You’re invited to attend a meet-up of WE Bloggers from 7 to 8:30 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 25, at The Eagle building, 820 E. Douglas (across the street from Old Town). We’ll probably have a format similar to our last meet-up — mostly mingle but also do questions and gripes and a short Eagle tour for anyone interested. Hope you can attend.
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Sadly, I send my regrets.I will be out of the country…most of you know why :)
Reasons MrC will not be there:10: He won’t be really “out of the country”, just Kansas, which makes it seem out of the country.9: He’s going to Mexico to cheaply fill his perscription for Viagra.8: He’s going to Pakistan to open a new WalMart.7: He’s going to Iraq to open a new WalMart.6: Need coffee.5: He’s taking Tiller’s records out of the country for a proper burial.4: He’s stealing the plans for the new arena and plans on selling them to France.3: He’s stealing the new arena and plans on selling it to Kazackistan.2: Need coffee.1: Him and former attorney general Phil Kline are getting hitched in Sweden.
Well, I’m glad it’s just a gay wedding.I figured it was extrordinary rendition. HAJust kidden guys.Mornin Walker.
I’ll have to see if I can convince the warden to let me out long enough to come shake hands.
I’ll try to get there – I’ll be the one with the jacket that laces up the back! ;^)
Ahhhhhhh, the We Blog meet up. All the subversives will be there to honor the Eagle anti-government agenda. This might not be a safe place to meet because you cannot trust the Eagle ever, on anything, anywhere.
JM- I’ll be there to check up on your droolin’!Feel free to check up on mine!
G
If each male showed up in a t-shirt reading NUTZ and each female one that read Pee would anyone be confused? Or would we just need to cinch the back laces tighter and wipe our chins?
I’ve never seen GolfNuts or pmom in the same room at the same time.hmmmmm
I’d love to come – but my anniversay is the 25th. We’ll be having dinner at the Scotch & Sirloin. 15 Glorious years. You’re all welcome to come join us for a drink at the bar after the meeting. My treat.
How conveeeeeeeweenient for nutz.
Ya know nutz, you could drop by before or after. Let us meet the little woman. Show yer face.
Chicken hawk.
On my 20th anniversary, I gave my wife 15 red roses. She asked why only 15 roses. I said it was one rose for every good year.She handed me 4 roses back.
Thank you! I’ll be here all week.
Farmie,The WE could have picked any night other that the 25th. I’ve offered to meet others for drinks or lunch, and I’ll do it again.
I might even extend the same offer to you. If you’re gonna be in town on the 25th, How about lunch?
You don’t have snakes on your head, do you?
We’re never in the same room, WTF? We’re always here bantering the heck out of each other.
Testicles, you want us to come abuse drugs with you for your anniversary? Heh.
LINDA woman tell me you’ll attend. Maybe I’ll have to fork over the dough for a Pee shirt afterall. It’ll be yellow lol.
Actually, I’m thinking about meeting Nutsy up in Salina, he offered, wanna come with me? Bring your paintball gun :D.
Testicles, I think farm lives closer to me.
Nutz, I dont have a burning desire to meet you. Actually, I have no desire, hot or cold, to meet you.
I just know the wanna be’s on the blog just never seem to be able to show up in person.
Of course, Tara is excluded due to commuting distance. :) But we already know she is for real.
I think that everyone here is “real”, except for Will/CrusaderX, etc. I think that he is just a pigment of Ian’s imagination.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Come on KFG, come with me to meet Testicles. I don’t wanna go alone- I need backup. I’m planning to take my hubby if I do go, but he doesn’t involve himself in politics so he’ll prolly just sit there while me and testicles scream at one another.
I would like to put faces and names with posters, although I’ve never been anyplace where appropriate attire includes bibs AND jackets that lace up the back. :-) So many here seem to have already met and made friendships it makes it intimidating for me, a newcomer. I’m more likely to sit back and listen than put in my two cents worth. I always figure someone else’s two cents is worth more than mine. Guess I can’t meet anyone without making the effort so I have it on the calendar.
I haven’t met anyone yet either Linda.
Nah Pee,There is no reason to scream. I don’t even get that animated on here – leave that to DA.
Bring Farmie with you. I’m sure we’d have a good ol’ time.
However, I will make THIS bet:
You will never see Linda and Pee together in the same place.
Why’s that?
Why not Balls?Are they old enemies?
Ms. Inks, don’t be intimidated.I’ve never met ANY of the bloggers,and I’m seriously considering showing up.I promise not to eat any flaming dragon farts until after the tour, at least.
Look at it as going to a wart convention- see who has what, where and how many!
“Bring Farmie with you. I’m sure we’d have a good ol’ time.”
heheheheeh. Only if we eat at Martinelli’s.
You dont need me for backup or an audience. Or as a referee, but I always love eating at Martinelli’s.
hehehehehehheh
It’s just a bet. If they both show up on the 25th, then I’ll stand corrected.
Oh I think I get what Nutster is saying…that me and Linda are the same person.
Nope sorry testicles, no doughnut.
Ok, Martinelli’s it is. Saturday afternoon on the 20th?
ME TOO, that is my fav place!
You’re gonna make me miss sleep aren’t you?
And besides, I might be protesting remember?
Sleepy Politicalmom = cranky bitch.
Speaking of which, that is where I need to head.
Sorry, I work on weekends. You’ll just have to duke it out without me.
ah geez Trace! Mental image I didn’t need.Nutz – congrats on the anniversary.
I plan on attending (good Lord willing and the creek don’t rise).
Hope everyone who is able will make it. Yes, those of us who’ve met before have developed a camaraderie. But would enjoy meeting new faces to go along with names on the blog.
I fear that I would be killed if I were to attend.
Julie,Thanks, and I’m sorry I won’t be there to meet you.
Put your paranoia on hold, Jim G., nobody was ever killed at a social gathering!
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
Relax Jim :)
If they havent killed me yet, they wont hurt you!
Dearest ksfarmgrrl,
In person you are a delightful and charming person. Besides, no one would ever walk past your fried chicken to do you harm!
Hank
Damn, hank’s on to me.
The fried chicken shield. My secret defense.
It protects the treasure of the potato salad.
I was under the impression that Farmie owns a restaurant. Pee – Why don’t we go there?
The 6:18 post was mine. The 7:43 post was not. More troll drool subverting the screen.
I may or may not be there. If the troll shows up, I may have to visit with him/her . . . hehehe.
Lull me once, shame on me, lull me twice….uhh, hmm,…won’t get fooled again.
Where should I dine to enjoy this fried chicken?
Triple X will be there to see friends and for the sake of old times.
And of course introduce Rebecca to my blog friends.
Will put this on my calender.
Is Mr. C away on his honeymoon? Will Joe Williams serve as best man at the wedding? :-)
Haven’t seen J R around in awhile – hope he sees this.
Look forward to seeing old and new faces.
Someone really should email junior. Any one have his addy?
Hmmm, XXX and Pol_Mom will be there.
Very tempting.
Steve,We are NOT going there, okay?
XXX-finally get to meet the girlfriend.Yay! I’ll be nice and won’t make up horror stories to tell. :)
Alas, I won’t be there this time, and the old-timers know why. Oh well.
Don’t worry about JR, Sol; several of us have his addy.
The chicke is no defense for your tater salad, I can grab a drumstick and dig into the tater salad at the same time.
I’ll try and make it, however I might have to ask Mary for a date, my wife is too mean to bring.
Hank
Dearest Jim G.,You are correct.This is an evil conspiracy to fatten you up on KFG’s fried chicken an’ taters….(maniacal laughter in background)AND THEN MOVE IN FOR THE KILL!!!
CF will probably be there. And if the weather’s especially bad, he may even wear his pointy Commie hat. The one with the ear flaps and red star.
Hank we’d rather you bring Nathan (we’d know he was home safe then)but still love to have Mary.
Nathan seems to be doing OK. Of course he’s not telling momma allhe knows!
I do appreciate all the prayers and good thoughts.
Hank
Hank- Where have you been hiding? Were you grounded?I thought my BS Meter was broken!
LOL
Hank,Your wife struck me as one who doesn’t have a mean bone in her body. But I won’t blame her if she’d rather not be in the company of crazed radicals…on both sides, of course. *grin*
Linda,If you can, attend. It’s worth getting to know everyone, no matter what their politics.
A Thursday night, huh? I have to miss CSI AND Shark? Bummer. The things I have to sacrifice… But as long as the weather isn’t bad and the streets aren’t slick, I plan to be there…even if it means driving after dark, which I hate.
“ws-I would say you are a traitor, a coward and support terrorists.So what? Cut and run if you want.
Posted by: fleettwood | January 11, 2007 at 02:16 PM”
Is there any wonder why I won’t be there?
Don’t blame me. Meeting with people are recovering addicts, clinically depressed, impoverished, mad at the world and defenders of rapists and murderers sounds awful to me.
Fleetwood, if your tongue was on fire, I wouldn’t piss in your mouth to save your life.
Dang, Clarkie, you have been uber feisty, hostile and paranoid as of late. I thought that smoking weed was supposed to make you serene and mellow? Was is los, huh??
viva la raza blanco!!
ws-That is just gross and probably criminally negligent.
I think I’ll try to make it; it will be interesting to put faces to some of these nics..
Gosh, I won’t be able to imagine y’all with horns and pointy ears anymore . . . :D
I have just been to the one meet-up, the first one. It was interesting.
I think a good reason to go is that while you think you may know someone from reading what they write on this venue, the meet up can be a useful reminder that didn’t really know them.
Fleet can’t be what he writes. He can’t be so unidimensional.
So, WSClark, I encourage you to reconsider your decision. Remember, not long ago, you were inviting people from here to your house for Thanksgiving. Going to the meet-up will help you decide if that was sheer recklessness, or not a bad thing to do.
“probably criminally negligent.”
Sorry Fleetwood, I piss when and where I want.
And Mr. Davis, I tend to take it a little personal when some one calls me a traitor to my country.
I guess I am a little funny that way, but spending social time with someone that thinks that I am guilty of treason and deserves to be hung is not my idea of a good time.
fleets, we didn’t want to meet you anyway.
I don’t know testicles, she hasn’t shared where her restaurant is, so I don’t think she wants us there.
Sorry Ian or the “real Ian or whomever you are……
Until I know that the person I am responding to is really Santiago, then I will have to defer.
If you are really Ian Santiago, then why has your nic changed to “the real….”
Trollers? Who would have guessed?
DA,Are you this hateful in real life?
WSC,
You weren’t a part of the blog yet when Nathan and I spent the better part of our time arguing with each other. I doubt we’ll ever agree on much of anything, but it was a good thing and a real pleasure to actually meet him and his dad Hank.
Meetups and blog posting are as different as night and day. We post things on here that we would NEVER consider saying to someone in person. At meetups we get to know each other as people and individuals, and we learn that, in many ways, we’re all the same, no matter what our politics, our sexual orientation, our religious beliefs, or our bank accounts.
Why miss out on meeting those who may become good friends AND most likely miss out on an enjoyable evening, because of one or two people you want to avoid?
ws-Don’t be a cry baby. A couple of jabs and you are on the floor. Don’t take this so hard.I think my tongue is on fire.A little help here.
I can understand WSC’s sentiment. But I think to choose to not meet people you’d probably like to avoid those few who make dumb statements here is short-sighted. But, hey, its a free country – well, more or less.
I agree. Making somebody mad is one thing, but I don’t want to make somebody feel bad.Fun that isn’t, by Yoda
OK OK You are not a traitor or a coward. You shouldn’t be hung. Though I wish I was.
“…you’d probably like, to avoid…”
Kind of like “eats, shoots, and leaves” vs. “eats shoots and leaves” – those commas can make a difference.
mmmmmm shoots and leaves and beer
“ws-Don’t be a cry baby. A couple of jabs and you are on the floor. Don’t take this so hard.”
Well let’s try this Fleetwood. You have accused me of a capital crime, one that normal gets the convict executed via electric chair or hanging.
Apparently, you thought accusing me of treason was funny.
Ha ha ha, William Stephenson Clark is going to be hung for crimes against his country. Ha hah ha.
Whoopie! That’s a real knee slapper! A man, father, grandfather, good citizen that cares about the future of his country will be executed for treason.
That is funny as hell!!!!!
Whoooo! Funny shit!!!
Damn that is funny!!!!!
Execute him!!!!!!
_Eats, shoots, and leaves_ was a book on punctuation by a British humorist.
Isn’t the term ‘British humorist’, an oxymoron?
Now let’s flip the tables, Fleetwood.
I am accusing Fleetwood of killing his daughter, raping her dead body and tossing her lifeless corpse along side a country road.
Disgusting.
A capital crime.
You should be put to death.
Your “alleged” crime killed an innocent being.
My “alleged” crime killed thousands.
Oh, now it’s not so funny?
It’s not a joke now?
It’s disgusting?
Well, why was it funny when you accused me of betraying my country?
Actually, the term, “British humor”, is a unique study in polar opposites.
Opps . . . humorist . . . must be a latent California thing. I’ll work on that.
“You can believe what you want to believe,But you don’t have live like a refugee.”
Tom Pettycirca, 1979
” I am IRON MAN”Black Sabbath:whenever.
Hey, Fleetwood, can’t take a couple of jabs?
Does that make me crazy-gnarles barkley
I am not interested in arguing WSClark, but isn’t it at least a possibility, that fleetwood is completely clueless in regard to what he is talking about – most of the time?
I think it would be shame to let that dumbass give you hypertension.
_Iron Man_was circa 1971 – I saw that version of Ozzy’s band on their “Paranoid” tour at the _Round House_ (precursor to the Koch Arena) my junior year in High School – I think that is right any way.
HANK!!!! How the heck are ya?!
kfg – bringing chicken and tater salad?
I’ll also ditto rox – Hank and Nathan are good people. I disagree with them a lot but can respect them. And, in person, you would be surprised at common ground found. In our case we had a very interesting discussion about nuclear power.
SD, my blood pressure is 120/80 at age 54, the same as it has been since I was sixteen.
As for Fleetwood, Golf Nutz, Joe Williams, SLVB, Raptor, Santiago, etc., it is my life’s mission to confront idiots, bigots, morons, losers, jerk offs, liars, numbskulls, dead child rapers, killer, millers, thieves, whack offs, jack offs, muggers, buggers, Klansmens, John Birchers, torturers, Bushers, Reaganites, Bush acolytes, racists, Nixonites, mother rapers, father rapers, drunks, bank robbers, litterers, trash tossers, ditto-heads, comma-heads, bushmen, car jackers, bike jackers, shoe jackers, sandal jackers, soul jackers, moles, tolehouse cookies, Confederate flag flyers, Confederate wannabe’s, Confederate sympathizers, Confederate whack offs, jack offs and general Consevatives mind fuckers.
But don’t let me get carried away.
Sorry Ben, but there is no way that I could have a civil conservation with someone that called me a traitor.
Whooaaa, dude, I saw Black Sabbath at the WSU arena around 1970. Are we old, or what???
Give it up, ws.One thing I do know, if I did rape and murder my daughter, it would be you people who would try the hardest to keep me off death row.
enema, you are out of your damn mind. That is now factual.
DA is off the deep end. Dude NEEDS his drugs – that is for certain.
“you people who would try the hardest”
Sorry, Fleetfuck, but I would be on the jury that convicted you and I would be one of the volunteers at your execution.
And I would be having a party after your death.
I have to say that it is sad that the very conservatives that advocated the worst for the people that had the courage to stand up against this mindless war are now trying to claim the high road.
We were the worst of the worst. Duke Cunningham wanted us to be lined up against the wall and shot.
Ann Coulter wanted us hung with the rest of the Gitmo prisoners.
Sean Hannity wanted us imprisoned for life at heard labor.
Bill O’Reilly wanted us sentenced to life watching reruns of the Factor.
And now the haters on the right want us to walk hand in hand with them down the road of bipartisan, skipping to the tune of “He’s a Jolly Good Fellow” as we sing the praises of George W Bush.
And the bastards wonder why we are angry.
Coulter wished that her hero Tim McVeigh had bombed the NYTimes. And they accuse US of hate.
“Whooaaa, dude, I saw Black Sabbath at the WSU arena around 1970. Are we old, or what???”
Yeah, Walker, we were at the same concert I am betting. It was quite the experience as I recall.
The first concert I saw at the roundhouse was Jefferson Airplane, also circa 1970. They had just released their album _Volunteers of America_. Grace Slick was pregnant and giving the cops there all kinds of grief.
Yes, we’re getting old, but I think you are older than me.
WS
After reading your last rant (yes, rant is the right word), do us all a favor.
Stay away. Stay far away. And lock up the ammunition.
Don’t worry GM, the odds of me spending even ten seconds with you or JM or Raptor or SLVB or Santiago or Fleetwood or KSGolfnut or KS Germ or any of your other friends and haters is absolutely zero.
As I posted, you folks did not have a problem accusing me of capital crimes against my country, but now that the tide has turned against you, you want me to play nice.
I can only hope that you all are afflicted with a terminal case of athletes foot.
PS – I don’t have a gun in which to put the ammunition, but I do have a nasty streak with which to fight back against all you haters.
The concert that I remember from 1970 was one that I attended in Hawaii, at the Wakiki Shell.
A few months later, while on patrol in the Sea of Japan on the Henry Clay, I learned of JJ’s death.
The album that was recorded at that cocert was her best and probably one of the best of all time.
Hank
Would any of these be a sharp stick?
WS
Re-read the last couple of rants (5:15, 7:27) and tell me again who the “hater” is . . .
Several weeks ago, I had a shooting war with Ian Santiago over his overt racist, anti-semitic attitudes. As most of you know, I am multi-cultural, including being partially Native American, Jewish, African-American, as well as Irish, English, German and Norweign.
At the time, none of the right-wingers here defended me because it was Santiago’s “right to free speech” to defame me, my family and my culture.
Now, those same right-wingers are taking offense because I am angry and firing back at them for accusing me of being a traitor.
So what is it, you right-wing hypocrits? Is it free speech or is it only free when they agree with your view of the world?
Or is it that you really do agree with Santiago but don’t have the balls to say so?
Funny, I have a lot more respect for Santiago for having the guts to express his opinion, however wrong, than I do for all of the right-wingers that have no guts.
Did I hit too close to home, GM?
“partially Native American, Jewish, African-American, as well as Irish, English, German and Norweign.”So, this means you are a drunk business man who likes white women and drinks with bad teeth and hates Jews and whatever the sterotype is supposed be used for Norweigans (I couldn’t come up with that one).
Hey Clark,
Cool dowm, Most of us right wingers don’t read Ian’s posts. Furthermore we’re much to smart to get in a ’shooting war’ with him.
I seldom read your posts, not for any particular reason, other than they are becoming predictable.
Here’s a link for you, light one up and enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjtfGvFFt48
Love ya,
Hank
WS
If you’ve read my postings over time, you know where I stand re: Ian. He’s a racist pig. I give him exactly the attention he deserves – none at all.
A “shooting war” is exactly what he wants – it feeds his feeble ego. You were on the right side, certainly, but you played right into his hands.
I do know one, thing. All persons (even our resident racists, Ian and Ed) are entitled by basic courtesy. Even when they don’t deserve it. Perhaps most when they don’t deserve it.
And don’t give me that “free speech only whey they agree” BS. NO ONE is more “free speech for me, but not for thee” than the political left.
I’m neither Coulter, nor O’Reilly, nor Hannity, etc. etc. etc. I’ll stand by what I right, but I’ll take no responsibility for any others.
Ya want to get into a “shooting war” with me, you can try. But I won’t play. You’re welcome at the meet-up; please try to calm down, however. We may disagree, and that’s OK. I’ll be civil; but I won’t be intimidated. I’ll speak my mind, when I’m inclined to do so. I won’t shut up because you go off on a rant. And I’ll be responsible for what I say. Period.
“partially Native American, Jewish, African-American, as well as Irish, English, German and Norweign.”So, this means you are a drunk business man who likes white women and drinks with bad teeth and hates Jews and whatever the sterotype is supposed be used for Norweigans (I couldn’t come up with that one).
Posted by: fleettwood | January 11, 2007 at 08:59 PM”
And would anyone wonder why I would not attend an event where I was disrespected like this?
Because a BLOG by its very nature is an opinion fest, good and bad, indifferent.
The pen can be mightier than the sword, but I doubt if anyone at the meet will pull a papermate on you.
heh
If you want to shoot, GM, my gun belt is fully stocked, and I have no issues with firing back.
You right-winger are mistaken when you think that ALL liberals are easy marks. There are some that lay down when the shooting starts, just as some right-wingers are cowards, like Cheney and Bush.
This liberal has no problem engaging in a fight.
Quite frankly, I am spoiling for a fight. I am sick of being called a traitor and a coward.
In the words of your Imperial Leader: Bring it on!
One of the ways to be responsible for and stand by your remarks is to attend a BLOG meetup.
I’ve missed a few, but I plan to attend the next one.
I’m amused by the people on this BLOG that take themselves so seriously that they refer to their petty comments as a ’shooting war’.
There are those of us that post here that have been in a shooting war.
Hank
Hey, JM, weren’t you the one that wanted to have me banned from the blog because I was “junking up the thread” when I invited anyone to my home that had nowhere to go for Thanksgiving?
Yes, now that I think about it – it was you!
I offered an open invitation to anyone that did not have a place to go for Thanksgiving and YOU took offense. You wanted to argue with me about using the thread for making such an offer, then you wanted to have me banned.
Yeah, that was you, JM.
By the way, we all had a great Thanksgiving.
Here’s a link for you, Hank.
http://www.bushflash.com/right.html
Cool.
Who’s bringing their gun?
And is The Eagle a gun free zone?
Cause I’m not coming without my gun.
Petty comments, eh, Hank?
Petty comments like the Holocaust is a myth?
Petty comments like I must be slow because I have African American blood?
Petty comments like Jews are responsible for all of the wars of the world?
I guess I must be a little TOO sensitive, eh, Hank?
Why don’t you start in on the Native American part of me now, Hank?
Don’t sweat it, WSClark.
Just bring your gun.
I think someone needs his nap.
Wow, this is all very sophisticated.
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
No WSClark,
I did not threaten to have you banned from the blog. Those were your words and you wrote them enough I guess you started believing it was me.
As I recall, you started putting in things irrelevant to the thread topic and it was becoming very hard to follow.
Look it up if you like. As far as I am concerned it is over with.
But if you like grudges go aheard, grudge on.
WSC – I’d like to meet you; and I’m sure you will find Hank to be a man of honor – albeit a bit right-wing! ;^) The nutcases like what you quote above represent a fringe – unfortunately there are too many.
A chuckle at JM lambasting you for offering to “feed the hungry” on Thanksgiving. Didn’t some trouble-maker tell us to do that once? About 2000 years ago?
By the way – the only ‘weapon’ I saw Hank brandish was a burger flipper!
Nice try, JM. Your words were that I was going to be “banned from the blog from juking up the threads.”
But thanks for playing.
You know, JM, you certainly are a two-faced blogger.
“I think someone needs his nap.”
I thought you were going to “bring it on” GM.
No times for naps now that the war is going to begin!
“I think someone needs his nap.”
Good point. Damn 10-hour days …
Hank – hope to see ya! We can trade lies about Nathan!
“A “shooting war” is exactly what he wants – it feeds his feeble ego. You were on the right side, certainly, but you played right into his hands.”
So, GM, when faced with bigotry and racism the best course of action is to……
IGNORE?
Oh, what the hell – they aren’t talking about me! So what if they advocate the extermination of Jews? I am not Jewish.
So what if they hate blacks? I am not African American.
So what if they make jokes about drunken Indians? I am not Native American.
So what if they want to have liberals killed? I am not a left-winger.
So what if they want to execute balding old white men?
Wait! What did you say?
In case you missed it, WS, the “someone” is you. I suggest warm chocolate milk. It’s a great soothing, calming influence; it’s hard to be cranky with a cup of hot chocolate.
So, GM, when faced with bigotry and racism the best course of action is to……
IGNORE?
I’ll try to make it.
:)
Looking forward to the meetup.
“Nice try, JM. Your words were that I was going to be “banned from the blog from juking up the threads.”But thanks for playing.You know, JM, you certainly are a two-faced blogger.”Posted by: WSClark | January 11, 2007 at 09:37 PM
Evidently WSClark that topic back in November still bothers you.
This is what I wrote to get you started.
“All this rhetoric from Jew Boy and Ian is getting old. Put on some boxing gloves and get it settled.
Stop junking up the blog.”
Posted by: JM | November 20, 2006 at 08:23 PM
That was specifically addressed to Jew Boy and Ian. Of course, no one at the time you were posting a troll nicknamed “JewBoy.” Even JR made a comment about it.
“WS? Didn’t figure you for “Jew boy”. I won’t say who I THOUGHT it was, but trust me this is a complment.”Posted by: J R | November 20, 2006 at 10:19 PM
You and Ian were going after each other and as a result WE pulled both sets of posts.
I had no idea you that WSClark and JewBoy were the same person.
You revealed that later down the thread.
When you remarked that you were offended on me “getting you banned.”
The post was ID signed and dated by:
Posted by: WSClark | November 20, 2006 at 09:26 PM
So, the so-called insult was to someone nicknamed JewBoy and Ian whose post WERE pulled.
I don’t feel any guilt in that and will do it again.
WSClark just needs to get over himself. Come on man! Meet us at the Meet-up, you’ll find that none of us actually have horns, a tail and carrying pitchforks.
Be sure to wear your “Bush Lied, People Died” tee-shirt! Nobody going to care.
No need to chicken out!
None of the posts were pulled other than the infamous finger that WE asked me to stop using.
BTW – They said that they thought it was great, but they were asked to have it stopped.
But you were okay with getting me banned, JM, because I was “junking up the threads.”
I am sure that you would do it again, JM. In your world, anyone that disagrees with you should be banned. Anyone that stands up for themselves should be banned. Anyone that stands up for minorities should be banned.
Did you ever post that Santiago should be banned?
Did you ever post that folks that were accusing me of being a traitor should be banned?
Did you ever post those that would imsult my patriotism should be banned?
I didn’t think so.
But, by the way, I have defended you on several occasions.
But who the hell cares?
“No need to chicken out!”
I have no fear, Joe, in fact if anyone wants to private e-mail me, we can name a place and time…..
But I will not socialize with people that accuse me of being a traitor to my country.
My e-mail addy is live, Joe. Do you want some of this?
WSClark,
Evidently you care or you wouldn’t keep posting on blaming everyone else but yourself for your own positions in which you seem unwilling to defend.
It’s a lot easier to flail your arms about and blame everyone else, isn’t WSClark?
Sure! You going to bring cookies?
I’ll met up with you!
…and which position of mine am I unwilling to defend, JM?
I can defend myself just fine, but the question is can you attack me without getting your ass kicked?
And no cookies, Joe. You accused me of chickening out – so bring it on.
Oh come now Clark, these people have called me traitor, baby killer, blah blah blah, and I’ve dished it right back.
Seems to me they’re just picking at you to get you riled up.
Why should I attack you? I’m over what ever went on between us before.
Evidently you like to hang on to grudges. Clutch it closely, that grudge is rapidly becoming your best and only friend.
Notes on WSClark (aka: DA) -
1. He’s got a serious anger problem.2. It’s worse when he’s smokin’ dope.3. He’s got some kind of homosexual fantasy.4. He can’t debate without swearing like a street hooker.
I have many friends, JM, many, many friends and many family members.
But you seem to forget that you attacked me just two days ago – unprovoked.
Now, obviously I didn’t hold a grudge since I have defended you several times, but you still attacked me without provocation.
So who has a problem with grudges?
“Seems to me they’re just picking at you to get you riled up.”
I like it, P Mom! I can take all of them on, smoke a joint, drink a dozen beers, have sex with my girlfriend, make dinner and do the dishes and still kick their butts all over the web!
Just between you and me, they’re all a bunch a half-witted losers!
Warm milk, WS. Cookies are good. Take a nap. Think sweet thoughts. There’s another day.
Life’s too short to hang on to petty slights.
Again WSClark! What are you talking about? You actually talking about fist fighting? For what? Where did all of this come from? I guess I need to go back and read all your posting to see why you suddenly got angry and cocky.
I was saying chickening out on the Meet-up, because you said on one of your post, that you didn’t want to come because of right-wingers. And I was just saying it wasn’t all the bad and to come. There is going to be cookies there.
Hell! When I was saying I was going to meet up with you, I was thinking about Knollas Pizza on the East Side, my treat. But I guess you have something different in mind.
I’ll meet up with you. You know, to bs, debate, discuss, give each other a hard time, laugh about thing. What we all do. But I think you’re a bit too over the edge right now.
But when you calm down, an invitation to Pizza still stands, if you want.
But if you’re going to just bully people around here and talk crap by threatening to beat people up, then maybe we should meet at the police station.
“Life’s too short to hang on to petty slights.”
Hmmmm, petty slights? Being accused of being a traitor to my country is a petty slight?
I thought they hung people for that.
Yeah, I am pretty sure that treason is a capital crime.
I guess I should just laugh it off.
Right? You would laugh it off, wouldn’t you, GM?
I think not.
Joe Williams,
If WSClark doesn’t show up I’ll eat his pizza. heh heh.
This from CNN.COM
U.S. soldiers say when deployed correctly sectarian violence goes down‚Ä¢ Soldier on effectiveness of more troops: “You never really know”‚Ä¢ Soldiers say most Americans don’t fully understand what’s going on in Iraq
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/11/damon.baghdad.reaction/index.html
I don’t remember any physical threats, Joe, in fact I am quite careful to note that I have no intention of violence. Perhaps you should visit with Santiago. He wanted a private meeting and I was most careful to state that there would be no violence on my part. He was the one that made it clear that he was quite a bit younger and larger than I.
Actually, Joe, it has been over thirty-five years since I have had occasion to smack someone, although I do know how to take care of myself.
I have no interest in fighting with you physically. You may want to rethink your comment. Reread my post and youwill see that I have never threatened anyone physically.
My bad wrong thread. :(
Go right ahead, JM, I only break bread with people that I consider to be friends.
WOW
A meet up thread that actually has traffic without me as a flashpoint!
Truly I am flattered.
Sorry I’ve been away. My internet access expired. BUt in the great economy of bush, I have cashed my 401k at great penalty, regained my access and am back.Actually I was “back” earlier but have been catching up.
For this?
AND I arrive in the middle of a fight? I’ll cut short to catch up more…..
My appologies man. Just the statement “ass kicked”, but re-reading it, I know what you mean.
But I guess you have some beef with Mr. Santiago, but you’re spilling it out on the rest of the people.
I was just trying to convience you to come to the WE meet up. If not, then we can meet up. I’m not one bit afraid of you or anybody. I don’t think you’re going to swing a baseball bat at me just because we disagree politically.
I bet we can eat pizza, discuss politics, even give each other a hard time and still find out that we have things in common and agree with many similar issues. Friends do that to each other all the time.
But right wingers should hardely be an excuse to not come to the WE meet-up.
WS -
I blow much off what I read here; especially when someone gets their panties in a wad (hint, hint). How (or why) we would keep track, or hunt down, something posted months ago is beyond me. None of us are all that important, no matter that the internet and blogging tends to swell our heads and make us think we are more influential than we are.
And until you calm down, this will be my last posting to you; certainly, it will be the last this evening.
Life looks new in the a.m. And BTW – I’ll break bread with anyone who’s civil, even those – especially those – I disagree with. It makes for an enjoyable evening of discussion and exchange, over a beer and your favorite snacks. I can disagree, deeply, fervently, passionately, and still be civil and personable. It’s not personal.
Try it.
Sorry to hear you’re having trouble JR. Cashing in the 401K is pretty much a last resort.
You have friends here. If you need help, just ask.
Here, here, Joe. We all need a hand now and then.
and WS – that’s “blow off much of what I read here.”
Maybe I need that nap, too.
Junior-Hint: get a job.
I was about to turn in myself, until news popped out about an explosion at a US Embassy in Greece.
“Try it.”
I try it all the time, GM, and I am quite successful, however, it gets very tiresome to be called a traitor or a coward or anti-American or any other the other hundreds of insults that are tossed at me without losing my temper.
Most of my friends consider me to be the center of attention at parties and other get togethers. I am witty, charming and gracious. I include each and all into every conversation and I am respectful and decent to all. I go out of my way to be friendly and accepting and I rarely allow a converstation to become combative.
That is my nature.
There is just one exception, however, and that is when I am accused of being a guilty of a crime against my country.
Now, I have to say, that not a single one of you right-wingers defeded me when JM and Fleet accused me of being a traitor.
Not one.
And not one of you right-wingers defended my heritage when attacked by Santiago.
Not one.
And not one of you right-wingers even raised a finger in my defense when I was attacked by KSGolfnut.
And then all of you got so excited that I brought the big guns out this evening. All of you screamed that I was being unfair, holding grudges, yada, yada, yada.
You folks on the right can dish it out. You folks on the right can watch while others dish it out. You folks on the right can remain silent while someone is defamed for race, color, creed, national originor sexual orientation….
But none of you can take it.
And that is why I would never spend a single moment in public with any of you.
WS?
You let fleetwood get at you?
Hereabouts fleetwood is comic relief. You are getting pissed off about a clown.
And Ian pissed you off? Ian is Ian. He does not apologize to me or anyone else here for what he believes. He never has. That makes him a lot more honest than some of the bushbots.
Meet up huh? Well I’ll see.
A definite plus would be if WS was there.
Hey why don’t the editors say who they’d like to see there? Why don’t other bloggers say who they’d like to see there?
Bill the thing. Get the heavy hitters like kfg and TRACY and such? Hey these are folks who have a long trip. Make it worth it for them. That gets folks interested.
Ya don’t even have to serve pizza. Just sell the thing.
Why should anyone stand up in your defense to defend you from anyone in a blog?
Get it? It is a blog.
Now, if someone was picking on you in the street, I’d be right there defending you despite your personal views.
Evidently, your new to online discussions. I started with them way back in the early 1980s when Compuserve was still around. And yeah there was some real knotheads back then.
Anyway, time for a shower…
Look man! I haven’t even read where they attack you, but for all on respects man, nobody shouldn’t have to defend you. You can do it for yourself.
I get slaughtered by leftist on here all the time who do nothing by name call and even get personal like XXX did. I stand up on my own. I don’t ask the other leftist or rightist on here to defend me or to condemn what others say.
I don’t even hardly read many of the posts or get on here every day, so I miss a lot.
I understand how angry you can get when it’s a personal attack. It’s happened to me and I responded with anger. But I do calm down and take a deep breath.
I also understand how you feel about not meeting up with people you don’t like. I personally don’t like Mr. Controversy. I find him a despicable human being. Nothing politically, just his character. If he was at the meet-up, I wouldn’t talk to him, but it wouldn’t deter me either.
Hey WS is your email live?
Hey WS I gotta crash. My email is live. Write me. I’ll flesh out the right wing program for ya. I like to help new folks.
I guess, J R, that being called a traitor repeatedly kind of gets to me.
I guess also that some of the other mindless attacks are bothersome as well.
It’s not that I can’t defend myself – it is the reaction that I get when I DO defend myself.
It seems that we are supposed to take the crap without defending. The right-winger are quick to cover their ample asses, but those on the left are supposed to be good little boys and girls.
I am really disgusted by a lot of these folks on the WE Blog. They can dish the shit but they get all up in arms when someone, especially some one on the left, fires back at them.
No insult seems to great for the right-wingers – traitor, coward, treason, terrorist, appeaser, doper, sissy, pussy, etc.
But when you call them out:
Oh, no, this is just a blog!
We really didn’t mean to suggest that you should be hung!
Why are you so sensative – everyone one the left is a coward!
Yada, yada, yada.
I am from the city – a city boy that learned a long time ago that you don’t disrespect unless you have the cajones to back it up.
From what I have gather on this blog, the right wingers are severly lacking in cajones.
As I have said before, they can dish it out, but they can’t take it.
I have been called a coward and a traitor for the last time.
Yes, my e-mail is live….. for anyone.
JR I’m glad to see you back, sorry you had to cash in your 401k just to keep up with the bills. I know how it is.
Had to cash in the 401(k) to pay the bills…blame it on Bush’s economy…yet, Junior refuses to get a job…
How is that Bush’s fault?
DA,Your demand that we cut and run shows that you don’t want us to win in Iraq. You want the US to lose.
Explain to me how you are NOT anti-american? And a coward?
Visit your e-mail Nutz – I made you an offer – every correspondence between you and I will be private – not on the blog – I won’t argue publically again – but the e-mail is an offer.
Not that any of you would defend me, but, for the record, no reply on the blog or via e-mail from Nutz, and there were no threats of violence or any physical confrontation.
Just for the record.
Here chickie chickie!
Gotta be some cute chicks on this blog.
I’ll be thinking of you while I’m gone…with one exception.
For the record, DA -I went to bed just before midnight.
This is interesting . . .
“I’ll flesh out the right wing program for ya.”
The right wing PROGRAM?
OK, who let JR in on the vast right wing conspiracy?! We don’t let just anyone in, now, come on!
Yeesh. And liberals wonder why we read their rants and just chuckle.
Nutz-before you start taking cheap shots on JR. You gotta know his background. He was gainfully employed for a long time. However his health took a major and severe nosedive and he is unable to work for heath related reasons. I believe he would work in a heartbeat if he could find a job that would accommodate his health issues.
Julie,Point taken. However, I’m referring to his ongoing contempt and outward criticism of ALL employers and capitalism in general on this blog when I suggest that he get a job.
Maybe I should acknowledge that he’s disabled and grant him some kind of “special license to bitch” privilege.
Or maybe I (we) should just ignore him altogether. I dunno.
Perhaps we should all just ignore KSGolfnut altogether.
BTW, Nut, cute chicks with brains have better things to do than stroke your overblown…ego. Send my condolences to your wife.
rd-You silly rabbit. We don’t want cute chicks with brains, we want cute chicks with no brains, big tits and bigger bank accounts.
Yup. That’s why I’m not going–Enema bag’s post above, exhibit A.
If I want to mingle with idiots like that, I’ll just go to Hooters.
I don’t go to Hooters either.
“In what concerns you much, do not think that you have companions: know that you are alone in the world.”Henry David Thoreau
Maybe we need to think about an alternative WE Blog meet….. for progressives on both sides.
Can’t make this one, I’m leaving for Palau on the 26th, too much to do before I go. I’ll miss seeing you all.
Good idea, Wes. We can meet before or after at a locale of our choosing, like The Blue Lounge or The Anchor Bar.
Seriously though, I wonder if The Eagle is cool with all these hot heads packing heat traipsing through their facilities.
Heigh ho.
PALAU! Sheesh. Do you have to paddle a catamaran to get there?
That sounds like an exotic destination.
Enjoy your trip.
We’ll be here, staring at milo stubble.
Hey, capn-Grow a sense of humor.
Roxanne,Feel free.
KSGoof–
Nobody’s asking for or desirous of your permission.
Hey, Enema boy–
Grow a brain.
Oh, capn. Snap!
The last 10 or so posts illustrate exactly why we DO need this meet-up.
It’s much harder to be an ass (on both sides) to someone you’ve met personally. We’ll find that neither side has horns or pitchforks, and both sides have personable, likeable folks. We might even decide that we can disagree without using the kind of nastiness exhibited here. Exactly what does that accomplish, anyway?
We take ourselves much too seriously here.
Actually, I just read the notice more carefully.
I have work obligations on Thursday evenings.
Can’t make it.
The rest of you, be sure to bring your legally permitted guns though . . . everybody feels safer knowing that a tool of deadly force is handy for whomever wants to use it.
GMC70,
Indeed. Though, for the record, Nathan and I had a very civil time at the second meetup–after, as promised, I rather sheepishly told him to go fuck himself.
FYI, Rox,the “cute chicks” post was made by my troll – DA (WSC).
Wow, will there be booze and guns and this shindig?????? Oy Vay!!!
viva la Raza Blanco!!
I plan on being there and meeting those who can make it.
But, my post was real. And funny!
Golfnuts aka Moron,
You spelled my name wrong.
No, fleet, your post sounded just like you. A pig.
Can we please stop fighting about stupid shit and move on to the important shit to fight about?
Roxie,You pick how you want to spell your name. I’ll spell it how I want.
Deal.
Golf = a lover, not a fighter
roxxx-Please don’t be mean.Just hold me.
I hope the Eagle has one of those “no gun” doohickeys up.
So, how was it? Any bloodshed?
Next WE Blog meeting is at Ala Moana Beach Park, Honolulu, HI. It’s BYOP (bring your own pineapple) :)
Read through this thread and this thread and as best as I can determine this is the WE Blog attendance/nonattendance/ambiguous list. Order determined by how soon bloggers committed or committed not to…
_Not Coming:_
mr. controversy – other obligations
KSGolfnut – anniversary
Rage – can’t make it (long distance)
CapnAmerica – work obligations
WSClark – plans to not go
Mary Caruso – will be in Palau (where is that?)
_At least Planning on Showing:_
TRACY
gster
Julie
XXX (with womanfriend)
Steven Davis
Hank Price – (was HP saying he was a Janis Joplin fan – if so, that is enough to redeem him from any past sins… :-))
CF
Ben Huie
GMC70
RD
Joe Williams
Vaughn Tolle
_Unclear if showing or not:_ (sorry if inaccurate here – with some folks I couldn’t determine their intentions)
JMWalker
Lindainks55
Fleetwood
Ian Santiago
Political Mom
JM – implies he will be there to eat WSC’s pizza (Joke or not?)
ksfrmgrrl – ?
J R – I don’t think I read a commitment one way or the other
Am I forgetting anyone? Please speak up, if I have.
Cosmos, hmmm, cs and … don’t know without looking haven’t said one way or the other.
I said a few days ago on Arctic ice shelf thread that I wouldn’t be able to make it.
Here’s the aforementioned email sent to me last night from WSC:
>> Well, Nutz, let’s do this away>> from your adoring>> crowd………….
>> Name the time and place, boy.
>> William Stephenson Clark
Man, oh man..talk about the need for anger management. *whew*
DA:What’s the plan here? Wanna meet behind the malt shop and duke it out?
I thought pot was supposed to make one MELLOW. With you, it seems to have the opposite impact. Or, have you moved on to the heavier stuff?
Can where do you want to meet, Nutz?
I’m heading out to the East Y for a workout. Feel free to join.
As I have said several times, I have no interest in physical violence. I know how to take care of myself, but I am sure that it won’t be necessary with you.
I just want you to try to call me a coward to my face.
Just once.
You are what you are, DA. “Coward” is one of the nicer words I’d use.
Anytime, Nutz, but let’s take this private.
Reply to the e-mail, boy.
I’ll be at the East Y for the next couple of hours, DA. In the weight room, then cardio.
I’ll even make it easy for you: Gray KU shirt. I’ll be extra sweaty. =)
You won’t show – Coward.
Short notice obviously, boy. Nice try, though.
But as I said, take it private, via e-mail, I’m not going to play a blog game with you.
Looks like ws has flipped again.Watch this,
“Hey, ws! You are a traitor and should be hung”.
Boys, boys, boys, let’s keep it civil, please! I sure am glad that JR, our blog sherrif has returned, just in time!
viva La Raza Blanco!!
Thanks, JM & cosmos.
comos is in the not attending list. That’s too bad, you know your absence will mean a significant drop in the mean IQ of the group. Our group needs all of the favorable outliers we can get.
Nuts, you can’t meet at the Y unless you have a membership. I’m betting he doesn’t.
Hey, Steven, are you planning on bringing your Mrs. to the get together. I know that she thinks I am the anti-Christ and all. :)
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
My poor spouse may be correct in regard to you Ian, but she was raised Catholic in a small Kansas town and somehow got the idea if you are a racist you are doomed to hell. I asked her to show me where the Bible supported her belief and she has not been able to show me yet. Maybe she is right, I don’t know.
On second thought, if you make everything based on race and all what you believe is tied up in that, maybe one is doomed to “hell on earth”.
See my above post of Tom Petty lyrics.
People make everything based on political party affiliation.
Some will even disown their own children if they find out they didn’t adopt a party or political ideology as their own.
Awww I didn’t mean to be evasive or coy Steven.
I’m a single self employed dad remember. If whatever I’m doing is less interesting than the meetup I might show. My boss is real liberal that way.Thanks for getting my back Julie. I’m not too concerned with mr. Goofs opinion of me ….or much of anything come to think of it though. It’s nice that he is not coming to a function no one wants him at. Kharma?
Julie’s baby I’m sure is not a problem and I know everyone wants to see her. But what about older kids who are easily bored? And if they ARE welcome? The Editors must promise to serve only decaf!
See? You have to be interactive about these things. Who is gonna be there from the Eagle?
nah, Pee-Anyone can come in our Y. We sign in on the honor system.
I hope you can make it J R. Tell Ebinezer you need the night off!
I will confess some absences make me more unhappy than others.
Would like to see hmmm… and Heckler make it.
I know I am forgetting others.
Yes, who from the editors will be there?
Has anybody noticed the new photo that accompanies Randy’s op/eds in the paper version of the Eagle? If you were to put that photo beside the one above, I would swear they were not the same person. Not sure what that means… Because, we baby boomers, are not, contrary to rumors otherwise, aging.
Farm Gal’s Fried Chicken and Potato Salad? I’ll be there! And Jim G, if you still have personal safety issues, you can come sit between me and Farm Gal. You’ll be safe there!
The Y, GolfNut?
Isn’t that kind of plebian for you?
I mean I work out there, but I love the people.
Country clubs don’t have work out rooms?
Figures.
I wish I was home to be here for the meet up.
So, have fun all.
If Nathan could go, I would go. Stay strong!
hee hee hee jed
Are you wanting to be a lesbian avenger too?
hee hee hee hee hee
Sorry, no chicken and potato salad this time. I am not sure I can make it, and weather will play a part in the decision.
In any event, if I attend, I wanna sample some of your high falutin’ city food.
And Hank still owes me sushi…
hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee
Hey, KFG, do you have chicken fried steak on the menu at your eatery? Ian loves chicken fried steak with gravy!!
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
Comrade,I’ve been a member of the Y since 1989. It’s the best fitness club in town.
I’m all about having the best.
I have already had my tour of the Eagle back when it was the Eagle and Beacon. I used to work there every Saturday putting inserts in the Sunday papers. They sit a big pallet of ad inserts by you and then the papers come down a conveyor in stacks of around 10 as I recall and you put the inserts in the paper. Once you get good at it, it was like “pop-pop-pop-pop” really fast. It was an OK job for a school kid one night a week.
I do Ian.
Hand breaded, pan fried, and served with cream gravy.
Made with real cream and butter.
Doin’ my part to keep the cardiologists in business!
Yes Joe you are right about that. I would rather my children come home and say they are gay, pregnant and addicted to drugs then to hear them say they are Republicans. There is nothing more vile to me.
I do plan to attend. I hope someone brings name tags so we can identify everyone. Or wear a name tag!
It is the kind of lies and garbage spewed above that don’t make a meet up appealing at all.
when, WS, did I ever call you a traitor or anything like that? Your universal hatred is disgusting.
Well, Raptor, I reread the thread and I don’t see where I said that you had called me a traitor. Now Fleet and Nutz regularly call me a traitor, coward, America Hater, etc., but I don’t see where I accused you on this thread.
I still don’t have the time to make these things, but if I did I’d sure want to rep the Lesbian Avengers. I’m down with yiz, kfg.
Wimmin. You got yer fightin’, some fried chicken. More wimmin. Gravy. Hell, life don’t get any better’n that.
I am hereby claiming honorary membership. To the malls, we’re off!!!
kev-Do you really think that “gay” should be on the list with pregnant and addicted?That may say more about you than you wished to convey, you being so open minded and progressive and all.
And Raptor, it is because of the unwarranted personal attacks on me that I won’t be attending the Meet.
I will, however, organize a meet for progressive sometime in the future.
ws-That is not very progressive of you. Think you can get the goverment to pay for it? Or is it every Vision card for himself?
So, Clarkie, you are going to hold a meetup for progressives only? Dat b soundin’ likes segregation to Ian!!!
Viva la raza Blanco!!
Progressives? I think flaming Libs sounds much better.
DA won’t be there because his wittle feewings got hurt when he was rightfully ID’d as a traitor and a coward.
Posted by WS above:
Don’t worry GM, the odds of me spending even ten seconds with you or JM or Raptor or SLVB or Santiago or Fleetwood or KSGolfnut or KS Germ or any of your other friends and haters is absolutely zero.
As I posted, you folks did not have a problem accusing me of capital crimes against my country, but now that the tide has turned against you, you want me to play nice.
So, WS, you not only have a very short memory, you are also a black liar. You claimed in the post immediately above that I accused you of captial crimes against your country.
Where did I do that, you lying jerk??
raptor<——really didn’t belong on WS’s list of goons.:(
hee hee hee flike
But you only find the lipstick variety at the malls.
Now Home Depot, THAT’s the trolling ground.
heheheheh
raptor= famous : )
raptor<—–had a post appear on democratic underground along with CFs post that beat him silly:)
Black liar, Raptor? Is that an attack on my ancestry?
The list of hard-core right-winger that attack me regularly was generic in nature. I was listing the people that I would not want to visit with in a WE Blog Meet.
Not everyone listed has actually suggested that I be hung for treason as Fleet has, however, the right has generally attacked me for being anti-war.
If I have offended you, Raptor, I am sorry. It is hard to keep track of all the bloggers that have actually recommended my execution and those that just generally hate me for speaking my mind.
“Black liar, Raptor? Is that an attack on my ancestry?”
DA, are you a negro?
Golf- Get hip. ws claims to be Black, American Indian, Jewish, Norwegian, Irish and German.No wonder he’s so messed up. He’s conflicted.
He’s a PERFECT liberal – a multi-minority.
Farm Gal,I was elected an Honorary Lesbian Avenger almost a decade ago.Sorry, but I’ve tried the high-falutin city food in this burg. Your chicken & potato salad are far superior. Also, be very afraid of sushi from Hank; it probably came from a bait shop!
I like lesbians myself. We have much in common.
Fleet,Agreed. We like to eat the same stuff.
Yes, like sprouts and bean curd.
Yeah – like tofu, organic veggies…tuna
Dear farm girl,
We’re still on for sushi, either lunch if you can get in town early, or dinner before the meetup. (after I’m going to try and find golfnut for the free drink) I’m off on Thursdays. I have to go to Salina soon but I think I’ll have it out of the way before the 25th.
Hank
PS no bait, we’ll order from the menu.
PPS I’ll bring my baby, you bring yours, on me.
The WE blog meetup, held on January 25, in the year of our Lord, 2007, will come off without a hitch. Their will be much rejoicing and no blood shall be spilled.
Sorry Hank, I dont know if I can make it on the 25th. Business, weather, etc. We’ll see.
We’ll just plan to plan for another day!
We’ve got some pretty good friends in Osbourne and hopefully later on in the year we’ll all make it to your fine dining establishment.
Hank
I’ve decided to make a real effort to attend this meet-up. Here is a question about meet-up etiquette:
Does everyone go by their nickname or real name? I do prefer to remain anonymous given some of the comments people have made about me in the past.
On other blog meetups, I know the regular’s names and they know mine- but it was a limited group of those we trusted.
In a group such as this- I would think remaining with our ID’s would be appropriate.
How silly is that? If you can’t trust people to know your real name, why in the world would you go meet them?
golfnut,
What’s your name, and the name of your company?
Why do you want to know?
cosmos – I would love it if you could attend – I would like to meet you. Hank – hope you are there – bring some burgers! ;^) And stories about “the boy”!
because in a group such as this one, I’m not sure that one of them isn’t going to come on and put forth my real name.
And I don’t want my real name out there, is that hard to understand?
Interesting.
I guess I’m too old to understand why one would want to participate on a BLOG anonymously.
One of the reasons that the first BLOG meetup was organized was to put a face to the various names and to try and make the discourse more civil.
I don’t think liberals are mean, just wrong. I don’t think they are traitors, just confused. After each of the BLOG meetups the debate became more civil and enjoyable.
So…. if you are afraid to come under your own name… fine. what a way to live your life.
Hank
Even more reason not to attend. I would feel silly addressing people as “Pee” and “Cosmos”.
I feel the same way Hank, I don’t feel conservatives are mean, just wrong. I don’t think cosevatives are traitors, just confused.Sorry I won’t be at this one, I enjoy putting the names with the faces, and everyone is so much nicer in person, there’s something about the autonomy of sitting behind a computer screen that can bring out the worst in all of us.
Hank, there are plenty of people in the world who wish to do others harm. In anyway possible.It’s not silly for anyone to wish to remain anonymous when dealing with the internet.
Testicles, you could always call me mama if you like.
Or you could also call me Cindy since you’re partial to calling me that too- if it makes you feel better.
golfnuts,
Because you said it was “silly” not to “trust people to know your real name”.
Ben,
Sorry, I’d like to attend, and meet you, but can’t.
Dear Hank,
Mind if I modify your statement?”I don’t think people like Hank are mean, just wrong. I don’t think they are traitors, just confused.”
Now… was that “civil and enjoyable”?
I honestly don’t think Libs are traitors, either. Traitor is too harsh of a word. Dead wrong to the point that it hurts our country, I do believe. Cannot be trusted to defend this country, I do believe. Traitors, no. Though it is fun to watch ws melt down.
I’m just curious, who do you imagine meeting when you meet me?
It’s kindof funny to think about what you expect from a person and what you get.
“Hank, there are plenty of people in the world who wish to do others harm.”
Yea, I know. Avoid them, confront them, but don’t hide behind a phoney name and antagonize them.
Come to the meet up, we’ll treat you like a lady. The bad guys aren’t on the BLOG!
Hank
Dear cosmos,
I’m confused and wrong more than I care to admit. But not about liberals! You can’t help make a general statement personal, can you?
Hank
Unfortunately, as proven here by the ‘trolls’ there is truth to what p-mom says.
Using your real name in this forum is not courageous or credible. It is unbelievably stupid! Witness the activities of the nic stealing trolls. “J R” can be stolen by anyone and made to say anything. And whatever whoever “J R” says, it lasts forever on the internet. I’d not like such characters to be able to do so with my real name! Anonymity in the face of that threat is no vice. It’s self preservation.
And not only that but employers are googling your names now when you apply for jobs. The only thing they’d have to do is type in my name if someone decided to put it out there and voila- my boss can now see everything I believe, and could choose to use it against me.
Well Junior,
I think your paranoia explains more of your character than it does the “nic stealing trolls”.
Care to explain how your appearances at the various meetups have harmed you?
Hank
I think everybody should post up their full real names. Heck, if I can post my beliefs under my real name then others should be willing to do so. :)
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
Dear Hank,
“You can’t help make a general statement personal, can you?”
Only because I don’t know your ideology. Conservative? Or a libertarian, which I very vaguely remember you posted?
Ok so I just googled “Ian Santiago”, and gee, there are blogs he has written on all over the nation, and interestingly, so have other bloggers from here.
Same ID’s, same Emails.
Why?
The nic is J R. Try remembering it. It’s only two letters. Or I could descend to your level and play games with your name Hank.
Where did I say that my appearance at a meetup had harmed me? I didn’t. I helped organize the biggest meet up so far.
I also did not loudly shout out my full real name.
That may be ok with a generic name like Hank Price.There’s some anonymity in that. Not your fault or anything you planned. But true.MY last name is extremely rare. A search on my first and last or middle and last name gets hits for one person. ME. Since dad died there are 5 people in Wichita with my last name. My mom, son, brother, and sister in law.
And I value my name more than to let it be hijacked and used by some kook.
PMOM,
I thought about what you posted and you do have point. I own my own business so I don’t have to worry about any flak from my boss, that may not be true for others. :)
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
I don’t care what other’s think about what I believe, including my boss. I’ll gladly share any of my opinions with anyone who asks. I’ve never had any serious problems when I’ve had an editorial published with my name and city I live in.
JR, last time I checked, my husband and I are the only Caruso in the phone book.
Yes, well I know people who have been really stalked, and who got hate letters signed by God.
And no I’m not kidding.
J R,
“That may be ok with a generic name like Hank Price.There’s some anonymity in that.”
Not if someone knows he posts here, and adds something like – kansas.com/weblog – at Google.
And there’s the troll problem, if you don’t use TypeKey.
I don’t think Ian posts under his own name.
And Mary, I was at an interview once, where the receptionist asked me a whole bunch of personal questions before the interview about my religion and beliefs….I was very pc about it, but apparently I didn’t answer them up to par. That’s an interesting way to ask the questions your boss can’t ask in an interview huh?
You don’t even have to add that cosmos, try it out.
Just type in his name, in quotations.
You are wrong, pmom, my name and email addy are very real, I do disguise my real IP addy though.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
cosmos – Hank is conservative/libertarian from what I have seen. I would also say he is straight with us – I respect him for that (even though he is wrong 90% of the time! ;^)). The only thing I would fear from him is “death by hamburger” – not a major problem IMO.
There are others here – sadly from both sides – who are less staright-forward. That does constitute a problem. However, I dount that they would come to a meetup.
Hank put together the original one out at Afton – it was a lot of fun. Good food and good discussion.
Well
My email has been live more than 99% of the time I have been posting here.
So I am hardly anonymous.
If anyone I trusted wanted to know my real name I would have no problem with it. I really don’t see how it matters one way or the other. I have never been shy about my own opinions. Adding my name to them does nothing to strengthen or diminish them.
I just would not want opinions I do NOT have or words I do not write attributed to me. Certainly others have written things here ABOUT me that I would not want attached to my real name.
Isn’t that right Hank?
The internet is forever.
Cos,Read again. I said it was silly to meet people if you can’t trust them enough to know your real name.
I’m not going. Capice?
This blog gets too hot for real names. Sharp sticks, etc., no thanks. pmom’s calling golfnut David. Too scary.
So I guess our meeting in Salina is off too Testicles?
And I only know his name from what someone else said enema.
Will I have to call you “mama” at our meeting?
OH and at the time, he denied that was his first name too.
It wasn’t till he gave up his own initials that I called him out and he finally fessed up.
I’m not afraid to introduce myself by real name to those I choose to meet. I’ll even give you a business card.
Pick a name and that’s who I’ll be.
There are only about 4 people on this board who know my real name. If I feel really comfortable with you Testicles, I’ll tell you my real name.
By the way, Colt from the SJ board, the man is about 40 years older than I am, and he does still call me mama in person..lol.
Even though he does know my real name too.
Now I have to think of how funny that sounds to someone passing by.
I wouldn’t have extended the olive branch if I didn’t already feel comfortable.
Ah but I’ve never been deceitful either.
Well, at least that you know of. But I haven’t. Everything I’ve said about me is dead on truth.
Ditto.
Hey PMom, hiya
nothing, just felt like saying it. :)
I don’t care if people know my name and nothing I’ve said here do I care if others know. If I don’t get some job because they don’t like politics or beliefs then so be it. Maybe it’s my age but I really don’t care what others think of me. Besides it’s pretty easy to spot the trolls on this blog. You are really not very good.So if you don’t want to share your name, don’t. But if you do so be it.Actually, JR and Pmom I’d really like to meet you. Even Ian.
I’d like to meet you too Brenda, but not Ian. I have no desire to meet someone like him.
golfnuts,
You’re not going, BUT you invited everyone to join (”meet”) you.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/01/mark_your_calen.html#comment-27544253“You’re all welcome to come join us for a drink at the bar after the meeting. My treat.”
Since you’re not “silly”, you WILL tell everyone your real name when they join (”meet”) you.
My point: If you don’t 100% trust them not to post your name, you might as well post it yourself, now.
Pmom,Haven’t you heard the saying, “keep your friends close and your enemies closer?”There are bigots of all kinds and at least we know where he stands. It’s those that hide that are more dangerous. I worked for a company once and I discovered how bigoted the corporate folks were when I overheard the regional manager and the VP talking and the VP informed her that there was too much “color” in the front office and he didn’t want to see that when he came back. Being who I am, I confronted my manager about what that meant. She of course denied it was a racist remark. I found another job and was gone before the VP came back. I couldn’t work for people like that.
I’d have told the front desk people right before you walked out the door what the boss had said too.
Yeah oh and in another interview with a temp agency employer, the guy interviewing me starts going off about how he hated a particular school because of all the east coast blacks that were shipped in…his words not mine.
Have you ever been so taken aback during an interview where you just can only stare blankly back at the guy interviewing you?
Yeah, then the guy says something about being ‘indian givers’….
I didn’t perform well on that interview….lol, and I was not exactly trying to impress him at all after that. I kindof wondered if it was some sort of test!
Cosmos,Oh simple one…Maybe you haven’t been around the ol’ internet block too many times.If anyone actually shows up at the Scotch (no one will), how would he/she find me?
I prefer anonymity unless it’s of MY choosing.
pmom’s story sounds like a story read in Cosmos or People mag or something. Is “Indian giver” offensive?
Whoa!
I was planning to show up! You said you’ld be at the bar, you’re wife would be there, and I can find you!
Tell me now it was a joke and I’ll find you later.
Hank
A shot of Jack Daniels with a beer chaser is all I can have, more than two drinks and they’ll make me go back to the meetings.
Hank
Come on, Hank, Golfnut would have to clear those cobwebs out of his wallet to buy us a round. ;)
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Oh well Ian,
I can afford to buy my own, I wouldn’t stand around looking stupid or anything.
However, I wouldn’t be afraid to yell out “IS GOLFNUTZ HERE?”
Hank
golfnuts,
Nope. I assumed last Thursday your http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/01/mark_your_calen.html#comment-27544253 was bogus. I just wanted you to publicly admit that you LIED.
Thank you very much.
Hank,You’re always welcome. I’d gladly extend the offer to you.
Cosmos,Are you this simple-minded and gullible in real life?
golfnuts,
Are you saying that I was “simple-minded and gullible” for assuming last week that your post was bogus?
Haven’t you refused, in previous posts, to name your business? That is someone who obviously “prefer[s] anonymity”. And for obvious reasons, considering your posts.
Enema, and I do mean that wholeheartedly tonight- yes, indian giver is offensive.
Are you and Ian brothers?
I haven’t seen cosmos’s reply to that yet Goofnut.
Seems he has ya cold.
Now I don’t drink with the enemy.
I don’t like you.
But in welching on your earlier invite? You demonstrate conclusively your lack of character.
political mom<—– politically correct mom!
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Cosmos is a black/white contrarian. There is no compromise for him in life, ideas, philosophy or opinion.
Other can have their own opinion just as long as it is Cosmos’s opinion. :)
Nah, I’d never “welch” on an invitation or offer. I’ll make this deal – if you show up at the Scotch while I’m having dinner on the night of the 25th and ask Sonny (the maitre de) for “KSGolfnut” – he’ll make sure you get to the bar for a drink on me. He’ll let me know you’re there. And, if I decide you’re worthy, I’ll come over and introduce myself.
Testicles what makes you think that your wife wants to share the anniversary night with a bunch of folks none of you know?
Did you even tell her about these plans of yours?
And why do YOU get to dictate the terms of a meetup anyway?
Here is how I picture Testicles. Karl Rovish with more dark hair, and thinner.
Either that, or he looks like Keith Richards.
Hey JM the goofnut owes you a drink too.
Cosmos only held the goofnut to his words.
Sorry, can’t drink. That TB medicine I took in Thailand for eighteen months screwed up my liver bad. Made me a tea sipper not by choice. :)
WOW Hank!
Goofnut wants to decide if you are worthy before he will grant you the benificence of meeting him!
You gonna jump through THAT hoop?
I’ve never been in that den of snobbery and overpriced food that is the Scotch.
I may have to show up just to watch this!
KSGolfnut: expanding the frontiers of behavior of a classless boor.
I imagine Enema looks like a skinny little weasle with blonde hair, like a 5lb weight would kick his ass. The little yappy dog that trots alongside the big bulldog.
I picture Steven Davis looks like a computer guy, but not really geekish. Shorter, stout but not fat, and he wears oxford shirts, no tie.
Hank Price looks like my grandfather, white hair, square face, glasses, hard eyes, doesn’t like to laugh, white as the day is long. JM almost identical except more of a loner.
JR I think is really tall, proportionate, short hair, sandy blonde. He has a friendly face.
I think Mary looks like a professional lady, short hair, brown, bobbed, short. Kindof Sally fieldish.
That’s how I picture you guys on here. LOL I am terrible at doing this though, I can tell you that right now, but that’s who I see when I imagine all of you.
Political Mom! You been peeking in my window! :)
Golfnut is 6′2, 220 lbs, 40, full head of hair, Robert Redfordish good looks.
And yes, I’ve shared my plan with MrsGolfnut. She’s got a couple of friends stopping by also.
golfnuts,
“Nah, I’d never “welch” on an invitation or offer”
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/01/mark_your_calen.html#comment-27544253“You’re *ALL* welcome to come join us for a drink…”
JM,
“Other can have their own opinion just as long as it is Cosmos’s opinion. :)”
Scientists should be able to back up their opinions with facts.
For example, your opinion that Scripps did not properly calibrate their CO2 instruments was false — the calibration they had used was later slightly revised.
Hey where has Kia run off to? I know he’d never be able to fly here to come to our shindig…but he’s been MIA a few days.
Cosmos,you all ARE welcome. C’mon by.
Too funny
Trying better to encapsulate the goofnut, I looked up synonyms for “boor”
A perfect fit!
“Main Entry:††boorPart of Speech:††nounDefinition:††clodSynonyms:††barbarian, bear, boob*, brute, buffoon, bumpkin, cad, chuff, churl, clodhopper, clown, countryman, hayseed, hick, hobnail, lout, lubber, lumpkin, mucker, oaf, peasant, philistine, rube*, rustic, swain, vulgarian, yokelAntonyms:††gentleman, intellectual, smoothyNotes:††a boar is a male pig; a boor is a person with rude, clumsy manners and little refinement; a bore is one that is wearingly dull, repetitive, or tedious”
Hey political mom?
I have met SOME of the folks you described.You NAILED Hank Price. Except the hair part. Both times I saw him, he was wearing a hat. So I don’t know about that.
Steven? I haven’t seen him in nearly a year. He aint short. He was kinda quiet.
Mary? Blonde hair. The rest of the description? Close.
Mary I knew at the first meet up right off.
And me? Well…..
It would be rude to comment on myself. I’m sure someone else will.
There is old Cosmos broken record..
your opinion that Scripps…
your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…your opinion that Scripps…
boring huh?
And read the first two words of that phrase Cosmos.
“your opinion”
My assessment of you holds true in that no one can have an opinion unless it is Cosmos’s opinion.
JR send me a pic of you, I wanna see since you won’t come to the meeting. I’ll show you mine if you show me yours LOL LOL.
(no, no dirty pics I was just joking on that part).
JM,
“My” opinion is based on,’*REVISION* of the *INTERNATIONAL* calibration scale for CO2-in-air: WMO-X2005.’http://www.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccgg/co2experts/abstracts/tans_p_19.pdf
“Your” expert, and career-supported opinion is based on what…?
“I picture Steven Davis looks like a computer guy, but not really geekish. Shorter, stout but not fat, and he wears oxford shirts, no tie.”
Actually, I aspire to be a geek or a dweb (just kidding). I am not short. Played H.S. basketball many years ago.
I refuse to wear ties, except at funerals. I have never worn an oxford shirt that I can recall. I did wear argyle sweaters in college until people started asking me if I read Esquire magazine and voted Republican. I have seldom done the first and less often did the latter.
:P see how wrong I am.
Hey can we bump this thread back to the beginning?
“Hank Price looks like my grandfather, white hair, square face, glasses, hard eyes, doesn’t like to laugh, white as the day is long.”
Almost an exact description of me! Except, I might only be old enough to be your father. And I’m actually almost bald although what hair I have is gray. And then the part about not liking to laugh, I enjoy life and laugh a lot. Then there is the comment about my eyes, they are soft with laugh lines. And what did you mean by white? I am caucasion, and pretty white except in the spring, summer and fall. I ride horses a lot, drive horses a lot, train sheep dogs for myself and several friends. I spend a lot of time outside and usually spend an average of two weeks each year in the Carribean. Not real tan, but not white.
Other than the noted exceptions, you have me described exactly!
Hank
Obviously Political Mom doesn’t know you very well dad.
Just about every momnet of my life with you has been one of laughter of some sort…
minus the times I have not been very obedient :)
I agree, I’ve never seen Hank without a smile on his face, he loves to laugh…as for me, my hair is no longer blonde, but I do keep it sort of short, and I’m not petite and cute like Sally Field, either :(
After reading through these posts, another to add to the “attending” column is JWink. Another “likely attending” may be Proudman – the libertarian. But, if he has to ask for directions on how to get the Eagle building, he might not make it. (joke – admittedly a pathetic one)
I also believe that Fleetwood is not attending. That will disappoint his many fans…
Mary is right that Sally Field is cute. She will play Abby’s mother on ER sometimes and though she is getting up there in years she has retained a certain “cuteness” – some people are just lucky that way, I guess.
Mary, despite what she says, has an attractive appearance. You can just tell she is a good person, somehow. Sorry you can’t make it, Mary, hope you have a good vacation.
Mary – you and Brenda are two I’d like to meet for some ‘off-blog’ issue discussions.
Thanks Steven, I don’t think of myself as “attractive” anymore, I feel like I’m turning into this old, fat grandma!I’d love to get together, Ben…Brenda would love it, too. Maybe when I get back in Feb. we can work it out…anybody else want to come?
Works for me Mary.
The description of Hank sounds right – including I could see him ‘lowering the boom’ on ‘the boy’!
;^)
Mary is not a fat grandma. She is very attractive, smart, and “evolved.” We always have so much fun when we are together.
Ben, I’d like to meet you too. Name the time and place.
I’m going to try and go to the meet-up so I can put names and faces together. I will be back in town that evening.
I am glad this thread got current again.
I am disappointed that the editors are not more communicative. Your meet up is a week away and you tell us nothing.
Steven should not be tallying attendance. You editors should be doing that. And who among you will be there? And are kids welcome? And hey how about mentioning it on the other threads to get out the word?
Tracy and KFG MIGHT come. They have a long drive. Be more encouraging!
Oh and by way of a preventative strike?
Can it Hank.
Hey Mary,
When ya leaving? Dave going too? Palau? No wading, snorkling or scuba only, stonefish!
Hank
When the meetup starts, I’ll be just five hours away from my wedding :)Golf–you’re a KU fan? That explains a lot.GO CATS!
I’m leaving Friday, Hank. It better be the best diving ever, because I’m flying for 22 hours just to get there!!