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Open thread on Bush’s Iraq address
- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted Jan. 10, 2007 at 8:00 p.m.
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The winner of the office pool: Bush mentioned 9/11 FIVE minutes into his speech…..
Dylan Decker nailed it!
Hmmmmm had six minutes and several others, including me, had four minutes.
Sorry folks, Dylan won!
In the name of fair disclosure – Dylan is also my son.
The pool winner gets to change the kitty litter box.
That is a symbolic gesture – the next President will have to clean up Bush’ “kitty litter box.”
This is getting really, really bad.
More of the same nonsense, more unsupported conclusions, more blah, blah, blah.
Does this man really believe that shit thathe is trying to pass off on the rest of us?
BTW – If this is such a GREAT plan, why wasn’t it proposed three years and ten months ago?
same old same old …
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. It’s a wonder Dubya doesn’t bit his tongue off.
Is his nose getting longer, or is that my imagination?
Never fear, Halliburton and major oil companies! GW Bush to the rescue!
He made a great case. Let’s move forward with his new plan and approach. I believe it will work.
I believe him, when he says that we need to achieve success in Iraq, if we cut and run like whimpy Democrats, it will come back on us 100 fold. We wil be dealing with terrorist on American streets.
Durbin’s response was far better than Bush’ lame speech. It was also far more accurate.
Bush looked like he was afraid that his Momma was going to catch him playing “prez-dent” and give him a good spanking.
Hey, Joe, if he increases troops by 22K that will move us up to 150,000.
Will that work?
God damn it, Joe! We were at 155,000 last year! Did it work then?
Hell no!
I don’t understand something. The people that absolutely hate GW watch a speech and then can hardly wait to villify it here.
Why? I mean…we all know that he could have announced a cure for cancer, and certain people would be negative, no matter what. Was the intent in watching it just to bash?
I guess I don’t understand the “attack at all times” mentality.
November 2007. He finally gave a timeline of sorts. Of course, it was supposed to be only months from the invasion – that was obviously FALSE.
Hey, Raptor, why are the REPUBLICANS running like Hell from Bush?
Even your boy Brownback has PUBLICALLY stated that he doesn’t believe that the Bush Surge and Puke will work.
Answer that or shut the F*** Up!
raptor – I watched it hoping he would say something new; something believable. Hell, at least I gave him the chance to convince me!
Joe Williams,Nothing is ‘whimpier’ than backing the asshole who’s “informed decision-making” skills have derailed the train at each curve.You sir, are the epitome of whimpy.
Raptor Boy,The parents of dead soldiers need all of us to “attack at all times.” The history of US relations requires our domestic history to speak load and clear so no future Repukelicans who become president don’t lull themselves into to believing that God sent him to spread the word of Frat Boy Drunkisms.
Here is the short version:
“I made a booboo. I now need to place another 20,000+ US troops in harms way so I can stay the course. Pretty pleassssse????”
Man, Barack Obama is really nailing Bush and addressing the issue right now on MSNBC. He is not talking in terms of blah, blah, blah, it won’t work, but he is addressing the issue of what the Congress (as a whole R & D included) can do to keep Bush from going off the rails with America in tow.
Obama rocks!
Riddle me this shrub-lovers; how are we supposed to take the war on “terror” seriously when our freaking borders are wide open!
Lord help me, but I despise that traitor so!
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
20,000 more troops will not work.
But did you notice he’s laying the plans here to say “we’re giving more, but if this doesn’t work, we’re leaving”.
This sounds like the Presidential ultimatum, but an effort to start removing our troops without looking like we made a mistake- by putting it back on the Iraqis to clean up the mess we made.
Bush knows it will not work too, he just did this to try to save face.
P Mom, I think he is trying to save something a little lower than his face.
I think George is trying to save his ass.
Sorry Ian, Barack Obama has always been anti-war. He has never supported the Bush position.
Nice try….
Ian,DA is ALREADY hitting the bong. Can’tcha tell?
Oh, did Bush give a speech tonight?
I’m sucking on a beer watching the original Blues Bros.
Let me guess, he said, “we need to do the same thing, except we need to do more of it.”
Kinda like if you’re lost in the woods, you should just keep running . . . faster.
Just like Ray Charles sings it–”Ahhhh . . . TWISTING! Shake it shake it shake it shake it BABY!
Here we go loop de loop, here we go loop de lie.”
GWB – Great White Bunghole
raptor at least they watched! Even with some much that could damage this country. There are those that never watch, never listen, never think about it.*********
Yes the speech was like someone saying “I guess I should have turned the stove off. Maybe the house would not have burnt down!”. For years is has been said that there have not been enough forces to take and hold land. Once the enemy is driven out, the troops are moved to the next operation. Without any real force to keep the enemy from just walking back in once the forces leave. G.W finally admitted it and just now facing what has been going on for years.
Though he touched on it, he still blames most of the trouble on Al-Qaeda and the Sunni when a good deal of the trouble is controlled by Shiites, inspired by Iran and Syria and has been almost from the beginning.Now we must successes, but it will be a uphill battle, considering that most every country in the region does not want us to. They see it as a threat to their own authority, either by embolden their own Islamic extremists or a popular upraising.
This should have been realized and acted on three years ago, but that was a mistake that is equal to the mistake of invading Iraq in the first place. He said that we could not allow the terrorists to have a safe place in Iraq. While Al-Qaeda and the talban have made inroads into taking back Afghanistan.
sounds like golfer has been hitting the bottle hard tonight …
“But did you notice he’s laying the plans here to say “we’re giving more, but if this doesn’t work, we’re leaving”.”
Good point p-mom. His November date gives him the rest of the cover he will need.
Imagine if GWB was your investment advisor – “i need 20,000…and I know I can you a lot of money…but I also need you to come up with a savings plan of your own in case my plan sinks again…and you are left with nothing.”
Conider … a patient has died because the DR refused to give him enough anti-biotics. Now, at the autopsy, the DR suggests that we inject him with the anti-biotics. Does that make sense? Or is it perhaps just a bit too late?
Unfortunately, I gotta side with Ian on this one, Wes.
Obama was one of the war enablers like Kerry and Hillary.
It was an opportunity for the Dems to stand up and say, “no effing way, President Liar,” but instead they’re all gutlessly covering their asses.
The Dems acted like a battered wife who is sure if she acts nice enough, her drunken SOB of a husband will stop breaking her nose.
Pathetic. Only a handful of Dems had the cajones to stand up for what was right.
On the other hand, none of the Republicans did, except Ron Paul.
Jim – and imagine that advisor has a real bad losing track record.
As usual, Santiago (or whom ever you are)you can post all the links that you want. The facts remain that Obama has always been anti-war.
Always.
He has never wavered, he has never tried to hedge his bet.
Unlike a bunch of right-wing apologists, he has always “stayed the course of an anti-war position.”
But nice try, anyway…..
For the last time, the Dems only authorized Bush to restrain Saddam, they did not DECLARE war.
Christ!
Furthermore, the authorization was based on the cherry-picked CIA intelligence.
We all know that this is true – to try to blame the Dems is total Bullshit.
CapnAmerica,There is one coward who needs to stand up and resign and that’s GWB. He would not answer the cocaine question..and that won him the presidency. There is no way the coward is going to STAND UP. You have no clue, no clue whatsoever how damaging Bush-Cheney-Rice-Rumsfeld were to our America. These 4 need to be caned. Colin Powell had it right from the start. Capn – you have no room to talk bad about democrats. You and your GOP couldn’t save Terri Schiavo and you won’t save iraq!!!
All the attempts to call Dems cowards is just red herring evasiveness from the GOP.Authorizing the president to use force is not the same as having a president who proves to be incompetent and a reason for our soldiers deaths. Our soldiers died while this asshole was listening to Rummy and Cheney blow smoke up his ass. Condi went along with everything they said so they wouldn’t ‘out’ her as a lesbian. It’s tough at the time.
Ian, or who ever you are, the Dems nor the Repubs had a chance to read the Pat Act before it was passed.
To try to pass off this fucking Iraq War on the Democrats is patently ridiculous.
This war was a Bush idea!
Argue that point, Ian, don’t try to blame the Dems.
Bush was planning this war when he was a governor. He just thought that becoming head coach would mean he would win the championship. Little did he know that he needed to competent and capable.He is dumb. It’s weird to watch him…because I can see how dumb he is. I wouldn’t let that motherfucker run a hamburger stand.
As I said to raptor, Santiago, answer to question or shut the fuck up!
Missed Bush’s speech. Saw _Children of Men_ instead. I thought it was very good near future fiction. Better fiction than Bush’s speech, I am sure.
A review at Salon:http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2006/12/25/children/?source=rss
The movie convinced me that I have to read the book:http://www.amazon.com/Children-Men-P-D-James/dp/0307275434/sr=1-1/qid=1168485811/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-3807206-4450223?ie=UTF8&s=books
The author is PD James. Surely not the same Penelope D. James who did all the classic English mysteries.
Is the story an accurate portrayal of how things will look in the year 2027 if the eternal war continues? Could be…
This Bush guy should finally prove that the religious has a lot of power and lacks the judgment it takes to select leaders who can lead verses leaders who make hollow promises to exterminate gay people. Isn’t it amazing what brings people to the polls. Hate a Gay!! Sure, I’ll vote for hate.Fucking religious right. God doesn’t vote. God doesn’t support politicians. God loves everyone, especially the victims of the GOP.
Ian, lock the door, swallow the key.
Interesting….. Ian since when have you started to refer to yourself in the third person?
And when are you going to start answering some reasonable questions?
Once again, your posts seem a little different from the normal Santiago posts – why the difference?
Really?
Wow, on one hand, Ian makes a point about the american mein komph, the so-called patriot act, and the fact no one read it before signing, then we get a double dose of tin-hatitus from the two links provided. Now if that ain’t a perfect example of paranoia strikes deep. I don’t know what is. Brilliant.
As for Bush: did he say anything? Anything at all? Come on, folks, surly he said something! Maybe, ” My cat is a good cat.”, or “Come here, honey, it’s that, ‘one in the bush’ time again. Wear the red dress . . . hehehehe.”
Wow, on one hand, Ian makes a point about the american mein komph, the so-called patriot act, and the fact no one read it before signing, then we get a double dose of tin-hatitus from the two links provided. Now if that ain’t a perfect example of paranoia strikes deep. I don’t know what is. Brilliant.
As for Bush: did he say anything? Anything at all? Come on, folks, surly he said something! Maybe, ” My cat is a good cat.”, or “Come here, honey, it’s that, ‘one in the bush’ time again. Wear the red dress . . . hehehehe.”
Major Combat Operations are Over!!!
Mission Accomplished!!!!!
We Fucking Won!!!!!
I am the Warrior King!!!!!
George W Bush, May 1, 2003.
Would someone please take DA’s pipe away?
Would somone please take golfer’s booze away?
Oh knock it off with the pot shots. (I MADE A PUNNY).
I sent you an email testicles.
So, Santiago, are you going to answer any questions? I would really like to see your responses.
Bush noted that if the Iraqi regime fails in meeting its ‘benchmarks’ it will lose the support of the American people. It already has; maybe that will, however, give Bush cover to withdraw.
Pee,I responded at 7:16.
No need to take any booze away. I’m not drinking.
Repost………. if Santiago is really out there…..
So, Santiago, are you going to answer any questions? I would really like to see your responses.
DA,Dude, you’re redundant. Sit back, chill, enjoy your buzz.
testicles, i didn’t get itplease resend.
Repost………. if Santiago is really out there…..
So, Santiago, are you going to answer any questions? I would really like to see your responses.
done.
My guess is Malaki will play Bush/U.S, and purge the Sunni areas of Baghdad first, door to door, then when Bush wants to go after the Shiites, the U.S. will be asked/told to leave; Malaki will look like a decisive leader not afraid to tell the infidels to go.Their democracy will not look like ours, because the freedom of religion will be the freedom to be a Shiite. Bush, the useful idiot!
Guess I missed the Bush speech was at Wednesday nite church.
I’m guessing by the comments not many people like it. heh
Shut up JM.
I listened to the speech hoping I would hear something new but it is the same crap! I am so angry that my sons are there fighting for nothing! GW has repeatedly lied to us to the point that this fine “Christian” man makes my butt feel warm everytime he opens his mouth from all the smoke he blows up it. I would just once like to hear someone tell how any of this is going to make me safer. Hell, the terrorists don’t need to come to the US to kill Americans. They can stay close to home and accomplish the same. He just reinforced my feelings of comtempt for him.
Made a point to see it – I don’t want to rely on someone else telling me what he said.
People go to church on Wednesday night?
Just us religious kooks Jim G. You know the wackos.
JMWow, one that admits it. Good for you. Please inform the state to revoke your voting rights and all will be okay.
I think a number of Catholic and some protestants do Wednesday
We do Wednesday (Protestant – Methodist)
Aside from GWB.Did anyone read the piece about Gerald Ford’s private christianity in the recent Time magazine. Ford would not allow his campaign to use his born-again Christian beliefs as a campaign tool.Ford was the first president I remember as a kid. I wish we had more like him. I often believe that the average Christian was manipulated by their own leaders into believing that they are being attacked and overrun so therefore they had to stand up and scream and yell about their Christian beliefs….which makes them just as ugly as anyone else.If I could become a Christian…not sure how, I would want to be like Gerald Ford…..and nothing like a modern Christian of today.
Where are you Santiago?
Repost………. if Santiago is really out there…..
So, Santiago, are you going to answer any questions? I would really like to see your responses.
Santiago has been deported.
pupup,we have a child together
“we have a child together”
Any bets on who the child is?
1) Dameon2) George W. Bush3) the Antichrist4) George Tiller
Whomever, I am thinking that P_Mom contributed very little genetic material…
HEY! I’m in no way connected to testicles.
And there is no, and will be no ‘love children’ from this.
I’m on you guy’s side, don’t forget that.
Sorry, PMom, just a joke; at the testicle’s expense.
Here goes:
Popup, would your first name be, John?
I know Steven, just clarifying I’m not a traitor…no Benedict Arnold here!
By the way, I think we should call the blogger meetup the _ Annual Blogger’s Summit.
Popup!,Walker was my guess… Back to the drawing board.
While I can believe that PMom is a real person, I am not so sure about Nutz.
Popup!,
Wait a minute the fact that you knew that Walker was my guess, should inform me, right?
Will ponder that, tomorrow.
Steven,Nothing you can say is at my expense.
“Steven,”Nothing you can say is at my expense.”
Okay, and your dull point is what?
Oh, I forgot, you are the prototype of a dull tool.
dull tool<— in dictionary has Nutz’s photo..
thanks for proving my point.
[wink]
“thanks for proving my point.
“[wink]”
Pretty pathetic. But thanks for trying. You are the puppet of those who are thinking… See you tomorrow.
if THIS is your thinking…
Cute, nutz. You’re staying up pretty late if you are going to make your millions tomorrow, aren’t you?
Since you apparently can’t do any better than your usual crap. I am going to bed.
Good night, popup! – I know I know ye…
I DID see the speech. I think Bush’s non-plan sucks, but I’m still mulling over what we SHOULD do (other than get our troops the hell out of there). I’m very concerned about the relationship between the Al-Maliki government and Iran–and only an halluncinatory idiot could believe threatening Iran will somehow make that go away.
P.S. Popup!–you’re quite amusing. A wild guess, but they ain’t gonna catch you!
Who’s the moron comparing me to popup?
Clarkie,
Ian is willing to answer any of your questions, so please, pose them.
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
WSClark,Ian signed of a long time ago. Don’t you read the posts. Post your question. I won’t speak for Ian, but whith what you’ve posted so far, it shouldn’t be too hard to answer.
Never mind….
Hey So, you mayhave noticed that my last post was about 11:00 last night….
But this was what I posted for Santiago:
“Ian, or who ever you are, the Dems nor the Repubs had a chance to read the Pat Act before it was passed.
To try to pass off this fucking Iraq War on the Democrats is patently ridiculous.
This war was a Bush idea!
Argue that point, Ian, don’t try to blame the Dems”
The post was very simple for the Buchanan types, including Santiago.
Why are you trying to blame the war on the Democrats when it was clearly a Bush/Cheney/Neocon initiative based on cherry-picked intelligence?
Easy question right?
You go Keith Olbermann!
Clarkie,
I am not singling out the dems but most of them DO have an ownership stake in this war. You KNOW that clinton and kerry would have been trumpeting their por war stance had things gone well in Iraq, just be honest!
As for me personally, I was against this thing from the start and the ideal troop level as far as I am concerned is ZERO. You are a relative newcomer but Ed and I called this a proxy war for the zionists and predicted a very bad outcome, we were both ridiculed but WE were and are right.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!