The greening of Hollywood extended beyond Al Gore’s win at the Oscars. More celebrities than ever arrived at the Kodak Theatre in gas-efficient hybrids. Ballots and programs were printed on recycled paper and organizers concerned themselves with choosing more environmentally responsible materials for sets and decorations.
Though this "green" effort seemed like a lot of shallow back-patting, more and more celebrities acting environmentally responsible may have far-reaching effects. The Hollywood entertainment industry enjoys a rapt audience of millions of people, not only in the United States but around the world. If anyone can make conservation of natural resources cool, it can.
Meanwhile, a free-market organization called the Tennessee Center for Policy Research is accusing Gore of hypocrisy because his house in Nashville "consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year."
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The Tennessee Center for Policy Research is merely another swift-boat group that started up a website a few days ago. How’d they get Gore’s utility bills? Digging through the trash or they just make up the figures? Once again the conservative media will pick up any tabloid trash the conservative muckrackers dredge up. Meanwhile Bush is using taxpayer money to finance terrorists and that hardly gets a peep in the news. Go figure.
Of course, now it is more than a story by the TCPR. It is a national story on ABC, CNN etc..
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/GlobalWarming/story?id=2906888&page=1
I think it is a legitimate issue. Mr. Gore is a leader in environmentalist movement. But he has not been walking the walk.
Al Gore – what an embarrassment. Anyone want to be that the big oaf is getting ready to announce his run for the Oval Office? Probably figures if Hollyweird can put Obama Winfrey in – it can boost him, also.
Gee, now he has two big accomplishments under his belt – creating the Internet, AND leading the war against Global Warming. ….yawn….
During his first run – I vividly remember the image of the Frankenstein-esque man sucking face with Tipper on stage. Grrrrooooosss….it was like two big, pasty-white slugs locked in a distrubing mating ritual.
I’m not at all surprised that he consumes WAY more energy in a month than most Americans do in an entire year.
Like most liberals, he has ‘hypocrite’ written all over him.
GSheridan,What an embarrasment, back to lie about posters today, or are you ready to make an apology? I say, if you want to keep lying, go back to Salina, you lying scum bag.
Good morning Steven.Going to be a beautiful day out there today.It’s a damned fine day to be you.And me.
The Tennessee Center for Policy Research is a fake organization put together just to discredit Al Gore. Heard it on the radio this morning. This is undoubtedly a case of Big Money doing its thing again.What does Al Gore gain by lying about global warming? Nothing.
What does Big Money gain by smearing him? Stacks more money – they get to keep on ramming our air and water full of filthy sludge while they make their widgets to sell to the rest of us fools who believe their crap.
“How’d they get Gore’s utility bills?”
That’s not the real question, but you people (and Olberman, last night) choose to ignore what is right in your face. Gore and the rest of the Hollywood Greenies are phony hypocrites.
How does anyone know that thoes numbers are real? you notice that they never asked Gore or his people about the bills…
heheheheh I’d say the bloggers of wingnuttia are wetting themselves over EVERY possible democratic nominee. There isnt ANY democrat they arent shitting the bed over.
Obama bashing over his middle name? Check. Hillary bashing over Bill? Check. Edwards bashing over his wealth? Check. Gore bashing for his… wait for it… utility bills? Check.
Yep. I’d say the republican wingnuts are in full panic mode. Cant find anything substantial to attack a candidate with? No problem. Just take a shot at their ethnic heritage, their spouses, their success, their cause….
Suppose anyone is investigating a dem candidate’s dog yet?
Check. hehehehehe.
Let the wingnut panic continue !!!!!!
I have a suggestion. No more horseshit cites from O’Reilly’s shill organization, “NewsBusters.org” nor the “Tennesee Center for Policy Research”. They are nothing but propaganda faucets constantly dripping and a waste of everybodys’ time wading through them. If you don’t have anything to add other than cutting and pasting in drivel and websites, just remain silent until you have an original thought to share, please. Then, we’ll listen.
“How does anyone know that thoes numbers are real? you notice that they never asked Gore or his people about the bills…”
“Kalee Kreider, Gore’s spokeswoman, doesn’t dispute the numbers the report is based on but says the numbers need a little context.”
Keep defending the indefensible.
Gosh fleetie, good to see you back after you were gone the EXACT same time as nutz. Nutz disapears, and fleetie goes too. Nutz returns, fleetie does too.
Maybe fleetie is the reason nutz has to choose if he is gay or straight? How did the choice go?
How did you like the ski trip fleetie? heheheheheheh
If that’s all you got, it’s all you got.
So, if Al Gore is a big hypocrite, then Global Warming isn’t real?
Keep trying, Wingnuts. The facts obviously don’t like you, and phony character assassination is all you’ve got.
GSheridan,
I see you’re back for another round of acting out on the blog, in which you alternate between playing the victim and the bully.
And I see, once again, the studied nonchalance with which you try to dismiss Al Gore. Same as with that other object of your overheated, Wingnut obsession, Barack Obama. The sure sign that you fear them and want to do a little Swiftboating of your own, like the Big Girls do.
Transparent, GSheridan is.
The Tennessee Center for Policy Research is not considered a legitimate organization in TN.
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section=9&screen=news&news_id=54656
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/02/28/al_gore_basher_prominent_on_fox_news_not_legitimate_organization.php
Fleety, you and your people keep posting lies. You are very good at it.
All BS. Its not that they really care about the enviroment more than upstaging and looking good in front of their Hollywood clique.
Carbon credits? LOL! Silly!
“Fleety, you and your people keep posting lies.”
What lies? Gore’s spokesman didn’t call them lies.
“Kalee Kreider, Gore’s spokeswoman, doesn’t dispute the numbers the report is based on but says the numbers need a little context.”
“go back to Salina, you lying scum bag.”
Scintillating commentary, Davis.
The above local story about the Tennessee Center for Policy Research indicates that they are against the TN “crack tax” – a state law that requires crack dealers to pay taxes on their products or face additional charges. The TCforPR says the tax is unfair and unconstitutional. Apparently they fail to get it, that the tax is a way to enhance the penalties on crack dealers.
Anybody else finding this terribly amusing that far right nuts are aligning with an organization that is defending crack dealers. I’m telling ya, we need to pay these comedians some money — they are too funny, they’re killing me…
“Scintillating commentary, Davis.”
Glad to see you are defending your brethen today, GolfGut.
“Suppose anyone is investigating a dem candidate’s dog yet?”
Dems have dogs? Well, I guess if the neo-cons are going to the dogs, the liberals might as well own them too.
(Morning kfg)
should be “brethren” – above…
“What lies? Gore’s spokesman didn’t call them lies.”
and “Carbon credits are silly”
Okay, Thanks for straightening me out.
Tell me how Carbon Credits help the enviroment Steven?
I’m not trying to disprove global warming or its danger, but carbon credits does help. Just makes the big carbon producers feel better, but doesn’t do nothing for results.
If I read you right, RM, you want to place restrictions on who can do investigative journalism? Alright, for instance, how long would it have taken for the NYT to break a story critical of Al Gore? How about never. Maybe that’s what you want, I don’t know.
But this story is admittedly legit. And the strategy by the Gore apologists here is not to address it. Can’t say that I blame them.
It was also discussed a couple of evenings ago on an open thread.
carbon credtis doesn’t help rather.
Al Gore is no Ralph Nader, which is my mind is the real deal and no hypocrit either. Brighter and more articulate too. Saved more lives than any activist.
GS! WELCOME BACK! Bring any evidence to support your libel against TRACY?
I see now instead of ebsessing over Obama’s dick you are obsessing over “the kiss”!
Still not getting any?
Isnt it interesting that GS left the same day as nutz and came back the same day as nutz? And fleetie? And I see kswolverine has returned.
Not saying GS is the same person as nutz. I just think they travel in a pack and she’s afraid to come here when her buddy and fellow shill nutz isnt here to protect her from the big bad liberals on the blog.
GS blatently lied about Tracy. So if you guys are defending her, you are defending a dishonored liar. Which says more about you and YOURS than any blogger could type.
I did a little research on “tippy” this weekend. Funny, but she doesnt post this crap over at lonely blog. Is it because they are more intensely moderated over there? Or because she gets paid to shill over here? Enquiring minds want to know.
OK, back to ignoring the ignorable here.
Mornin’ KFG & gang.And concerning swifting dem candidates…….has anybody else noticed the LACK of dems doing this to repugs?so far anyway……
Yes it was discussed on an open thread Outlander.
I asked YOU how it was that you and your bible banging could find yourself comfortable defending those who destroy your “God’s” creation. I asked you why it was you attacked a man (Al Gore) was doing more to defend that creation than you or anyone else in America.
You bailed.
Of course.
Al Gore can do what he wants. He fights the good fight. He can have my carbon credits. I walk or ride a bike anywhere I have to go that is less than 2 miles.
And besides outie, the faux Christian, who we got here?
Well we got fleetie..and the goofnut. I think it’s pretty clear now that this is fat Dave with two personalities.And LOOK it’s strip miners daughter and energy shill GSheridan.
Hey get that kook Rosell in here. Make the peanut gallery complete. And sadly, Outlander can take his seat with them.
“Just makes the big carbon producers feel better, but doesn’t do nothing for results.”
IMHO, you are generally on the right track, Joe. I would say instead, they don’t do nearly enough in terms of results.
But, don’t you think the crack dealer defenders and Republicans being on the same side is beautiful irony? Politics does make for some strange bedfellows.
I must have missed that. Crack dealers?
JR: You should go back and read the open thread. Your statement is simply not true.
You also did just what I stated above. You didn’t address Gore’s hypocrisy, but rather did what you usually don’t do; you cast a blind eye to it.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have a problem so much with his fuel use, as I do to his preaching what he does but not living it.
Well DAMN outlander, if we are talking about preaching it and not living it….
…what about Ted Haggard? You defended him and the asswipe preacher in Tulsa.
So, this preaching it and living it thingy is only for democrats? Evangelical ministers and republicans like jeff gannon are exempt?
Thanks for clearing that up.
BTW, maybe we arent foaming at the mouth about Gore like you are because we think this is no big deal and he hasnt done anything wrong.
Just letting the right side of the blog rant and rave and spin and fling spittle all over is the best defense Gore could have. Even IF he has done nothing wrong.
Hell outie. I thought you LIKED do gooders!
Oh, and righties, even if Gore is not perfect, bushco and the republicans have done exactly WHAT to mitigate global warming?
Please explain how this preznit, dead eye dick, and the republican house and senate have BETTER defended the environment than GORE.
Oh and JR, I consider myself an environmentalist. I photograph wildlife as a hobby. But I don’t agree with the extremists.
And, kfg, I already used that angle on the open thread, except to point out how the left butchered the Christian leaders for hypocrisy (not unreasonably), but not Saint Al Gore). See no evil.
You can go read if you want.
Oh, I see. So it’s hypocrisy when we do it, but not when you do it?
Thanks for clearing that up….
Oh, and KFG, I don’t don’t know why you think you have to lie. I didn’t defend Haggard’s actions.
“Please explain how this preznit, dead eye dick, and the republican house and senate have BETTER defended the environment than GORE.”
Still waiting….
“I consider myself an environmentalist.”
Oh I see! You attack the one person doing more in advocacy of the environment than anyone else.
Oh ok!
I consider MYSELF a Christian!YOU know, since I make a habit of attacking Christians.
This position was truly surprising from you Outlander. MANY Christians are coming to see that they should be good stewards of the Earth. I’m sorry you are not one of them.
Conflict of interest? Energy stocks maybe?
“I must have missed that. Crack dealers?”
Go to the first link in my 8:30 AM post. It is explained in that story. These guys are so FAR RIGHT they end up on the LEFT – an example of the circular continuum if I ever saw one.
Funny, haven’t heard any wingers defending their crack dealer advocacy…
So you’re point is that Al Gore should be immune to hypocrisy charges because he does good?
If you want to see outlanders comments regarding teddy haggard, click here. It’s good for a laugh, ’cause it is the same thread where nutz professed that he has to chose if he is straight or gay. Fun times….
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/02/miracle_alert_h.html#comments
Oh, and outie?
“”Please explain how this preznit, dead eye dick, and the republican house and senate have BETTER defended the environment than GORE.”
Still waiting….
I doubt this is the first time a Documentary was Politically based. I’m unsure if this is a way to promote an agenda though. That is, by giving an award meant mainly for entertainment to Documentaries.
I suppose if someone wanted to challenge the movie “An Inconvenient Truth”, they could sue under the Federal “equal time” laws.
Haven’t seen the movie, but I doubt there is much contention on Climate change and whether or not it is happening. If the premise is going Green, I’m all for it.
Outed: You have totally missed my point. Bill O’Reilly is the Goebbels of the new millenium. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see he’s nothing but a shill, maybe that why you and GS are so drawn to him. I don’t know.
I’m all for investigative journalism. I’m adamantly against what I can “Warren Commission” journalism. Make up a premise. Seek out any information supporting that premise. Disregard any information contrary to that premise. Discover the “truth”!!!
And I’m not taking sides here — both sides play that game — and I find it offensive and, more importantly, an insult to my intelligence.
outlander,
The Gores work out of their home. This makes the comparison with the energy usages of residential customers dishonest and misleading.
Does Al Gore consume more energy than I do? Hell yes. He’s a former VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. The demands on his time, the number of people deals with, and his family obligations, all indicate that it’s reasonable to expect that he’ll use more energy.
So fuckin’ what?
What you’re really assuming, outlander, is that liberals aren’t like other people. Get over it. We use gas, too. We use electricity, too. And when we’re FORMER VICE-PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES, we live a certain way.
Al Gore isn’t Gandhi. He isn’t Mother Theresa. He’s a politician who’s delivering a message. If he behaved as you seem to suggest he ought to in order not to be a ‘hypocrite,’ then you’d still criticize him. Doesn’t matter what he does: the shameless Right Wing would go on attacking and assassinating as he does.
Well, you know what? If Al Gore needs to use the amount of energy he uses in order to get the message out regarding Global Warming, and if that’s the only way to do it–and given the structure and setup of our current society, it IS the only way–then that’s fine by me.
Give the Right Wing credit: even when they know they’re wrong, they keep their smile pasted into place.
Outlander
Please name for me a greater advocate for environmental stewardship than Al Gore.
What is your charge of hypocrisy? He travels a lot?
SO ….what he should hitch hike to get out the message global climate change?
I think you just don’t want his message out. That is why you are attacking him with bogus charges.
ksfarmgrrl,
That’s a SERIOUS greatest blog hit. One for the highlight reel.
Carbon Credits. The idea here is to control the total emissions of carbon. (This has been done with sulfur before). Credits are issued to existing entities – utilities etc. Then we move toward limiting the totals allowed. Suppose it would cost me $x to decrease by 10% but, by doing an entire rework of my operations I can reduce by 50% for just $2x. So, I do that and sell my excess credits on the open market to someone who cannot as easily retrofit. Credits are traded on the commodities markets. This encourages technological innovation by rewarding those who can really clean up.
Ok KFG, let’s say that Al Gore has done good. He is way overblown but some are way too unconcerned. The extremes define the center.
So what about my question? Let’s hear your answer.
So you’re point is that Al Gore should be immune to hypocrisy charges because he does good?
Outed: Now you have lost me! I’m sure, somewhere along the way, once upon a time, Charlie Manson, Dennis Rader, and Ted Bundy all did something kind and gentle and “good”. So what?
Outie, I asked YOU a question first. I’ll answer yours AFTER you answer mine. You dont get to dodge a question by asking another question.
I’ll repeat the question I asked you BEFORE you asked me.
“Please explain how this preznit, dead eye dick, and the republican house and senate have BETTER defended the environment than GORE.”
The part about you loving do gooders was sarcasm, in case you didnt get it.
Patience RM. You are getting ahead a little. I’m still waiting for the answer to my question.
That he does good, and therefore his conduct should not be questioned, is the only real defense of Gore that I have heard.
they could sue under the Federal “equal time” laws.
Uh, Uncle William, ya need to do a little research.
THERE ARE NO FEDERAL EQUAL TIME LAWS ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!! (thanks clark!)
It’s called the “fairness doctrine” and those damn librals are trying to bring it back…
Let’s have your hypocrisy charges defined Outlander.
You will have to do your homework here. Just saying he lives in a big house or travels alot does not make Al Gore a hypocrite. As a former Vice President he has issues the average citizen does not. This is NOT his choice. It is a matter of secret service security.
They haven’t kfg.
Now answer my question.
Notice how outie continues to dodge the question asked of him?
Notice how he clings to a sarcastic comment about him loving do gooders? How he acts like that is a serious arguement? heheheheh
Outie, if you are not going to answer my original question, just say so.
Or answer. Anyone wanna bet he wont, but he will continue to hammer the do gooder comment? I NEVER said do gooders should get a pass on anything. Post where I said that outie.
Then answer the question.
Outie, your question is based on a false premise. I NEVER said do gooders should get a pass. On anything.
Hell, if that was the case Jim Bakker would have never been convicted of ANY charges.
No outie, I dont think do gooders should get a pass.
And thanks for admitting you just wanna bash gore, not really advocate for the environment. Oh, and thanks for clearing up your views on hypocrisy. We see clearly now how you love defending the “preach it but dont live it” evangelicals.
I find it very interesting how the librats here are so intimidated by little old me posting some inconvenient truths (pun intended) – that the veins are popping out on the sides of their necks. lol
The simple fact is – Al Gore is a waste of skin and his comments about creating the Internet say a LOT about his integrity – it’s in the crapper.
But, what’s new?
Well, you’re doing it again kfg. Just like the end of the thread you posted. You make things up and you refuse to answer questions. That is your usual debating style. And you will claim you win debates when others get disgusted with your lies and evasiveness and quit.
ksfarmgrrl
The Fairness Doctrine doesn’t exist on the books anymore and the “Equal Time” provision is a completely different statute addressing issues such as a TV station using their airtime to promote a political agenda.
One could argue that Gore’s message was politically motivated and equal time could be sought. The action sought would likely fail since it was under the format of a documentary.
Outlander – KFG is a librat – that’s how they operate. They duck and weave and make up stuff.
And they MUST claim they win debates – because no one else will ever say they do.
“Equal Time” provision is a completely different statute addressing issues such as a TV station using their airtime to promote a political agenda.”
UW, if that were true, Fux news would be off the air. Please post the active equal time statute.
Outie, please post what I “made up”.
I answered your “do gooder” question twice.
If there are any other questions I failed to answer, please repost.
You are grasping at straws dude.
And I notice that the “right side of the blog means you never have to say you are sorry” for deliberately LYING about Tracy.
Dishonor, thy name is….
See? I’m sure it would be news to Tracy that I’ve lied about him!
Outlander – she meant me – but she’s obviously foaming at the mouth in a rage and got confused. lol
No rage, just facts. The blog queen bee has been PROVEN to be a liar and yet she will not apologize.
If posting facts is rage, you must be the most “rageless” person in the world.
GS is the one who is posting in dishonor here. Outie? Yer just sad….
I’m still waiting for you to repost what I made up, or any questions I am dodging.
KFG- I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt- if indeed you are foaming at the mouth, it must be very stylish at the least!
Cf: Sorry not reply to your post earlier. Things were moving pretty fast.
I would like to hear good reasons for Mr. Gore’s fuel use, which is, on it’s face, not what you’d expect from an environmental leader. But other than you, all I got were counter-attacks and how dare you question Al because he does a lot of good. It seems disingenuous. And tells a lot about human behavior.
This will blow over soon, as everything does. Let me ask you a question. Do you think Gore will run for president in 2008?
ksfarmgrll,
If a political agenda service message in support of a political candidate was presented on Fox News, then equal time could be sought.
With that said, documentaries and newscasts do not qualify for equal time.
It is a fine distinction and hard to decipher sometimes.
However, one could request equal time under the Equal Time ruling to Fox News and I imagine they would get it if the Court decided it qualified under current law.
Outlander – KFG only lies when she breathes.
If you want a good example – take a look at the thread a couple of weeks ago where she was totally proven a liar on her economic claims about HOlcomb power by the Gamble Study.
She crawled off that thread with her tail between her legs, calling a professor that she ‘claimed’ to respect, of being biased.
And, sure, gster – she’s got class……LOW class. lol
GS, MORE LIES!!!
I cited the Gamble study BEFORE YOU DID! And Ralph Gamble was PAID BY SUNFLOWER to do the study. OUTSIDE of his job at Ft. Hays. He did it as a paid private consultant.
Please post where I said Ralph was biased.
Please repost any lies from me.
Hell, I’ll post a link to the thread where GS was completely humiliated by posting about BATs instead of BIRDS.
The only bats are in YOUR belfry, farmie.
In the thread where you high-tailed it out of there – you insinuated Gamble might have been biased. Quite lying about it now.
Just the fact that you STILL have to bring up the fact that the study wasn’t funded by the University implies you STILL are questioning his integrity.
He totally trashed your weak predictions with actual numbers and facts.
You lost.
I’m sure you’re used to losing.
God, you’re a hoot, GSher, a goddamned knee-slapper. You accuse others of foaming at the mouth, yet you start out with foaming and kick it up a notch from there.
Damn, you are one hilarious, batshit crazy lunatic.
Do you work comedy clubs in your spare time?
Why WSClark? You gonna try and hunt me down and challeng me? Like you did before?
Oooooohhhh….. I’m really scared. Can you feel my keyboard trembling?
LOL – you’re a hoot – that much is sure.
Jeez, GSher, I thought you were leaving – done with shooting fish in a barrel?
I have this mental image of you GSher – sort of like the Wicked Witch of the West, just fatter and uglier, banging away at your keyboard while drooling and spitting about LIBERALS!
But have a nice day!
Well outie you are in FINE company!
The “environmentalist” Outlander who attacks a fellow environmentalist Al Gore AND the KNOWN liar and fossil fuels shill GSHeridan.
Ewww Outie you better go shower.
I have to apologize. The Wicked Witch of the West called and she is damned pissed off that I compared GSher to her.
I retract my statement.
GSheridan,
I seem to recall an exchange last week when you misrepresented the stipulations of the Iraq Liberation Act, and I called you out on it. In fact, I called you a liar for misrepresenting Clinton’s position regarding ‘regime change’ in Iraq. Had you dead to rights. No surprise, then, that you ran away and have been running away from a direct confrontation ever since.
Classic pathological Right Wing liar, you are, GSheridan: projecting all of your own habits and practices onto opponents who have defeated you in a debate.
Given GSheridan’s demonstrated tendency to alternatively play the bully and the victim, and her vaguely unsettling habit of responding flirtatiously to sexually demeaning comments, I read GSheridan as something like a female version of CrusaderX / Will.
The posts will likely cross.
I’ll BET that before or shortly after I post this that GSHEeridan will flee the field.
WOW!WE Blog: Home of full-contact blogging!
This is better than mud wrestling!
Fact = Gamble was paid by sunflower.
Fact = Cosmos and I both posted multiple times that the Gamble study SUPPORTS what we said.
Fact = You posted about BATS (mammals) being killed instead of BIRDS being killed. And then denied it.
Facts, the ultimate bias eh?
The thought of you out of your pants is disgusting, not a turn on.
In my world, yer a “double bagger” remember? It would take TWO bags over your head and duct tape over your mouth to.. well… never mind.
The thought is just too sickening.
G’Ster – are you referring to mud wrestling as a particpant or spectator sport?
I’m on the sidelines- here’s mud in yer eye, and maybe every where else.
My post did cross C Fs
Damn CF you busted GSheridan as a liar too? Oh whe WILL run for the tall grass now!
She can’t keep her lies straight enough to ever land a point.
Outlander.
Specific examples of Al Gore’s “hypocrisy” please.
OR you could just admit you posted out of turn. You do not get to make a point unless you can defend it.
Well ….you CAN. But in GSheridan we already HAVE one blog clown.
J R,
To the contrary: in GSHeridan we have a Volkswagen Beetle FULL of clowns.
“The thought of you out of your pants is disgusting, not a turn on.”
Jesus H., Farm Grrl!!! I was making lunch for my son and I when I read that. My freakin’ gag threshold was exceeded by leaps and bounds. It was an ugly scene.
Damn!!!
I think I am going to have to lie down for a while.
Oh, and crooks and liars has the video setting the record correct as to Gore’s energy use.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×307850
Hee hee hee I posted the DU link ’cause I know the righties wont click on it.
AND….
The utility company says it never provided Gore’s bills. Wonder how the reich wing got ahold of them?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17369241/
…and another little link that shows Cheney’s electric bill is ELEVEN TIMES HIGHER than Gore’s.
But then, we all know dead eye dick’s take on energy conservation.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×303891
…and before outie gets his panties in a knot about hypocrisy…
I’ll give him another preacher pervert/pedophile to defend.
http://www.abpnews.com/1780.article
…and a little link RIPPING the bush misadministration for it’s environmentally destructive stances.
Outie was RIGHT when he said bushco had done NOTHING to protect the environment. At least Al does!
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-106349
Grrrl’s goin’ on a tear, ah tell you what…
ksfarmgrrl,
Here is a link to Cornell Law School that displays portions of the law for Equal Time law.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000315—-000-.html
I don’t think the blog readers would appreciate me putting the full text here.
Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:
1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.
It’s the latest in a series of desperate attacks by Drudge to paint Gore as a hypocrite. Some other examples:
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Drudge Blows It: Latest Attack On Gore’s Global Warming Stance Falls FlatThis morning, the Drudge Report has an enormous headline implying that Al Gore got it wrong in his movie, An Inconvient Truth, when he said that global warming would create more intense storms:
First, Gore never predicted that there would be more storms in 2006. He said that global warming made it more likely that there would be more intense hurricanes in the future.
Second, the fact that there were fewer hurricanes in 2006 does not suggest that global warming is not real or not dangerous. There are other factors — on a year-to-year basis — that can reduce the number and intensity of hurricanes. The article Drudge links to makes it clear that these factors were in play:
Storms were starved for fuel after ingesting masses of dry Saharan dust and air over the Atlantic Ocean. Scientists say the storm-snuffing dust was more abundant than usual this year.
In the season’s peak, storms were curving right like errant field goals. High pressure that normally hunkers near Bermuda shifted far eastward, and five storms rode the clockwise winds away from Florida.
Finally, a rapidly growing El Nino, a warming of water over the tropical Pacific Ocean, shifted winds high in the atmosphere southward. The winds left developing storms disheveled and unable to become organized.
Notably, none of this suggests that future years will be a repeat of 2006. The Saharan dust, for example, may not be around in significant quantities next year. The Tampa Tribune notes, “This year’s uneventful season provides no assurance that next year will be as calm: The Atlantic remains in a 20- to 30-year cycle of high hurricane activity that started in 1995. Water temperatures are above normal.”
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Drudge: stupid or willfully ignorant?
Comment by Publicus — November 27, 2006 @ 10:28 am
So drudge is lying what else is new? And it wont matter to the wingnuts as truth is never a factor in their rantings.
Comment by klyde — November 27, 2006 @ 10:30 am
Did he attack “Happy Feet” Yet?BTW: Great movie for kids!
Comment by S.D. — November 27, 2006 @ 10:31 am
Looks like Drudge ‘blew it’.They do lead the internet in huge bursts of windy bullhsit, however.
Comment by Zimzone — November 27, 2006 @ 10:31 am
Idiot.
Comment by mparker — November 27, 2006 @ 10:32 am
Drudge: stupid or willfully ignorant?Comment by Publicus
Both.
This has been: simple answers to a simple questions.
Comment by klyde — November 27, 2006 @ 10:33 am
Hmm, first they argue that climate changes occur over long periods of time (thousands of years, which I agree with, though I also agree that man kind is changing this.), then they say a short term issue of low hurricane activity this year decides it that global warming is not for real. I’m so confused, is it long term or is it short term that conservatives look at?
Comment by Mark — November 27, 2006 @ 10:34 am
Drudge Blows It
Thats not a headline. That is a daily occurence. A headline would be if he got anything right.
Comment by dlet — November 27, 2006 @ 10:36 am
I’ve been waiting for this, an attack on the science of climate change, based on one season…….The coastal regions dodged a big bullet this year, another bad season could have created tremendous ruin for the whole nation.We could all be greatful, and use the gift of time to prepare for potentialy worse seasons than 2005.Ask Mr. Drudge if he is now investing in real estate developement in coastal areas, based on this past seasons number of storms…
Comment by aguafiero — November 27, 2006 @ 10:47 am
“Specious Present” – “A short period of time in which change and duration are alleged to be directly experienced.”
That’s it in a nutshell. Loser Drudge is in the specious present where he alleges to experience global climate change in a single season.
What an ass.
Comment by crackbaby — November 27, 2006 @ 10:47 am
Notably, none of this suggests that future years will be a repeat of 2007.
You meant 2006.
Comment by Crust — November 27, 2006 @ 10:48 am
Judd,How do we get a repeat of 2007? Did I miss something?
Comment by WaltTheMan — November 27, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Who is stupider: Drudge or the readers who believe him?
Comment by RealScientist — November 27, 2006 @ 10:49 am
#7…In my observations, “conservatives” as we know them today, only look at the short term regarding any issue.
Comment by aguafiero — November 27, 2006 @ 10:50 am
I see. One year of moderate hurricane activity is robust statistical evidence that global warming is a myth.
Drudge is a partisan hack and an idiot.
Comment by New Yorker — November 27, 2006 @ 10:57 am
By the way, the Mexican/eastern Pacific hurricane cycle was very active; the last one named Sergio, about two weeks ago.
Comment by helenahandbasket — November 27, 2006 @ 10:57 am
a family tradition is to go to the movies thanksgiving evening… my mom and one sister – a nun who teaches 4th grade in a catholic school – went to see ‘happy feet’… they commented that they were surprised that the movie had such a distinct message… they thought it was just going to be a happy little cartoon… i wouldn’t let them get negative about it, giving high praise that such a message is reaching the young generation… they agreed and my sister said that she teaches about global warming in her classroom… she has not seen ‘an inconvenient truth’ yet, but after my recommendation she will… i also explained about the wingers who are upset about ‘happy feet’ having such an important message so that she can be ready for those comments… she is a very progressive nun, btw… nothing like the those who ran our school back in the day…
Comment by katy — November 27, 2006 @ 11:01 am
Who is stupider: Drudge or the readers who believe him?Comment by RealScientist
Comment by klyde — November 27, 2006 @ 11:01 am
By that logic, if Gore is wrong this year, he was right last year. Maybe he can break even?
Comment by Benjamin — November 27, 2006 @ 11:04 am
Atlantic hurricanes are formed when the Atlantic is warm. The warmer the water, the more potential there is for intense storms. But hurricane formation is also dependent on a number of atmospheric variables. One of the variables that apparently decreases the likelihood of Atlantic hurricanes hitting North America is the El Nino condition in the Pacific. Of course, as most of us know, El Nino is caused by warming of the Pacific.
Both conditions, more intense hurricanes and El Nino, are caused by warmer than normal ocean water. Maybe this simple paradox is just too complex for some right-wingers to grasp.
As Al Gore stated in An Inconvenient Truth, “It’s difficult for people to understand something when their income depends on them not understanding it.”
Comment by lw — November 27, 2006 @ 11:08 am
He’s obsessed with global warming, so much so that he makes an idiot of himself.
Dumbass!
Comment by Anon1 — November 27, 2006 @ 11:12 am
This morning, the Drudge Report has an enormous headline implying that Al Gore got it wrong in his movie, An Inconvient Truth…
Oh please….it’s DRUDGE.
Comment by Zooey — November 27, 2006 @ 11:12 am
DRUDGE = ESTABLISHMENT TOOL
The War on Science continues…
Comment by Technodaoist — November 27, 2006 @ 11:18 am
Global Warming is a generally accepted scientific fact. In political circles it has progressed to the level that gun control is: It is an issue that everyone wants to be percieved as doing something about without actually doing anything about because then the issue will go away and they won’t be able to get any votes from it. In the meantime, they have to assure the public that they are not in any immediate danger.
Remember, a politician will say anything to get elected; even the truth.
Comment by Swordsbane — November 27, 2006 @ 11:21 am
The term “global warming” has too many sylables in it and by default suggest it will take neoKKKons decades to understand the concept.
suffer the ignorant for a time?
Comment by YouCantHandleDaTruth — November 27, 2006 @ 11:24 am
whether gore “blew it” is a topic not worth discussing.
what is noteworthy: the across-the-board failure to accurately predict a hurricane season with below-average activity. looking back on the preseason predictions, every “expert” forecaster predicted not only greater-than-usual activity but more intense hurricanes. both were flat wrong.
two items of note:
(1) what does the reveal about the forecasters themselves? were they quick on the draw to forecast an over-active season? were the motivated by more than the science? i don’t think it was politics that influenced their predictions — but i wouldn’t be surprised if it was weighty public pressure.
(2) “the boy who cried wolf” scenario. the human toll in new orleans was largely a function of years of hurricane warnings that never materialized. when people are told “the storm is coming!” and it doesn’t, they doubt the accuracy of the forecasters.
although it may not have been a conscious decision to predict such a threatening season, i can’t help but think that the katrina/rita effect, along with all the public discourse about global warming and its effect on hurricanes somehow coaxed the forecasters to put their thumbs on the scale.
Hey MOTHER, ltns! Heheheheheh
UW, I looked at your link. Is that law still in effect?
It is equal time for CANDIDATES not issues. Last I checked, Gore wasnt a candidate for anything.
And this part of the law would not apply to his documentary.
“No obligation is imposed under this subsection upon any licensee to allow the use of its station by any such candidate. Appearance by a legally qualified candidate on any—(1) bona fide newscast,(2) bona fide news interview,(3) bona fide news documentary (if the appearance of the candidate is incidental to the presentation of the subject or subjects covered by the news documentary), or(4) on-the-spot coverage of bona fide news events (including but not limited to political conventions and activities incidental thereto)
Well let’s see about KFG’s link. As i understand it, Gore did not sign up for “green energy” until this all was coming out. Olberman did his part to misrepresent that and to attack those who disclosed the facts, not the facts themselves.
He used to be so good on ESPN.
And kfg, you lied again about my ever defending a child abuser or pervert, especially any supposed minister.
I will not address you again kfg, except by third person.
And, wouldn’t apply to the documentary due to the fact that it is a movie, and not a produced for television/radio show. BTW, don’t think any of this is still in effect, but I’m not going to do any research.
Readers should read my links for themselves and not rely on outie’s opinon of such.
I’ve already posted links where outie defended haggard and his buddy in Tulsa. I guess they are not child molesters, just perverts. But I also guess perverts is open to definition.
To outie, all gay folks are perverts and all christians are ok no matter WHAT they do.
“I will not address you again kfg, except by third person.”
OOOOOOH! I’m wounded. hehehehe
Outie sure is a sore loser when you push him on the facts.
Outlander
I invite you again to demonstrate hypocrisy on the part of Al Gore.
This is very serious for your credibility here out.
You posting this thread is one thing. But you also made a point to level the hypocrisy charge against Gore on an open thread. You will need to make your case.
I’d rather make a friend for this cause then defeat an enemy. Please tell me Outlander, why is it wrong to address climate change proactively as Gore does? Why attack him?
And have you seen “An Inconvenient Truth”?
As it turns out the “non-partisan” group in TN is actually headed by the American Enterprise Institute that has been going after Gore for years.
While it’s true that Gore uses more electricity than the average household he also has a house larger than the average household. His house has 20 rooms and a guest house. The utility company says that when you adjust for the size of his house he uses just as much electricity as the average person but he does pay a higher rate for energy from renewable resources.
So is he a hypocrite? It appears that is isn’t the case. Is the American Enterprise Institute fudging the facts and is the conservative media once again failing to doublecheck it’s info? That would appear to be true.
Ah, Doug, do ya really think that the conservatives would bullshit us?
Really?
I always thought that they were the party of VALUES.
Jeez, next you’re going to tell me that someone has found the remains of Jesus in a tomb in Jerusalem.
Come on, JR. Why do you want me to repeat the basis of the thread and the subject report?
And I have not criticize Gore for what he does, other than to say I think he is over the top and alarmist. He serves his purpose in keeping the issue on the front burner. But I don’t agree with some of his conclusions. Even if I describe myself as an environmentalist, that does not mean that I have to agree with, or especially venerate the man.
And no, I have not seen his movie JR.
OMG, I am ROLLING on the floor laughing.
Outie? You said this? “And I have not criticize Gore for what he does, other than to say I think he is over the top and alarmist.”
Dude, you cant even keep your lies straight for one entire morning!!
hehehehehehe. Have you already forgotten your FIRST POST on this thread?
” Mr. Gore is a leader in environmentalist movement. But he has not been walking the walk.
Posted by: outlander | February 28, 2007 at 04:16 AM ”
Keep on crawfishin’ boy. Keep on crawfishin’!
I encourage you Outlander to see the documentary.
It is available on DVD. I think Showtime will be airing it in March.
The hypocrisy charge has been fairly done away with here.
“More celebrities than ever arrived at the Kodak Theatre in gas-efficient hybrids.”
I would wager those were just the ’show cars’. Only for the cameras and the increased numbers were to show support for. Gore.
Of course they returned that night to a 10,000+ sq. ft. mansion with six cars in the garage.
They do not want to set an example on how people should live. No, it’s so much easier to get the government to force that lifestyle on everyone else.
“I would wager those were just the ’show cars’. Only for the cameras and the increased numbers were to show support for. Gore.”
.. and you have some INSIDE information, PM? Any facts? Links? Photos?
Did you forget this post at 10:41 outie?
“I would like to hear good reasons for Mr. Gore’s fuel use, which is, on it’s face, not what you’d expect from an environmental leader.”
But still you say “And I have not criticize Gore for what he does, other than to say I think he is over the top and alarmist.”
heheheeh. But oh yeah, he isnt speaking to me anymore.
How conveeeeeeenient.
Er.. the 2nd poster above with the initials kfg is well, pathetic. Of course, that is the point of the whole thread. Jeesh!
I’ll wager proudman has not seen the documentary either…
I wonder…curiously…
Clearly there have been ice ages and warm periods throughout the history of our planet – LONG before we started burning fossil fuels and enabling cow flatulence.
What caused those climate changes?
Answer: the sun.
What’s causing our current 0.2° increase?
Answer: the sun.
What can we do about it?
Answer: nada.
Goodness, not only is Nut an expert on women, business, moral values, politics, etc., but now he is a scientist that knows more than ALL of the scientists that are concerned about global warming.
Of course, this is the same Golf Nut that claims that he is a chick magnet.
What about the meteors that struck Earth and caused the demise of dinosaurs and the onset of an Ice Age (as the theory goes)?
Commonsense WSClark. Those people have an image to project. I do not believe multi-millionaire entertainers actually live using on the smallest amount of energy they need.
Besides, how many shows on “The Fabulous Life of . . .” do you need before it dawns on you that they may be using more than their ‘fair share’ of energy?
And golfer confuses Milankovitch cycles with the sun. I wonder how much science he has ever taken?
gster – The K-T was a whole lot more than just an ice age.
So, in other words, PM, you just made up shit up?
golfnut,
“Answer: the sun.”
Are you claiming that the greenhouse effect, discovered by Joseph Fourier in 1824, has NO impact on our Earth?
Earth would be 86 degrees F. cooler without it. Brrrrrr..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect
What about the HUGE amounts of CO2 and methane we’ve added to Earth’s atmosphere? What about the potent CFC’s and other man-made GHG’s?
Ben- You’re right- I didn’t word my statement very well.
ProudMan,
“I would wager those were just the ’show cars’.”
You lose. And the Oscars will be even more efficient in the future.
http://www.nrdc.org/media/2007/070225.asp“Results included:
* Energy audit of Kodak Theatre; efficiency plan and recommendations.* Renewable energy credits were purchased from Bonneville Environmental Foundation to offset carbon emissions from pre-show, red-carpet event, Oscar telecast, and Governor’s Ball.* Use of ecologically superior paper for telecast and non-telecast event materials such as nomination ballots, envelopes, press materials, programs, invitations, and certificates.* Hybrid vehicle transportation provided for presenters and staff.* Comprehensive recycling system instituted for event waste.* Crew meals and craft services included reusable service materials and accessories, post-consumer tissue products, and biodegradable dishware.* Governors’ Ball menu featured organic and environmentally-friendly food, including seafood, dairy, produce, and even the large chocolate Oscar.* Left-over Governor’s Ball food donated to Angel Harvest.”
I gave my opinion. Notice how I wrote, “I wager”.
If I just ‘made shit up’ it would be very funny and the crap would be coming out of your ass, not your mouth.
AlGore = Energy Pig x 12
“The Gores used about 191,000 kilowatt hours in 2006, according to bills reviewed by The Associated Press. The typical Nashville household uses about 15,600 kilowatt-hours per year.”
Are you people still defending this guy?
* Renewable energy credits were purchased from Bonneville Environmental Foundation to offset carbon emissions from pre-show, red-carpet event, Oscar telecast, and Governor’s Ball.–This is a load of crap. Basically pay off someone or something to make yourself feel better about your contributions to the problem.
* Use of ecologically superior paper for telecast and non-telecast event materials such as nomination ballots, envelopes, press materials, programs, invitations, and certificates.–Paper is paper. Really want to make a difference? E-vite. LOL
* Hybrid vehicle transportation provided for presenters and staff.–Why did it take until 2007 for this?
* Comprehensive recycling system instituted for event waste.–Why did it take until 2007 for this?
* Crew meals and craft services included reusable service materials and accessories, post-consumer tissue products, and biodegradable dishware.–Paperplates. Nice touch. All you have to do with china is wash it. They could have hired a bunch of homeless as dishwashers as well LOL* Governors’ Ball menu featured organic and environmentally-friendly food, including seafood, dairy, produce, and even the large chocolate Oscar.–How environmentally friendly were all their stools afterwards? LOL* Left-over Governor’s Ball food donated to Angel Harvest.”–Who promptly thru it away versus giving all of their clients salmonella poisoning.
Libertards.
cosmos,
I’m referring to the stars themselves, not the organization behind the Oscars. I’m also discussing what they do with their personal lives as opposed to a public show. So when you find some website saying that the production company, or the show, is ‘green’ you partially prove my point. After all, those were ’show cars’. . .
Thanks for playing.
As usual the insightful and knowledgeable, urban and cultured comments on this site make me want to wash my mind out with soap.
Facts are facts. Mr Gore talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk, but this is no surprise- his kind rarely does. He is pretentious and hypocritical, with his I’m just a regular guy routine. He’s rich, his wife is richer and while I have no problem with that, I do have a problem with him telling me I have to recycle, reduce and reuse while he jets off to Hollyweird to accept the Oscar for a piece of fiction, not unlike his claim that he invented the internet.
His VERY large home in Nashville uses 20 times the energy that the average American home uses and you can bet when he travels his entourage uses more gas in a day than most of us use a mouth.
Stop trying shove something that even scientists don’t agree on down everyones throat. You aren’t the President, you lost, get over it and move on. Mature people cut their losses, the immature continue to whine, complain, carp and mislead. If this is the best the left has to offer we are all doomed. Global warming won’t kill us, arrogance and stupidity will.
ProudMan,
Yes, the Academy Awards provided hybrid vehicles for presenters and staff. That increases the demand for, and use of hybrid vehicles.
seanmahair,
“Stop trying shove something that even scientists don’t agree on down everyones throat.”
You mean the bogus Oregon Petition, and/or the 60 prominent(sic) scientists(sic)?http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine
Art Robinson, and some of the other infamous “60″ people are described here,http://www.desmogblog.com/node/1067Note the really funny part about Fred Sietz re big tobacco.
“heheheeh. But oh yeah, he isnt speaking to me anymore.”
I believe, dear, that should read: “spanking”. It livens up the situation a bit, doesn’t it? I’m there!
cosmos- Are you saying that ALL scientists agree with the bogus global warming theory? I don’t think so. There is legitimate debate here, unless you prefer to shout down the opposition.
BDP fleet,
All credible climate scientists believe that human-added greenhouse gases are causing climate change.Shouting isn’t needed — deniers and skeptics don’t have the necessary facts, observations, etc to support their theories.
“cosmos- Are you saying that ALL scientists agree with the bogus global warming theory? ”
Posted by fleet.
Is this the basis for your argument? That any, all or no scientist believe in a BOGUS theory?
First off, it is impossible to believe in a bogus theory, since the theory, whatever it is, is false. Your words. Careful you don’t fall off the edge of the flat earth your inhabit.
If that is the reality of the manimals non-polution abilities as asserted by the neo-cons, we got problems: Think smog, bozo.
“global warming”…the new religion of the left.
I D : the samo-samo nonsense of the right.
sob,
“”global warming”…the new religion of the left.”
Polar bears are NOT members of the “left” political party.
‘Scientists Sound Warning on Global Warming’http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Science/story?id=1407585“A survey by the U.S. Mineral Management Service has recorded elevated numbers of polar bears drowning. Some have been found swimming far out in the warming Arctic sea as the sea ice pulls back farther from land and the bears try to swim to shore.”
Vote Algore for Pope of the Global Warming Church
Finally! An answer to the global warming problem!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070228/wl_canada_afp/canadaenvironmentkyoto_070228180440
I am amazed at the denial so many Americans share of Global Warming.The planet has only had to endure man’s industrialization for 150 years belching man made hydrocarbons et al and the negative effects are well established by science in that short span. You can say what you want about our ex-Vice-President but on an intelligence comparison with the current Vice-President Dickhead Cheney hasn’t a clue.