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Vindictive Paul and Joyce Morrison Now Pushing Personal Hate Campaign Against Phill Klinehttp://www.saljournal.com/blogs/?p=1725
Joyce Morrison starts E-mail chain letter; Paul Morrison sends letter to JoCo County Commissioners.
And your problem is, Meadow Muffin? Klline is lucky to have a job of any kind, nonetheless a position as DA. If justice were blind, he would be cleaning out stables at the KS State Fair.
Phill Klline has made a mockery of the law in Kansas by giving private medical records (obtained by court order) to Bill O’Reilly. For that alone, he should lose his license to “practice” law.
BTW – That is what Phill does – practice, but in his case, practice has yet to make perfect.
Mr. Morrison will soon learn that being Attorney General requires more than the experience of a County District Attorney.
I suspected that Morrison was the polar opposite of Kline, but evidently his foul mouth is just a clue into his unprofessional conduct and how he views others.
And what experience did the esteemed Mr. Phill Klline have before he took the office of KS AG?
Lover’s Lane Lurker?
Religious Right Reactionary?
Barefoot and Pregnant Advocate?
Fifties Fundamentalist?
Lawless Lawyer?
Oral Sex Solomon? (Okay for boys, big no-no for girls)
Just what did Phill the Pervert do before he was AG?
So who else heard the news two days ago about the freaky broad daylight UFO sighting at Chicago O’hare airport?Hundreds of people, all reliable professionals, witnessed this.The FBI was supposedly interviewing people in a wide range of jobs, all the way from Air Traffic contollers & pilots, down to the baggage handlers.
I’ve been waiting to hear more on this, but the story seems to have dissapeared!!(cue: Twilight Zone theme song)
correction, musta’ been at night.Sounds damn fishy on the FAA conclusion……..
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) — – Federal officials say it was probably just some weird weather phenomenon, but a group of United Airlines employees swear they saw a mysterious, saucer-shaped craft hovering over O’Hare Airport in November.
The workers, some of them pilots, said the object didn’t have lights and hovered over an airport terminal before shooting up through the clouds, according to a report in Monday’s Chicago Tribune.
The Federal Aviation Administration acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the control tower at O’Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object. But the controllers didn’t see anything, and a preliminary check of radar found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.
“Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon,” Cory said. “That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud) ceiling and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things.”
The FAA is not investigating, Cory said.
United spokeswoman Megan McCarthy said company officials don’t recall discussing any such incident from November 7.
At least one O’Hare controller, union official Craig Burzych, was amused by it all.
“To fly 7 million light years to O’Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable,” he said.
A group of workers, including pilots, told the Chicago Tribune on condition of anonymity in remarks published Monday that they saw a dark gray, flying saucer-like object hover motionless in the sky above the United terminal around 4:30 p.m. that day.
After several minutes, the object — described variously at 6 feet to 24 feet in diameter — bolted noiselessly upward through thick clouds so powerfully that it left an eerie hole in the clouds.
hmmmm……sound like “wierd weather” to you?
Tracy,
My kid brother is a commercial airline pilot and he has told me that he has often been witness to “unexplained phenomenon”. He also told me that the authorities and the airlines frown on the reporting of said “phenomenon”.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Tracy,It was a russia rocket re-enterig te atmosphere. I think NORAD put that out
Subject: Weather Bulletin – DenverAn interesting take on this storm :-)WEATHER BULLETIN – Denver, ColoradoUp here, in the “Mile-Hi City,” we just recovered from a Historic event – may I even say a “Weather Event” of “Biblical Proportions” – with a historic blizzard of up to 44″ inches of snow and winds to 90 MPH that broke trees in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds of motorists in lethal snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated scores of communities and cut power to 10’s of thousands.FYI:George Bush did not come.FEMA did nothing.No one howled for the government.No one blamed the government.No one even uttered an expletive on TV.Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton did not visit.Our Mayor did not blame Bush or anyone else.Our Governor did not blame Bush or anyone else, either.CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC or FOX did not visit – or report on this category 5 snowstorm. Nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards.No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House.No one looted.Nobody – I mean Nobody demanded the government do something.Nobody expected the government to do anything, either.No Larry King, No Bill O’Rielly, No Oprah, No Chris Mathews and No Geraldo Rivera.No Shaun Penn, No Barbara Striesand, No Hollywood types to be found.Nope, we just melted the snow for water.Sent out caravans of SUV’s to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars.The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks and didn’t ask for a penny.Local restaurants made food and the police and fire departments delivered it to the snowbound families.Families took in the stranded people – total strangers.We fired up wood stoves, broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman lanterns.We put on extra layers of clothes because up here it is “Work or Die.”We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of a mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades votes for ’sittin at home’ checks.Even though a Category “5″ blizzard of this scale has never fallen this early, we know it can happen and how to deal with it ourselves.”In my many travels, I have noticed that once one gets north of about 48 degrees North Latitude, 90% of the world’s social problems evaporate.”It does seem that way, at least to me.I hope this gets passed on.Maybe SOME people will get the message. The world does Not owe you a living.
Never mind Tracy, different story.
I saw that rocket last night. Eerily similar to the film of the Challenger disaster.
They showed the lights on the news, then reported that is was a rocket braking up on re-entry. My wife said ‘All those poor Russinas died then?’
from the ‘net
My Mom was a homemaker and dad worked all his life and paid into SS, dadhas passed away and now my Mom can barely make ends meet. While thepossible “illegal” alien in front of her at the grocery store buys thename brands, my Mom goes for the generic brands, and day old breads.She doesn’t have out of state calling on her phone, because she can’tafford it and shops at the thrift shops and dollar stores while the”illegal” aliens go to Mace’s, Gap, J.C. Penny, Banana Republic, etc.She considers having a pizza delivered once a week “eating out”. Shegrew up during the depression, watched her husband go overseas to fightin WW II a year after their marriage, and then they went on to raise,feed and clothe 5 children, scrounging to pay tuition for parochialschools.I’m sorry, but I can’t see how the Senate can justify this slap in theface to born and bred, or naturalized citizens.
It is already impossible to live on Social Security alone. If they givebenefits to “illegal” aliens who have never contributed, where does thatleave us that have paid into Social Security all our working lives?
Sollie–
I guess you missed the news last night showing National Guard helicopters choppering in giant hay bales to feed snowbound livestock.
Or the dairy farmer who has to run tons of milk into the storm drain because the milk truck can’t make it . . . fortunately, 90 percent of his losses are covered.
Western ranchers and farmers are already so heavily subsidized by taxpayers, it’s hard to know where gov’t help ends and private enterprise starts . . .
Has anyone seen the WBJ article on the Eagle layoffs?Sad.
I heard about the lay offs on Kake 10 news last night. Sad, indeed.
The real reason Harriet Miers is stepping down:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/04/AR2007010400778.html
SD, your link confirms my suspicions when I heard that she was stepping down.
Lawyering up already. Doesn’t sound like Bush wants to work with Congress after all.
CF is vacationing in Austin at the moment, and just heard the sad news that an important philosopher at the University of Texas has passed away.
Professor Robert Solomon, the author of over 40 books and an expert in existentialism, died in Zurich on January 2, at the age of 64. He was travelling with his wife, UT philosopher Kathleen Higgins. Solomon was an internationally recognized thinker, and his status as a public intellectual found an audience well beyond the walls of the academy.
Filmgoers may recall Professor Solomon’s cameo appearance in Richard Linklatter’s film “Waking Life,” where he argues for the continuing relevance of existentialism over against more recent trends in French philosophy. Here’s a link to the clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=82EV4KBIsNk
Professor Robert Solomon, 1942-2006.
SolDevVB,
“Maybe SOME people will get the message. The world does Not owe you a living.”
There seems to be a strange similarity between your 8:17 AM post,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/01/open_thread_4.html#comment-27285909and http://www.snopes.com/katrina/soapbox/dakota.asp
Do you make your “living” posting old, bogus, urban legends?
Thanks cosmos. That thing had definitely looked familiar.
Whyyyyy,…….That chickenhawk Bush sucks.Ol’ Harriet WAS PERFECT for the SCOTUS, but not good enough to defend this clown?Sheeee-eeeeeee-eeeesh.
Goes to show ya’ his REAL intentions….he needed a “yes-man/woman” on SCOTUS, to help keep his ass outta jail due to his trashing of the constitution and a fistfull of laws.
Man, this ain’t even funny.This incomptent asshat is soooo transparent.Shoot, at least ol’ slick Willie was a great lier.(A must for the job, huh?)
cosmos,Why yes I do. That and collecting $2,000 debit cards. With this posting I purchased a new yaht. Thanx for asking
The point being, you didn’t hear them whining and crying. Lots of folks needed help getting their live stock fed and watered. Lots of folks are without power. No one is pitching a bitch that the Feds haven’t jumped in with both feet. No one is bitching for a Fed hand out. Do you see the point?
Sol,I received that same email about Denver this morning, and I thought about posting it here, too – you beat me to it.
Whether it’s regurgitated from the net or not, it’s true. THAT’s the part the libs hate: TRUTH. =)
Look at Mississippi. Devistated. But it was New Orleans that you kept hearing about. How Bush screwed the pooch. What about those school busses that drown instead of getting folks out of downtown? The mayor screwed THAT pooch. But all we heard was whining and crying about Bush screwing up.
How about those displaced New Orleans folks that were taken in by Houston families. They never left. Now the Houston MURDER rate is hitting all time highs.
Different types of folks in the north and south. Should be apparent. But if you would rather argue with me because I live on the other side of the fence from you, secure your blinders and keep stumbling thru life.
National Guard is already helping all over the place. Also, the snowfall is infinitely less severe than Katrina.
I can last a long time in my house without power. I can only tread water for a short time.
Thing is golfer – it is NOT “truth”
Cap’n,No, I did not miss the part about the national guard. Huh, seems to still be Colorado folks taking care of Colorado folks. What is your point?
The dairy farmer pouring out milk? Must have missed the part where I said no one took losses due to the storm. Again, what is your point?
But but but…New Orleans has been a BASTION of liberalism for years. MANY years. It should be a panacea. A perfect world. LIBERAL PARADISE!!!
Yet, it’s riddled with crime, overrun with poverty, gripped with corruption.
Go figure.
National Guard = state agency.
=)
No-name. How long can you survive in your car under 12′ of snow?
No name.NOT true? Which part is not true? Can you show me where there are any Coloradans (sp?) asking for hand outs and debt cards? Can you show me where there are murders, robberies, looting… any of the number of atrocities committed by the ever liberal New Orleanians (sp?).
And do you know what those idiots did after THEIR Mayor left so many people in the water to die? After HE made sure HE was in a safe place and ignored everyone else? Those idiots re-elected him.
You know those liberals care so much for the people.
But hey, let’s throw up the race card and point at the White House. THAT’LL make everything better.
SolDevVB,
“No one is bitching for a Fed hand out.”
That’s pathetic. You should try to base your opinions on facts, and reality, instead of fictions.
‘Power outage may last 3 weeks’http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/16388854.htmGov. Kathleen Sebelius has asked for federal relief and emergency assistance for 44 of the state’s 105 counties. Her letter was carried to the White House on Thursday. State officials hope federal assistance will be approved within days.”
golfnut,”National Guard = state agency.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Guard“The United States National Guard is a component of the United States Army…”
national service (Title 10), national service under the command and control of the state governor (Title 32, Section 502[f]), and state service (Title 32). The federal government may provide funding for some Title 32 missions, but most are funded by the states.
heritage.org/Research/HomelandDefense/EM826.cfm
And that is a link to Kansas, NOT Colorado. Huh.
The bigger point being, if you want to pick nits, the PEOPLE of COLORADO. Do you hear THEM pitching and screaming?
Divert all you like, you can not compare the civility of the Coloradans to thos in New Orleans. Best of luck to you on that one.
Sol,
Comparing NO and Denver is like comparing apples to oranges. THINK, man!
“No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House.”
Were your houses underwater and you were climbing to rooftops to keep from drowning? I’ll wait to see photos of the house in Denver AFTER the snow is gone. Will they be totally destroyed?
“No one looted.”
One would have to loot his/her own home if he/she was snowed in…
“Nobody expected the government to do anything, either.”
So who’s feeding and watering those cattle?
“Nope, we just melted the snow for water.”
Ah, yes, that would be drinkable, unlike having petroleum products to swim in. Drinking it would kill you.
“Sent out caravans of SUV’s to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars.”
Of course, there were no boats saving people from rooftops…”The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks and didn’t ask for a penny.”
I recall truck drivers helping in NO, too, out of the kindness of their heart.”Local restaurants made food and the police and fire departments delivered it to the snowbound families.”
Meaning they were able to MAKE that food. Meaning they had power, refrigeration, and didn’t go for weeks, while the food spoiled.
“Families took in the stranded people – total strangers.”
And this didn’t happen in NO? Wait, someone had to HAVE a home to welcome strangers into.
“We fired up wood stoves, broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman lanterns.”
Yeah, well, in a flood, there isn’t FIREWOOD that’ll burn. I guess they could have set the water on fire…”We put on extra layers of clothes because up here it is “Work or Die.”
Assuming you could get to work and your workplace was still operational?
I know a few people who were in NO and the surrounding areas.
Tell me, were the sewers backing up in Denver? And just how many days has it been?
As the post states, most people were prepared. Denver has snow EVERY YEAR and is often “snowed in.” NO doesn’t have a hurrican every year. See? Not the same situation.
It wasn’t the same, Sol, and if you gave it some thought, instead of taking the high-and-mightly road, you’d know that.
Care to try again cosmos?
COS, man, don’t confuse us with facts and books and reading and links and all that bulloney.Us white conservative northerners are THE SHIT!You know, country boy can survive mentality.Go with your gut Balls!Colbert will be damned proud of ya’ll.
RD,Not the high and mighty road at all. OK, I got busted out on the original post. I got it in the email this morning from a friend with family in CO. Took his word on it. Shame on me.
Obviously not everyone is snowed in or they would not be able to get their SUVs out there. Not everyone is with out power, or they would not be cooking for folks. The point being is that they looked to themselves first before screeching about the government.
And how about the crimes that took place in the super dome? Stealing from each other? Yipeee there is some brotherly love for you.
Do Coloradans have the opportunity to rob and loot? I’m betting they do, they are just too human to do it.
As I said before, you can pick nits all day long. Fact will still remain Coloradans FAR outclass the scourge that plagued NO.
The National Guard, when involved in a state action, is funded by the state. Look at my previous link.
Yeah tracy, those pesky facts from reading…
national service (Title 10), national service under the command and control of the state governor (Title 32, Section 502[f]), and state service (Title 32). The federal government may provide funding for some Title 32 missions, but most are funded by the states.heritage.org/Research/HomelandDefense/EM826.cfm
SolDevVB,
Who paid for the Humvees, BlackHawks, etc that the National Guard uses.
http://test.denverpost.com/news/ci_4933755“State Rep. Cory Gardner, R-Yuma, and state Sen. Greg Brophy, R-Wray, on Monday urged U.S. Department of Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns to declare a number of Eastern Plains counties disaster areas, a first step in securing federal assistance.”
Hopefully I will survive in my car until the military rescues me. Several hours at least. A lot longer than under water.
Much of the Lousiana National Guard was in Iraq – fighting Bush’s war.
“Who paid for the Humvees, BlackHawks, etc that the National Guard uses?”
They were purchased by the Us Gov’t. The ONLY entity authorized to purchase militarized equipment. It is now owned and maintained by the state.
If by this you are implying that CO begged for fed funding, you missed the mark again. By a LONG shot. That had absolutely NOTHING to do with the crisis facing CO right now. Man, you are grasping for straws. Trying to imply the use of equipment already under state control is begging for fed funding? Wow.
“declare a number of Eastern Plains counties disaster areas”
This too is a far cry form exploiting multiple $2000 debt cards. Of course it is a disaster area!!! And you think this compares to a bunch of thieves yelling and screaming for the Feds to take care of them? Again, don’t pull a muscle reaching so far. You are still grabbing at nothing.
And I’m guessing that Co Guardsmen got a ‘get out of jail’ pass and didn’t have to go?
Y’all have a good weekend. I’ll be watching the news reports of the looting and robberies and murders in CO.
Or, Sol, they’ve been and are back.
SolDevVB,
Your 8:16 AM post: “No one howled for the government.”
CO state government is “government”.
And I was only pointing out that the National Guard uses equipment purchased with federal funds. You’re the one with the weird “begging” fixation.
I can’t find the news that Colorado suffered the same type of disaster as Katrina caused.
Would you PLEASE post a link proving that huge #’s of people in CO have lost their homes, their jobs, and have nothing but the clothes they’re wearing.
You seem unable to understand the obvious — more outside assistance is more likely to be required, if/when the disaster is more severe, and covers a larger area.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-bilmes5jan05,0,6627236.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
THE NEW YEAR brought with it the 3,000th American death in Iraq. But what’s equally alarming — and far less well known — is that for every fatality in Iraq, there are 16 injuries. That’s an unprecedented casualty level. In the Vietnam and Korean wars, by contrast, there were fewer than three people wounded for each fatality. In World Wars I and II, there were less than two.
That means we now have more than 50,000 wounded Iraq war soldiers. In one sense, this reflects positive change: Better medical care and stronger body armor are enabling many more soldiers to survive injuries that might have led, in earlier generations, to death. But like so much else about this war, the Bush administration failed to foresee what it would mean, failed to plan for the growing tide of veterans who would be in urgent need of medical and disability care. The result is that as the Iraq war approaches its fourth anniversary, the Department of Veterans Affairs is buckling under a growing volume of disability claims and rising demand for medical attention.
So far, more than 200,000 veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan have been treated at VA medical facilities — three times what the VA projected, according to a Government Accountability Office analysis. More than one-third of them have been diagnosed with mental health conditions, including post-traumatic stress disorder, acute depression and substance abuse. Thousands more have crippling disabilities such as brain or spinal injuries. In each of the last two years, the VA has underestimated the number of veterans who would seek help and the cost of treating them — forcing it to go cap in hand to Congress for billions of dollars in emergency funding.
WASHINGTON – The White House and the Secret Service quietly signed an agreement last spring in the midst of the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal declaring that records identifying visitors to the White House are not open to the public.
ADVERTISEMENTThe Bush administration didn’t reveal the existence of the memorandum of understanding until last fall. The White House is using it to deal with a legal problem on a separate front, a ruling by a federal judge ordering the production of Secret Service logs identifying visitors to the office of Vice President Dick Cheney.
In a federal appeals court filing three weeks ago, the administration’s lawyers used the memo in a legal argument aimed at overturning the judge’s ruling. The Washington Post is suing for access to the Secret Service logs.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070105/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_visitors
Jim Kobbe said a naughty. When i say bad words, I get a spank. Jim Kobbe should get a spank too, on TV, from Anita Cochran. If Anita was my mommy, I’d be bad a lot so she would spank me too.
Morg,
Filing for disability to the VA doesn’t necessarily mean a combat related injury.
Although any numbers I find appalling here are some other numbers.
“One is a Jul. 20, 2006, document titled “Compensation and Pension Benefit Activity Among Veterans of the Global War on Terrorism,” which shows that 152,669 veterans filed disability claims after fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan. Of the more than 100,000 claims granted, Veterans Administration records show at least 1,502 veterans have been compensated as 100 percent disabled.
Pentagon studies show that 12 percent of soldiers who have served in Iraq suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. The group Veterans for America, formerly the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation, estimates 70,000 Iraq war veterans have gone to the VA for mental health care.”
Sometimes and I found out this from experience of going to the VA from Vietnam Era, that Era Veterans of a campaign are often lumped in together with the actual campaign veterans for statistical purposes (more money for the VA.)
In simpler words a soldier that served in the Iraq Era Campaign but never left stateside would be included in statistics by the VA for headcount purposes.
This is not to lessen the amount of trauma that has been inflicted on our young men and women.
Just to let you know how the VA bean counters calculate the math.
Someplace I heard (don’t know where so can’t determine whether it was credible) the dead in Iraq only counts those who died on Iraqi soil. If they got them on the helicopter and lifted off or made it to a hospital in Germany or… they didn’t count in the “official” death count. Does anyone know whether this is true or ot?
Linda,
I’ve heard the same thing, many times over. In fact, I think there’s a website with the figures. (I’m sure Nutz will demand I provide a link.)
Whether true or not, the body count (I hate that expression) is much higher in the first 3 years of Iraq than it was in the first 3 years of Vietnam, even as currently stated. That means that if we stay in Iraq and the death toll continues to rise at a steady rate, we’ll far outnumber the 58,000+ of Vietnam.
Here’s an article about the DoD’s reporting of U.S. troop deaths in Iraq.
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/10554
Apparently, there are ways to find out if we’re being given the true count by the DoD. Whether the article is true or not, I don’t know. But it does put a new spin on things.
SolDevVB,
Your 8:16 AM post: “No one howled for the government.”
golfnut,
“Whether it’s regurgitated from the net or not, it’s true. THAT’s the part the libs hate: TRUTH. =) ”
Here’s the TRUTH,
‘Bush: Disaster Aid for Neb., Colo., Kan’http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6330721,00.html“DENVER (AP) – President Bush signed emergency declarations allowing federal aid to help Colorado, Nebraska and Kansas recover from back-to-back blizzards that shut down highways and knocked out power to tens of thousands of homes.” (continues)