In the YouTube era, it probably was inevitable that someone would capture Saddam Hussein’s hanging on video for all the world to download. Now an “official who supervised the execution” has been arrested and is under investigation for recording the execution on a cell phone, according to an adviser to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Others have suggested the offending videographer was a guard, rather than an official.
For a ruthless dictator, Saddam met his end in a fairly dignified way. Think of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini’s bullet-ridden body left hanging upside down in a Milan square and Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu’s two-hour show trial and immediate death by firing squad.
Then again, Saddam’s ultimate punishment had the atmosphere of a sectarian revenge killing, with Shiites shouting the name of cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, “Go to hell!” and other taunts. Not exactly the picture-perfect demonstration of the rule of law that the Bush administration might have liked.
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Oh, I like this. I like this a LOT.
http://www.theunapologeticmexican.org/elgrito/2006/12/please_dont_let_on_that_you_knew_me_when.html
Every picture tells a story, don’t it?
Beautiful CF – too bad they don’t have matching ropes!
Invading Iraq and capturing Saddam:
600,000 Iraqis dead
Occupying the country until Saddam was executed:
3,000 Americans dead
Making sure Saddam never got to testify about who sold him the poison gas:
Priceless.
Another comment by a true America loving lib.
yes – a person who loves America and what it once stood for. Unlike the traitorous BushBots.
Like what? Appeasement of terrorists like Clinton. Those were the days.
Why Rhonda would try to zing Bush at the end of her article is beyond me.Wasn’t Saddam kind of mean to the Shiites? I have heard he was very mean to them. No wonder they shouted at him, as he was bobbing from the rope, pooping his pants.
Capn, I hear ya’.The US was backing and supplying Saddam with WMD’s well past the time of the Kurdish massacre.Gonna’ bring down evil Iran by backing the Butcher of Baghdad.Crap, we were buddies we Saddam all the way up until he got outa’ hand and went to Kuwait.
Don’t worry about woody.History ain’t quite his forte’.
woody’s grasp of history:
BILL CLINTON!BILL CLINTON!MONICA!BARE PENIS IN THE OVAL OFFICE!
Heh, you are correct, my friend.
Hotwood can’t do anything except cheap-shot people who speak the truth.
Sucks to be him . . .
I hate America more than you libs do. I hate America much more than you do and that’s a lot.
It seems that golfnuts also can’t figure out that Saddam’s undignified hanging could worsen the civil war.
Just when you think Fleetwood can’t post anything dumber, he proves your point better than anything you yourself could write.
Thanks, fleetwood.
You’re your own best argument against the CONservative position, such as it is . . .
According to the Iraqi journalist being interviewed in the links below, Saddam was an equal opportunity bad guy.
http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/002910.phphttp://www.indcjournal.com/archives/002912.php
The interview itself spans both links, and is remarkable in what the feelings of the journalist being interviewed are as to a number of topics.
No warranties, express or implied.
Cosmos,A fart in public could worsen the war.
Saddam’s hanging could also emasculate the insurgents and lessen the war.
The goal is this: get the Iraqis in a position where they can govern and defend themselves. Hanging Saddam per Iraqi law is just one more step in the right direction.
. . . and according to Riverbend (yes, she’s just a blogger) there were actually more Shias in Saddam’s government than Sunnis.
I have a feeling “sectarian violence” oversimplifies things considerably. Let’s not forgot our good buddy, Al-Sadr, was invoked at Saddam’s execution. Fallujah, anyone?–or can conservatives remember back that far?
Of course, it’s no secret that being in B’aath was pretty much mandatory, at least if you wanted to get anywhere.
Where do you people find all that blogger crap? Just Goooogle left wing whacko and see what pops?
Why, yes, we use Google, hotwood.
You should try it sometime.
golfnuts,
“Saddam’s hanging could also emasculate the insurgents and lessen the war.”
It looks like picking a side, aka “Shiite Tilt”, to win — I think that was Rhonda’s point.
Will the “tilt” “emasculate” ALL of the Sunni’s in the M-E region, or anger them, and cause escalation?
If you spell wacko correctly, you can even wind up with this…
http://www.therationalradical.com/dsep/0801/tom-tomorrow.htm
It is a litmus test of whether one is a left wing wacko, or not… Truly funny.
No fleetwood, we actually read a variety of things and learn something. Unlike you who gets everything from Rush who gets it from his drug-induced hallucinations.
As usual, in their quest to ever find anything bush did right, we have the bushbots crowing over this badly done execution.
I cannot imagine a worse outcome than this.
Saddam was executed for complicity in the deaths of 148 Shia.
The Kurds will still get their trial. But as Saddam is dead? The world will ignore that.
And we are alledged to be trying to build a democratic nation there?
What did this episode teach our young pupil state?
“Justice is swift and summary and partisan and carried out in the dead of the night by whoever happens to be in power at the moment.”
Yeah real nice. Great place to start a concensus government and justice system.
The simple fact that our people failed to control the hanging is just another failure of the Bush administration. I absolutely was disgusted by the hanging. Had that hanging occured a decade ago it would have seemed like some distant barbaric handling of an evil ruler. But it happened last week in a country being run by the USA. It should have happened in complete privacy with no photography. In fact, it probably should not have happened at all. Hussein knows more than anyone. We should have kept him on trial for a decade.Bush is such a weak weak man. I hate our president. He is so absolutely void of intelligence and leadership skill. He has hurt our country for decades to come. He and Cheney deserve some jail time. Bad, bad, men. Spineless, heartless, evil men.Just look at the death and despair their judgment has brought so many people…600,000 dead Iraqi’s….3,000 US Soldiers…dead for what?
Ya know?
It takes a time or two for it to sink in.
If it hasn’t for you yet? Let me help.
This was a STATE FUNCTION. But look at it! The execution team is in street clothes and SKI MASKS! Ever remember a credible government function looking like that?
Apparently NO security. Now I know the things are small. But just how does one smuggle in AND use a phone camera at this thing?
Or maybe we or someone was SUPPOSED to see that video.
All in all? Little better organized than a gang hit. Which I guess it really was.
Not good. And not playing well in the mideast.
This is what America does to the enemies of the Zionist pigs. It is unfortunate that the very existence of the USA contaminates our pure blooded race by practicing the abomination of myscegeny. The USA is controlled by the Zionist entity and is a threat to the White Race. It must be destroyed for all our sake and the sake of our children.
This is what America does to the enemies of the Zionist pigs. It is unfortunate that the very existence of the USA contaminates our pure blooded race by practicing the abomination of myscegeny. The USA is controlled by the Zionist entity and is a threat to the White Race. It must be destroyed for all our sake and the sake of our children.
Go away, Ian.
God, we can’t even execute a ruthless dictator without screwing it up…talk about a lynch mob. We should have given him a wonderful meal then mercifully “put him to sleep” with a lethal injection. It would have been more civilized and less painful, showing him the mercy he withheld from his thousands of victims.
Once again, Mary, you are correct.
I was considering commenting on the odd Israeli/Iran connection of Iran-Contra, and the odd Israeli support for U.S. policy in Iraq, which indirectly favors Iran. Even cynically considering PNAC goals, I find it bewildering.
Then this Zweiihander idiot shows up.
Never mind. I don’t EVEN want to risk being associated with that crap.
Don’t respond to it.That’s the best policy.It feeds on your anger.
You people are crying more tears for Saddam than you should. Your hate for Bush is leading you that way. Wake up.
fleettwood,
Your slavish Bush worship is leading YOU that way.
Me, being part of a free people and all, I think that suspicion of one’s leaders is a far healthier response than blind faith and obedience.
Bow down to the Liar in Chief if you want to, fleettwood. That’s your choice. But don’t try to vilify the rest of us for refusing to believe the lies you choose to believe.
Soon after Sadam was captured, Bush made sure he was paraded in underwear and checked for lice while being videotaped.
Bush set a bad precedent and encouraged his executioners to heckle the man right before his death.
A true statesman would not comport himself in this manner and instead should have assured a war opponent was treated with American civility and not have been ridiculed.
Bush had the power to prevent the videotaping since Sadam was executed in a U.S. military gallow, but instead allowed the execution to look like a “Texas lynching”. It reminded me of the way the South lynched backs, not long ago.
According to a U.S. Military spokesman, Saddam was dignified and courteous to his American jailers.
He “was courteous, as he always had been, to his U.S. military police guards,” Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell said. “He spoke very well to our military police, as he always had. And when getting off there at the prison site, he said farewell to his interpreter. He thanked the military police squad, the lieutenant, the squad leader, the medical doctor we had present and the colonel that was on site.”
At least Sadam showed education and manners, which is something Bush lacks.
Unfortunately, more and more, Americans (like his leader) are showing how crassy and jaded the’ve become.
Steve Gilliard quite nicely puts together the pieces from the month in Iraq that culminated in Saddam’s ‘execution.’
**********************************www.stevegilliard.blogspot.com
“As they hung Saddam, every man in that room was a Mahdi Army member.
Think about that.
When the state of Iraq decided to execute Saddam, the people who did it was the Mahdi Army.Maliki rushed the execution on the orders of Sadr, and Sadr’s people made sure the job was done.
Now, what exactly are US troops going to do? Secure Iraq from the militias?
Hello, the militias seem to be the state now.
The reason Bush dropped training is simple. We would be training the Mahdi Army.
Let’s go over the last month quickly.
Early in December, Hakim and his Kurd and Sunni counterparts met with George Bush in Washington. There was even a release of Sadr’s version of Arabic ebonics. People were telling reporters that he needed to basically disappear.
The plan was that Hakim and others would force Maliki from office and then seek to eliminate Sadr.
A stupid plan, given the rapid expansion of the Mahdi Army, from 10 to 60K in under a year, and who can tell what the real numbers are, but one which was gaining steam.
Sadr began manuvering, but more importantly, it became clear that the Mahdi Army had won the support of the Iraqi Shias. Even in areas which had supported Sistani and Hakim, it was the Mahdi Army which protected them. Sadr had built loyalty among people who had originally opposed him.
People were astonished that Hakim was going to try and run things after dealing with the Americans. One man said that he would have to seek Sadr’s forgiveness, which was unlikely.
Finally, Sistani said he would not support a deal which did not protect the Shia majority. Which chopped the legs out from Hakim like an axe.
So we get to execution day.
What better way to show your new power than to bum rush the execution and make sure everyone knows you did it.
While the official film was bland, the cellphone video had the sound of the Mahdi Army cursing Saddam. No Kurds, no Sunnis, this was a show by the Mahdi Army, and the Mahdi Army alone.
And the “government” went along because it answers to the Sadrists.
So what are we supposed to do? Send more men to protect the government, which is now run in effect, by the Sadrists? Who we want to attack to eliminiate his power.
The Sadrists are not going away. We cannot attack them and expect to win or even keep the support of the government if we do.
So the point is?”
You people are the same ones who cry when a serial killer is put to death (which is what Saddam was). Your values are all screwed up.
“Bush made sure he was paraded in underwear”
Really, Bush picked up a phone, told the medics to do this and video tape it, then forced the media to air the tape… huh.
“Bush … encouraged his executioners to heckle the man right before his death. “
Really, you have a statement or video of Bush encouraging ANYONE???
“Bush had the power to prevent the videotaping since Sadam was executed in a U.S. military gallow, but instead allowed the execution to look like a “Texas lynching”. It reminded me of the way the South lynched backs, not long ago.”
Huh, didn’t see a single American soldier there. The fact that we built it makes it American soil? Seems to me the Iraqi’s used a building for its designed purpose. But oh yeah, it is Bush’s fault.
fleettwood,
Don’t try to confuse the issue in your typically dishonest way.
Nobody thinks Saddam should have escaped punishment for his crimes against humanity. But every reasonable person SHOULD think that his execution shouldn’t have been carried out by members of the Mahdi Army as a demonstration of Shi’ite power.
Do you think it was good that Saddam was executed in this way, rather than according to a transparent and legitimate process? Are you a fan of mob justice, fleettwood? And of sectarian killing? Because that’s what this was. Do you really think killing Saddam in this way was good for the goal of a ’stable’ and ‘democratic’ Iraq?
So stop with the phony and dishonest comparisons–even if they’re all you’ve got.
If people think that this was just another “slip up” then they are nuts. It would be immpossible for anyone to be as incompetent as we have been in Iraq. I feel that this has been the plan(mossad) from day one to stir up sectarian hatred and get the muslims to wipe each other out!
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
The point isn’t that Saddam’s execution was handled in any sort of professional manner. The point is that the Bush haters are pinning every little detail on Bush.
The Iraqi government is screwed. We did our best to provide them with the framework of democracy. They screwed it up. I don’t think that these folks know how to handle democracy and freedom. I think it scares them.
The power hungry ascend to power thru whatever means available. The next dictator (after the mockery of this government has been dissolved) will rule with an iron religious fist just like every dictator before him.
It was a grand and pious idea to try to give these people a free country and government. Unfortunately, they have no taste for freedom.
SDVB,
Personally, I buy Ian’s scenario over yours. Conquer, divide the country, split the oil. They don’t call the Bushes ‘the Mayberry Machiavellis’ for nothing.
Sadly, partition has the potential to inflame the region in a way that nothing else does. War with Turkey over a greater Kurdistan, anyone?
Look at every place Britain has drawn borders. Violence and unrest. Surely SOMEONE is paying attention. Crap, even Kuwait. It used to belong to Iraq. Someone drew a line and you get the first gulf war.
I used to be a fan of the division of Iraq. The devil is in the details of the common government and splitting the oil revenues, but drawing new borders will only incite more tribal/sectarian unrest.
SDVB,
Indeed. The British were really bastards in the late stages of colonialism. The poison pills left behind in the wake of their various partitions (Iraq, India/Pakistan) go on bearing bitter, violent, intractable fruit.
And as the new, would-be colonial power in these same regions, we keep setting off these landmines. Almost makes you think we ought to give up our neocolonial project of Pax Americana and go back to living within our own borders.
Sol,
This operation in Iraq is right out of Britain’s playbook. The Brits kep Sikh, Muslim and Hindu rivalry at a boiling poit for over 100 years and that’s how they maintained control over the sub-continent.
The execution was handled badly on purpose to keep tensions high. I also feel that the bombing of the Shiite mosque last year was the work of mossaad, possibly in conjunction with the cia/mi-6 to keep the sunni-shia feud alive.
Our government knew that if the suni and shia came together, united as muslims or arabs or Iraqis then it would be game over for the occupation.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
CF,
There’s no point to bringing more troops considering Muqtada’s head has gotten too big for his turban.
Back in 2004, when his followers barely amounted to 2,000, Bremer and the generals let him escape from Najaf. Now he can count on a mob of more than 200,000.
The Al-Sadr family have a clear and distinct lineage that can be traced directly to the Prophet Muhammad. This is why I suspect the Americans don’t want to stir the pot and make him a martyr.
Muqtada’s support is strongest among the urban poor, many of whom see him as their champion. He’s the Don Corleone, if you will, and likes to pretend he’s not behind the death squads who penchant for torturing civilians and then dumping their bodies at dawn.
Incidentally, originally one of the prosecutors who was present pointed the finger at Mowaffak al-Rubaie (head of National security) as being one of the two high officials taping the execution. Now Ribaie is claiming that a ’sunni insurgent’ acidentally sneaked in in the room. Can you believe it? There were only 14 witnesses, and somehow a ’sunni’ poped-up among the Mehdi army brigade.
Bush isn’t the brightest bulb on the strand. If this is his intention, to keep the turmoil stirred up, doesn’t he see that it is killing his presidency and party?
The Dems are going to run in ‘08 on a platform of getting our troops out of there. So where does that leave things? What has been done has been done and will be turned off by the Dems. Was this all for Haliburtan(sp?) gains?
>>Really, Bush picked up a phone, told the medics to do this and video tape it, then forced the media to air the tape… huh.<<
Yes, ‘really’,–where have you been Sol. Don’t you know Bush is the decider and leaker in chief?
Or are you trying to tell us, he goes to sleep by 9:00 o’clock, while Laura reads him shaggy doggy stories with Barney at his bed side, and hasn’t a clue what happens on U.S. military bases and in Iraq?
Please enlighten us on what you think your hero does on a day to day basis, when he’s not riding his mountain bike.
OK Plat, like everyone else likes to say here, back up your claim. You are the one making bogus statements, but you want me to defend calling you out.
The winter isn’t cold enough in Michigan, Bush’s fault. The crops didn’t come in like we wanted them to, Bush’s fault.
Get over it. Bush screws enough stuff up. Can’t you point out what he has done himself with out making more stuff up???
What do you want me to present, reliable hearsay testimony under the Federal rules of evidence?
Let me know how I can present my case under your farmer rules of order, Sol.
So far, All I see from you some blabber about “Britain drawing it’s borders’ as if you’re some Oxford professor in early britanica history training– but I don’t see you presenting any emprirical evidence to support your intelligencia findings. So who the hell annointed you to be the King of the Kansas farmers?
King of Kansas Farmers. It IS good to be the king.
The points I referred to are historical. I hope you don’t need references for those facts. But your statements…
“Bush made sure he was paraded in underwear”“Bush … encouraged his executioners to heckle the man right before his death. ““Bush had the power to prevent the videotaping since Sadam was executed in a U.S. military gallow, but instead allowed the execution to look like a “Texas lynching”. It reminded me of the way the South lynched backs, not long ago.”
Are pure opinion that you state as fact. So I say put up or shut up. Pretty simple, even for a lowly farmer king.
Why don’t you ask your leader Bush and Gates why they didn’t order a metal detector, to make sure the Shi’a mob didn’t bring cell camera phones inside the U.S. military gallow room?
Or is it, too difficult to figure this out? We have them everywhere here in our federal and state buildings. Or do you think Bush see’s into the ‘eyes’ of the Shia leaders and immediately trusts thems just like he did with Putin?
Uhm… it’s their government, their rules maybe? Don’t most of the liberals want us out of Iraq, and now you’re saying we’re not meddling ENOUGH in their due process?
Evidently, you didn’t watch the world videos on CNN when Sadam was paraded in his ‘fruit of the looms’– don’t you get cable in your farm? The evidence was in the video, but I’m not going to ‘authenticate it for you under F.R.E. 403. You see, I expect the average American farmer to be informed and afford cable. I guess you’re the bottom of the barrel.
At the bottom of the barrel I shall remain. At least I speak in truths and do not state opinions as fact. So I guess I am an honest idiot. You present yourself as just an idiot plat.
>>Uhm… it’s their government, their rules maybe?<<
No, dummy. The execution was carried out on AMERICAN soverign territory, or do you not lack knowledge of how ‘lease arrangements are drafted when we build U.S. military bases abroad?
Just one more clue, how rural -provincial your mentality works. Look, I have to go work at my white collar job. Have a nice day at the farm. Adios pendejo (lol)!
Do I have cable at the farm? No, but my ‘Big City’ brother does and he invited me over.
Was Saddam in his skivvies? You betcha. Do I think that Bush set that up? Not at all. Do I think Bush had him video taped and forced the media to air that particular piece? Nope. Don’t believe it for a second. Draw all the conclusions you like Plat, but they are just that, your conclusions and not fact.
Platypus,
It seems as if you believe I support throwing gasoline on the fire–er, I mean, adding more U.S. troops to those already delployed in Iraq.
Just for the record, I support an immediate withdrawal of all U.S. forces from Iraq. Always have.
Maybe my views got tangled up in some ironic self-distancing. Who knows.
But I regard the invasion and occupation as the biggest foreign policy debacle in all of American history. And, to be frank, I believe that it heralds the trend that will be the end of America as we’ve known it: namely, the slow, Roman sacrifice of our democracy to a would-be empire.
Britain chose democracy over empire. Rome chose empire over democracy. And we (both Republicans and Democrats through their mutual decision to feed the permanent war economy) seem hell-bent on doing the latter.
I’d have to quibble with your statement on Britain, CF, that they chose democracy over empire.
Queen Victoria ruled from 1837 to 1901, the time of Britian’s “sun never sets” empire. Their former colonies did eventually achieve a kind of democracy–Singapore, M’sia being two good examples.
De jure, they’re democracies but de facto, they’re “strong-man” semi-dictatorships–Lee Kwan Yu and Mohammed Mahatir.
As for the English homeland itself, it was a hybrid of monarchary and republicanism. Not much direct democracy.
So, you’re right. England did eventually choose democracy over imperialism, but it took them two hundred years.
Not only that, but the Irish, Indian, Kenyan, Egyptian, Afghanistan, American etc. rebellions made holding on to empire harder and harder.
Especially after the Japanese kicked their collective ass in the Pacific and proved decisively that the non-whites could win wars, the facade of the “superior” European and his civilization was forever torn asunder.
Sol,
Well, I’m glad you finaly admitted you watched the videotape with Sadam in his underwear and that, my previous statement on the undies, is a ‘fact’ and not my unsupported ‘opinion.
Now, can you put your little brains together and figure out what was the purpose behind the Bush Administration videotaping Sadam in underwear instead of trousers? Here. Let me help you: TO HUMILIATE HIM!
And, If you don’t believe the Bush administration authorized the release of the tape of Sadam in underwear, back in 2004 let me provide you with a video link from CNN, now that I’ve made it to my office.
If you don’t own DSL (and I doubt you do, since you have to travel and bother your brother in the city to watch cable news) read for yourself how the Bush administration allowed CENTCOM to release it.
(quote) “Later, when Sanchez showed video of the bearded, bewildered-looking fugitive undergoing a medical exam after his capture, the Iraqi journalists again leapt from their seats shouting “Death to Saddam.”http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/
Furthermore, had you purchased a copy of Woodward’s State of Denial, book, which most of us did, back in Sept., 2006, when it was released, you would have found, early on in the book, how the chain of command at the Pentagon worked whil Rumsfeld was in office. Woodward explains Rumsfeld picked Sanchez and Bremer to run the dog and pony show during the capture of Sadam.
And just in case you don’t understand the chain of command in our federal govt., let me break it down for you in layman terms: General Sanchez who worked for the Pentagon and appointed by Rumsfeld, took ORDERS from Bremer who in turn answered to Rumsfeld.
Rumsfeld served at the request of BUSH. Do you now get it ‘fekwit’?
Bush had to know when they captured Sadam and that CENTCOM was going to release the tape to CNN.
Now, If you still believe the video was released for the mere showing that Sadam might have cavities on his teeth, instead of humiliating him, then I can’t help you–you lack deductive rational skills.
Evidently, you can’t put two and two together that the reason why the military doctor checked Sadam’s mouth and hair for lice, while being videotaped by our govt., and then shown on CNN and the world was for U.S. counter-propaganda. The aim was to persuaded the masses to conclude that Sadam might have cuddies like some wild rabid animal, and you, SOL are one of these ignorant fools, who I’m sure fell for it.
Now, don’t you have some snow to plow? I heard your state got snow. Your barn animals might be stranded. Go rescue them– scuddle along and don’t bother me again–I have other important posters to answer, than continue arguing with you ad-infinitium whether my statements are mere ‘lay opinions’ or ‘expert conclusions from a ‘declassified’ snow-flake memo from Rumsfeld’s desk.
>>It seems as if you believe I support throwing gasoline on the fire–er, I mean, adding more U.S. troops to those already delployed in Iraq.<<
CF,
It may seem that way to you, but I don’t believe you support an escalation. I’ve read enough of your posts here, to conclude you’re not in the 30 percent who continues to throw more gasoline on the fire. I apologize if I didn’t add “I agree with your previous conclusion” prior to my diatribe on Al-Sadr.
Well, well well, it appears George’s infamous videotape made it to his one of his youngest Texas constituency.
Unfortunately a child has now mimicked the hanging.
“HOUSTON – A 10-year-old U.S. boy who hanged himself may have been inspired to do it by television coverage of Saddam Hussein’s execution, police said Thursday.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16472727/
Way to go America. Keep showing your children how’s its done.
Platypus,
No biggie. And it would behoove me to stay on your good side, since male platypuses apparently pack a venomous spur that causes excruciating pain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platypus_venom
Morphine apparently has no effect on it. So, WeBloggers be warned.
ok this really makes me mad. i remember watching saddam kill people on t.v as a little girl but yet we can’t watch him die thats crazy. what about all those kids and parents who didn’t have a choice to watch there mom or dad or son or daughter die.the person who filmed this video in my books should be proud that he captured killing of saddam. i am thankful that we got to watch him die just like we had to watch everyone he killed die.
any person who takes pleasure in watching another person’s death is sick in the head. period. check yourself.