actually the OLD credentials of the scientists at IPCC, NOAA, NASA, etc. It’s a very long list.
The new IPCC 2007 report says it’s “very likely” that humans are causing climate change, meaning a greater than 90% chance.
Is it wise to load 9 bullets into a 10 chamber revolver, and play Russian roulette?
Gee, are the righties starting to say we dont have a water problem in kansas? That the coal fired plant and ethanol plants are NOT using up YOUR water?
like usual, they believe six impossible things before breakfast.
To your point Ben, the title of this piece is “tankers may ship water to parched cities of the future”.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070202/sc_nm/globalwarming_water_dc
But of course, the water shortage is just “arm flailing” by the left….
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