Funny how the system seemed fine in 1996

In the unlikely event that Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback wins the presidency or, less unlikely, the vice presidency, his temporary successor would be named by Democratic Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, and well-positioned to win the seat outright at the next election. If she chose a Democrat — herself, say — that would break the GOP’s 69-year hold on the state’s two Senate seats. That sounds to state Sen. Dennis Pyle (in photo), R-Hiawatha, like a scenario to be avoided. Under his proposed legislation, the governor would call a special election to fill a U.S. Senate vacancy, as now happens in the case of House vacancies. Pyle said that the change would bring “uniformity to both situations.” But it no doubt would bring peace of mind to Republicans, too.
Posted by Rhonda Holman

39 Comments

  1. rm6046
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    OSB has a better shot at the presidency than that Brownie. I know the Super Bowl is today, but even speculating on this is about as lame as it gets. Get a grip, Rhonda.

  2. kelly
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    Before we decide whether to run like lemmings and agree with Pyle, let’s see what Speaker Neufeld and the Republican majority do to Gene Rardin, who 2-vote victory was backed by a judge, but now is in the hands of the Kansas House. Let’s see if what is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

  3. JWink
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    Rhonda: I don’t understand why you as a left wing liberal would continuously exhort for Sam Brownback. Brownback has no credentials that would make him a presidential candidate. Think back to the credentials of Lyndon Johnson, General Dwight D. Eisenhower and, in my opinion, our best president ever, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Even Bill Clinton was a former Governor. These people had resumes and experience that offered potential to excel.

    But Sam Brownback, former attorney general Phill Kline and their ilk need to find large right-wing non-denominational church pulpits from which to espouse their religious views. We don’t need their personal opinions muddying up the presidential competition at this critical time in world history.

    So, message to Sam Brownback: get out before you create a horrible mess in the upcoming presidential races.

  4. Worker
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Message to Brownback:Run like your senate seat depended on it!

    After folks get a real good look at you in the national arena you will be easy pickin’s for the Dems.

  5. fleettwood
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    “…his temporary successor would be named by Democratic Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, and well-positioned to win the seat outright at the next election….”This is a Republican state. Wishing it otherwise does not change that fact.

  6. J R
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Sheesh even with a distant hypothetical, the cons can’t wait to scramble to change the rules to cover their asses.

    Brownback has zero chance. But IF he were to vacate his Senate sear for any reason, it is the governor who picks his successor. This legislation should be blocked. It is an intrusion of the legislative on the executive powers.

  7. Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Peckerwood–

    If we’re a “Republican state,” why did we elect a Democratic governor?

    When Senator Johnson from North Dakota suffered a brain embolism, the Freepers lit up the blogosphere like a pinball machine because the governor was a Republican.

    Just another way for the Republicans to game the system. They respect the process only so long as they win.

  8. Worker
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    The proof of Repub’s respect for the system will come when the “disputed” seat in the Ks House comes to the floor for a vote.

    Should the GOP dislodge the elected representive based on the fact that they have the votes to do so will create such a #it$ storm that the Dem’s will win at least 5 more seats in 08 on that issue alone.

    Given the fact that the Repub’s have squandered their right to lead as a result of their greed, lack of eithics, and arrogance I have to wonder just how red this state really is.

  9. KSGolfnut
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    Junior is against letting the will of the people decide any replacement senator.

    Why is this not surprising?

  10. Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    And you Repubs are against letting the will of the people decide the replacement for Johnson in North Dakota.

    For that matter, you were against the will of the people in 2000.

    Al Gore officially got 600,000 more votes than George Worst President Ever Bush.

    But that didn’t stop you from stopping the recount.

  11. Worker
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Nut:

    What is surprising is your inability to respect the law, unless of course it suits your purpose. If it dosen’t then you are all about abusing it.

  12. KSGolfnut
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    How apropos that KomradeKrunch can’t stay on topic.

    We don’t live in SD. Immaterial.

    Gore lost the electoral college. Again (with feeling), he LOST. It’s been more than six years, and you’re STILL whining. Heh. I love watching you crybaby liberals continue to toss that one around like it’s your security blankie.

  13. Worker
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Golfnut logic:”Gore lost the electoral college. Again (with feeling), he LOST.”

    We cheated and Gore lostWe stole democracyTherefore: crybaby liberals should just forget about it

  14. Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Yup, good one, Worker.

    I’m NEVER going to forget about it.

    I wasn’t even politically active until you sumuvabitches stole the national election.

    Now it’s all I do in my spare time . . . work to put in progressives and get the CONs out.

  15. Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    The installation of Worst. President. Ever. awoke the sleeping giant, the grass-roots activists that only represent ONE special interest: the majority.

    You’re like Bonnie Huy. You think it’s still “politics as usual.” You can just coast on traditional loyalties.

    You don’t even see us coming until you’re bagged and tagged.

  16. KSGolfnut
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    “Waaaaaaahhhhhhh”

    “You cheated!”

    [grin]

    Hearing that brightens up even the most gloomy day.

  17. Worker
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Golfnut;

    Arrogance can be cured! In fact keep it up, you only embolden my friends within the moderate (majority) wing of the GOP.

    You remember them, they elected a Dem. for congress, a Dem. for Gov., a Dem. for AG., and kicked out Huey and DeCastro.

    Embolden away Golfnut!

  18. Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Easily amused, aren’t you, GoofNut?

    Here, laugh at this, while you’re at it:

    Bush creates 7 million new jobs in the time that Clinton created 22.5 million.

    The national debt is rising to another new high.

    The Dow is up a ridiculous 8 percent over 7 years.

    Gasoline prices doubled.

    9-11.

    Hurricane Katrina.

    Jack Abramoff.

    Scooter Libby.

    The Democrats retook both houses of Congress.

    Three thousand dead in Iraq.

    *****

    Man, this George W. is one funny guy . . .

  19. Worker
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    CaptA:Carefull, you know how golfntz does not like facts! Next thing you know he is going to resort to his usual rant about libs not having the right to criticize because we hate America, aren’t smart enough to steal elections, like to drink starbucks…

  20. fleettwood
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    capn-Wishing don’t make it so.

    There are 30 Repubs and only 10 Democrats in the Kansas Senate.There are 77 Repubs and only 48 Dems in the Kansas House.The Gov is a Dem, the vice Gov and the Attn Gen are both former Repubs. Both Senators are Repubs.

    If this isn’t a Rebublican state, I don’t know what is.

  21. Worker
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Fleet:Stay tuned, I don’t think that whole momentum thing is working out too well for you.

    Remember: House and Senate up for election in 08, with your posts helping us out we will make gains in both houses.

    Please more of your arrogant tone! It really helps.

  22. Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Republicanism is in it’s “last throes, if you will . . . “

  23. KSGolfnut
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Governor Kathy is a virtual Republican. She’s clearly pro-business. About the only democrat action she’s executed was to veto concealed carry – and she knew it would be overridden.

  24. fleettwood
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Stay tuned is all you got?I win.

  25. fleettwood
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    capn-Won’t you agree that Gore did not win his home state and that might have been kind of important?Libs = still crying after all these years

  26. Worker
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Can’t you just see Fleet dancing around his living room “I win, I win!” Perhaps he has a wife who sits a claps her hands and says to the kids “Look, look daddy won again kids!”

    Fleetwood looks lovingly at his little woods and says “let this be a lesson to you children, never, ever let anyone say your daddy is a loser again.

    They all went to bed that night knowing daddy is the king of the bloggers.

  27. fleettwood
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    That’s funny, worker. Thanks for the laugh.

  28. Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    If by some very distant chance Brownback won the presidency, The Governor will and should pick the replacement to finish his term. However, Brownback is up for re=election for the Senate in 08 and he still has to keep his seat. For those who have met me, you know I am a conservative. That said, I won’t even vote for Brownback for the Senate. His stance on immigration has turned me against him. I betting I’m not the only conservative he has alienated. His seat is going to be very vulnerable during the next election so this may be a moot point.

  29. fleettwood
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Me, too Bob, but the alternative (a democrat) is a non starter. A democrat replacement would be worse in many more ways. And it wouldn’t get us a better person on illegal immigration.

  30. Posted February 4, 2007 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    We need a conservative to rreplace Brownback

  31. Mr Kia
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    He is going to have a very tough time if he sticks in the Presidential and the Senate race as well. Can you vote for him for two different offices?Many Presidential contenders do not step down (Kerry most recent) but I was always under the impression that the Senate seats for these candidates were up at mid term?

  32. Posted February 4, 2007 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    They can be on the ballot for both.

  33. political_mom
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    Well isn’t this a lot like the republican redistricting plan in Texas.

    They keep grabbing for the sand, but it keeps running through their fingers. And they can’t seem to figure it out. The more they grab, the more they lose.

    So here’s a hint….STOP BEING CORRUPT BULLIES.

  34. Jim G.
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Brownback is a nutcase. Period.

  35. WSClark
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Nutcases all over the world resent your Brownback reference, Jim.

  36. elyria
    Posted February 4, 2007 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    brownback is not up for re-election until 2010

  37. Kev
    Posted February 5, 2007 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    If Brownback is elected President God help us all

  38. Dingus
    Posted February 6, 2007 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Its funny but I dont think Bush has ever won his home state either.

  39. Posted February 7, 2007 at 2:04 am | Permalink

    Dingus, Bush won Texas by a large margin in both national elections. Neither Gore nor Kerry came close in Texas. I don’t know what you are looking at, but you need to go back and look at your sources.