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Following up on Joe William’s discussion under “Recount Should Reassure Voters”, the Johnson Cty. Kansas House race that the Kansas Repub. Party has filed a lawsuit over involves the victory in District 16 by Democrat Gene Rardin. His victory was certified by the Secretary of State on November 29th, yet the Republicans continue to refuse to acknowledge the verdict of the people.
As for Bill Gale and HAVA, tell me why not one school was retained by Bill Gale as a voting site? You can’t seriously believe the every school that had been used in the past was disqualified because of lack of ADA compliance? And I have spoken to Gale about his decision.
MISCELLANEOUS MUSINGS BY JWINK.
Our two new Sedgwick county commissioners, Gwen Welsheimer and Kelly Parks, will be sworn into office on Saturday, January 7th, I believe in the jury room. I will be there to cheer them on. Lets hope this leads to a great improvement in our county government even though we still have three hangovers on the commission, Tim Norton, Tom Winters and David Unruh.
****************************Our Wichita city council election will be held soon. The primary election will be on February 27th and general election on April 3rd. The mayor’s position now held by Carlos Mayans and three city council positions are up for vote — the positions now held by Gray, Schlapp and Martz.
Deadline to file for these non-partisan positions offices is January 23rd, I believe at noon.
Pay is huge for these six hour per week jobs … with perks.
*****************************Regarding Phill Klline, I predict that within his present finish up term of two years, he will find a job with a national anti-abortion organization that pays at least $500,000 per year. Phill is a relatively young man on the way promoting his agenda.
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I walked around downtown Wichita yesterday. The number of vacant downtown office buildings is a travesty. Perhaps the mussels from the lake in Winfield will come to our rescue.
kelly……….it should be painfully obvious to all (except the “head in the sand” repugs) that the object of the exercise by Bill Gale is to limit the number of polling places in an covert attempt to disenfranchise voters. They rapture right knows they can get their sheeple to advance vote. Whether or not they admit it, they DO use the pulpit as a political tool. They use their religion as a central focus to distribute voters guides, advance ballots and to provide transportation to polling sites to their kind. Some might call this good political tactics. many of us see it as a clear violation of the establishment clause of the First Amendment and the tax exempt status of churchs.
These people won’t be satisfied until this country has been turned in to a Taliban like “Christian” theocracy.
Long live the Democratic Party, the REAL party of the common man!
Bill Gale needs to be replaced, now.
As for Phill Kline, he truly wants to be the Fuhrer of this new Kansas Theocracy. He is every bit as fanatical and dangerous as Hitler ever was. If you ever had any doubts, look and his “Tiller fiasco” of Thursday and Friday.
I can’t wait to follow the daily news stories in the KC Star chronicling the malfeasance of Kline in Johnson County.
Every one knows the proposed $250,000,000.47 downtown white elephant ice hockey arena will only WORSEN the downtown occupancy situation. In fact, many companies have already moved out anticipating the construction activity crunch and the periodic crunch of parking in the labrynith of dark downtown alleyways between the trash containers.
An outstanding way to to make lemonaid from the lemon downtown arena proposal is to sell the arena “footprint” to Wal-Mart or Target for a giant-size, mega Wal-Mart super store. This would provide traffic 24 hours a day, seven days a week, thus bringing back retail to downtown Wichita.
SO, NOW THAT THE PEOPLE OF WICHITA HAVE BEEN EDUCATED ON THE DOWNSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN ARENA PROPOSAL — LETS VOTE AGAIN!
And either remodel the Kansas Coliseum or build a replacement arena/convention center adjacent to the present Kansas Coliseum. And keep that 5,000 space parking lot adjacent to I-135 FREE for the people to attend the coliseum and the horse/gun shows in the adjacent pavilions, activities that are about to be lost from Wichita.
Think positive, go Wichita!
We have already voted on the Arena issue in 2004. The decision of the people was to allow a limited sales tax to fund the construction of a downtown arena, case closed. If we get to have “do-overs”, let’s have one that is truly important, like the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections.
Bad: We had three or four NO votes on the arena. The last one was basically a tie with 80,000 for and 80,000 against. With a prospective expenditure of $250,000,000.47 in TAX MONEY for NO KNOWN purpose and with no prospective users on the horizon, this white elephant needs to be voted on once again.
As for Phill Kline, he truly wants to be the Fuhrer of this new Kansas Theocracy. He is every bit as fanatical and dangerous as Hitler ever was. If you ever had any doubts, look and his “Tiller fiasco” of Thursday and Friday.
I can’t wait to follow the daily news stories in the KC Star chronicling the malfeasance of Kline in Johnson County.
Posted by: Blaidd Drwg | December 23, 2006 at 06:40 AM
Herr Tiller is more like Hittler than anyone in Kansas…
-extermination camps-propaganda machines like his political PAC-faithful SS companion attorneys-holding local officials to do his will with his puppet strings
Prior to filing the charges, I consulted an discussed the case with the Sedgwick County district attorney. I arranged for a meeting yesterday afternoon. Myself, Mr. Maxwell and Mr. Rucker signed into her office, which will be reflected on her office log at approximately 3:30 in the afternoon.
We met in her office, her chief deputy in the criminal division was present for part of the conversation. His name is Kevin O’Connor. During that conversation, I informed the district attorney of the charges we were considering filing. I discussed them with her. She questioned whether I would have jurisdiction as Johnson County district attorney to pursue those charges once I left this office. I told her I would not. But she did not question the authority of the office of the Attorney General in filing the charges. And she specifically stated in response to my query that she would not object to the filing of those charges.
And she specifically stated in response to my query that she would not object to the filing of those charges.
And she specifically stated in response to my query that she would not object to the filing of those charges.
she would not object to the filing of those charges.
she would not object to the filing of those charges.
she would not object to the filing of those charges.
she would not object to the filing of those charges.
Subsequently, without notice to this office either by the judge who considered the motion, who was not the judge who reviewed the evidence to file the charges, nor notice to this office by the district attorney of Sedgwick County, she filed a motion for dismissal based on flawed facts and flawed legal reasoning. I was not notified that this was being filed or considered until after an order had already been issued, dismissing the case.
Well FW, there is that bothersome 1st Amendment again: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Sorry if Dr. Tiller demonstrates his right to “to petition the Government for a redress of grievances” by contributing to candidates who hold a more moderate view on a woman’s right to privacy.
It must really burn your ass every time you think about the fact that abortion is LEGAL and you really can’t do a damned thing about it except act like a terrorist.
Pa and The Rifle================
Pa never had much compassion for the lazy or those who squandered their means and then never had enough for the necessities. But for those who were genuinely in need, his heart was as big as all outdoors. It was from him that I learned the greatest joy in life comes from giving, not from receiving.
It was Christmas Eve 1881. I was fifteen years old and feeling like the world had caved in on me because there just hadn’t been enough money to buy me the rifle that I’d wanted for Christmas. We did the chores early that night for some reason. I just figured Pa wanted a little extra time so we could read in the Bible.
After supper was over I took my boots off and stretched out in front of the fireplace and waited for Pa to get down the old Bible. I was still feeling sorry for myself and, to be honest, I wasn’t in much of a mood to read Scriptures. But Pa didn’t get the Bible, instead he bundled up again and went outside. I couldn’t figure it out because we had already done all the chores. I didn’t worry about it long though, I was too busywallowing in self-pity.
Soon Pa came back in. It was a cold clear night out and there was ice in his beard. “Come on, Matt,” he said. “Bundle up good, it’s cold out tonight.” I was really upset then. Not only wasn’t I getting the rifle for Christmas, now Pa was dragging me out in the cold, and for no earthly reason that I could see. We’d already done all the chores, and I couldn’t think of anything else that needed doing, especially not on a night like this.
But I knew Pa was not very patient at one dragging one’s feet when he’d told them to do something, so I got up and put my boots back on and got my cap, coat, and mittens. Ma gave me a mysterious smile as I opened the door to leave the house. Something was up, but I didn’t know what.
Outside, I became even more dismayed. There in front of the house was the work team, already hitched to the big sled. Whatever it was we were going to do wasn’t going to be a short, quick, little job. I could tell. We never hitched up this sled unless we were going to haul a big load.
Pa was already up on the seat, reins in hand. I reluctantly climbed up beside him. The cold was already biting at me. I wasn’t happy. When I was on, Pa pulled the sled around the house and stopped in front of the woodshed. He got off and I followed. “I think we’ll put on the high sideboards,” he said. “Here, help me.” The high sideboards! It had been a bigger job than I wanted to do with just the low sideboards on, butwhatever it was we were going to do would be a lot bigger with the high sideboards on.
After we had exchanged the sideboards, Pa went into the woodshed and came out with an armload of wood—the wood I’d spent all summer hauling down from the mountain, and then all Fall sawing into blocks and splitting. What was he doing? Finally I said something. “Pa,” I asked, “what are you doing?” You been by the Widow Jensen’s lately?” he asked. The Widow Jensen lived about two miles down the road. Her husband had died a year or so before and left her with three children, the oldest being eight. Sure, I’d been by, but so what? “Yeah,” I said, “Why?” “I rode by just today,” Pa said. “Little Jakey was out digging aroundin the woodpile trying to find a few chips. They’re out of wood, Matt.”
That was all he said and then he turned and went back into the woodshed for another armload of wood. I followed him. We loaded the sled so high that I began to wonder if the horses would be able to pull it. Finally, Pa called a halt to our loading, then we went to the smoke house and Pa took down a big ham and a side of bacon. He handed them to me and told me to put them in the sled and wait.
When he returned he was carrying a sack of flour over his right shoulder and a smaller sack of something in his left hand. “What’s in the little sack?” I asked. “Shoes. They’re out of shoes. Little Jakey just had gunny sacks wrapped around his feet when he was out in the woodpile this morning. I got the children a little candy too. It just wouldn’t be Christmaswithout a little candy.”
We rode the two miles to Widow Jensen’s pretty much in silence. I tried to think through what Pa was doing. We didn’t have much by worldly standards. Of course, we did have a big woodpile, though most of what was left now was still in the form of logs that I would have to saw into blocks and split before we could use it. We also had meat and flour, so we could spare that, but I knew we didn’t have any money, so why was Pa buying them shoes and candy?
Really, why was he doing any of this? Widow Jensen had closer neighbors than us; it shouldn’t have been our concern. We came in from the blind side of the Jensen house and unloaded the wood as quietly as possible, then we took the meat and flour and shoes to the door. We knocked. The door opened a crack and a timid voice said, “Who is it?” “Lucas Miles, Ma’am, and my son, Matt. Could we come in for a bit?”
Widow Jensen opened the door and let us in. She had a blanket wrapped around her shoulders. The children were wrapped in another and were sitting in front of the fireplace by a very small fire that hardly gave off any heat at all. Widow Jensen fumbled with a match and finally lit the lamp. “We brought you a few things, Ma’am,” Pa said and set down the sack of flour. I put the meat on the table. Then Pa handed her the sack that had the shoes in it.
She opened it hesitantly and took the shoes out one pair at a time. There was a pair for her and one for each of the children—sturdy shoes, the best, shoes that would last. I watched her carefully. She bit her lower lip to keep it from trembling and then tears filled her eyes and started runningdown her cheeks. She looked up at Pa like she wanted to say something, but it wouldn’t come out.
“We brought a load of wood too, Ma’am,” Pa said. He turned to me and said, “Matt, go bring in enough to last awhile. Let’s get that fire up to size and heat this place up.” I wasn’t the same person when I went back out to bring in the wood. I had a big lump in my throat and as much as I hate to admit it, there were tears in my eyes too.
In my mind I kept seeing those three kids huddled around the fireplace and their mother standing there with tears running down her cheeks with so much gratitude in her heart that she couldn’t speak. My heart swelled within me and a joy that I’d never known before, filled my soul. I had given at Christmas many times before, but never when it had made so much difference. I could see we were literally saving the lives of these people.
I soon had the fire blazing and everyone’s spirits soared. The kids started giggling when Pa handed them each a piece of candy and Widow Jensen looked on with a smile that probably hadn’t crossed her face for a long time. She finally turned to us. “God bless you,” she said. “I know the Lord has sent you. The children and I have been praying that he would send one of his angels to spare us.”
In spite of myself, the lump returned to my throat and the tears welled up in my eyes again. I’d never thought of Pa in those exact terms before, but after Widow Jensen mentioned it I could see that it was probably true. I was sure that a better man than Pa had never walked the earth. I started remembering all the times he had gone out of his way for Ma and me, and many others. The list seemed endless as I thought on it.
Pa insisted that everyone try on the shoes before we left. I was amazed when they all fit and I wondered how he had known what sizes to get. Then I guessed that if he was on an errand for the Lord that the Lord would make sure he got the right sizes.
Tears were running down Widow Jensen’s face again when we stood up to leave. Pa took each of the kids in his big arms and gave them a hug. They clung to him and didn’t want us to go. I could see that they missed their Pa, and I was glad that I still had mine.
At the door Pa turned to Widow Jensen and said, “The Mrs. wanted me to invite you and the children over for Christmas dinner tomorrow. The turkey will be more than the three of us can eat, and a man can get cantankerous if he has to eat turkey for too many meals. We’ll be by to get you about eleven. It’ll be nice to have some little ones around again. Matt, here,hasn’t been little for quite a spell.” I was the youngest. My two brothers and two sisters had all married and had moved away. Widow Jensen nodded and said, “Thank you, Brother Miles. I don’t have to say, “‘May the Lord bless you,’ I know for certain that He will.”
Out on the sled I felt a warmth that came from deep within and I didn’t even notice the cold. When we had gone a ways, Pa turned to me and said, “Matt, I want you to know something. Your ma and me have been tucking a little money away here and there all year so we could buy that rifle for you, but we didn’t have quite enough.
Then yesterday a man who owed me a little money from years back came by to make things square. Your ma and me were real excited, thinking that now we could get you that rifle, and I started into town this morning to do just that. But on the way I saw little Jakey out scratching in the woodpile with his feet wrapped in those gunny sacks and I knew what I had to do.Son, I spent the money for shoes and a little candy for those children. I hope you understand.”
I understood, and my eyes became wet with tears again. I understood very well, and I was so glad Pa had done it. Now the rifle seemed very low on my list of priorities. Pa had given me a lot more. He had given me the look on Widow Jensen’s face and the radiant smiles of her three children.
For the rest of my life, Whenever I saw any of the Jensen’s, or split a block of wood, I remembered, and remembering brought back that same joy I felt riding home beside Pa that night. Pa had given me much more than a rifle that night, he had given me the best Christmas of my life.
~by Rian B. Anderson~
I tell ya, Christmas can be uber-hectic when you have five kinder running wild all over the house!
* 1. Schizophrenia — Do You Hear What I Hear?* 2. Multiple Personality Disorder — We Three KingsDisoriented Are* 3. Dementia — I Think I’ll be Home for Christmas* 4. Narcissistic — Hark the Herald Angels SingAbout Me* 5. Manic – Deck the Halls and Walls and House andLawn and Streets and Stores and Office and Town andCars and Buses and Trucks and Trees and…..* 6. Paranoid — Santa Claus is Coming to Town to GetMe* 7. Borderline Personality Disorder — Thoughts ofRoasting on an Open Fire* 8. Personality Disorder — You Better Watch Out,I’m Gonna Cry, I’m Gonna Pout, Maybe I’ll Tell You Why* 9. Attention Deficit Disorder — Silent night, Holyoooh look at the Froggy – can I have a chocolate, whyis France so far away?* 10. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder — Jingle Bells,Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, JingleBells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells,Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, JingleBells, Jingle Bells, Jingle,Bells, Jingle Bells,Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, JingleBells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells,Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, JingleBells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells,Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, JingleBells,*******************************************************************************
Blaid…you really have blinders on, don’t you? The reason that many of the former polling places were removed was because they did not meet ADA requirements. People like you screamed and yelled for ADA rules, and now you have to live with the consequences, and you don’t like it.
Not everything unsettling in this world is a Republican plot…but that is how you see it. Must be nice to live in a perfect world of everything Democratic is perfect, and everything else is bad.
Raptor….as Kelly pointed out in the first post of this thread, most schools ARE ADA compliant. How many schools were used as polling sites this election? As far back as I can remember, schools HAVE been used as polling sites prior to Bill Gale.
I spoke with Bill Gale about that, and the concern is parking at schools. Most schools are in session on Election days, or hadn’t you noticed? And parking is very, very limited.
I can see it now…if he were to start using schools, and you couldn’t find a place to park, you would scream it is a Republican plot to keep YOU (and only you) from voting.
Raptor – if parking was the real problem sought to be remedied by dumping schools as polling sites, then why is it that USD 259 NEVER complained to Gale about parking being an issue for their people on Election Day? Gale made this decision without EVER having received a complaint from USD 259 about ANY kind of Election Day problem with use of their space as polling sites. I think the parking issue was a figment of Gale’s imagination, or just the convenient “Monday morning” rationalization of a secret decision that Gale made to promote whatever agenda he is promoting.
And you have proof that USD 259 never complained about parking? I never said they did…I love your assertion.
The problem was from VOTERS calling to complain about a lack of parking….or, isn’t this about the VOTERS?
“Raptor – if parking was the real problem sought to be remedied by dumping schools as polling sites, then why is it that USD 259 NEVER complained to Gale about parking being an issue for their people on Election Day? Gale made this decision without EVER having received a complaint from USD 259 about ANY kind of Election Day problem with use of their space as polling sites. I think the parking issue was a figment of Gale’s imagination, or just the convenient “Monday morning” rationalization of a secret decision that Gale made to promote whatever agenda he is promoting.”Posted by: kelly | December 23, 2006 at 10:50 AM
Cannot park in employee parking lots of the schools, so must park on the street! The street does not comply with ADA requirements for ACCESS to the POLLS!
Grandma Jones must wheel down 2 blocks of street to vote! I don’t think so!
TEE HEE!
I voted at a public school for two decades, and was never told to park in the street. Quit making up stories and rationalizations that never entered Gale’s head. And – yes – I have proof that USD 259 never asked Gale to reduce or elimination schools as polling sites.
“And – yes – I have proof that USD 259 never asked Gale to reduce or elimination schools as polling sites.”Posted by: kelly | December 23, 2006 at 11:04 AM
Proof is in the pudding! I want it now!!!
TEE HEE
Bill Gale will admit that he never rec’d any kind of request from USD 259 to reduce or eliminate schools as polling sites. Since you seem to know so much about his thought processes, I thought you would know, or would have already asked him. Course you don’t “investigate” or “research” anything before it spills out of your gullet, do you?
I used to vote at a school. No problems.
Then they shifted me to a church. OK, but I disliked the sudden avalanche of mail from that church and some of the church people pestering me when I went to vote.
Gale shifted me to ANOTHER church. Now I get mail from them.
I am sick of dealing with it and so now vote absentee.
“Course you don’t “investigate” or “research” anything before it spills out of your gullet, do you?”Posted by: kelly | December 23, 2006 at 11:12 AM
Where’s the proof!!! I want the pudding now!!!
I researched the issue. The proof is a source at USD 259. But I see nothing to be gained by giving you the name.
Let me guess! Since you said you talked to Bill Gale, but he didn’t tell you the reason why they removed schools from the polling place list.
Other than the HAVA Act, I can only suspect the reason why schools were removed off the list, is because it’s schools! We have our elections on Tuesday, which is a school day and classes are being conducted.
It might have been a school decision to keep adults from going into schools. It’s a different world now. Schools are on lock down most of the time. Having a steady stream of angry Democrat voters could pose a serious threat to our children. Sounds rediculous huh?
The thought that Bill Gale reducing polling place a Republican plot is one too.
*shakes head*
Since you talked to Bill Gale! What was his answer?
The only thing I can find about Gene Rardin and to so called Republican lawsuit is that Rardin won by 4 votes. The Republicans ask for a re-vote, Rardin still won (fair and square). End of story. I could not find a single on going lawsuit still pending on this issue, other than the Kansas Democrat Party’s website saying that rabid foaming in the mouth Republicans are challenging it and they need contributions to help stop the Republicans.
Unless you provide me any real information, I consider this just another Democrat scare tatic fund raising ploy.
Next!
As I indicated above, it was NOT A SCHOOL DECISION! They were shocked to learn of Gale’s unilateral decision.
Junior,Are you drinking again? I’ve been voting at a church for the past 12 years, and I’ve never gotten any mail from them. No one other than the election workers address me while I’m there.
You’re what we call (in our common-sense circles) as “a bitcher”.
What was Gale’s response Kelly?
SAVE Santa from GLOBAL WARMING!!! (YouTube video)
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Uh Kelly….check above. It was not a complaint from the schools. Nobody here said it was. It was many complaints from the VOTERS. Remember them? The people that had problems finding a place to park are the ones that lodged complaints.
NEVER DID ANYONE SAY IT WAS THE SCHOOLS. Shall I repeat it for you, or did you get it this time?
Raptor! No! It has to be a Republican Conspiracy to suppress the voters. Don’t you know that there isn’t any voters that are Republicans? They are all Democrats. The Republicans are the corporations who steal and suppress the will of the voters by tapping into voter machines and keeping people from the polls so they can stuff the ballot box with fake ballots.
Cosmos! Thanks for the laugh!
Ohhh that is right, thanks for reminding me, Joe. It was a plot that ONLY affects Democrats’ ability to vote.
(somehow, I fail to see the logic on that..how consolidating voting places negatively affects one party more than the other…)
Simple! Take the Polling place away from Democrat districts.
Gale’s response was “parking” but his answer doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, as I have already indicated.
He is the election commissoner and he makes the decisions.
It was a fair one. Parking is a big issue.
scrutiny? Oh! Because some Republicans got elected to office. I forgot! Yeah! We can only really anounce a fair election if all Democrats win every office.
That’s what I like about you Jay R., you are consistent and you never fail to take a shot at Christians. :)
V.L.R.B!!
Ian! Don’t worry about Jay Are. It’s a nothing nobody with too much free time to troll.
It’s nice not to have to work.
Joe Williams,
Glad you enjoyed it… but the ice-retreat animation at this site is NOT funny.
‘Abrupt Ice Retreat Could Produce Ice-Free Arctic Summers by 2040′http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2006/arctic.shtml
We are going past the tipping point of no return.SAVE SANTA!!!
Well! I want Palm Trees to grow in Kansas and also have an ocean front! Go Global Warming.
;)
What’s the big deal? So the number of polling places was reduced; we all managed to get to them (voter turnout was good) and thrash the republicans. What more could you want?
Because Todd Tiahrt won, when he wasn’t suppose to.
Fat – “Where’s the proof!!! I want the pudding now!!!”
Yea, I want the proof that Foulston said all those things to youaboutnot objecting to the charges.
“Prior to filing the charges, I consulted an discussed the case with the Sedgwick County district attorney.”
You claim it; you PROVE it.
kelly – rather than re-hashing further he issue of the number of voting places lets look forward not backwards. I believe that Bill is an honest man and will be interested in finding ways to make all this work. As has been pointed out, 2008 will be the REAL test. Let’s see what loctions can be found with sufficient parking etc to hold the election. Let’s work together to find additional advance voting locations – that worked well for me.
One thing I think could be quite interesting wold be some sort of county-wide voting. Let me vote near work rather than home. With computers they can pull up by correct ballot anywhere. It seems to me that if we work together we can solve this.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/
Front Page!
klines statemint! eagle reports it!ur newspaper! ur truth!
“Prior to filing the charges, I consulted an discussed the case with the Sedgwick County district attorney.”
I don’t troll Joe. Would you like me to start so you could be right about…..anything?
Stick with bunny drawings nursery school boy.
Fat – you posted it as though it was you Foulston talked to. So now we have Kline’s ASSERTION that she said those things. That does not constitute proof. So I do not know that it is “ur truth” whatever THAT means! So I still say “you claim it, you PROVE it”. PROVE that Foulston said those things. Did you tape record the things you heard
Joe,
Kansas is a tiny bit too high in elevation to get an ocean front ;)
Would current Louisiana during summer (but no ocean) and current Oklahoma during winter be okay?
These predictions are for Iowa… Kansas probably similar.http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/climate-change-in-the-hawkeye-state.html
Of course, no one knows for sure what the changes will be.But we do know that if we don’t like them, it’ll be difficult, probably impossible to FIX.
It ain’t nice (or wise) to fool with Mother Nature.
Heckler–
That was a very nice story dripping with sentimentality.
But what if the kindly neighbors hadn’t lived next door.
And what about all the widows with kids who didn’t have kindly neighbors or didn’t have neighbors?
You and your conservative buddies want women and children to starve to death before you’d agree to let the government–THEIR GOVERNMENT, OUR GOVERNMENT–help them survive.
Merry Christmas.
So now it’s “parking” that made Mr. Gale reduce polling sites by 70 percent.
I heard from someone who spoke to him first-hand that it was “fear of terrorism” against school kids.
Hmmm . . .
Any way, studies show that walking into a government facility to vote–like a school–reminds people of where their tax dollars go and the value of that.
So . . . voting at a church would do the opposite, wouldn’t it? Particularly now that the fundies have set themselves up in opposition to gov’t.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/16305331.htm
this story appears headlined in Wichita Eagle! accepted by thousands of people as true!
Huie Baluie logic says since I wasn’t there to record it, it must be false!
A story must be false if someone is not there personally to record it!
Amazing steps in science and logic!
have to be present at every event for it to be true!
dinosaurs!
wasn’t there!
It must be false!!!
creation of sun!
wasn’t there!
there is no sun!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
beware the logic terrorists! they will kill ur mind!
All CapnGalahad wants for Christmas is a mandatory, crale to grave nanny state. Who would have thunk it???
V.L.R.B!!
Things I’m thankful for:
that Ian and his ilk are on the other side of the political aisle.
As for “cradle to grave nanny state,” YES, that’s exactly what I want.
If you mean kids don’t go hungry and lack medical care, if you mean old folks don’t have to subsist on cat food turn their heat off in the winter, if you mean that someone’s employer can’t fire you without cause because he wants to hire his nephew, if you mean that I shouldn’t have to drink poison in my tap water and breath toxic fumes in my air . . .
then, yes, indeed, I support the “cradle to grave nanny state.”
I prefer to call it simply “government concerned with the common good.”
No fatso (ASBESTOS), that is NOT what I said. I simply noted that you had stated that things were told to you and then changed your story to one of hearsay. I noted that there was no corroborating evidence.
I do not claim it is false; I never did. YOU KNOW THAT! Regardless of your lies otherwise. I simply noted that since YOU are making the claims YOU carry the burden of proof.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/16302068.htm
is there!
by ur newspaper!
the statement!
proof of burden is thiers!
ur eyes lie each time to ur brain!how can u read!
the sight terrorists! beware!
Kline’s statementThis is what Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline said at his Friday afternoon news conference in Topeka
Kline’s statement – not the Eagle’s statement. There is a difference.
News flash – Recent scientific studies have shown that exposure to asbestos causes fat wrinkles. Bush to ask for more time for studies.
Film at eleven.
WSC – does it also cause brain damage?
Foulston’s statement:
“The District Attorney has not invited or requested, consented or acquiesced, or failed to object to the filing of the Complaint. The District Attorney does in fact object to any such filing by the Attorney General as he lacks the legal authority to file such complaint in this jurisdiction.”
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/local/16301033.htm
Proves your statement false fatso. Foulston never said what you and Kline claim she did. Directly from the same newspaper.
Notive the top Al-Quida leader killed to date was at the Afghan/Pakistan border. Not the Iraq/syria, Iraq/Iran border, or for that matter even in Iraq propper! If Bush only had a brain!
Wow, I figured after a year or so the WE Blog users would become more local and intelligent at the same time. Was I ever wrong. More people from Canada and California than ever and the average IQ still lingers in double digits. It’s beginning to look a lot like I remember Kansas City Kansas. So sorry for you all.
Hi Whoa. Things have definitely gottn hot, especially for the holidays. Seems like the last week or so has been particularly hostile for some reason. Maybe it’s the bad traffic. Or maybe the realization that we haven’t gotten all our shopping done! Who knows?
Well, I plan to enjoy my grandchildren for the holidays; their little smiles are priceless. Of course, after a while with them my back REALLY pays the price! ;^)
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Last I went to Downtown KC, I just saw boarded up buildings, graffiti everywhere, trash blowing around everywhere and the only people walking around were the Urban outdoorsmen (known as the homeless).
I thought I was in a war zone in Beirut or something. I’ve been to many cities across the US and I have never seen a downtown so dead in all the places I have been.
It’s really dead! Their tallest skyscrapers were completely abandon and empty. Just makes you really think where KC is going.
It was like that movie “Judgement Night”. I just turned off the wrong exit.
People tout the Plaza and Westport as something special, but those areas aren’t even close to downtown KC like our Old Town is.
KC’s got problems.
Something I have proposed in the past is to use empty storefronts as a sort of urban art gallery. Let local artists show off their work, perhaps with information for purchase. It would cost very litte and would brighten up downtown.
Yes, Joe, but KC is getting an NHL team and Wichita is getting…..?
V.L.R.B!!
Below – a good link for those that think…..
The Top Eleven Outrageous Comments from 2006.
It has been so bad, Virgil Goode (R-Idiot) did not make the list.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200612220013
It has been an interesting year.
The Thunder! ;)
Hey! Detroit has pro teams, but would you go to their downtown at night?
Great list WSC!
Joe, i have been in downtown KC many times. Not as nice as downtown Chicago but not bad at all!
“Hey! Detroit has pro teams, but would you go to their downtown at night?”
As a former Detroiter, going Downtown at night is no issue at all. I have even given my (adult) daughters tickets to Red Wing games and they went by themselves. Downtown Detroit is not a problem – stay out the of drug dealing areas north and there is no problems…..
… sort of like Wichita.
BTW – when I go back to Detroit to visit, downtown is usually high on the list of places to go.
BTW Joe! I think the Thunder plays in Park City.
Sure, take a stroll through East St. Louis sometime! Detroit is a nasty third world pesthole.
V.L.R.B!!
Howard Dean”I hate Republicans, and everything they stand for”
Joe Biden D-DunkinDonuts;”You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent”
Ray Nagin D-Hersheys“This city will be chocolate at the end of the day.”
Nancy Pelosi”We pledge to make this the most honest, ethical, and openCongress in history.”
John Kerry,”We’re here to talk about education. But I want to say something before that….You know, education, if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez-Hero to Democrats and the Left”And the devil came here yesterday. Yesterday the devil came here. Right here. [crosses himself] And it smells of sulfur still today. Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from this rostrum, the president of the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world.”
Leftist Iran Pres. on the Holocaust Denial Conference”Iran is your home and is the home of all freedom seekers of the world. Here you can express your views and exchange opinions in a friendly, brotherly and free atmosphere.”
Senator Conrad Burns”We thank God for those young people that do it every day and every night –to fight this enemy that’s a taxi cab driver in the daytime, but a killer at night.”
Senator Hillary Clinton”Ghandi works at the gas station down the street”
Joy Behar on “The View” – “Is there such a thing as a man-made stroke? In other words, did someone do this to him?”Hasselbeck: “Why is everything coming from the liberal perspective of conspiracy? Even this is a conspiracy.”Behar: “I just know what that party is capable of.”
Senator Edward Kennedy (D)”Why don’t we just ask Osama bin — Osama Obama — Obama what — since he won by such a big amount. Seriously, Senator Obama is really unique and special.”
Just to provide a fair and balange approach. ;)
Obviously you have never been to Detroit, Santiago.
Go away.
Correction: Often Wrong Ben.
The Kansas Coliseum is in the county, not Park City.
Joe, post the LINKS, not the whole copy/paste routine. Let us decide for ourselves the credibilty of the source.
That would be the “fair and balange approach.”
Downtown Kansas City nice? When was that?
I was just there last year. If they made any approvement since last year, that would be a surprise.
Anybody been to Kemper? Yeah! Nice Neighborhood it’s in.
LOL! These are all known as famous quotes.
But if you insist! I’ll just give you the Kennedy statement.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A4354-2005Jan12?language=printer
Even videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx2YJ-_jos
LOL! Like Media Matters is a crediable source. LOL! What a joke!
Hey, Joe, do you consider YouTube to be a “news source?”
LOL – What a joke!
As for the Washington Post – isn’t that the newspaper of the right (?) Reverend Sun Mung Moon of Moonie fame?
I thought so….
Ok! You can deny it all you want. These quotes are accruate and true.
You can deny the holocause as well. It’s up to you.
But if you think what I posted was all fabrications, that’s up to you. *Shakes Head*
If you *really* think I’m just making these quotes up and that were not sad, you either don’t follow current political events, ignorant, or you cannot face the facts. In all honesty! You just blew it for credibilty buddy! You’re just another troll now.
Joe,You’re arguing with the room drug addict. Even when he’s 100% wrong (as he is here), he’ll never admit it.
I posted 3-4 other links to that Kennedy speech where he said “Why don’t we just ask Osama bin — Osama Obama — Obama what…”
It’s accurate.
Sorry Joe, I never said that your quote were not true – I just asked for a link.
And the Rev. Moon does own the Washington Post.
As for the holocaust (spelled correctly) Joe, youmight remember that I am of partial Jewish ancestry.
a.k.a., the infamous Jew Boy.
You really need to go back on your medicine Joe, you’re imagining things again.
Stalking again, Nutz? I guess you couldn’t find P Mom.
Correct Often Wrong Joe. But it is a lot closer to Park City then to Wichita. So how is the Thunder in Wichita?
WSC – I think it is the Washington TIMES, not the Post owned by Moon.
Yer right, Ben – my bad – still links are useful for sources.
I remember the Kennedy stupid statement. Ol Joe Williams! who thinks outer Sedgwick County is in Wichita considers it real important.
I wonder what Rightie hero David Duke said at the Holocaust Deniers conference? And don’t forget Rightie Queen Ann Coulter saying the only thing wrong with her hero Tim McVeigh is that he didn’t bomb the NYTimes.
Joe Williams + golfnuts,
People normally PAUSE when they realize they’ve said the wrong name — either trying to recall the correct name, or to seperate incorrect from correct.
Video and audio is EASILY edited.
“…” is used to signify a PAUSE, or something omitted.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20050112-1451-kennedy-democrats.html“Kennedy also mangled the name of the Democrats’ new star, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, calling him “Osama bin … Osama … Obama.” ”
golfnuts? IIRC, I *ALREADY* explained the above to you last week.
Foulston’s statement:
“The District Attorney has not invited or requested, consented or acquiesced, or failed to object to the filing of the Complaint. The District Attorney does in fact object to any such filing by the Attorney General as he lacks the legal authority to file such complaint in this jurisdiction.”http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/local/16301033.htmProves your statement false fatso. Foulston never said what you and Kline claim she did. Directly from the same newspaper.Posted by: Slim | December 23, 2006 at 04:41 PM
were u there!!!
did u record it!!!
u not there, it is not proven!
u hippo and crit!
u use same paper and make tru!
hah!
liar and pant burning!
TEE
HEE
The Washington Post is owned by a media conglomerate: The Washington Post Company (NYSE: WPO).
So Joe! What professional teams does Wichita have?
cosmos,That link is incorrect. I not only have heard the transcript of that speech, I *saw* it on C-SPAN. The Washington Post link has it correct.
Goofnuts——> ditto head
Joe Williams——> bobble head
FatWrinkles——–>JM
golfnuts,
“I not only have heard the transcript of that speech”
So you “heard the transcript”? Text-to-speech? WTF does that prove?
“I *saw* it on C-SPAN.”
I admit I don’t trust the credibility of either the Wa Post, or the AP.
Give us a link to that C-SPAN video, and if Kennedy said the two names close together, I’ll admit I’m wrong. Not that it matters — perhaps he was distracted by his mistake.
Otherwise, you lose.It’s two media sources having different versions, and common sense says he would’ve paused between the two names.
WS,Loved your link to The Top Eleven Outrageous Comments from 2006.I do think that Rush might actually be on to something here. I bet he could lose a lot of weight by living only on butter from slaughtered cows!
So what if Kennedy said Osama Obama, the two names do sound alike, and it’s not like Bush has ever tripped over his words.
Geez, testicles, you really do like to pick on the small stuff. How about saying something that matters? Just once in awhile Mr. Ego?
Obama’s father WAS a kenyan muslim mau mau terrorist so fat teddy’s remarks were not far off the mark.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Santiago, don’t you have a holocaust deniers convention to go to?
I already attended said convention, Herr Clark(Decker?). It was quite illuminating, you should have joined me. :)
V.L.R.B!!
Well, fill us in on the details, Santiago. How did you folks rationalize all those concentration camps?
BTW – The legal name is William Stephenson Clark – if you would like to know more about the name, buy my book when it comes out next year – I’ll even autograph it for you.
The camps were DETENTION camps for potetial enemy aliens. If you remember, we had detention camps in America for Japanese, Germans and Italians for the same reasons.
In any event, Herr Clark, it’s Christmas so I propose a temporary truce. What is the subject matter of your book?
V.L.R.B!!
“What is the subject matter of your book?”
A metaphorical, somewhat humorous look at life, depression and the pursuit of happiness, as told through a fictional journey with a teenaged son and a dog.
And the beat goes on….and the beat goes on
A Boy and His Dog? *grin*
A disillusioned man, his son, frustrated with his single parent father and a Golden Retriever that is smarter than both of them put together, seeking a “cure for depression” on the road, looking for the answers……
And the nswer is, in chapter Thirteen, our hero finds that the answer is #$^%^&&*() &%^*&()) (&%$
You’ll have to buy the book to get the answer.
And autographs are free.
That sounds alot like Curly’s meaning of life in City Slickers :-)