Comments on: Gates is no Rumsfeld http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/ The Wichita Eagle Editorial Department Blog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:59:40 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Jim http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109935 Jim Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:15:12 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109935 95-2 was the vote. Two no votes were republicans. Where is the liberal outrage? 95-2 was the vote. Two no votes were republicans. Where is the liberal outrage?

]]> By: Steven Davis http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109934 Steven Davis Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:37:44 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109934 Yep, J.R. - those were the criteria for the job. Yep, J.R. – those were the criteria for the job.

]]> By: J R http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109933 J R Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:43:07 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109933 Disappointing but not unexpected. Jon Stewart had the best take here. There were two key questions for Gates. 1. "Are you now or have you ever been Donald Rumsfeld?" 2. "Are you sure?" Disappointing but not unexpected.

Jon Stewart had the best take here.

There were two key questions for Gates.

1. “Are you now or have you ever been Donald Rumsfeld?”

2. “Are you sure?”

]]> By: Vaughn Tolle http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109932 Vaughn Tolle Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:31:31 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109932 Vote: 95-2, per NPR. Vote: 95-2, per NPR.

]]> By: Vaughn Tolle http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109931 Vaughn Tolle Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:25:20 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109931 cnn.com breaking news: Senate confirms Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense. cnn.com breaking news: Senate confirms Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense.

]]> By: political_mom http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109930 political_mom Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:22:01 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109930 Yeah will, pray for God to pull us out of this mess. Pray harder, whatever you're doing aint working. While you're at it, pray for God to provide for me...maybe win the lottery so I don't have to own any responsibility for myself or my world too. Yeah will, pray for God to pull us out of this mess. Pray harder, whatever you’re doing aint working.

While you’re at it, pray for God to provide for me…maybe win the lottery so I don’t have to own any responsibility for myself or my world too.

]]> By: Jed http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109929 Jed Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:19:32 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109929 Yeah, Gates may be better than Rummy, but does that mean we should settle for next to worst? What the country needs is a miracle worker to undo the mess this administration has gotten us into. Gates may or may not have learned something from his previous misdeeds, but that's not enough to pull the nation's nuts out of the fire Bush built! Yeah, Gates may be better than Rummy, but does that mean we should settle for next to worst? What the country needs is a miracle worker to undo the mess this administration has gotten us into. Gates may or may not have learned something from his previous misdeeds, but that’s not enough to pull the nation’s nuts out of the fire Bush built!

]]> By: CrusaderX http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109928 CrusaderX Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:34:50 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109928 Look at how pathetic you people are. You put your faith in American politicians while criticizing me for believing in an "invisible man." You want me to trust in a politician to deliver the goods they say they'll give us? Heh! I'll take my chances with the promise of a blissful afterlife from the "invisible man" any day! Look at how pathetic you people are. You put your faith in American politicians while criticizing me for believing in an “invisible man.” You want me to trust in a politician to deliver the goods they say they’ll give us? Heh! I’ll take my chances with the promise of a blissful afterlife from the “invisible man” any day!

]]> By: Doug http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109927 Doug Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:19:31 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109927 Gee, such a witty comeback. Is that what they teach you in Oklahoma? When you get back from fucking your sister perhaps you'll think of something better. Gee, such a witty comeback. Is that what they teach you in Oklahoma? When you get back from fucking your sister perhaps you’ll think of something better.

]]> By: rm6046 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109926 rm6046 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:00:19 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109926 Yeah Doug. Kansas -- home of Brownback, BTK, Fred Phelps, Operation Rescue and YOU!!! It really is distressing. Yeah Doug. Kansas — home of Brownback, BTK, Fred Phelps, Operation Rescue and YOU!!! It really is distressing.

]]> By: Ben Huie http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109925 Ben Huie Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:45:25 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109925 rm - the crimes attributed to him is support of the Contra terrorists who killed thousands. That said, I think there is so much fatigue with Rummy that the Senators will go with anyone to replace him. In effect, they are saying "bygones be bygones". I, too, hope that he finds a way to extricate my country from the mess Bush has made. It should be interesting. A side note - I wonder who in the administration leaked the Hadley and Rumsfield memos? And why? rm – the crimes attributed to him is support of the Contra terrorists who killed thousands. That said, I think there is so much fatigue with Rummy that the Senators will go with anyone to replace him. In effect, they are saying “bygones be bygones”. I, too, hope that he finds a way to extricate my country from the mess Bush has made. It should be interesting.

A side note – I wonder who in the administration leaked the Hadley and Rumsfield memos? And why?

]]> By: Doug http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109924 Doug Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:45:04 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109924 I don't know why the Senate Armed Services Committee decided to support a war criminal and a hater of democracy to the position of Secretary of State. Perhaps it's the same reason they supported Donald Rumsfeld who happily gave WMD to Saddam Hussein to use against his own people. Perhaps they Democrats didn't want to be abused by the corporate press for being obstructionist despite the fact the Republicans weren't labeled such when they often blocked Clinton's nominees. Perhaps another question is why the press is treating a war criminal so lightly. The Eagle slobbers over him like they do insane theocrat, cult member Brownback. Maybe they just don't like the fact Kansas is home to crazies like BTK, Fred Phelps, Operation Rescue that they wanted to make one bloodthirsty criminal actually look a bit more decent. Another question might be why rm6046 thinks northern Oklahoma is representative of the "real world" and Kansas is just some fantasy land. Maybe I shouldn't taunt stupid people like rm6046 any further, he drools on his bib when I mock him and his criminal friends. I don’t know why the Senate Armed Services Committee decided to support a war criminal and a hater of democracy to the position of Secretary of State. Perhaps it’s the same reason they supported Donald Rumsfeld who happily gave WMD to Saddam Hussein to use against his own people. Perhaps they Democrats didn’t want to be abused by the corporate press for being obstructionist despite the fact the Republicans weren’t labeled such when they often blocked Clinton’s nominees.

Perhaps another question is why the press is treating a war criminal so lightly. The Eagle slobbers over him like they do insane theocrat, cult member Brownback. Maybe they just don’t like the fact Kansas is home to crazies like BTK, Fred Phelps, Operation Rescue that they wanted to make one bloodthirsty criminal actually look a bit more decent.

Another question might be why rm6046 thinks northern Oklahoma is representative of the “real world” and Kansas is just some fantasy land. Maybe I shouldn’t taunt stupid people like rm6046 any further, he drools on his bib when I mock him and his criminal friends.

]]> By: rm6046 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109923 rm6046 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:45:59 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109923 WS: That's five minutes more than the rest of these yahoos are willing to give him. Small favors are still favors. WS: That’s five minutes more than the rest of these yahoos are willing to give him. Small favors are still favors.

]]> By: gster http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109922 gster Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:43:15 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109922 Gates is far better than Rumsfeld, and perhaps he can keep the Shrub from shooting us in the foot!Again!Like he did our collective wallets! The number of honest and competent people that can stand the aroma coming out of the Whte House has to be a hell of a short list! Gates is far better than Rumsfeld, and perhaps he can keep the Shrub from shooting us in the foot!Again!Like he did our collective wallets!

The number of honest and competent people that can stand the aroma coming out of the Whte House has to be a hell of a short list!

]]> By: J R http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109921 J R Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:24:07 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109921 Every Democrat on that commitee should be demoted when the comittees are reorganized after the takeover. Sheesh do they KEEP having to give the frat boy everything and everyone he asks for??! I'm ashamed the sonofabitch is from Wichita. Every Democrat on that commitee should be demoted when the comittees are reorganized after the takeover.

Sheesh do they KEEP having to give the frat boy everything and everyone he asks for??!

I’m ashamed the sonofabitch is from Wichita.

]]> By: WSClark http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109920 WSClark Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:21:40 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109920 Following Rumsfeld has to be like following a country singer at a rap concert - anything you do has to be better than the guy before you. I am not a fan of Gates, by any means, but there is absolutely nothing worse than Rumsfeld. At this point, I am willing to give Bob Gates the benefit of the doubt - he has about five minutes to show me that he has the (insert)to stand up to Bush, the Sequel..... Following Rumsfeld has to be like following a country singer at a rap concert – anything you do has to be better than the guy before you.

I am not a fan of Gates, by any means, but there is absolutely nothing worse than Rumsfeld.

At this point, I am willing to give Bob Gates the benefit of the doubt – he has about five minutes to show me that he has the (insert)to stand up to Bush, the Sequel…..

]]> By: rm6046 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109919 rm6046 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:05:59 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109919 Let's just give him a chance. I'll be the first "mea culpa" if he fails. And actually, Steven, I agree that it has to be a "shot in the arm" to follow Rummie, but now, he gets to prove it. Let him. Let’s just give him a chance. I’ll be the first “mea culpa” if he fails. And actually, Steven, I agree that it has to be a “shot in the arm” to follow Rummie, but now, he gets to prove it. Let him.

]]> By: political_mom http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109918 political_mom Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:59:42 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109918 I think you're right Steven. That's likely why he isn't given such a hard time. Just get him in there to do the job and hope that he doesn't try some crazy crap. Hopefully he learned his lesson from Iran Contra, and now is the time when it REALLY matters the most to us. I think you’re right Steven. That’s likely why he isn’t given such a hard time.

Just get him in there to do the job and hope that he doesn’t try some crazy crap. Hopefully he learned his lesson from Iran Contra, and now is the time when it REALLY matters the most to us.

]]> By: Steven Davis http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109917 Steven Davis Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:58:13 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109917 I heard no questions about Iran-Contra on NPR's broadcast. Gates could have stripped down naked and started performing lewd acts with teenage pages and the good Senators would have said, "Well, at least he's not Rumsfeld!" It has to be a dream to get to follow Rumsfeld in any job. I heard no questions about Iran-Contra on NPR’s broadcast. Gates could have stripped down naked and started performing lewd acts with teenage pages and the good Senators would have said, “Well, at least he’s not Rumsfeld!”

It has to be a dream to get to follow Rumsfeld in any job.

]]> By: political_mom http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109916 political_mom Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:57:21 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109916 There is no doubt that there is involvement from Gates on Iran Contra, and that he did, in fact, advocate for bombing Nicaragua, against the democratically elected government there.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gates" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gates</a> I do not know why everyone is not addressing the Iran Contra affair, and his involvement. Maybe because no charges were brought against him personally. There is no doubt that there is involvement from Gates on Iran Contra, and that he did, in fact, advocate for bombing Nicaragua, against the democratically elected government there.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gates

I do not know why everyone is not addressing the Iran Contra affair, and his involvement. Maybe because no charges were brought against him personally.

]]> By: Steven Davis http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109915 Steven Davis Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:54:49 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109915 I listed to the Senate committee questioning of Gates at times today. It was broadcast on NPR. The whole thing sounded like a love fest. The guy was able to give both Kennedy and Lieberman the answers they wanted -- that alone should make one suspicious. I think that there was so much Rumsfeld fatigue, that even Voldemort himself would look pretty good by comparison. I listed to the Senate committee questioning of Gates at times today. It was broadcast on NPR. The whole thing sounded like a love fest. The guy was able to give both Kennedy and Lieberman the answers they wanted — that alone should make one suspicious.

I think that there was so much Rumsfeld fatigue, that even Voldemort himself would look pretty good by comparison.

]]> By: rm6046 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109914 rm6046 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:41:48 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109914 Thanks Vaughn, Jim and Out. Glimmers of light in the darkness of ignorance. Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt, for God's sake? Thanks Vaughn, Jim and Out. Glimmers of light in the darkness of ignorance. Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt, for God’s sake?

]]> By: outlander http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109913 outlander Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:31:23 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109913 Doug: If your accusations against Gates had any basis in reality, don't you think it just might have come up in the hearings? How do you explain a unanimous approval vote by the Senate Armed Services Committee?Maybe they don't have all the information that you are privy to. Doug: If your accusations against Gates had any basis in reality, don’t you think it just might have come up in the hearings? How do you explain a unanimous approval vote by the Senate Armed Services Committee?Maybe they don’t have all the information that you are privy to.

]]> By: rm6046 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109912 rm6046 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:28:20 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109912 Since Doug and allies have decided that it doesn't matter, that Bob is a criminal and a traitor, etc., I'm just tired of arguing with their ilk. I hope like hell Bob can make some sense out of this quagmire, and get us the fuck out. He's being unfairly judged because he's a Republican. And Doug, Northern Oklahoma was just a question regarding your ability to assess the real world. Get the fuck over it. Since Doug and allies have decided that it doesn’t matter, that Bob is a criminal and a traitor, etc., I’m just tired of arguing with their ilk. I hope like hell Bob can make some sense out of this quagmire, and get us the fuck out. He’s being unfairly judged because he’s a Republican. And Doug, Northern Oklahoma was just a question regarding your ability to assess the real world. Get the fuck over it.

]]> By: Jim http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rum/#comment-109911 Jim Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:09:31 +0000 http://blogs.varsitykansas.com/weblog/2006/12/gates_is_no_rumhtml/#comment-109911 The sentiment here is a little hot for my taste. Can either side take some pride that a young man grew up, went to East High School and will be the next Secretary of Defense. I think the CIty and State should take some pride in this great accomplishment. Now back to the name calling. Great Job ! Bob Gates The sentiment here is a little hot for my taste. Can either side take some pride that a young man grew up, went to East High School and will be the next Secretary of Defense. I think the CIty and State should take some pride in this great accomplishment. Now back to the name calling.

Great Job !

Bob Gates

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