Doesn’t care for Brownback’s caring

As expected, presidential wannabe Sam Brownback’s compassionate approach to illegal immigration is getting bad reviews in some conservative quarters. “He has tossed aside law and order and, like Ted Kennedy, has sold out the American middle class in the hope of pandering to 20 million illegals,” wrote William H. Calhoun of NewsBlaze.com, who also called “Amnesty Sam” a “liberal globalist” who “should be avoided like the plague.”
Posted by Rhonda Holman

27 Comments

  1. Steven Davis
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    “Avoid cliches like the plague…”Unknown

  2. steve
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    The kiss of death for Brownback, being tied to Ted Kennedy!

  3. heartlander
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    Interestingly, the feds raided several Swift beef-and-pork packing plants and arrested many illegal immigrants. They are responding to complaints of immigrants’ using Americans’ social security numbers, which is identity theft.

    Some years back the feds hit some packing plants in Nebraska, but took major flack when the owners contacted their political representatives, crying that their businesses were being torpedoed. (”We can’t make a profit except by using illegal labor.) This is why we haven’t seen action since that debacle.

    But stopping identity theft will get a lot of public-support that the capitalist employers won’t be able to defeat. A big question is, will ID theft victims be able to sue employers? Civil class actions could conceivably put a stop to illegal hiring by corporations, and force them to hire Americans at decent wages, because unlike the Mrs. Smiths and Joneses who pay their illegal-immigrant maids and gardeners in unrecorded cash transactions, corporations issue paychecks, and this requires SS numbers. If an illegal corporate worker doesn’t have his/her own SS number, he/she is using somebody else’s. It could be yours or mine.

  4. Joe Williams
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    How can an Identify theft victim sue an employeer, because they hired somebody that used it.

    Corporations and small businesses have been asking the government for many years to set up a database check on social security numbers so they can check if an employer is using somebody elses social security number. Unfortantly the government is slow to inact this. With the Democrats back in power, I doubt we will see any light of day of this at all. Just a simple streamline online background check. Businesses don’t want to hire illegals.

    But Steve! You’re right! Aligning with Ted Kennedy is a kiss of death for Sam.

  5. Truth or Consequences
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    Don’t pay any attention to the rantings of Joe Williams. He makes it up as he goes.

    Employers have been able to verify Social Security Numbers for a long time now and it’s free as long as it’s for a valid business purpose. Point your browser to http://www.ssa.gov/employer/ssnv.htm

    If employers don’t exercise due diligence then they are liable to victims of identity theft.

    Joe, get off this blog!!

  6. wendy
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    It’s good that Brownieback has compassion. We should all have a bit more of it. The problem with Sam is that his compassion is thoughtless.

  7. Connie
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    I thought his recent move was spending the night in prison in Angola, La. in order to gain insight on helping prisoners avoid re-entry once they leave.

  8. rm6046
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    I see that Brownback declared, in Des Moines yesterday, that the GOP is a big “tent party” !! Being the clown, he should know !

  9. rm6046
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    Connie: I still haven’t figured out the prison episode, but if he was going to spend the night in a prison, why not Leavenworth or Lansing? As IN Kansas. Possibly because they didn’t want “his kind”, right here in Kansas..just curious.

  10. Ben Huie
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    rm - I think he did the prison thing with at least one other senator (not sure). So, they would have probably picked a “bad one” somewhere.

    I agree with him on the issue - we need to find a way to expedite ‘re-entry’ to reduce recidivism.

  11. delores
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    First, Brownback has stayed overnight at a Kansas prison.He spent the night in the Louisiana State Penitentiary in an effort to highlight the success of faith based initiatives. Our tax dollars at work.

  12. sunny
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    I read where Brownback spent the night in prison because of some faith-based group that works with prisons that he promotes.

    Why he picked Angola prison, I’m not quite sure.

    There are some things I like about Sam Brownback, but if he gets in to the White House - that will just give the power right back to the religious zealots and we saw how that worked for us the last time.

  13. rm6046
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Ben: From what I understand, the Federal Penitentiary at Leavenworth is just about as bad as it gets…but, no matter. “Expediting ‘re-entry’ to reduce recidivism” is a great, warm and fuzzy bullshit cliche. Most, not all, but most, of these inmates are “career criminals”. It’s what they do! They do what they do because of some severe psychological imbalance or psychosis or because that’s how they make a living. Many of them are middle aged and have spent more years of their lives institutionalized than “on the outside”. It’s all they know, and cannot function outside of highly structured and regimented environment, (nor, do they want to). I’ve seen many instances where a parolee who, after a few frustrating months out of “the joint”, will go purposely commit a non-violent property crime, set off an alarm, and sit around waiting for the police to arrive and confess on the spot, so the Board will violate his parole and send him back where he feels comfortable.

    As crazy at that may seem to you and me, Ben, it’s a fact. The ones that actually learn from the experience, and have no desire to go back, often get out and go on to live productive valuable lives, even with the big “strike” against them of having been there in the first place. They’re are their own success stories, and don’t need Brownback and cohorts’ platitudes to help them. The others ain’t listening, anyway !

  14. J R
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Brownback does not so much have compassion for illegal immigrants as he has obligation to the meat packers in western Ks that employ them.

  15. rm6046
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Sounds to me like you summed it up quite nicely, JR.

  16. political_mom
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    rm I suspect that the escaped inmate from the work release at Eldorado last month was doing that very thing. There is no reason to escape when you’re about to get out anyway.

    And look at where he went, drove around Wichita for a bit and to McDonalds or Burger king in a Clearly marked truck lol. Almost screaming COME GET ME.

    The thing is, I believe that programs to reduce recidivism is a good thing. You’re wrong on the most. There are some that end up being career criminals. But imagine how full our prisons would be if that were really true.

    Most who go in as kids, eventually straighten out.

    I’m for anything that reduces recidivism, if that’s a religious program, so be it. However there should be no special priviledges for being in those religious programs- which is the case right now.

  17. fleettwood
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    I think he went to Popeyes chicken.

  18. political_mom
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Another racist comment from Fleets enema.

  19. KSGolfnut
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Popeyes Chicken? I love that stuff! Absolultely the best chicken on the planet. I bet he did go there - certainly more enticing than Burger King.

    WTF is racist about Popeyes? It’s just damned good food. Far superior to prison grub, I’d bet.

  20. fleettwood
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    As racist as defending the throwing of Oreo cookies?And it was in the same hundred block.

  21. fleettwood
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    But, since you don’t live here, you wouldn’t know that.

  22. Posted December 13, 2006 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    “the throwing of Oreo cookies”

    fleettwood loves right-wing myths, and loves to insist things happened even when he cannot prove it.

  23. fleettwood
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    We’ve already gone over this. You know that it happened. It only makes sense that it did.It probably wasn’t a “shower” of Oreos, but how many does it take to show the bigotry of the Lib who let it fly.It wouldn’t have to be whole bucket of KFC chicken thrown at a Black candidate who is liberal. I think one chicken leg would be enough for you to go nuts.You should at least be consistant.

  24. Posted December 13, 2006 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    “You know that it happened.”

    No, I don’t. And you haven’t proven that even ONE Oreo was thrown.

    Why do you insist that what seems to be a myth is a fact?

  25. Ben Huie
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    cosmos - didn’t you know that if fleettwood repeats it often enough it becomes truth?

  26. Posted December 13, 2006 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Ben,

    All fleettwood can do is keep repeating the myth, because he can’t provide any proof that it’s true.

  27. political_mom
    Posted December 13, 2006 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    Fleet it was reported that he was caught AT MCDONALDs. SO WHAT if Popeyes was on the same block.