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- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted Jan. 12, 2007 at 1:05 a.m.
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If a newspaper were to endorse a candidate for political office, should the newspaper disclose that the candidate is a former employee of the newspaper?
wow, I have been too busy and away from the WE Blog for awhile and what happens? You all let the weather go down the crapper!! Take care if you have to go out there… it will be treacherous! (kinda like navigating the WE.. LOL)!!
Living Life BackwardsI want to live my next life backwards:
You start out dead and get that out of the way.
Then you wake up in an old age home feeling better every day.
Then you get kicked out for being too healthy.
You enjoy your retirement and collect your pension.
Then when you start work, you get a gold watch on your first day.
You work 40 years until you’re too young to work.
You get ready for High School: drink alcohol, party, and you’re generally promiscuous.
Then you go to primary school, you become a kid, you play, and you have no responsibilities.
Then you become a baby, and.…
You spend your last 9 months floating peacefully in luxury, in spa-like conditions: central heating, room service on tap, and then….
You finish your life as an orgasm.
I rest my case.
little wry humor…read to the end…Every day there are news reports about more deaths. Every night on TV there are photos of death and destruction. Why are we still there?We occupied this land, which we had to take by force, but it causes us nothing but trouble. Why are we still there?Many of our children go there and never come back.Why are we still there?Their government is unstable, and they have loopy leadership.Why are we still there?
Many of their people are uncivilized. Why are we still there?The place is subject to natural disasters, from which we are supposed tobail them out. Why are we still there?There are more than 1,000 religioussects, which we do not understand. Why are we still there?Their folkways, foods, and fads are unfathomable to ordinary Americans. Why are we still there?We can’t even secure the borders. Why are we still there?They are billions of dollars in debt, and it will cost billions more torebuild, which we can’t afford. Why are we still there?It is becoming clear…WE MUST PULL OUT OF CALIFORNIA !—–
Poll Shows Americans In Favor Of Violent Ending To Rosie-Donald-Barbara SpatA just released TNOYF poll reveals that a large majority of U.S. citizens are pleased with Islamic Rage Boy’s mediation efforts in the now infamous Rosie O’Donnell-Donald Trump-Barbara Walters feud.
39% of those polled said they either “support” or “strongly support” the actions taken, while 60% said “it’s about f***ing time.”
The mediator himself had mixed feelings on the results.
“The old woman died well, with a sense of humor,” said Islamic Rage Boy. “She continued with her Elmer Fudd impressions right to the end. ‘Pwease Mistew Wage Boy, don’t kiw me!’- such spirit!
The one with the sandstorm-proof hair kept offering me money to spare him. Islamic Rage Boy cannot be bought. I shall not mourn his passing.
The large one I shall miss least. Singing the theme from Les Mis in an attempt to save her pitiful life was an error in judgment- I dislike the French as much as the next guy. Also, she kept screaming ‘You’re making a terrible mistake! I’m on your side!’. I am not sure what ’side’ she means. The ‘ill-informed, blathering, overweight, lesbian, show tune-singers’ side? I took particular joy in cramming the apple into her endlessly moving carb-hole.”
Islamic Rage Boy stated he is unsure about his next mediation assignment, but has been contacted by several people who would like to see something done about the ongoing row between Britney Spears’ vagina and her underwear.
Washington, DC (Ucs News) In a surprise move House Democrats voted to send 150,000 more troops into Iraq. House speaker Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) stated “George W. Bush is a coward and he is afraid to take the tough measures required to finish the war he started.” Pelosi went on to suggest a draft would be called to raise the required troops for deployment in Iraq.Senate Democrats also lashed out at the President. Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) called the Presidents 21,000 troops “Barely a half measure” in Reid’s mind the Presidents troop request is designed to carry the war to the end of Bush’s term. According to Reid “We can’t let George W. Bush kick the can down the road for 2 more years. We have to end this.”
While the President is thinking ahead to a retirement in Crawford, Reid and his fellow Democrats plan to finish the iraq campaign in the next 9 months. Reid and Pelosi plan to have Bagdad calmed and US troops home in time to vote Democratic in the 2008 Presidential elections.
With Republicans staggering in the polls a Democratic Presidential win in 2008 almost assured. In preparation of the victory Democrats pushing to wrap up the war before they take over the White House in 2008. According to Democratic strategists winning the war should be a top priority for the newly elected Democratic majority.
Looking ahead, Democrats do not want their President elect saddled with cleaning up George W. Bush’s mess in Iraq. According to Pelosi the Voters of America have spoken “They want this war over and they think Democrats are the ones to finish it.”
Brilliant!
Top Ten Features of Bush’s New Iraq PlanTop Ten1 Make the war best two-out-of-three2 Blame it on that crazy New York gas leak3 Convene blue-ribbon study group; ignore recommendations4 Consult with Rumsfeld, who’s now working as a casino greeter5 Sit on ass until January 2009; let Hillary figure it out6 Send Cheney to Baghdad with a shotgun7 Tax cuts for the rich8 Put Giants coach Tom Coughlin in charge of enemy, watch them collapse9Raise money for escalation by robbing Mick Jagger’s apartment10 Dig up Saddam and execute him again—–
How about dig up Saddam and place him in charge?
“To Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s credit, House Democrats recently passed ethics legislation that included provisions making earmarks more transparent. … It’s hard to argue that this is anything but elementary good government.
Unless you are Harry Reid. The ethics reform offered by Senate Democrats contained none of these tougher earmark provisions. So Senate Republicans, led by South Carolina’s Jim DeMint, cheekily took the identical language of the House earmark bill and offered it as an amendment to the Senate version. Numerous Democrats instantly denounced it, apparently unaware (or unconcerned) that the language had been sponsored by Ms. Pelosi.
… Of the 46 Senators who voted to banish Ms. Pelosi’s reform, 38 of them were her fellow Democrats. The seven Republicans who went along with Mr. Reid included some of the GOP’s biggest spenders (Trent Lott) and Members of the Appropriations Committee, aka Earmark Central Station. When Senator DeMint then moved to have his amendment accepted by voice vote — which is customary — Mr. Durbin objected. The effect of these procedural run-arounds was to give Mr. Reid more time to twist a few more Democratic arms into killing earmark reform.”
Quote of the Day:
In February 1957, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles promulgated,
“I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews.”
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
“House Republicans yesterday declared “something fishy” about the major tuna company in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco district being exempted from the minimum-wage increase that Democrats approved this week.”I am shocked,” said Rep. Eric Cantor, Virginia Republican and his party’s chief deputy whip, noting that Mrs. Pelosi campaigned heavily on promises of honest government. “Now we find out that she is exempting hometown companies from minimum wage. This is exactly the hypocrisy and double talk that we have come to expect from the Democrats.”
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070112-120720-2734r.htm
I’m thinking that around 10 this morning, the budget for sand and salt for the roads will be spent.
I agree Heckler – she should be called to explain why that was done. And, it would seem that it should be removed.
“This is exactly the hypocrisy and double talk that we have come to expect from the Democrats.”
If that isn’t a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black – I don’t know what is…
Granted, Pelosi’s actions seem suspect, but seriously, to throw a caveat like that on and otherwise somewhat informed statement, just completely invalidates your point.. And we all need to bear in mind that we are only getting ONE side of the story…
Good job Heckler! That is a story that the Eagle will, I’m sure, be all over. As in the news coverage of this is over.
Ah, Wendy. This will only give you people another chance to defend the indefensible.Begin.
Anonymous is shocked–SHOCKED! I tell you–to learn that Democratic congresspeople don’t always agree with each other.
Yeah, they should all vote “party line” like the Republicans do.
Regarding your first post, who are you talking about and yes they should and yes they do.
If you’re referring to Raj Goyle’s internship at the Eagle, the paper disclosed this numerous times.
He’s already sponsored more legislation in his first week on the job than Boo-hoo Bonnie Huy did in six years.
Besides, this will give her more time to figure out how to keep her house appraisals flat while all her neighbors’ keep going up . . .
Capn
Introducing lots of legislation is NOT necessarily a good thing.
Gee, Fleet if you actually read my WHOLE post – “Granted, Pelosi’s actions seem suspect,” HMMM – does it sound like I am defending ANYTHING – I think not. Rather, what I am suggesting is that we go into this with ALL the facts, rather than the statements of one OBVIOUSLY BIASED individual – oh but wait, I guess that’s all you know how to do – my bad, I totally forgot the word of any Republican is the word of GOD…. (read: sarcasm, for those of you that don’t get it… )
heckler’s Rev. Moonie owned Washington Times,
“House Republicans yesterday declared “something fishy”…”
A less partisan, more accurate explanation. (emphasis added)
‘Island rights and wage bill intertwined’http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/011007/island.htmlHouse Democrats plan to bring the Northern Mariana Islands in line with U.S. minimum wage laws under legislation that comes to the floor today, thus ending a DECADE of policy FAVORING island businesses secured by lobbyist Jack ABRAMOFF and former Rep. Tom DELAY (R-Texas)….The LOCAL GOVERNMENT of that U.S. territory [American Samoa] is concerned about the impact implementing the FULL minimum wage would have on its tuna-canning industry.Samoa’s wage-review committee consults with the U.S. Department of Interior on proposed wage increases’ impact, and has managed to keep minimum wages dollars BELOW federal levels.”
What’s wrong Fleet – no response? Oh right, because you were throwing around name calling, while I was quietly and maturely suggesting we get all the FACTS before we jump to conclusions, and oh, imagine that, turns out I was RIGHT and that ONE person’s opinion turned to out be biased – oh and that I was NEVER trying to defend Pelosi or the Democrats as you so claimed I was, but rather was suggesting that we look at the whole picture rather than one persons OPINION on the picture – damn, I just hate it when I’m right – happens so much these days!
I’ve seen it often enough. You people will defend this act by Pelosi. All I had to do is wait.Looks like cosmos has already started.
Thanks cosmos … from the link:
Democrats, however, are finding it difficult to clean up the mess Abramoff and Co. left behind, especially when dealing with the only U.S. territory that lacks a delegate in Washington. The Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands’ (CNMI) government has a resident representative in Washington, a position that carries no congressional office or powers, even the right to make statements on the House floor.
For years, DeLay and Abramoff worked to block a delegate bill from coming to the floor. Legislation giving the islands a delegate has passed the House Resources Committee several times in the last few years, but former Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) never placed the bill on the legislative calendar. The presence of a Mariana delegate in Congress would diminish significantly the islands’ need for a lobbyist to speak for them in Washington.
Of course, fleettwood defends Abramoff and then lambastes the Democrats for not cleaning up his mess fast enough.
I have not defended Abramoff. That is mean and now I’m really mad and depressed.
You really should be mad about the fact that you totally blew the argument and needlessly defamed Nancy Pelosi.
You should be aware, Fleetnutz, that Pelosi is going to introduce a bill requiring ditto-heads to register at their local police stattion, so that the government can keep track of them.
It’s true, Fleet! It’s true!
fleet,
Looks like Abramoff, Hastert, and DeLay did a GREAT job helping “the major tuna company in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco district” ;)
‘Wage Rates in American Samoa’http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/americanSamoa/ASminwage.htm“Fish Canning & Processing” = $3.26/hour
Are you saying that $3.26/hour is not enough?
fleet,
Didn’t you agree with heckler’s 9:36 AM upthread (your 10:12, 10:13 AM) — that it was wrong for Pelosi to help one of her “hometown” companies? And that she was dishonest and a hypocrite for doing so? “Indefensible”?
So you said that the American Samoans should NOT be “exempted from the minimum-wage increase that Democrats approved this week.”
Oh, give it up fleet – you were WRONG! and “you people”? i think I am offended – you don’t know me, you don’t know my party affiliation (IF I am even affiliate with a party for that matter, and as it happens I am not – i have voted for BOTH parties based on the ability of the candidate and NOTHING else) and i resent your implication that I am anything other than what I have represented myself to be :) There, is that better for you?
Yes, cosmos, it is wrong for Pelosi grant the exemption. Don’t you think it looks like “business as usual”. Didn’t she echo Clinton when she said this congress would be the most ethical? Something does smell fishy and it’s not Pelosi’s undies.Ah, Wendy, you people, another unaffiliated voter. I guess it’s better than calling yourself a member of the Democrat party.
JRWhere are you. This Pelosi chick sound like just your kind.
Powerful, greedy politicians push aside low-income families in order to feather their own nests. A sort of “Robin Hood” rip-off in reverse.
Pelosi Culture of Corruption – Presidio Partners, Hunters Point Redevelopment and more
snipWhile Madam Nancy Pelosi polishes her spin, the too many skeletons in her closet threaten to come crashing out the door.
Conflicts of interest mark the ambitious career of the House Speaker designate and her past will someday catch up with her, perhaps at a time most inconvenient for her Democrat colleagues.
Breathtaking in sheer boldness, the conflicts are the stuff of movies, the kind with a storyline in which the heroine lectures her defeated opponents about their Culture of Corruption, only to find herself at the center of her own Culture of Corruption.
http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/site/article.php?sid=411
You know what’s funny about that link you just posted. A whole lot of the ‘pelosi is a scammer’ language made the whole damn thing REALLY hard to understand.
It sounds to me like whoever wrote this piece, and extremely poorly at that, was trying to connect a whole lot of very loose dots.
Heckler, I’m sure there’s enough people investigating her from every angle.I’ll let them handle it.They have more experience bringing down crooks and liars (if that’s the case).
fleet,
So despite opposition from Samoa’s local government, who are concerned it could cause businesses to fail, you believe wages should jump from $3.26/hr to $7.25/hr by 2009? Samoa’s only “safety net” is food stamps.
And it must really anger you that Abramoff, Hastert, and DeLay kept them at $3.26/hr.
There is opposition to the minimum wage everywhere, starting with me. I say let the market rule. If you don’t like it, move, get another job, start your own business. Just stop looking to the goverment, womb to the tomb.Increasing minimum wage forces employers to pay people more than they are worth. Nothing good about that.Why don’t you people force employers to pay people $50 an hour and get it over with?
The people have spoken.Minimum wage is going up.The people won.
Anybody remember those three words?We the people….
Make up your mind, Fleet.
First you want Pelosi investigated because the Samoans were not included in the Minimum Wage bill – even though they were not cover by a MW statute under the Republicans.
Then you argue that there should not be any minimum wage.
Which is it?
Ah, see but that’s the thing, WSClark – Fleet doesn’t expect people to notice or call him on his hypocrisy, and when we do, he doesn’t have any answers for us other than some vague name calling and evasive manuevering to try to get away from the subject – you can’t expect to have a rational discussion with him…
BTW woody,That’s what govt does, govern.From womb to tomb.
What a pathetic and disgusting display, partisan hacks reduced to bleating; “my party is less corrupt and incompetent than your party”.
Lord, I despise demonocracy and I shall not mourn its’ coming demise!
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
And what would you like to see Santiago, a total dictatorship?
GWB – Dic-tator for life.
Hillary?
Obama?
Bill?
Did you know the Kansas Water Authority and the Kansas Water Board were meeting this week?
Not much coverage, other than Sara Kessinger from Harris News. Here is a link
http://online.hdnews.net/content/news/water011207.shtml
The answer is……No minimum wage.
Next question.
Then shut up about Pelosi, Fleet.
fleet,
“I say let the market rule. If you don’t like it, move, get another job, start your own business.”
So NOW you’re saying that Pelosi was right to exempt Samoa.
The canneries would probably leave the island if wages went to $7.25/hr, causing 40% of the workforce to become unemployed.All those unemployed would then hurt the non-cannery businesses.
You flip-flop more than a tuna on a hot boat deck.
I have a serious question for liberals here. Those who are pro-aborition. (I’m pro-aborition too), but just want to poise a scenario to see how far a Liberal will go.
Genetic Scientist are getting close to isolating many genes that we can identify in each individual and there is evidence that their might be a gene some people posses that makes them gay. A gay gene as you will. If this gene can be discovered before birth, would you still allow women to abort their babies because they known them to have the gay gene?
Oh come on Joe.
You are better than this.
This latest little wrinkle in the abortion debate is being bandied about by gas bag parsers like Rush Limbaugh. The idea being to force those in favor of a womans right to choose into a hypocritical confrontation with their support of equal rights for homosexuals.
It’s a non starter Joe. And you are too smart not to know it.
There might be a few folks in the middle who would find a place to argue here. But think about it.
A person who would abort a pregnancy because the fetus is predisposed to be gay is not likely to be looking at such a test in the first place. Neither would they be looking for an abortion. Neither is a person who has a more liberal attitude toward homosexuality likely to think to ask for such a test.
They are finding that people may be predisposed genetically to be liberal or conservative as well. Would I abort a conservative fetus? I mean for no other reason than it was gonna grow up to be a conservative? No.
But if my kid becomes a Republican I’ll disown him : )
Women do abort fetuses after finding out about genetic disorders and diseases. Many have aborted after finding out the sex of the baby.
It is a good aurgument. But if you’re not brave enough to tackle it, I understand. Most liberals can’t debate, only try to dismiss.
Joe I just told you why it was a non issue.
Let me put it simpler.
People who hate homosexuals tend to love embryos. No?
Now you’re not one of the gay bashers Joe. So I think you might want to re-think equating homosexuality with a disease or disorder. Oops?
I hope our posts cross Joe.
I always enjoy an adventure into Williams world! This could be fun.
And how DID I miss this?
“Many have aborted after finding out the sex of the baby.”
They HAVE? In America? Oh I’m sure it happens. But “many”? Got a link on that?
Hows about you answer you tell us your feelings on the matter Joe? As far as I know, you don’t have any kids. Would you abort a gay fetus?
You and Rush and the folks trying to make this a dilemna for liberals are pissing on the wrong tree. Ask somone who hates homosexuals what they would do.
Or….did I just do that?
Yes, considering the hell that child would probably endure by a parent who would abort them just for being gay.
Most parents will not abort for that reason though.
I say, it’s her choice, her body. And I can promise you that there are some diseases to have that are worse than death.
I think Joe tripped over the land mine he tried to lay for liberals.
Yikes talk about chilling! Imagine some fundie family finding out they will be giving birth to a homosexual child! They would spend the kids whole childhood trying to “heal” him or her. Poor kid.
homosexuality <– a choice
Anyone that chooses to be a homo should be put to death! Anyone that even thinks about homos should be flogged. This KSGolfnut should be beaten and hung for choosing to be a homo. They don’t call them queers for nothing!
Sorry, I am new to this blog-thread thing but this stuff about homosexuals set me off. This Golfnut guy that chose to be a homo is what is wwrong with our liberal society. Why anyone would want to be a pole smoker is beyond me. I watch what I put into my mouth. I may not come back here if this is how you folks are going to be.
What the hell, why would anyonechoose to be a homo?
Tell me testicles, how exactly did you choose to be heterosexual?
You folks ar wierd! Who do you call tecticles? Damn that is some strange stuff. First some guy chooses to be a homo then this tecticles bit.
Pee, you know better.
So, you’re saying that you actually are attracted to men too and you CHOOSE to just sleep with women?
Have you been partying with DA tonight?
Nope. But sigh, I do miss those days lol.
I have this feeling that you’re not talking about the gay question though, are you?
Are you the guy that wants to be a homo? If you ar I know this guy at work that is swishy and maybe he could give you lessons. Give me your phone number and Ill have him calll you. Being a homo is sick, but if thats what you want to do, you may a well learn from a pro. This guy offered me a blow job once so I am sure he can help you out.
This blogger thing is really weoird – do you folks always act like this?