Registered?
Commenting on WE Blog now requires you to be a Kansas.com member. Use the links above to register, if you haven't already, or to log in.Contact us
Follow us
Daily Archives
-
Recent Comments
- outlander on Open thread 11/24
- SolDevVB on Open thread 11/24
- okobserver on Open thread 11/24
- outlander on Open thread 11/24
- BlueJay on Open thread 11/24
- okobserver on Open thread 11/24
- Regular on Huckabee felt costs of campaign
- BlueJay on Open thread 11/24
- donndublin on Open thread 11/24
- okobserver on Open thread 11/24
Open thread
- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted Jan. 9, 2007 at 1:04 a.m.
- Filed under Open thread
- Permalink
- Comments RSS
- Both comments and trackbacks are closed
104 Comments
New thread – no trolls, stalkers, lurkers, morons, racists, idiots, anti-semitics and general foul anti-social behavior.
Thanks you,
And no drug addicts.
WSC should be out moron!
Balls….CLUE…..Pot smokers aren’t nearly addicted as drunks and tobacco users.I know, you just like to taunt WSC.
It’s nice that meadowpoop hasn’t bombed us with more GOP talking points.
jill, is that you?Did you get the weed?It ain’t all seedy like the last crap is it?
Interestingly, the Bush administration is replacing Miers with a battle hardened veteran from the Nixon (watergate)/Reagan (Iran/Contra) era. They would be very afraid, would they?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/08/AR2007010801003.html
Today is the birthday of Richard M. Nixon (1913 to 1994).
golfer, jill – I have seen no evidence that WSC is an addict any more than that golfer is an alcoholic. They both use mind-altering drugs; however I have seen evidence that that use crosses the line to addiction.
Well that went downhill fast.
I wish fleetwood would develop an extremely painful and utimately fatal anal tumor.
“Of course, nobody is obligated to pay more than what the letter of the law requires. But the complex tax code benefits the wealthy, who can afford tax attorneys and complicated schemes to skirt the law. And high marginal rates give them plenty of incentive to do so.
Senator Edwards talks about the need to provide health care for all, but that didn’t stop him from using a clever tax dodge to avoid paying $591,000 into the Medicare system. While making his fortune as a trial lawyer in 1995, he formed what is known as a “subchapter S” corporation, with himself as the sole shareholder.
Instead of taking his $26.9 million in earnings directly in the following four years, he paid himself a salary of $360,000 a year and took the rest as corporate dividends. Since salary is subject to 2.9% Medicare tax but dividends aren’t, that meant he shielded more than 90% of his income. That’s not necessarily illegal, but dodging such a large chunk of employment tax skates perilously close to the line…As a political matter, the dodge is especially hypocritical because the income limits on which Medicare taxes are paid were lifted by Democrats in 1993 specifically to hit “the rich,” as Mr. Edwards likes to call people in his tax bracket.”
Are we rollin’ down hilllike a snowballheaded for hell?
Tracy- Doncha just love the smell of Blog in the morning?
Eau du funky socks with a touch of Pepe le Phew, perhaps?
anonymous,Anyone would be crazy not to take advantage of the tax code to pay the least amount in taxes, even Edwards.This really is a non-issue for me concerning a Presidential candidate.
So why no article on Israel practicing 2,000 mile sorties? The story broke with their tactical nuke plan, but that was just hype. Hell we have a tactical nuke plan to invade England, doesn’t mean we’ll use it.
The bigger story is the sortie training. Only one target 2,000 miles away. Even a conventional strike would wreak havoc on the area. We would be dragged in by some mechanism to support the Israelis.
Do y’all think the training is just a show of force to get the world to pay more attention to the Iran nuke escalation?
In keeping with the energy issues, I would highly recommend the article in this momths Scientific American about the problems associated with corn conversion to ethonol.
Part of it states it would require the entire crop of corn to obtain the quantity of ethonal the government wants to produce . . . dumb. It also states the energy used to produce ethonal is slightly less than that produced by one gallon of the same. No savings there.
In fact, we are importing natural gas from canada to produce the ethonal. Woohoo!!!.
While it’s true that Big Oil is against any form of alternate energy plans, watch for them to start buying into them, absorbing any small company that looks like it might be gaining ground.
I find it highly ironic that a person who can’t punctuate well enough to make a sentence reasonably easy to understand is calling someone else a moron.
Gee-my blog smells like coffee and #2 fuel oil, mixed.Yuck.And good morning!
RD, who’s a mooran?
Dusty, maybe it’s time to quit paying farmers to NOT plant and harvest?
Sawgrass works better than corn =)
mooran??
Is that a hit and run cow?I’m confused!
Oh, goodie, another cheap shot at a so-called leftist.
First, it’s Ralph Nader–the man that every leftist HATES for sucking just enough votes from Gore in Florida to make him lose the electoral college.
Now we get this cheap shot against Edwards, the guy who runs for president more often than he served in Congress.
And get a load of this sentence: “salary is subject to 2.9% Medicare tax but dividends aren’t”
Yeah, why is that, anon, you dumbass?
It couldn’t be because the Republicans value wealth over work, that they re-wrote the tax code so that rich investors get tax breaks that the working class and the middle class don’t get, could it?
HELL YES.
You’re own evidence condemns you position.
What a maroon . . .
No takers on Israel? That’s odd. This is going to make Iraq look like Grenada. Huh…
hee hee hee hee
I see I am late to the party here.
Smells like stale beer and old roaches in here.
Not to mention that the smokers left their butts all over the front steps.
I also see a few empties out on the lawn.
hee hee hee hee hee hee
Smells like coffee, bacon and eggs at my house.
And cleaning products and printer ink while I have a little time off.
hee hee hee hee hee hee hee
Getting out the green visor to work on taxes right now!
Hey Tracy, sorry to gently disagree brother, but we dont get paid anymore to NOT grow crops.
That kinds went out with Nixon.
Now we get subsidized for the crops we DO grow.
Like corn. Go figger.
Kool!Good thing I don’t farm.
…and did I mention the unmistakable odor of old bong water?
hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee
The sure sign aging hippies were partying.
There must have been a few CONservatives at the party too.
I also detect the odor of flop sweat…
Sol you needa talk with ED.
Remember when Bush said he was gonna make ethanol out of switchgrass in the last State of the Union . . . how’s that coming along, George?
I got the feeling that George couldn’t pick switchgrass out of a line up of bluegrass and bermuda.
But it’s gotten to the point that no one can take the man seriously anymore. He obviously hasn’t known what he’s talking about for several years now.
KFG, I believe that’s some flat pepsi someone poured in the bong.
And DAMNIT,somebody peed in the floor furnace,AGAIN.
That’s it, everybody out!
Is that Lava light moving, or is it me?
Holy window pane!
ROFLMQAO Tracy!!!!
I’m so glad I never had a floor furnace.
And for the record, long ago in a land far away, we used to pour TJ Swan in the bong.
It was damn near cheaper than water. heheheheheheheheheh
Tracy,ED? Erectile Dysfunction? Damn it, who talked? Who spilled the beans?
Just kidding. Who is ED?
Gster, I think that is orange sunshine coming in through the window pane….
You guys are BAD.Bad-bad!
Sol, Ed is our resident zionist expert, when he comes around.He used to harp on the evil relationship with Israel, and nobody believed him. We all taunted him, until….WE FIGURED OUT HE WAS RIGHT!
NOT ABOUT OIL?
Future of Iraq: The spoils of warHow the West will make a killing on Iraqi oil riches
By Danny Fortson, Andrew Murray-Watson and Tim WebbPublished: 07 January 2007
Iraq’s massive oil reserves, the third-largest in the world, are about to be thrown open for large-scale exploitation by Western oil companies under a controversial law which is expected to come before the Iraqi parliament within days.
The US government has been involved in drawing up the law, a draft of which has been seen by The Independent on Sunday. It would give big oil companies such as BP, Shell and Exxon 30-year contracts to extract Iraqi crude and allow the first large-scale operation of foreign oil interests in the country since the industry was nationalised in 1972.
The huge potential prizes for Western firms will give ammunition to critics who say the Iraq war was fought for oil. They point to statements such as one from Vice-President Dick Cheney, who said in 1999, while he was still chief executive of the oil services company Halliburton, that the world would need an additional 50 million barrels of oil a day by 2010. “So where is the oil going to come from?… The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world’s oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies,” he said.
Oil industry executives and analysts say the law, which would permit Western companies to pocket up to three-quarters of profits in the early years, is the only way to get Iraq’s oil industry back on its feet after years of sanctions, war and loss of expertise. But it will operate through “production-sharing agreements” (or PSAs) which are highly unusual in the Middle East, where the oil industry in Saudi Arabia and Iran, the world’s two largest producers, is state controlled.
Opponents say Iraq, where oil accounts for 95 per cent of the economy, is being forced to surrender an unacceptable degree of sovereignty.CONTINUED….http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2132569.ece
KFG- Maybe your’re right…. makes for a beautiful sunrise, huh?
“KFG”
Makes me think I need to visit the Colonel for lunch for some extra crispy.
Quote of the Day:
“When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by the sign, that the dunces are all in conspiracy against him.” Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
The bong was the only real way to smoke a bowl. These kids just don’t know what they’re missing nowadays with their blunts.
kstesticles, why do you want to have lunch with me anyway.
PMOM,
Please, stop talking about your Connie Morris-like past, lest you get the Golfnut all hot and bothered, again!
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
Pee – in the interest of civility
P-Mom and GolfNutsSitting in a treeK-I-S-S-I-N-G…….
Invite others, too. Seems like a good idea to me. My kid swims 8:30 am – about noon, and then again Sunday. So we’ll have all Saturday afternoon free in [gasp] Salina.
The clock is ticking, folks, and alot of you have blood on your hands!
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CRIMINAL_IMMIGRANTS?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-01-08-08-55-21
By LARA JAKES JORDANAssociated Press WriterU.S. VideoAdvertisementMultimediaShelters Provide Stability for Young ImmigrantsRecent StoriesTexas Town to Vote on Landlord IssueMore Criminal Charges in Meatpacker Raid
How EU Labor Market Barriers Vary
Britain Debates Key Globalization Puzzle
Immigration to Israel Falls in 2006
Buy AP Photo Reprints
WASHINGTON (AP) — Immigrants arrested for being in the United States illegally may have been charged up to six more times, for more serious crimes, after they were released by local authorities, new Justice Department data indicate.
Additionally, a separate report also issued Monday concludes that the number of illegal immigrants deported after being declared a felon is on the rise.
The Justice findings by department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine examined the criminal histories of 100 illegal immigrants arrested and then released by local and state authorities in 2004, the latest complete data available. Of the sample group of 100, according to the audit, 73 immigrants were later arrested a collective 429 times – on charges ranging from traffic tickets to weapons and drug charges….
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
http://blog.citizensforethics.org/node/478
Here’s one of the pictures that Bush managed to keep under wraps until after the mid-term elections.
“Jack Abramoff . . . the biggest money raiser after Kenny Boy Lay . . . nope, don’t ever remember meeting him.”
Who are you going to believe? Bush or photographic proof?
I saw that capn.Worth a thousand op-eds,ain’t it?
Balls, I wish I could be there to get you guys lined out on the speaking tour.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/16419184.htm
Glad Chester Lewis is getting the park named after him. He deserves the name recognition for being brave when the times called for bravery.
PMOM, BALLS.I think when ya’ll meet you should both have one of those airport chauffer signs.One saying BALLS, another PeeMom.
Just an idea.
Looks like Raj Goyle is taking it to Phelps big time.From Today’s Eagle:”Rep. Raj Goyle, D-Wichita, wasted no time introducing his first bill, a measure to crack down on the one Kansan whom politicians on both sides of the aisle love to hate, the Rev. Fred Phelps.
The stridently anti-gay pastor of a small Topeka congregation has drawn national attention to himself and Kansas by taking his protests to military funerals across the country.
Goyle’s bill is designed to “put their protests at a distance where the decorum of a funeral would be respected.”
Good for Raj.The whole world supports this.
HEY SolDevVB and golfnuts,
Ranchers in Colorado are STILL whining for FEMA’s help.
‘More in line for blizzard help’http://test.denverpost.com/news/ci_4975092The Colorado National Guard, which spent last week providing hay to animals by air and over land, was winding down its operation Sunday.
A preliminary estimate pegs the cost of storm cleanup and rescue efforts in Prowers County alone at nearly $1 million – money the county doesn’t have.
“Our resources from the county, they were more than expended in the first couple days,” said County Commissioner Gene Millbrand.
He said ranchers are still calling and asking: “Where’s the help? Where’s the helicopters? Why were they pulled out?”
It looks like currymuncher come lately, goyle, is trying to ingratiate himself with east/west coast leftist hierarchy.
viva la Raza Blanco!!
Wichita city council votes 5-2 to deny zoning at Oliver and Kellogg for a Wal mart store! Let the pigeons loose!
Cosmos.
When these folks start stealing $2000 debt cards, murdering each other, looting, pointing the finger at the government, stealing from each other, raising the crime rate in areas that accept them openly after being displaced… When any of this happens, you MIGHT have a leg to stand on. Until then, you are picking nits.
No kidding, Wal Mart.
Is this for real? You gotta link?
If it is, this is great news for our established neighborhoods.
If that’s true about Wal-Mart-beer all around!!
Can you tell I own a home in that area.
I wonder who the 2 were.
From kansas.com
“The Wichita City Council voted this morning to deny Wal-Mart’s request to build a superstore southeast of Kellogg and Oliver.Council members said Wal-Mart was not able to properly address nearby property owners’ concerns about harming their property values and quality of life.Council members said Wal-Mart is free to come back with another proposal if it addresses neighbors’ concerns.Wal-Mart had asked for more time to do so, but several council members said the council needed to show the public where it stands.Only Mayor Carlos Mayans and council member Paul Gray voted against denying the proposal. Gray said the council usually defers such matters for further discussion.About 50 people attended the meeting, many with signs opposing the project.”
!
“RD, who’s a mooran?”
Not I. Also, not me.
(See jill’s post. Can you make sense of it?)
Yeah I kinda noticed jill has a problem with language.And I spelled bad too.make that maroon.
Ah, she’s not here to defend herself. No use beating up someone who isn’t here.
Does anyone know how to turn off auto caching for these pages?
she’s not hurt any.what auto cache?
Have you clicked on a user name on the right and been taken to the TOP of that thread instead of that poster’s entry? The browser is serving you a cached (stored) page instead of a fresh page. Annoying. You have to refresh that page to get current content.
Oh thanks.I’m ignorant.U knew that.
SolDevVB,
Do you have a memory problem?You posted an email from Colorado that claimed that “No one howled for the government”.http://www.snopes.com/katrina/soapbox/dakota.asp
You were wrong — and FEMA is again (like with Katrina) SLOW responding to requests to help ranchers.
Do I have a memory problem? Uh, no, but obviously you do. Maybe you should read a little down thread from there. And you still don’t want to talk about the looting, theft, murders do you? Isn’t that convenient for you? Party on cosmos.
Tracy,Yeah, I’m thinking about having a big ol’ (XXL) sweatshirt made with “BALLS” on the front.
Just for the occasion.
And, maybe I’ll make a point of always wearing it when I’m perusing WeBlog.
Wal-Fart falls! Dang. Who knew?
I thought for sure it was a done deal. For the City Council to put the kibosh on it, things must have been pretty bad.
MOST excellent. David fells Goliath.
As I read it, Wal-Mart can return to the issue if it addresses the concerns expressed by the opponents. So, any celebration might be a bit premature.
Interesting. Home owners band together and say NO! to Wal-Mart when their property values are at stake.
When the issue is just low wages, no unions, and no real health care, heigh ho, business as usual . . .
The capacity to endure someone else’s pain knows no bounds. But don’t put that damn thing next to MY HOUSE.
If the Wal-Mart goes in the home owner’s home vale goes down without their choice. If someone works at Wal-Mart and can’t afford rent, they did so by choice. You still believe in ‘Its my body my choice’ right cap’n?
value*
Well, ya’ know Balls.I gave ya’ hell at first.But I’ve come around and decided you’re all right, even if ya’ do vote repug.Balls fits your personality, (and possibly mine), so wear it with PRIDE.
One problem with that analysis, SolVDB.
It assumes that there are all these good jobs out there and someone willingly CHOOSES Wal-Mart.
They work at Wal-Mart because it’s all they can get. And because Wal-Mart is so big, it can actually drive wages down in the entire area.
How is that a choice? These workers have a choice like slaves have a choice–work there or starve.
Hey brother, I don’t really buy that one. I moved to Michigan to be closer to my son (I don’t have custody) and my wife’s family is here. When the economy went south, so did I. I went where the work was. When the market stabilized a bit, we moved back.
Hey everbody, all you regulars especially.Our resident troll has gotten our fun over at the drug thread shut down.First time I’ve seen that!
I saw that, Tracy, it’s really sad when you think about it – nothing good to say, troll and lurk, shut down a thread that DID have some reasonable and thoughtful posters.
Well, I guess they’ll be over here before long.
Even if it wasn’t exactly highbrow commentary….IT WAS FUN!
See ya’ tommorrow and we’ll try it again.
Its back up. betting they are tracking IP addy’s
Sollie, I am loathe to agree with our good Capn’, but in the case of ChinaMart, I must concur. They not only pay their employees a pittance in relation to their profits, theeir slash and burn approach literally destroys all local mom and pop concerns, many of them having been established for decades.
The undercut all the competition via the stranglehold they have over their suppliers. I often compare ChinaMart to the Borg from Star Trek, their destructive capacity is similar.
I am a small business owner myself and I am all for free enterprise. However, i despise bandit robber-baron capitalism, monopoly and freebees and corporate welfare. Sadly, I fear that ChinaMart will try and try again here until they succeed: Resistance is Futile, You Will be Assimilated!!
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
SolDVB–
It’s a very complex issue, I’ll grant you.
A lot of people do succeed against terrible odds and other people fail when they seem to have every advantage. And certainly, if a worker doesn’t really try (or know how to try) to get a job, they probably won’t get one.
But the overall trend of Wal-Mart is just bad–it’s bad for the workers, it’s bad for the employees, it’s bad for the suppliers pushed to the wall and forced to outsource work to chase cheap labor, it’s bad for unions which have done more than any institution in bringing wealth to the middle class–why do you think the rich hate them so?
Some people some of the time may benefit in the short term from working or shopping at Wal Mart. But the overall model is a bad one for our society, IMHO.
Wow, good post, IAN!
I’m telling you man, your rage is justified, but you’re mad at the wrong people.
Racial and ethnic distinctions are nothing compared to class and access to power.
National Public Radio did a piece on some reconcilation projects between the KKK and local blacks. The Klansmen realized after some interaction that they were all in the same boat . . .
Good comments!
And it’s true that gov’t’s heavy-handed attempts to redress past wrongs have backfired.
Affirmative action for instance meets a lot of justifiable resistance–why should Bill Cosby’s daughter get special help getting into college when some poor white Appalachian kid that grew up using an outhouse gets nothing because he’s “white.”
There is no black and white–there’s only GREEN, money green.
I think the closure of the drug thread wasn’t due to the trolls – hell, we have those every day on every thread.
I’m willing to bet it’s because y’all were sharing stories on how to best toke the weed, use the bong, etc. I doubt the WE wants to be associated with a blog that has it’s members coaching each other on illegal activities.
… and that would be why the jokes about bongs, etc, are still there but the comments from trollers and lurkers are gone, right?
A little funny, KSGolfnut, why would you be defending the trolls?
In the interest of civility? Hmm.. what if you just want more ammunition to stalk me? What if you actually LIKE me? What if I end up thinking you’re an ok guy?
I doubt it, but hey, it could happen. Colt and I used to fight like fiends on the Sj boards till we met face to face.
I am laughing my butt off at the tee shirt, sign posts though. I just can’t think of anything else I’d wear a “pee” shirt to justifying the expense.
I’m still thinking about it. My curiosity is piqued.
Okie dokie. No pressure either way. Just seems like a decent idea.
Smoker, I’m not defending anyone – especially the trolls. Just making a logical observation.
Don’t do it, Mom, don’t do it! Think about your children!
jughead-care to provide proof to your accusations?
This troll, stalk and lurk thing is getting really lame – before long, the entire blog will be shut down because of this nonsense.
Good job, folks, It’s real freakin’ funny.
And you will be the first to complain when the blog is wiped off the website.
If I were you P Mom, I would be very wary of any offer of civility from Nutz. His standard MO is to try manipulation followed by intimidation followed by slander.
I am sorry to say, but it is obvious that he is up to no good.
BTW – Have you noticed that Uma and Jugge are only around when Nutz is around?
‘NOAA REPORTS 2006 WARMEST YEAR ON RECORD FOR U.S.General Warming Trend, El Ni?±o Contribute to Milder Winter Temps’http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/s2772.htm
DA,If I were trolling, I certainly wouldn’t be posting on this name at the same time.
Dude, relax.
Tracy has a little dick and WSClark’s malignant narcissism, paranoia and defensive aggression ‚Äì date from his relationship with his father rather than the mother-child bond. This has shaped all he has done and will do.
Interesting, Nutz then Uma…….
No connection?
DA,There were two hours between my last post and uma’s. At 7:29, I was on the stairmaster at the Y.
WSClark–
I used to get trolled all the time and I had all kinds of theories as who it was.
Many people have thought I was trolling them when I wasn’t.
I thought outlander was trolling me once because of the timing of his posts.
He wasn’t. I was very, very wrong.
The way this blog is set up, it’s virtually impossible for us on this side of the fence to guess who’s who and who’s posting.
The best you can do is use typekey which requires a password to log on. That way, if and when you get trolled, you can easily prove it wasn’t you because they’re not logged in to your account.
It’s a serious design flaw of this blog which the people in charge don’t want to take the time to fix apparently.
If you go to a really big, well run blog like DemocraticUnderground.com for instance, you can see how it should look.
Each thread is moderated. Disruptors posts are pulled, usually within ten minutes, and their user name account is deleted. Also the e-mail they use to set up a new account cannot be a free generic account such as yahoo or hotmail.
Also, instead of a huge list of 100 posts one has to wade through, they use “trees” so you can respond to a comment and someone can respond to your comment.
You don’t have to read 20 posts to see if anybody responded to you or not.