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	<title>Comments on: Rumsfeld&#8217;s &#8216;final throes&#8217; as defense secretary</title>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105800</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If she had an independent thought, she would not be where she is - under George W. Bush at all times.&quot;

I&#039;m assuming you mean figuratively &quot;under George W. Bush...&quot;, right? ;)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If she had an independent thought, she would not be where she is &#8211; under George W. Bush at all times.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming you mean figuratively &#8220;under George W. Bush&#8230;&#8221;, right? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: sunny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105799</link>
		<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But smart employers respect employees that will tell them the truth and not just &#039;yes men&#039;.  So what does that say about George W. Bush?  Colin Powell tried to tell him and got his ass kicked out.

I know why Condi does what she does, I just have to wonder about the intelligence of her &#039;employer&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But smart employers respect employees that will tell them the truth and not just &#8216;yes men&#8217;.  So what does that say about George W. Bush?  Colin Powell tried to tell him and got his ass kicked out.</p>
<p>I know why Condi does what she does, I just have to wonder about the intelligence of her &#8216;employer&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105798</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea Joe, he was great at personifying Bush&#039;s FAILURES!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea Joe, he was great at personifying Bush&#8217;s FAILURES!</p>
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		<title>By: Spyder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105797</link>
		<dc:creator>Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the agreement, Tracy.I find your sense of humor...refreshing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the agreement, Tracy.I find your sense of humor&#8230;refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: Spyder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105796</link>
		<dc:creator>Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sunny, i have people who work for me. When they&#039;re on my time, I expect them to do my bidding. Working for George Bush may seem incomprehensible to you or me, but it doesn&#039;t indicate independent thought or lack of it. IMHO, Condi has risen above a lot of hurdles to get where she is today, and she has my respect for it. Do I agree with her? No. But I find reason to respect a lot of people I may not like personally or agree with.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sunny, i have people who work for me. When they&#8217;re on my time, I expect them to do my bidding. Working for George Bush may seem incomprehensible to you or me, but it doesn&#8217;t indicate independent thought or lack of it. IMHO, Condi has risen above a lot of hurdles to get where she is today, and she has my respect for it. Do I agree with her? No. But I find reason to respect a lot of people I may not like personally or agree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiore Buccieri</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105795</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiore Buccieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumsfeld was his usual arrogant self, right to the last. In a way, he was a perfect fit with Mr. &quot;I&#039;m the Emperor-President!&quot; Bush.

As to Cal Thomas, he never met a Conservative he thought was wrong, and if he had his way Rum-Dumb would still be in power.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumsfeld was his usual arrogant self, right to the last. In a way, he was a perfect fit with Mr. &#8220;I&#8217;m the Emperor-President!&#8221; Bush.</p>
<p>As to Cal Thomas, he never met a Conservative he thought was wrong, and if he had his way Rum-Dumb would still be in power.</p>
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		<title>By: sunny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105794</link>
		<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Condi Rice is only doing the bidding of George W. Bush and that is her only thought and goal.  If she had an independent thought, she would not be where she is - under George W. Bush at all times.  She likes it there obviously.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condi Rice is only doing the bidding of George W. Bush and that is her only thought and goal.  If she had an independent thought, she would not be where she is &#8211; under George W. Bush at all times.  She likes it there obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105793</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Spidie.That remark was more of an indictment of Bush.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Spidie.That remark was more of an indictment of Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Spyder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105792</link>
		<dc:creator>Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: I haven&#039;t seen any instance where the Bush administration has demonstrated respect for abstract or independent thought.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: I haven&#8217;t seen any instance where the Bush administration has demonstrated respect for abstract or independent thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Spyder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105791</link>
		<dc:creator>Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed Tracy. I hope you&#039;ll agree that a person doesn&#039;t rise to Condi&#039;s level without being capable of &quot;abstract thought&quot;. Like it or not, Condi is part of a team. In this particular case, being a team player means carrying the team banner.Condi may be one of the enemy, but she&#039;s not stupid or incompetent. While I dislike the team she&#039;s on, she has my respect for her accomplishments and ability.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Tracy. I hope you&#8217;ll agree that a person doesn&#8217;t rise to Condi&#8217;s level without being capable of &#8220;abstract thought&#8221;. Like it or not, Condi is part of a team. In this particular case, being a team player means carrying the team banner.Condi may be one of the enemy, but she&#8217;s not stupid or incompetent. While I dislike the team she&#8217;s on, she has my respect for her accomplishments and ability.</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105790</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spyder,I would want people who are at least capable of abstract thought!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spyder,I would want people who are at least capable of abstract thought!</p>
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		<title>By: delores</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105789</link>
		<dc:creator>delores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved watching Mr. Rumsfeld testify before Congress.  He was the only person who could ask himself the questions and than answer them without taking a breath. What do they call a person who can do that? I will miss you too, Rummy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved watching Mr. Rumsfeld testify before Congress.  He was the only person who could ask himself the questions and than answer them without taking a breath. What do they call a person who can do that? I will miss you too, Rummy.</p>
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		<title>By: Spyder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105788</link>
		<dc:creator>Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too bad about Powell. He&#039;s a great man, but he fell in with the wrong crowd.Give Condi credit. She works for Bush and she&#039;s been a loyal trooper. What kind of people would you want working for you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad about Powell. He&#8217;s a great man, but he fell in with the wrong crowd.Give Condi credit. She works for Bush and she&#8217;s been a loyal trooper. What kind of people would you want working for you?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105787</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Secretary of Dense.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Secretary of Dense.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Williams</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105786</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was a great Secretary of Defense. I&#039;ll miss him!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was a great Secretary of Defense. I&#8217;ll miss him!</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105785</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not content with the civil war we created in Iraq, Condi now directs her enegy to supporting Abbas with millions to beef up his military, in order to escalate the tensions and killings between the democratically elected Hammas, and Abbas (our guy).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not content with the civil war we created in Iraq, Condi now directs her enegy to supporting Abbas with millions to beef up his military, in order to escalate the tensions and killings between the democratically elected Hammas, and Abbas (our guy).</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105784</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More news tonight that the House of Saud is threatening to support the Summis in the Iraq civil war.  Saud is the dource of the Wahabi who spawned alQuada and Osama bin Ladin.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More news tonight that the House of Saud is threatening to support the Summis in the Iraq civil war.  Saud is the dource of the Wahabi who spawned alQuada and Osama bin Ladin.</p>
<p>MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105783</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up, Ben.

Gotta tivo that one.

Will he continue to shill for Bush even though they repaid his performance at the UN with a swift kick in the ass, or will some of Powell the decent human being re-emerge after getting absorbed by The Borg?

I&#039;m thinking the &quot;house negro&quot; stays a &quot;house negro,&quot; but we&#039;ll see . . .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up, Ben.</p>
<p>Gotta tivo that one.</p>
<p>Will he continue to shill for Bush even though they repaid his performance at the UN with a swift kick in the ass, or will some of Powell the decent human being re-emerge after getting absorbed by The Borg?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking the &#8220;house negro&#8221; stays a &#8220;house negro,&#8221; but we&#8217;ll see . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105782</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin Powell will be on Face the Nation Sunday.  Could be interesting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin Powell will be on Face the Nation Sunday.  Could be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105781</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Condi Rice will do to her possible future the same thing that Colin Powell did - self-destruct.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Condi Rice will do to her possible future the same thing that Colin Powell did &#8211; self-destruct.</p>
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		<title>By: sunny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105780</link>
		<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly when has Condi Rice ever said anything that was not directly from George W. Bush&#039;s mouth?  Condi will never cross GWB.  She will continue to flap her gums and get into everyone&#039;s face and keep repeating the same old tired crap.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly when has Condi Rice ever said anything that was not directly from George W. Bush&#8217;s mouth?  Condi will never cross GWB.  She will continue to flap her gums and get into everyone&#8217;s face and keep repeating the same old tired crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105779</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Middle East is being rearranged&quot;

Civil War in Iraq

Possible Civil War in Lebanon

Increased influence by Syria and Iran

Possible Saudi/Wahabi/alQuada involvement in Iraq

Taliban resurgence in Afghanistan and Pakistan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Middle East is being rearranged&#8221;</p>
<p>Civil War in Iraq</p>
<p>Possible Civil War in Lebanon</p>
<p>Increased influence by Syria and Iran</p>
<p>Possible Saudi/Wahabi/alQuada involvement in Iraq</p>
<p>Taliban resurgence in Afghanistan and Pakistan</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105778</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>;^) rm ...

Steven ...

&quot;Rice&#039;s remarks indicated that, despite a maelstrom of criticism of Bush&#039;s policies by outside experts and Democrats, the administration&#039;s extensive review of policy in Iraq and the region will not yield major changes in its approach. Rice said that Bush could be &quot;quite expansive&quot; in terms of a policy review and that the new plan would be a &quot;departure.&quot; But the president will not radically change any of his long-term goals or commitment to Iraq, she said.

Indeed, Rice argued that the Middle East is being rearranged in ways that provide the United States with new opportunities, what she repeatedly called a &quot;new strategic context.&quot;&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/12/15/wp-rice-rejects-overture-to-iran-syria/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.msn.com%2Fid%2F16213163%2F&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/12/15/wp-rice-rejects-overture-to-iran-syria/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.msn.com%2Fid%2F16213163%2F&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>;^) rm &#8230;</p>
<p>Steven &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Rice&#8217;s remarks indicated that, despite a maelstrom of criticism of Bush&#8217;s policies by outside experts and Democrats, the administration&#8217;s extensive review of policy in Iraq and the region will not yield major changes in its approach. Rice said that Bush could be &#8220;quite expansive&#8221; in terms of a policy review and that the new plan would be a &#8220;departure.&#8221; But the president will not radically change any of his long-term goals or commitment to Iraq, she said.</p>
<p>Indeed, Rice argued that the Middle East is being rearranged in ways that provide the United States with new opportunities, what she repeatedly called a &#8220;new strategic context.&#8221;"</p>
<p><a href="http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/12/15/wp-rice-rejects-overture-to-iran-syria/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.msn.com%2Fid%2F16213163%2F" rel="nofollow">http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/12/15/wp-rice-rejects-overture-to-iran-syria/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.msn.com%2Fid%2F16213163%2F</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105777</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I notice today that Condi Rice is saying that we will mostly continue to stay the failed course.&quot;

I heard on NPR that she is saying no direct talks with Syria or Iran.  Is there more to it than that?

I read a pretty good article in Time this week that many, but none more than this administration, say they are not going to do something in terms of a foreign policy change as they are preparing to make the change they are denying.  I wonder if we are setting up some 3rd party proxie to do the talking with Iran and Syria for us.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I notice today that Condi Rice is saying that we will mostly continue to stay the failed course.&#8221;</p>
<p>I heard on NPR that she is saying no direct talks with Syria or Iran.  Is there more to it than that?</p>
<p>I read a pretty good article in Time this week that many, but none more than this administration, say they are not going to do something in terms of a foreign policy change as they are preparing to make the change they are denying.  I wonder if we are setting up some 3rd party proxie to do the talking with Iran and Syria for us.</p>
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		<title>By: rm6046</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/rumsfelds_final/#comment-105776</link>
		<dc:creator>rm6046</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did that just for you, Ben. :)  Seriously, my friend!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did that just for you, Ben. :)  Seriously, my friend!</p>
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