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- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted Dec. 30, 2006 at 1:05 a.m.
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Looks like we won’t have Saddam around to demonize anymore.
Seriously, I have a bad feeling about this.
It’ll be OK XXX, seriously.
Hank
Hey Hank, Merry belated Christmas and Happy New Year!
My concern is that we’ve made a martyr of Saddam. Just one more reason for the bad guys to rally.
So what’s your take? Will the execution cause an increase in violence?
Ah hell buddy, I don’t know. I just think it’s a good thing. About 80% of the Iraqis wanted him dead and I think it kills hope for the other 20%.
After a day or two his ugly face will be forgotten. Maybe, hopefully.
Hank
Yes, but that 20% sure seem to be causing us a world of trouble.
I got an e-mail from the boy last week. Any idea when he’s coming home?
He should be stateside in March or April, gets out in July. Unless, he pulls a double, he’s thinking about staying there for another tour.
(Mama might go over and get him!)
Hank
Hey Hank long time no see your name! Belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.In a way it is how we handle Saddam’s death, when the sons were killed it was not the fact that we killed them that caused a great upheaval. It was that their bodies were displayed in a mocking way that was the rallying cry to the Islamic. As a whole it was seen as a affront to the Moslems, most could not have cared less that they died. Even they saw them as bad men, but to the average Moslem it put us on the same level as the Terrorists with their videos of beheading prisoners.
There are actually very few Saddam supporter in Iraq that are fighting, most are either fighting in the believe they are fighting for the Islamic faith. Or see themselves as patriots fighting to drive out the foreign invaders. Either way in and of its self the execution of Saddam makes no real difference. Only if we display his body like a trophy will it be a reason for them to seek revenge. And then not for his death but because once again it is offensive to them. Then he will be a martyr for their cause and not just a bad man that got what was coming to him.
Creationist at it again?
Reports say that due to pressure from the Bush Administration officials, the National Park Service is not permitted to give an official age for the Grand Canyon.
Also in a series of recent decisions, the National Park Service has approved the display of religious symbols and Bible verses, as well as the sale of creationist books giving a biblical explanation for the Grand Canyon and other natural wonders.
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
Pelosi preparing new shackles for free speech
WASHINGTON – Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has cooked up with Public Citizen’s Joan Claybrook a “lobbying reform” that actually protects rich special interests and activists millionaires while clamping new shackles on citizens’ First Amendment rights to petition Congress and speak their minds.
http://www.examiner.com/a-464413~Mark_Tapscott__Pelosi_preparing_new_shackles_for_free_speech.html
Yeah Saddam’s DEAD.
Take THAT AlQueda!
Unfortunately now we’ll never know what he did with those weapons of mass destruction.
As for Saddam being dead… will this have an effect on the violence in Iraq? Probably not. Most of the attacks are being carried out by foreigners who didnt give a rip about Saddam anyway.
Joan Claybrook is a dangerous moron. Her stint as head of NHTSA was without a doubt the darkest period in that agency’s history.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!
Er, what? What was that Senators Liebermann and McCain? Send more troops there?
Well, OK, if the ruling junta say we must. Barkeep, one more round of $400 billion in national debt, body bags and arificial limbs please.
It will make the world a better place, ya know.
Delores thanks for that link. Fundies are dangerous.
Heckler I’ll watch for that, I don’t know enough about it yet, but I’ll learn. I don’t like any restrictions on free speech, even if it comes from a liberal.
Wanna watch somebody who is a worse public speaker than Bush?
http://www.thepoliticalpitbull.com/2006/08/video_the_world_according_to_n.php
How many lies did she tell? ;)
This is the Democrat’s leader. The loyal left can keep her. It’s on you!
Thanks so much for the link Joe.
God Bless Nancy. I’ll take Nancy over Hastert anyday.
GWB – “Oh, no, we’re not going to have any casualties.” — discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson, as quoted by Robertson.
He’s your man, Joe!
sorry to burst your bubble, but Ossama Bin Forgotten is Al Queida not Saddam
and lest you forget, we built up saddams power and sold him the stuff he used on the Kurds
Our hands are very dirty
George W Bush – “People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in’s house and say I love you.” —Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002
Well, have you folks helped out with the war effort?
Neo’s?
Have you visited any shut-ins lately?
Didn’t think so…..
Santiago,Your inflammatory bombs would hit much harder if you sourced your quotes. How does one know that you are not just making that kinda stuff up for attention?
Would Santiasbestos lie? You are truly a Doubting Thomas.
(heavy sarcasm, followed by deep laughter)
What is a shut-in house?
Ask George – it was his quote.
Found it! A shut-in is a person unwilling or unable to leave his home, often due to disability, or a mental disease.
What’s wrong with President Bush asking people to care?
I forgot! People who are mentally ill don’t vote, so Democrats don’t care about them.
PLENTY of mentally ill people vote.
Anyone who isn’t independently wealthy and votes for Republicans is insane!
Oh and WS? ASBESTOS does not= ASBESTOS.
Ian is …….Ian.
He is the great puzzle. The intelligent racist.
ASBESTOS is just a kook.
That last should read “ASBESTOS does not = Ian”.
Yer right, J R, but truth doesn’t matter to Asbestos or Santiago or Golf Nutz, for that matter.
Why bother with the truth when you can make (insert) up?
And Joe, how is saying “I love you” to a shut-in going to win the War on Terra?
The Metropolitans of New York will win the world series of baseball in the year 2007.
Therw will be global economic collapse in the period 2008-2009. This will lead to civil war in Germany and the overthrow of democratic government by military dictatorship. Soon all of Europe will be run by military dictatorship and this will unleash the elemental forces of chaos, worldwide.
Please oh please powers that be at the Wichita Eagle, find a different format for your site! I’m so weary of typing in those damn anti-spam letters.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0923/dailyUpdate.html
The ‘myth’ of Iraq’s foreign fightersReport by US think tank says only ‘4 to 10′ percent of insurgents are foreigners.
By Tom Regan | csmonitor.com
The US and Iraqi governments have vastly overstated the number of foreign fighters in Iraq, and most of them don’t come from Saudi Arabia, according to a new report from the Washington-based Center for Strategic International Studies (CSIS). According to a piece in The Guardian, this means the US and Iraq ” feed the myth” that foreign fighters are the backbone of the insurgency. While the foreign fighters may stoke the insurgency flames, they make up only about 4 to 10 percent of the estimated 30,000 insurgents.The CSIS study also disputes media reports that Saudis are the largest group of foreign fighters. CSIS says “Algerians are the largest group (20 percent), followed by Syrians (18 percent), Yemenis (17 percent), Sudanese (15 percent), Egyptians (13 percent), Saudis (12 percent) and those from other states (5 percent).” CSIS gathered the information for its study from intelligence sources in the Gulf region.
The CSIS report says: “The vast majority of Saudi militants who have entered Iraq were not terrorist sympathizers before the war; and were radicalized almost exclusively by the coalition invasion.”The average age of the Saudis was 17-25 and they were generally middle-class with jobs, though they usually had connections with the most prominent conservative tribes. “Most of the Saudi militants were motivated by revulsion at the idea of an Arab land being occupied by a non-Arab country. These feelings are intensified by the images of the occupation they see on television and the Internet … the catalyst most often cited [in interrogations] is Abu Ghraib, though images from Guant?namo Bay also feed into the pathology.”
Ian, you gonna source that quote or would you rather run it again and attribute it to a Founding Father this time?