Comments on: Brownback’s ‘big tent’ too small for gay commitment ceremonies?

By: Jed

Jed — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:49:37 +0000

JimG,Instinctual perceptions? Aren’t those what Einstein described as a set of prejudices instilled before the age of eighteen?Whatever they are, they aren’t instinctual any more than the prejudices about any group- “They have to be carefully taught!” I wasn’t, and I grew up with gay and lesbian friends who meant the world to me, and I’ve had many since. I learned a long time ago to separate image from substance!

By: Jim G.

Jim G. — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:07:11 +0000

Pol Mom, in all seriousness. Whenever I encounter someone who tells me they are a Christian I immediately suspect they are a confused bigoted irrational fuckstick.And, you know what? They usually are.I think the term ‘Christian’ is now just part of being a club.I don’t really care if someone has a ‘personal’ relationship with Jesus, or that they recognize Jesus as their savior. Really, if it is personal, then why bring that shit up all the time.I don’t run around telling people I am gay – 1) it doesn’t make sense to do it, 2) it’s like saying ‘I hate Jesus’ to most ‘Christians.’Give me a break. Christians stew in their own hypocrisy just like the rest of us. Christians just like to believe they are forgiven.Show me a person who pronounces their Christianity and I’ll show you a liar and a thief.

By: Jim G.

Jim G. — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:02:12 +0000

Jed,I am stating instinctual perceptions. This isn’t about attitudes. Haven’t you the balls to state your instinctual perceptions? My attitude is pretty cut and dried, don’t you think. Be free and don’t tread on me. Simple stuff.As for the damn gays, those sneaky hidden poofs, well, I am one.

By: kansassam

kansassam — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:32:34 +0000

JimGWhat Jed said! And the same goes with Christians. If you use the stereotypes that are thrown around on the blogs, you will not even recognize most who take on that name. I have known a few that the shoe fits… but not very many.

By: Jed

Jed — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:15:30 +0000

JimG,You’re thinking in stereotypes again. I know gay people of just about every size, complexion and sense of style. The ones with lisps are few and far beteen- probably less than straight people with lisps! You could get to know over 90% of them, and never guess they were gay unless they told you. Given your apparent attitude toward gay people, most wouldn’t consider telling you! That’s the problem with stereotypes.

By: political_mom

political_mom — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:34:33 +0000

I think you’re wrong. If a gang of white hooligan looking guys approach you, you’re gonna be scared too. I don’t get afraid around black guys that look friendly, often I don’t even notice that they are black.

Of course, there is a style that looking like a thug is popular, so DUH you’re gonna get that kind of attention.

By: Jim G.

Jim G. — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:54:32 +0000

I know black people, my point is that I don’t have a read either/way on what a black christian looks like. I was too vague, sorry. Anyway, my point is that these are my perceptions….anyone on this blog who claims to not have perceptions is a politically correct weasel.Take profiling for example – why do white peeps get nervous around black peeps – cuz black peeps are shooting each other and white peeps don’t want to get shot.That’s not racism, that’s self-protection, it is innate.Furthermore, why would I know, as in be friends with, black people. I have worked for three different companies in this area, and have maintained friendships with folks from each job. My friends are white…because there were no black people working at these companies that I could develop friendships with….Secondly, I don’t have a read on black folk because I am not experienced with black culture.Yeah, I know some black people, but none well enough to call my friend.Do I give a shit? not really. Why, because I don’t need to give a shit. What difference does the color of a persons skin make? Not much. It’s the cultural/societal differences that create the divide. I’m not down with rap/r&b, I’m not down with black language, I’m not down with black entertainment, I am not down with black pasttimes.Why? because I am white and have been raised in a white culture.Do I give a shit? no. Why? Why should I?Can a black person come over to check out the white culture? sure. Can I go over to his culture? sure.Why should I? Sure as hell not going to do it just to make anyone happy.Would I enjoy having a black friend? absolutely. I had some very good but short friendships while in the military.Was there a big difference between black friends and white friends…not really, except we had a hard time relating to each others culture…hard to fit in.Does this matter? No. Why, because this is America and we are free to mingle or not. Who gives a shit? Not me.The constitution should be the guiding principle. If we aren’t all getting equal treatment then we need to speak up to help each other until everyone gets respect. Does this mean I carry a flag for blacks? hell no. They need to get there on their own…or else it won’t mean the same to them once they get there. Will I stand in there way? hell no.I don’t give a shit.I wonder what percentage of American white male attitudes I represent?

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:35:56 +0000

“In fact, I have a standard answer for people who ask what we do in bed, too. It goes like this:

“The same things you do. Just better and longer.”"

Pleeze forgive me, but I am tiping this won handed.Hot girl-on-girl action.

By: TRACY

TRACY — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:42:04 +0000

Oh and another correction KFG.Although the tent in his pants was funny...even funnier is his picture with an AFRO!http://www.theantisam.com/ Take the link JimG, if you know Sammy then you do too know an afro something, not quite sure what.

By: CrusaderX

CrusaderX — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:38:37 +0000

Do others have this perception – if you meet a tall, thin, pale white man, with a short haircut…he has a higher chance of being a fundamental christian.

Either that, or the military (because of the short haircut) I must admit that I think men with long hair are either hippie drug addict junkies, or athiest black-metal musicians.

By: CK

CK — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:36:11 +0000

Oh come on. Who can be surprised about Condi? She was in a committed relationship with a woman while the Vice Provost at Stanford University (I was an undergrad at the time).

The hypocrisy of those close to Bush is so ludicrous. They are just pandering to conservatives on the gay issues.

By: CrusaderX

CrusaderX — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:36:02 +0000

You don’t know any black people? Where the hell do you live?

By: TRACY

TRACY — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:32:29 +0000

KFG, the correct answer is:(drum roll)We do everything Mom wishes you would do, but don’t!!HA!

By: SOB

SOB — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:43:20 +0000

Has this Jim G person always been, well, “asshole-ish”…if that’s a word.

By: Jim G.

Jim G. — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:39:27 +0000

Some personal observations:Do others have this perception – if you meet a tall, thin, pale white man, with a short haircut…he has a higher chance of being a fundamental christian.But if you meet a short, chubby pale white man you are inclined to think that he turned to Christianity and that he carries a lot of anger inside.And if you meet a tanned white man who proclaims he is Christian – you just don’t feel you should trust him?Rarely do I meet tall chubby white men who are strong Christians.I do not know any black people so I’ll have to leave that one up to others.???

By: Jim G.

Jim G. — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:35:11 +0000

Dubya’s dismal “Christian” hoax assures ‘thinking’ people that there is no possible way to espouse their high Christian principles and be a politician, nor can one espouse their high Christian principles and govern as our Constitution states without thinking their understanding of the bible means more than our silly ole Constitution.Brownback is crapping on the Constitution in the name of his bible.Plus, he just looks like one of those goofy Christians, doesn’t he?

By: rm6046

rm6046 — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:07:52 +0000

*** snakes, sorry!

By: rm6046

rm6046 — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:03:04 +0000

I brought this up earlier, in another thread, but, at the risk of being redundant, I repeat. “It’s a big tent, and, being the clown, he should know!” Moving on, who gives a damn. If you are straight, you are straight. If you are gay, you are gay. If you are bi-, you are bi-. If you are sheep-, you are sheep. How does this matter, outside your bedroom/barn? Why is this an issue? Brownback could care less if you screw turtles, consentually, if you would vote for him! Thanks, Sam, I like women, and I wouldn’t vote for your phony bullshit, if you were the only idiot running! P.S.: I have heard, hearsay of course, that Sam like sanles, size-wise! Not to qoute me, however!

By: political_mom

political_mom — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:56:29 +0000

Sam will lose, I’m not worried. I might have been worried before Dubya took over, but not now.

By: Vaughn Tolle

Vaughn Tolle — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:54:43 +0000

My read of the opening post suggests that what Sen. Brownback wants Judge Neff to do is to assure him that she will not hear any same sex marriage cases, and is using the attendance at the commitment ceremony as a red herring. Of course, no judge who deserves to be a judge, can make the promise sought; which leads to the conclusion that Sen. Brownback is merely playing to the crowd, in preparation for the presidential run.

By: Jed

Jed — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:52:31 +0000

Well of course he doesn’t want her to hear same-sex marriage cases; he doesn’t want anybody to hear them!

By: outlander

outlander — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:43:33 +0000

I doubt this is the whole story about Brownback’s reasons for holding up this judge’s nomination. But if he really is doing it just because she attended a gay commitment ceremony, I don’t think that most folks will find that reasonable.

By: SolDevVB

SolDevVB — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:37:30 +0000

eeewwwwww. Homo cooties.

Just kidding Farm Girl

By: SOB

SOB — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:34:03 +0000

Thanks farm girl. I will imagine you as a hot young thing in bed with your other hot young thing.

By: Doug

Doug — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:30:48 +0000

This is the same Brownback who held up a judge nomination because she simply attended a lesbian wedding ceremony. Republicans might chant flip-flopper until our ears bleed but I’ll just call Brownback a hypocrite.