The cover of today’s New York Post features the faces of Iraq Study Group co-chairmen James Baker and Lee Hamilton superimposed on chimps, with the tacky headline “Surrender monkeys: Iraq panel urges U.S. to give up.” Is that any way to treat the long-awaited unanimous, bipartisan blueprint for Iraq by a special commission that counts among its 10 members two former secretaries of state, one former attorney general, one former secretary of defense, two former members of Congress and a former Supreme Court justice? The dissing doesn’t stop there: An editorial inside the newspaper is headlined “The Counsel of Cowards.”
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Isn’t Rupert Murdoch the one that has bankrolled all the Republicans? Isn’t he also the one that bankrolls Rush Limbaugh and the rest of his ilk? Isn’t he also the one that tried to make some money off O.J. Simpson’s so-called confession book and tv deal?
Just because the man has money does not mean he has a brain.
By the editorial reaction of the Post, one might think that Mr. Murdoch has a direct, personal financial interest in the Iraq matter, and its continuation.
Or, perhaps it is (to paraphrase): “Hell hath no fury like a political philosophy scorned”.
Hey – is Rupert Murdoch tied into Halliburton? Maybe he doesn’t want to see his golden goose vanish?
Someone might actually mistake Murdoch for reporting news some day. When warmongers like Henry Kissinger say Iraq is fubar then it’s rather hard to find justification in continuing in illegal occupation.
However Murdoch knows that when Americans die it’s good for his business. Murdoch was born rich and he doesn’t bother with the concerns of pheasant folk. You can bet none of his children are serving in the military.
Isn’t Murdoch a foreigner? I seem to recall he is Australian.
hmmm, as I recall, he was born in Australia; he may be a naturalized citizen of the U.S., IIRC.
Thanks VT.
By the way, is this an example of the Liberal media?
But Rupert Murdoch is the brains behind Fox News – where is the fair and balanced in this news article?
Murdoch became a naturalized citizen because of U.S. laws about foreign ownership of the media. It was purely a business decision, not because he gave one rat’s ass about America.
I’m sure the right wingers must hate Murdoch for coming to America and taking American jobs.
To Murdoch, EVERYTHING is a business decision. This is same guy who’s giving us, at the same time, Bill O’Lielly and “Family Guy.” The self-righteously archconservative NY Post and the Sun in the UK (famous for the “page 3 girl”).
And of course, the OJ
. . . book deal. (hit the wrong key combo).
Yep, Rage: he just wants da money.
Honestly I think the study group should be comprised of all Active and Retired military Generals.
Joe- Your idea would have merit if this problem was going to be solved militarily.It is far more complex, hence the inclusion of non-military personnel in the mix to address the political and other factors.
I wish them well, but think this is like trying to get the lemmings to jump from the ocean back on the cliff where they jumped from!
New York Post aka world news weekly.
“pheasant folk”
Good one, Doug, but I’ve removed my feathers, afraid someone might mistake me for a turkey during the holidays.
Boo! Hiss! for Murdoch.
Joe,
Considering the comments made by retired Generals in the last year or so, I’d say you’d get the same answers from them as you do the politicians in the group.
Maybe Murdoch will give us HIS blueprint for victory.
and, maybe Joe Williams?
Wow…now THAT’s unbiased media at it’s finest. Almost as far right as the Eagle seems to be left, at times. :)
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James Baker was the Bush mafia’s war consiglieri down in Florida in 2000.
Seeing his face on a monkey’s body just supports my oft-repeated thesis–Bush has to destroy everyone who helped him before he himself can be thrown down.
It’s all part of God’s master plan to crush anti-Christian CONservative selfish individualism once and for all.
Praise Him!
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert do great political parody. Murdoch’s news empire is a parody too. Maybe Murdoch knows this, even though his hired minions don’t.
But then, the paper is correct. This group would have been right at home with Chamberlain.
It should be interesting when the dems pull the money plug as they did in Nam and then the real ka-ka hits the fan.
Im sure we will see the real face of the ROP (religion of peace)rear its ugly little head.
Hopefully the refugees will stay in the mideast rather than Dearbon-istan.
Dont think we have enough taxis here to support a large influx.
So, mrbill, are the Iraqis better off today than they were 4 years ago? And with all their oil why should we have to support them ad infinitum?
Instead of the term “Surrender Monkey” , which was stolen and shortened from the French derogatory term – “Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys” , we have always been partial to another in the same vain….
“Feckless Crap-Weasels”
Either is good.
Good joke. Now, mrbill, your plan for victory?
I like “Brainless War-Mongers”
America needs to take back it’s media from the likes of Rupert Murdoch.
Maybe soldiers getting kille, and Iraqi civilians getting murdered daily is good for paper sales, and Fox viewers.
There’s only one Chimp-In-Chief!
Steve – please do not insult chimps.
You’re right, Chimps are highly intelligent, the same can not be said about Bush.
Where the hell is good ole genuine American Ted Turner to thrash Rupert Waldhiem back to Insbruk.Fox news was outed in the past months for their internal top-down talking point broadcast dictums. Now the Post comes out with a juvenile cover addressing America’s biggest concern. Fats Limbaugh mocked M.J. Fox, all of these things will lead to Murchoch’s empire falling from grace. As the GOP goes, so goes the FOX.How sick do you feel every morning when we read about another American soldier dying. Doesn’t it seem clear now that we never should have gone and that every minute spent there now should come from GW Bush’s hide. I mean, he should be fired right now. He started the Iraq war and now he is getting his ass handed to him. Why would we let this arrogant little turd continue to hold office. He should be forced to resign. What purpose is he serving? Our foreign affairs are kapputbecause of his arrogance, because of his “hunches”.His Daddy wasn’t crying for Jeb, his Daddy was crying because of the shame GWB brought the nation and the Bush family name. I mean, this GWB has failed on every measure.Hell, Afghanistan is a fucking mess too.Katrina is still a fucking mess. Didn’t the Thai tsunami get cleaned up faster than Katrina?
Jim G.,
Hear, hear. Eat the rich, I say. Bunch of good-for-nothing parasites bent on redistributing income upwards to themselves, stealing from people who actually do the work.
I don’t hate the rich because I want to be wealthy. I hate them because they’re selfish, autocratic, cowardly, dictatorial assholes. And I’m sick of them dictating to us how we’re supposed to think and act. Fuck ‘em all, and fuck Rupert Murdoch in particular.
Three generals on Nightline tonight. Keane, one of the architects of what we have now, does not like the report. Jolwan and Eaton like it. Jolwan, in particular, strongly favors negotiating with Iraq’s neighbors. Eaton indicts the administration for failing to force the training of Iraqis. Even Keane agrees that the training program has been a failure. Keane notes that we are training both sides of a civil war and that they do not have a government to fight for. Jolwan says we have a totally wrong strategy now; he favors the changes in the report. Jolwan notes abject failure of security as does eaton.
Jolwan notes that the 79 points are interrelated and need to be done as a system; we need to get on with adoption. Eaton says the President neds to ‘come clean’ with the American people with the truth about Iraq.
Eaton has two sons fighting.
So, Joe Williams, two favor the report; one tends toward stay the course with more troops. That one is an architect of the course we are on.
Jim G, CF – remember, these are the LIBERAL MEDIA you are talking about!
CF,Sounds like you have quite the conflict of interest then. What do you propose we do to these “rich people?”
Could it be that Murdock and the Post are pimping for a national interest not our own? Could it be that Fox News, the MSM and most all other official organs are doing the same these days? Whose national interests are being advanced by the mess in Messopatomia anyway?
Interesting point Ig …
Mrbill wants to compound our original mistake (believing Bush) by continuing the mistake (continuing to believe him).
Let’s review these media fonts of wisdumb, shall we?
(from today’s DemUnderground):
“Tommy Franks and the coalition forces have demonstrated the old axiom that boldness on the battlefield produces swift and relatively bloodless victory. The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly shattered skeptics’ complaints.” (Fox News Channel’s Tony Snow, 4/27/03)
“The only people who think this wasn’t a victory are Upper Westside liberals, and a few people here in Washington.” (Charles Krauthammer,Inside Washington, WUSA-TV, 4/19/03)
“I will bet you the best dinner in the gaslight district of San Diego that military action will not last more than a week. Are you willing to take that wager?” (Fox News Channel’s Bill O’Reilly, 1/29/03)
“What’s he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war went too well and it’s over? I mean, don’t these things sort of lose their–Isn’t there a fresh date on some of these debate points?”(MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean–4/9/03)
“It is amazing how thorough the victory in Iraq really was in thebroadest context….. And the silence, I think, is that it’s clear that nobody can do anything about it. There isn’t anybody who can stop him. The Democrats can’t oppose–cannot oppose him politically.”(Washington Post reporter Jeff Birnbaum– Fox News Channel, 5/2/03)
“Now that the war in Iraq is all but over, should the people inHollywood who opposed the president admit they were wrong?”(Fox News Channel’s Alan Colmes, 4/25/03)
“I’m waiting to hear the words ‘I was wrong’ from some of the world’s most elite journalists, politicians and Hollywood types…. I just wonder, who’s going to be the first elitist to show the character to say: ‘Hey, America, guess what? I was wrong’? Maybe the White House will get an apology, first, from the New York Times’ Maureen Dowd. Now, Ms. Dowd mocked the morality of this war….
“Do you all remember Scott Ritter, you know, the former chief U.N. weapons inspector who played chief stooge for Saddam Hussein? Well, Mr. Ritter actually told a French radio network that — quote, “The UnitedStates is going to leave Baghdad with its tail between its legs,defeated.” Sorry, Scott. I think you’ve been chasing the wrong tail, again.
“Over the next couple of weeks when we find the chemical weapons this guy was amassing, the fact that this war was attacked by the left and so the right was so vindicated, I think, really means that the left is going to have to hang its head for three or four more years.”(Fox News Channel’s Dick Morris, 4/9/03)
“This has been a tough war for commentators on the American left. To hope for defeat meant cheering for Saddam Hussein. To hope for victory meant cheering for President Bush. The toppling of Mr. Hussein, or at least a statue of him, has made their arguments even harder to defend.Liberal writers for ideologically driven magazines like The Nation and for less overtly political ones like The New Yorker did not predict a defeat, but the terrible consequences many warned of have not happened. Now liberal commentators must address the victory at hand and confrontan ascendant conservative juggernaut that asserts United States might can set the world right.”(New York Times reporter David Carr, 4/16/03)
“Well, the hot story of the week is victory…. The Tommy Franks-Don Rumsfeld battle plan, war plan, worked brilliantly, a three-week war with mercifully few American deaths or Iraqi civilian deaths…. There is a lot of work yet to do, but all the naysayers have been humiliated so far…. The final word on this is, hooray.”(Fox News Channel’s Morton Kondracke, 4/12/03)
“Shouldn’t the prime minister and all of us who thought thewar was hasty and dangerous and wrongheaded admit that we were wrong? I mean, with the pictures of those Iraqis dancing in the streets, hauling down statues of Saddam Hussein and gushing their thanks to the Americans, isn’t it clear that President Bush and Britain’s Tony Blair were right all along? If we believe it’s a good thing that Hussein’s regime has been dismantled, aren’t we hypocritical not to acknowledgeBush’s superior judgment?… Why can’t those of us who thought the war was a bad idea (or, at any rate, a premature one) let it go now and just join in celebrating the victory wrought by our magnificent military forces?”(Washington Post’s William Raspberry, 4/14/03)
“This will be no war — there will be a fairly brief and ruthless military intervention…. The president will give an order. attack] will be rapid, accurate and dazzling…. It will be greeted bythe majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring it on.”(Christopher Hitchens, in a 1/28/03 debate– cited in the Observer,3/30/03)
“Speaking to the U.N. Security Council last week, Secretary of State Colin Powell made so strong a case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is in material breach of U.N. resolutions that only the duped, the dumb and the desperate could ignore it.”(Cal Thomas, syndicated column, 2/12/03)
When are you right-wingers going to “show some character” and admit that everything we war critics said was right–Iraq destroyed and not rebuilt, no oil revenues, millions of refugees, hundreds of thousand dead Iraqi civilians, 3000 dead America soldiers and no end in sight–and everything YOU said was wrong?
The changing goals of Iraq.
Things in Iraq will improve dramatically when we
1. neutralize the threat of WMD’s.
2. find and imprison Saddam Hussein.
3. establish elections in Iraq.
4. help the Iraqis draft a constitution.
5. uh, “stay the course.”
CrusWill–
The rich should pay their fair share:
cap gains taxed as ordinary income, which it is; income taxes on the wealthy raised back to Clinton-Gore levels; estate taxes re-instated to (somewhat) break up massive wealth concentrations that are unhealthy for society (just ask Warren Buffett).
Capn – a great list of commentary from the “liberal media” (sic)
Cap’n, watch your language, Pilgrim. The real right wingers were more vocally against Iraq than the likes of Hillary and Kerry. PJB, Sobran and other nationalists warned from the get go that it would be a total cluster and spoke out against it loudly, as did I. Neocons are the enemies, let’s drive them all back to whatever disguided place their selfish interests arise, back from whereever they hail. True red blooded Americans do not pledge so lightly the red blood of true Americans. My sons will not be sent to die for a neocon mistake.
Ignatius,So you are a protectionist paleocon then? I have more respect for you since you know to mind your own damn business. We shouldnt even be in the Middle East at all.
I seem to recall some of the other ‘oldtimers’ (maybe George Will?) being againstthe invasion. There is a BIG difference between ‘regular conservatives’ (think Goldwater) and neocons.
If this country is truly threatened you will find liberals and conservatives arm in arm fighting against the threat. Ask Goldwater, Dole, and McGovern.
CruX – I can’t quite agree with you that we shouldn’t be there at all. However we should not be there in the fashion that we are. I think that we could be the ‘honest broker’ to help countries find their way through things.
CruX, Word.
Ben, I recall Will playing both sides. He was for the war after he was against it but before he was for it again and now against it again. Guess whatever keeps the column running.
PJB is a god.
You’re absolutlely right Ig. That was before I realized that America was the cause of it’s own problems.