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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94503</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and don&#039;t worry about Ian.He&#039;s just a scared inbred mutt.You know that barking dogs like him aren&#039;t mean, they bark because they are afraid.

Sol, I think that the combination of your screen name and your email address together should be unique enough.If another Tracy shows up and wants to post as tracy, that&#039;s fine. The email would tell ya&#039; who&#039;s who? Ya&#039; think?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and don&#8217;t worry about Ian.He&#8217;s just a scared inbred mutt.You know that barking dogs like him aren&#8217;t mean, they bark because they are afraid.</p>
<p>Sol, I think that the combination of your screen name and your email address together should be unique enough.If another Tracy shows up and wants to post as tracy, that&#8217;s fine. The email would tell ya&#8217; who&#8217;s who? Ya&#8217; think?</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94502</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WS, I&#039;m a father, grandfather, son, husband, etc.I don&#039;t blame you at all for being very careful.I, for one, will not live in fear of boogeymen and unknowns in the future.I started posting by real name on other blogs, and when I found this one, I couldn&#039;t see changing.I want to be the same from blog to blog.That way others (like fuzznuts) can hate me wherever I comment.If you ever send me email, I would never forward or misuse it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WS, I&#8217;m a father, grandfather, son, husband, etc.I don&#8217;t blame you at all for being very careful.I, for one, will not live in fear of boogeymen and unknowns in the future.I started posting by real name on other blogs, and when I found this one, I couldn&#8217;t see changing.I want to be the same from blog to blog.That way others (like fuzznuts) can hate me wherever I comment.If you ever send me email, I would never forward or misuse it.</p>
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		<title>By: SolDevVB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94501</link>
		<dc:creator>SolDevVB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So again, it comes down to a unique screen name and password. Other fields can be optional. I don&#039;t even think an email should be manditory. That way you stop the trollies.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So again, it comes down to a unique screen name and password. Other fields can be optional. I don&#8217;t even think an email should be manditory. That way you stop the trollies.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94500</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first week or two I posted, I used my whole name.

But my last name is rather uncommon. There are only two others with my last name in the phone book.  One is my mother the other my younger brother. MY name and number are not listed.

Both my mom AND my brother have recieved harrassing calls because of my posts here and my occasional letter to the editor. Though they do not mind and are all to happy to tell such folks just where to go, I do not want them bothered because I get under some kooks skin.

I use my initials.....some of them anyway.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first week or two I posted, I used my whole name.</p>
<p>But my last name is rather uncommon. There are only two others with my last name in the phone book.  One is my mother the other my younger brother. MY name and number are not listed.</p>
<p>Both my mom AND my brother have recieved harrassing calls because of my posts here and my occasional letter to the editor. Though they do not mind and are all to happy to tell such folks just where to go, I do not want them bothered because I get under some kooks skin.</p>
<p>I use my initials&#8230;..some of them anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm ...</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94499</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points rage and WSC
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94498</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will use my REAL name, William Stephenson Clark, but I won&#039;t give our too much personal info to protect my family. I can take care of myself (talking to you, Ian) but my family, even though they share my philosophies, do not need to be harassed because of something their father or grandfather has posted.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will use my REAL name, William Stephenson Clark, but I won&#8217;t give our too much personal info to protect my family. I can take care of myself (talking to you, Ian) but my family, even though they share my philosophies, do not need to be harassed because of something their father or grandfather has posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94497</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t use my real name for three simple reasons:

1) I like to keep this separate from my &quot;real&quot; life. I&#039;ve posted in similarly public forums under my own name in the past. It&#039;s more convenience than fear (though keep in mind Michelle Malkin&#039;s stunt). But I&#039;ll share my real identity with anyone I trust enough to behave like a human being.

2) If someone libels me, and I don&#039;t catch it, they just libeled &quot;Rage.&quot; Big deal.

3) I have been involved with several organizations over the years (including my time here), and I do not want my off-the-cuff views erroneously (and deliberately) attributed to them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use my real name for three simple reasons:</p>
<p>1) I like to keep this separate from my &#8220;real&#8221; life. I&#8217;ve posted in similarly public forums under my own name in the past. It&#8217;s more convenience than fear (though keep in mind Michelle Malkin&#8217;s stunt). But I&#8217;ll share my real identity with anyone I trust enough to behave like a human being.</p>
<p>2) If someone libels me, and I don&#8217;t catch it, they just libeled &#8220;Rage.&#8221; Big deal.</p>
<p>3) I have been involved with several organizations over the years (including my time here), and I do not want my off-the-cuff views erroneously (and deliberately) attributed to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94496</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sol-I&#039;ve heard that story about Pershing also.Don&#039;t know if it&#039;s an urban myth or true.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sol-I&#8217;ve heard that story about Pershing also.Don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s an urban myth or true.</p>
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		<title>By: SolDevVB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94495</link>
		<dc:creator>SolDevVB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in the Army for ten years (almost ten years ago now :-(  )

That is where I originaly heard it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the Army for ten years (almost ten years ago now :-(  )</p>
<p>That is where I originaly heard it.</p>
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		<title>By: SolDevVB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94494</link>
		<dc:creator>SolDevVB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I was wrong. It wasn&#039;t Patton but Pershing. Looked it up on SNOPES and got &quot;Undertermined&quot;.

I&#039;ll look for more on Muslims in phil. in a bit. Need to earn a pay check some time today :-)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I was wrong. It wasn&#8217;t Patton but Pershing. Looked it up on SNOPES and got &#8220;Undertermined&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll look for more on Muslims in phil. in a bit. Need to earn a pay check some time today :-)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94493</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well see that&#039;s why I didn&#039;t name ya sol.

I coulda went back and found the nic of the poster and shared it above if I thought you were REALLY over the top. You&#039;ll note I did not say WTF? on that thread.

As you posted it, I got that you were more trying to channel Patton than document him. BUT there was enough &quot;sincerity&quot; to get my attention. I know alot about Patton. I had never heard of him being in the Phillipines. TOO, islamic terrorism woulda been really unheard of prior to World War II.

LOL I did A LOT of looking for some proof of that one! I wouldn&#039;t bother looking any further if I were you. The best I found was something said in a chat room!

WOULD Patton have done such a thing? We can speculate. But it should be noted as speculation.

You owned up to it on your own and that speaks well. Mild rap on the knuckles.

Still, we should be careful posting about real people and events. You can damage somones reputation....or your own.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well see that&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t name ya sol.</p>
<p>I coulda went back and found the nic of the poster and shared it above if I thought you were REALLY over the top. You&#8217;ll note I did not say WTF? on that thread.</p>
<p>As you posted it, I got that you were more trying to channel Patton than document him. BUT there was enough &#8220;sincerity&#8221; to get my attention. I know alot about Patton. I had never heard of him being in the Phillipines. TOO, islamic terrorism woulda been really unheard of prior to World War II.</p>
<p>LOL I did A LOT of looking for some proof of that one! I wouldn&#8217;t bother looking any further if I were you. The best I found was something said in a chat room!</p>
<p>WOULD Patton have done such a thing? We can speculate. But it should be noted as speculation.</p>
<p>You owned up to it on your own and that speaks well. Mild rap on the knuckles.</p>
<p>Still, we should be careful posting about real people and events. You can damage somones reputation&#8230;.or your own.</p>
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		<title>By: SolDevVB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94492</link>
		<dc:creator>SolDevVB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,That post about Patton was mine. Didn&#039;t read it on line I just heard the same story several times from different sources. I&#039;ll try to find a link for you.

Anyway, the point of that thread was that in most cases, if you are not as vigilant in a fight as your opponent is, you are likely to lose.

Either way, this was not a blatant lie or a lie for a purpose. I prefaced it with &#8220;I think&#8221; so it lost it&#039;s &#8220;This Is A Fact&#8221; flavor immediately.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR,That post about Patton was mine. Didn&#8217;t read it on line I just heard the same story several times from different sources. I&#8217;ll try to find a link for you.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point of that thread was that in most cases, if you are not as vigilant in a fight as your opponent is, you are likely to lose.</p>
<p>Either way, this was not a blatant lie or a lie for a purpose. I prefaced it with &ldquo;I think&rdquo; so it lost it&#8217;s &ldquo;This Is A Fact&rdquo; flavor immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94491</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, I agree. That&#039;s why I do use my name.If I&#039;m too scared, ashamed, nervous, etc. about what I write being associated with me,well maybe I oughta save those thoughts for a more private venue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, I agree. That&#8217;s why I do use my name.If I&#8217;m too scared, ashamed, nervous, etc. about what I write being associated with me,well maybe I oughta save those thoughts for a more private venue.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94490</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not too long ago there was a troll who posted a regular poster&#039;s home address and home phone number.  I appreciated it that Dave took care of that one as fast as he did.

I agree that the occasional insult from a troll is no big deal.  However, posting information like addresses, phone numbers crosses the line.  I would favor IP blocks on these latter trolls.  That would at least make it difficult for them to do their stuff.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too long ago there was a troll who posted a regular poster&#8217;s home address and home phone number.  I appreciated it that Dave took care of that one as fast as he did.</p>
<p>I agree that the occasional insult from a troll is no big deal.  However, posting information like addresses, phone numbers crosses the line.  I would favor IP blocks on these latter trolls.  That would at least make it difficult for them to do their stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94489</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, thanks Dave for your view.

Political_mom,I have posted at the meadowlark blog, too.  I used ridicule meadowlark to the point that he threatened to delete my postings, but he never did do that.  I post there as &quot;just wondering&quot; - Meadowlark kinda of outed me by welcoming me to Salina - but I did not really care.

Interestingly, though I disagree with much of Meadowlark&#039;s positions, I have found myself agreeing with his position of injecting sunshine on campaign financing.  I think such can only help politicians be more accountable to their constituents.

However, p-mom, I don&#039;t get this sentiment you express: &quot;I wouldn&#039;t express half of my opinions if I had to sign my name to it.&quot;  Can you explain this?  I hold the view that I can&#039;t be too attached to an opinion that I wouldn&#039;t sign my name to.  Hope that makes sense.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, thanks Dave for your view.</p>
<p>Political_mom,I have posted at the meadowlark blog, too.  I used ridicule meadowlark to the point that he threatened to delete my postings, but he never did do that.  I post there as &#8220;just wondering&#8221; &#8211; Meadowlark kinda of outed me by welcoming me to Salina &#8211; but I did not really care.</p>
<p>Interestingly, though I disagree with much of Meadowlark&#8217;s positions, I have found myself agreeing with his position of injecting sunshine on campaign financing.  I think such can only help politicians be more accountable to their constituents.</p>
<p>However, p-mom, I don&#8217;t get this sentiment you express: &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t express half of my opinions if I had to sign my name to it.&#8221;  Can you explain this?  I hold the view that I can&#8217;t be too attached to an opinion that I wouldn&#8217;t sign my name to.  Hope that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Santiago</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94488</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be in afvor of registration so as to do away with trolling coconuts. IP addys are very easy to conceal so that would not work. Civility and moderation are for suckers, let passion reign!

PS: Everyone is invited to the Santiago compound for Guiness and billiards.PPS: Keep the fan mail and hate mail coming.

Viva La Raza Blanco!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be in afvor of registration so as to do away with trolling coconuts. IP addys are very easy to conceal so that would not work. Civility and moderation are for suckers, let passion reign!</p>
<p>PS: Everyone is invited to the Santiago compound for Guiness and billiards.PPS: Keep the fan mail and hate mail coming.</p>
<p>Viva La Raza Blanco!!</p>
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		<title>By: political_mom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94487</link>
		<dc:creator>political_mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, the Salina Journal has a rule for it&#039;s moderators, we must give them our real identity, then we&#039;re free to post under any name we choose.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the Salina Journal has a rule for it&#8217;s moderators, we must give them our real identity, then we&#8217;re free to post under any name we choose.</p>
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		<title>By: political_mom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94486</link>
		<dc:creator>political_mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind registration, but I think we should be able to protect our anonymity, there is a real need for that.  I wouldn&#039;t express half of my opinions if I had to sign my name to it.

Now that&#039;s not to say people don&#039;t know who I am, but I get to choose who I reveal myself to.  There are some real psychos out there I don&#039;t care knowing who I am.

On the salina journal blog, many of us have met face to face.  And it still gets JUST as heated in there.  I will admit it&#039;s harder to call someone an idiot after you&#039;ve met them in real life though.  Then again, sometimes it&#039;s far easier lol.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind registration, but I think we should be able to protect our anonymity, there is a real need for that.  I wouldn&#8217;t express half of my opinions if I had to sign my name to it.</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s not to say people don&#8217;t know who I am, but I get to choose who I reveal myself to.  There are some real psychos out there I don&#8217;t care knowing who I am.</p>
<p>On the salina journal blog, many of us have met face to face.  And it still gets JUST as heated in there.  I will admit it&#8217;s harder to call someone an idiot after you&#8217;ve met them in real life though.  Then again, sometimes it&#8217;s far easier lol.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94485</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear Dave!

I do like my free fire! And I take as well as give.

Well...

MY email address has ALWAYS been &quot;live&quot;.

I got some nasty anonymous hate mail VERY early on.....like more than a year ago. But I also get the occasional &quot;fan&quot; or source of information.

The &quot;kansasman&quot; incident is MY fault. I mis-read a letter. Thing is though? Even in THAT mistake I asked kansasSAM why he seemed to be posting out of the ordinary. Rage quickly caught and corrected the mistake.

And that&#039;s the point. The regulars here are SO familiar that they get &quot;nic switch&quot; trolled hyperbolically and with misinformation. This is probably by a reader or infrequent poster with an axe to grind and no reputation to defend. Who can I pick on for an example....?

Ok Tracy

(Since he gets picked on so much lately anyway)

If most of us see &quot;Tracy&quot; post:  &quot;I&#039;m just a bitter old woman, don&#039;t listen to me.&quot;

Well we KNOW that it aint the real Tracy. So the offending troll gets jumped on, usually goes away or sometimes provides an &quot;entertaining&quot; sideshow of their own.

Newbies usually learn the ropes pretty quick. I myself try to help them as I can as I am sure many of us do.

BUT

What DOES bother me is the occasional wild assertion of fact. We DO have readers. We should be responsible in posting or work hard as we can to discredit wild assertions.

Again an example...

I saw a new poster post to the effect that &quot;Patton know how to deal with Islamic terrorists. He once had 50 of them dig holes in front of posts. Then he had 50 hogs shot, dipped bullets in the hog blood, shot 49 of the terrorists with the dipped bullets, and let the last terrorist go to tell the tale.&quot;

Anybody else see that one?

I did MULTIPLE searches looking for SOME truth to that post. I found NOTHING.

But with this also, we are pretty good at policing our own. MOST wild assertions, half truths or outright lies can be quickly dispatched. And usually they are.

It aint broke. Don&#039;t &quot;fix&quot; it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear Dave!</p>
<p>I do like my free fire! And I take as well as give.</p>
<p>Well&#8230;</p>
<p>MY email address has ALWAYS been &#8220;live&#8221;.</p>
<p>I got some nasty anonymous hate mail VERY early on&#8230;..like more than a year ago. But I also get the occasional &#8220;fan&#8221; or source of information.</p>
<p>The &#8220;kansasman&#8221; incident is MY fault. I mis-read a letter. Thing is though? Even in THAT mistake I asked kansasSAM why he seemed to be posting out of the ordinary. Rage quickly caught and corrected the mistake.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the point. The regulars here are SO familiar that they get &#8220;nic switch&#8221; trolled hyperbolically and with misinformation. This is probably by a reader or infrequent poster with an axe to grind and no reputation to defend. Who can I pick on for an example&#8230;.?</p>
<p>Ok Tracy</p>
<p>(Since he gets picked on so much lately anyway)</p>
<p>If most of us see &#8220;Tracy&#8221; post:  &#8220;I&#8217;m just a bitter old woman, don&#8217;t listen to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well we KNOW that it aint the real Tracy. So the offending troll gets jumped on, usually goes away or sometimes provides an &#8220;entertaining&#8221; sideshow of their own.</p>
<p>Newbies usually learn the ropes pretty quick. I myself try to help them as I can as I am sure many of us do.</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>What DOES bother me is the occasional wild assertion of fact. We DO have readers. We should be responsible in posting or work hard as we can to discredit wild assertions.</p>
<p>Again an example&#8230;</p>
<p>I saw a new poster post to the effect that &#8220;Patton know how to deal with Islamic terrorists. He once had 50 of them dig holes in front of posts. Then he had 50 hogs shot, dipped bullets in the hog blood, shot 49 of the terrorists with the dipped bullets, and let the last terrorist go to tell the tale.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anybody else see that one?</p>
<p>I did MULTIPLE searches looking for SOME truth to that post. I found NOTHING.</p>
<p>But with this also, we are pretty good at policing our own. MOST wild assertions, half truths or outright lies can be quickly dispatched. And usually they are.</p>
<p>It aint broke. Don&#8217;t &#8220;fix&#8221; it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94484</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, &quot;free-fire,&quot; I like that.

Thanks for the comment, Dave.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, &#8220;free-fire,&#8221; I like that.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94483</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;I think Dave Knadler reads these things sometimes. If you are reading Dave, and care to make a comment, what would you favor as far as unique log-in, registration, etc.&lt;&lt;&lt;

We do need to require a unique log-in and a genuine e-mail address. Makes it easier to thwart trolls -- and police the posts that are particularly libelous, particularly obscene, or threaten physical violence.  (Oh wait, this is the civil and high-minded blog... never mind.)

Unfortunately, the decision to implement this is not mine to make. So for now, this will remain more or less a free-fire zone. Carry on.

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<p>We do need to require a unique log-in and a genuine e-mail address. Makes it easier to thwart trolls &#8212; and police the posts that are particularly libelous, particularly obscene, or threaten physical violence.  (Oh wait, this is the civil and high-minded blog&#8230; never mind.)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the decision to implement this is not mine to make. So for now, this will remain more or less a free-fire zone. Carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm ...</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94482</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Require a userid and a live email.  Password would be sent to email address activating id.  Then allow a system where someone like Roo Haa could also have variants (Roo_Haa) etc.  The thing I as a user/reader want to be able to do is know at least somewhat what I am looking at.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Require a userid and a live email.  Password would be sent to email address activating id.  Then allow a system where someone like Roo Haa could also have variants (Roo_Haa) etc.  The thing I as a user/reader want to be able to do is know at least somewhat what I am looking at.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94481</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Roo. Yes, you would (although &quot;Roo Haa&quot; and &quot;Roo_Haa&quot; would be considered different). Which means IP logging could be a headache, and perhaps self-defeating, as we couldn&#039;t tell the genuine people using different locations from the trolls.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Roo. Yes, you would (although &#8220;Roo Haa&#8221; and &#8220;Roo_Haa&#8221; would be considered different). Which means IP logging could be a headache, and perhaps self-defeating, as we couldn&#8217;t tell the genuine people using different locations from the trolls.</p>
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		<title>By: Roo Haa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94480</link>
		<dc:creator>Roo Haa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I do post from 2 different machines: home, and occasionally at work, when numerical simulations got drawn out longer than expected. Would that mean I need 2 ID&#039;s?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I do post from 2 different machines: home, and occasionally at work, when numerical simulations got drawn out longer than expected. Would that mean I need 2 ID&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/when_online_arg/#comment-94479</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dave Knadler reads these things sometimes.  If you are reading Dave, and care to make a comment, what would you favor as far as unique log-in, registration, etc.
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