Democrats weren’t the only big winners Tuesday; so were women. Though it’s still far from representative, women now have 70 seats in the U.S. House, 16 Senate seats and nine governorships. And, of course, Nancy Pelosi (in photo) is set to become the first woman speaker of the House.
One possible factor influencing the gains, other than the quality of the candidates: Vivian Eveloff, director of the Sue Shear Institute for Women in Public Life at the University of Missouri, told National Public Radio that voters tend to regard women as an antidote to corruption.
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Cool!
YAY YAY YAY. Women have been way underrepresented in Government, it’s about time we made some great gains.
Next is the first female president.
It’s sad that we spout off about being so much about women’s rights, and yet, other countries even 3rd world countries have women leaders.
And might I add, women still make 74 cents to the dollar of men.
JR
So what are your feelings on having a hyper-wealthy union busting buiness woman as Speaker of the House?
Go women.I like women.
Nice statistic, Mom. Want to look at it a little more deeply?
One example, my ex wife earned less than half what I did. By her choice, she worked part time. Yet, her “lowered earning” is figured into that famous comparison.
Your quotation can be considered just a little misleading, until all the facts are taken into account…facts such as part time, occasional, and temporary jobs.
There is no evidence that Pelosi ever “busted” a union, rather her businesses: a winery, a restaurant chain, and a hotel do not have unions for their employees.
http://www.goofigure.com/UserGoofigureDetail.asp?gooID=5738
I looked up her businesses via google. They looked like higher end places. Maybe her employees don’t need union protection because they are paid well enough. Couldn’t find any help wanted ads for her businesses that would have answered this latter question.
This looks like a right-wing attack with inaccurate and unfounded allegations to me.
Hey Steve…ever hear of the “pot calling the kettle black’? You make the accusation of “right wing attack with inaccurate and unfounded allegations” right after saying:
“Maybe her employees don’t need union protection because they are paid well enough”
Nice unfounded allegation yourself. Is it ok for you to make unfounded allegations while you cast stones at those who you think are doing the exact same thing?
Steve
“This looks like a right-wing attack with inaccurate and unfounded allegations to me.”
No, just a gratuitous attempt at yanking JR’s chain. I see I got your inadvertantly.
As for Moms stat’s , they are very bogus. They compare Womens earnings versus Mens, straight across, without compensating for experience and education.
When the earnings of men and women with equal education and experience in a particular field women’s numbers are slightly higher than mens.
It’s a stat that’s meant to be misleading.
Indira Ghandi, Gold Mier – outstanding female heads of state. Oh yeah, Maggie Thatcher, uh, hard for me to praise her about anything.
heckler,
“No, just a gratuitous attempt at yanking JR’s chain. I see I got your inadvertantly.”
Get it from an unreliable source? Newsmax?
You don’t have anything to support your claim that Pelosi is a union buster?
You don’t know what the employees at Auberge du Soleil and Piatti are paid?
So basically you cannot support your false posts, and you have no credibilty.
Since when has the GOP been interested in the fate of unions? Traditionally, Republicans have been the friends of the CEOs, not the unions. Democrats are traditionally the labor party.
“Nice unfounded allegation yourself.”
Notice the word “maybe” in the front of that sentence? Where I come from that makes the statement conditional on things unknown. In other words, it is speculation. It is not something I am asserting. I tried to find want ads for the businesses that I could then compare to other salaries – couldn’t find them. Thus my inability to make the statement above with certainty.
No wonder you guys can’t win an argument. You don’t seem to understand the english language very well.
For example I could have said,”Raptor is dumb”.
But, in truth I don’t know that, so I might say in probablistic way, “Maybe, Raptor is dumb”.
To be truthful, with the bogus argument you make above, you are starting to remove the doubts in my mind about the first statement.
How very adult..to make personal attacks when someone points out a fallacy of your “reasoning”
“Maybe” is a conditional term, usually used with some thought regarding a higher chance of it being true than false. What possible credence can you ascribe to your earlier statement about well paid employees?
Besides, unions are about a lot more than wages.
Ah..why bother. No use in trying to carry on a discussion with someone who prefers to resort to juvenile name calling and personal attacks.
I am sorry to all you ladies, but given my opinions of politicians I don’t see women being in politics as a step forward for them.
Prove it then Heckler instead of just saying it. I can absolutely back up my statements.
Raptor, you too…
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0193820.html
That is based on FULL time work all year.
Occupations in which the majority of workers are women :Registered nurse 91% 88%Social worker 71 92Admin. support, including clerical 77 80Teachers, except college and universities 74 81
The first number is the percent that are women in that field. The second number is the percentage of pay vs men.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922479.htmlNOTE women physicians earn just barely more than HALF of men.
Minority women fare the worst. African-American women earn just 68 cents to every dollar earned by white men, and for Hispanic women that figure drops to merely 57 cents per dollar.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that in 2004 female physicians and surgeons earned 52.2% of the median weekly wages of male physicians, and women in sales occupations earned just 62.1% of men’s wages in equivalent positions.
If working women earned the same as men (those who work the same number of hours; have the same education, age, and union status; and live in the same region of the country), their annual family incomes would rise by $4,000 and poverty rates would be cut in half.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswom2003.pdf
If you bother to look, it shows very clearly that it compares women who work FULL time with the EXACT education and experience.
My arent we all defensive about poor old Nancy.
DID ANY OF YOU PEOPLE HEAR ME SAY “just a gratuitous attempt at yanking JR’s chain”
Grow a fucking sense of humor COSMOS.
And Political Mom, the piece of crap stat regarding womens wages versus mens is actually worse than the one I made about Pelosi. Yours was manufactured by feminists for the exact purpose of decieving people.
Political Mom
And you keep leaving out work experience in a given field. Why do you do that? You have to know it’s relevant.
To show what liars the Concerned Women for America are…look at their rationale for why women make less than men.
“However, what they aren’t telling you is that this so-called inequity fails to take into account factors that may adversely effect women’s income. The level of education, field of employment, years of consecutive work experience, and women’s personal choices must be considered when comparing incomes. For example, the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth found that when comparing the earnings of people who have never had children, women’s earnings approach 98 percent of men’s earnings.”
PM inserting…oh really…well anyone can click on that link I provided and see it VERY CLEARLY addresses those very things, they even have tables and graphs outlining by profession, by age.
“A Concerned Women For America study titled, “Comparable Worth/Pay Equity: Sacrificing Equal Opportunity” found that women have the opportunity to earn as much as men, but they often have different goals and values. The fact that more women work in lower-paying professions is not due to rampant discrimination, as the feminists charge. Many women choose such professions voluntarily because they have decided to keep their families the top priority in their lives.”
I guess that accounts for the wage difference in doctor salaries?
Feminism: the last bastion of the angry, bitter woman.
Really Heckler? That was based on a government study…like I said, had you bothered to look.
Political Mom
Go look at your study. Does it compare doctors with the SAME NUMBER OF YEARS IN THEIR FIELD?
Leaving out work experience? Are you nuts? Do you have any idea how many women work full time jobs all throughout their lives and take very little time away for families? At least no more than a CEO’s six week vacation per year. Your logic is absurd and rather demeaning.
Having children shouldn’t be a punishment for pay equity.
How many women worked their way up from 16, compared to the college frat boys who never worked a day in their lives until after they graduated college? Puhlease.
You know, women have a higher threshold for pain than men. It has been said that if women were as physically strong as men, that they would kick our asses.
Just a thought.
Well I guess I missed hecklers invitation to dance. Just as well. He always cuts out before the music stops…..you KNOW like he did here?
I’m glad others took ol no facts heckler to task.
Hey Heckler? Those Pelosi employs are not organized. THAT is true. There could be any number of reasons for this. Calling her a “union buster” implies alot more.
Got and docs or photos or evidence of Nancy Pelosi actually busting a union? No? Well then you will be retracting that?
And I’m supposed to have a problem with the fact that she is wealthy? Heckler you’ve misjudged me! I don’t hate rich people.
I hate greedy people.
Nancy Pelosi has vowed to raise the Federa minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step, and within a 100 hours of taking the gavel.
Mr Heeckler? I KNOW your position on the minimum wage. Why don’t you share it with our good readers? YOU KNOW, so they can get where you are coming from when you attack Nancy Pelosi?
JR,What’s Pelosi doing about illegal immigration!?
Nothing.
Just thinking out loud.
That is some shallow thinking on P. Brownlee’s post. Women are ‘big winners’? Woman are given the same rights as men and have the same opprotunity as anyone else in this country run for office.
Besides, maybe a few more women at the editorial board would make you a little less hypocritical. Why don’t you go on strike until the proper gender/racial/sexual makeup of the editorial board is implimented.
It’s the only moral thing to do, right Phillip?
That’s why we’ve still not had a woman president nor non-white male president?…because everyone has the same opportunity, right?
Hahaha! While we’re at this incredulous “politically correct” argument, why don’t we make the Eagle editorial board more culturally, sexually, and ethnically representative of the USA!? Hmmmm. Ok to achieve that we’d have to fire everybody, on the board and give a position to a person belonging to each and every country in the world? The ratio of men to women will be 50/50, as well as the homosexual to heterosexual ratio, as well as the transgender to heterosexual ratio. Oh and white people MUST have the lowest paying positions. After all, we’ve got to strive to appear as an Equal Opportunity Employer don’t we?
:)
Peemom,Let them have a woman president! She’s just gonna be another puppet of the lobbyists anyway, but at least you’ll feel better eh?:)
I would feel fabulous if we had a woman president. As long as she wasn’t someone like Kay O’Conner or Kathryn Harris or Ann Coulter who are hypocrites and who speak against women in power.
All three of them speak out against women in power for what? Is it the fact that that they speak out against women who hold opposite political ideologies, or do they speak out against those women in power simply because they’re in power?
Pelosi employs wetbacks on her family vineyards so don’t expect her to do s.f.a about immigration.
The only thing more stupid than voting against one’s economic self interest is voting against ones’s racial self interest.
Welcome to Weimar America!
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!!
It seems in adressing Mr Heckler I missed the gist of the thread.
Maybe I can use that to make a point.
It doesn’t matter who she is or what her politics are. Though I COULD argue that conservative women seem more pre-disposed to being servile and not taking leadership roles. Thus the proportion of conservative women in politics will likely always be small.
What matters to the point of historic is that she is a woman.
I think heckler said once that he had a young daughter. I know Julie does. I have a 12 year old son.
Come January, these kids will be living in a world where a woman can be Speaker of the House of representatives of the United States! They will never remember much a world where that was not “normal”.
I don’t know a lot about Nancy Pelosi. She is on my side of thinking, So she is ok by me. But if she has any sense of just what a historic figure she will be, I think she will try to be a good or even great role model. When was the last time we had a Speaker or any politician who felt that obligation?
While everybody is applauding the fact that a woman is gonna be the Speaker for the House of Representatives, I ask if Nancy Pelosi is QUALIFIED for the job. What’s her track record while on the 8th Circuit? How does she feel about the big issues like healthcare, the deficit, immigration etc etc. What I’m seeing here is the Barak Obama effect. People think “oh, Obama/Pelosi are different” “that’s definitely something to be proud of.”Well you know what? Women and black people can be bought, cuz everybody… EVERYBODY HAS A PRICE.
It’s time women took over running the world, men have f**ked things up for far too long.
Sorry Will, just becuase you can be bought doesn’t mean everyone has the same lack of values.”It doesn’t matter what you make, all you can take when you leave this world is what you’ve given”.
heckler,
“Grow a fucking sense of humor COSMOS.”
I’ve got a GREAT sense of humor.
Please explain the “humor” of falsely accusing the honorable Speaker Pelosi of being a union buster.
Newsmax is trying to spread it (Steven’s link above).
Is the “humor” the time wasted debunking your (as usual) BS post?
Or maybe the “humor” is that it’s your new MO here? It looks like you posted the BS from Newsmax, and when caught, claim, ‘ohhh… it was only a joke’.
IMHO, your sources, and your opinions are the (sad and very damaging) “jokes”.
Speaking of women in political office, remember what a disaster Joan Finney was? As my now ex-wife said, We finally get a woman elected governor and look what she turns out to be.
How very adult..to make personal attacks when someone points out a fallacy of your “reasoning”.
Mr. Raptor,
Your ignorance is so very telling… Please explain to me how you have made your point.
You have not. You know and all reading these posts, know the same thing.
Come on. Please make your point. I know you can’t. You know you can’t. Give up, you dumb butt.
Thank you…
I have nothing more to say to an immature whiner who resorts to name calling and personal insults.
Go to hell, you jerk.
“It’s time women took over running the world, men have f**ked things up for far too long.”
Here, here, Mary!!
Nancy Pelosi is not even in office yet and the GOP are foaming at the mouth. Last time I checked, the Democrats won the Senate by very slim margin – doesn’t that mean that bipartisanship will have to be somewhat achieved to get things actually done?
Why not wait and see what happens before you jump down the woman’s throat? But then, Rush, Hannity and Coulter needs to get their new spins going to keep their millions of dollars rolling in from their sheeple.
LMAO instead of trying to defend his point, he stomps off pouting like a little BIOTCH ROFLMAO!
Omg that’s just priceless. And it shows I’m right…as usual lol!
Based upon exactly WHAT do some see “women as an antidote to corruption”? The temptation of corruption is a human trait – it is inherent in us. As an earler post put it, we ALL have a price; we even find ways to rationalize what we do.
So just what makes some think that gender is somehow different in that regard?
Murtha has way too much big time dirty laundry!
Email Nancy Pelosi and suggest let the women run the show for a change!http://www.house.gov/pelosi/contact/contact.html
Lynn Woolsyhttp://woolsey.house.gov/contactemailform.asp
Tammy Baldwinhttp://www.house.gov/formbaldwin/IMA/get_address.htm
Julia Carsonhttp://www.juliacarson.house.gov/
Nancy Boydahttp://www.nancyforcongress.com/issues.php
If not select Dennis Kucinich to run the house.
Dennis Kucinichhttp://kucinich.house.gov/
Women are often busy raising children, juggling family schedules, work, and general quality of life issues. Almost everyone has heard the phrase, “Whoever rocks the cradle rules the world.” So why have women given up their rights to voice their opinions and the power of voting?
The fact that millions of women do not vote says they have abdicated and submitted their lives to the decisions and power of predominately male managed world governments. Why? If 57% of registered voters are women, why do they not represent 57% of the votes cast in an election? Why do women not register to vote? Do they think the men in society know how to run the government and social programs better than they? I don’t think so!
Every woman who has raised children, juggled schedules, balanced budgets, made do with available resources, held a job, and managed a home is certainly more than qualified to hold government office, make solid policy decisions, and to certainly vote for qualified candidates—not based on “soccer mom fear”, but on intelligent choices for the best candidate for office.
I cannot imagine a single valid reason for a registered woman to not vote on November 7th. You know that we can all find time for what we want to do regardless of our busy schedule, so lets see a 57% showing of women voters in America!
Unless all women step forward to bring about change and end the corruption and incompetence in government, bring our sons and daughters home from a endless and invalid “war” with only continued death and destruction, work to change policies that have diminished our middle class and economy and the ever growing divide between the “haves” and “have-nots”, what will you tell your children and grandchildren?
I didn’t have time to vote or I didn’t care enough about your future to vote?