If President Bush does make a campaign visit to Topeka this weekend on behalf of Rep. Jim Ryun, R-Topeka, it will be because Democratic challenger Nancy Boyda appears better positioned to beat Ryun this time than she was two years ago. No doubt the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s decision to spend $339,000 on television ads for her got the White House’s attention. This would be Bush’s third visit to Kansas during his presidency, his second to Topeka (he attended the dedication of the Brown v. Board of Education National Historic Site in 2004) and his second to Kansas this year (he gave a lecture at Kansas State University in January). Isn’t it time he paid a visit to something other than northeast Kansas, say, Wichita?
By the way, that may be an unusual amount of presidential attention for this Republican state, but three times is comparatively nothing: Bush visited Florida last week for the 44th time during his presidency.
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That’s right! Clinton came, why couldn’t he?
To my thinking he should have a extended visit to Leavenworth! Along with Cheney, Rumsfield and Rice, they could fill out a pod rather nicely!
With TT’s reelection being a forgone conclusion, Bush visiting Wichita wouldn’t accomplish anything.
If the WE and other media had relentlessly hounded TT to debate Garth McGuinn until “our” representative acceded, and had this given the feisty Kansas native’s candidacy some traction, then maybe Bush would have had a reason to stop by.
But maybe a competitive election would provoke more excitement than Wichitans can handle. Boisterous politics appears to be best reserved for Northeast Kansas.
I know you didn’t write that dog. Hey who’s planning to go protest? Can I come?
I agree about standing behind the leaders, if the leaders are willing to stand before us, all the way to the frontline.
I agree with Roo. We should stand behind our leaders–if they’re not operating in secrecy, while simultaneously prying into everyone else’s communications. Let’s not conflate Machiavellian control-freakism with leadership. They’re not the same thing folks.
Also, how are we supposed to deal with the extraordinary cognitive dissonance induced by a presidential candidate who during a debate told us that his greatest role model was Jesus Christ, which was fine, but then he gave us the “Shock and Awe” show, created a war based on pretense that has killed to as many as 600,000 citizens of another country, forced hundreds of thousands more to flee their own nation, reduced towns and cities to rubble, etc? I’m sorry, I’ve read the New Testament. I can find nothing in it to suggest that Jesus would have endorsed GWB’s actions. It appears to me that Julius Caesar is GWB’s role model. Except Caesar was an extremely competent CiC. He was also a pagan.
THE GREAT DIVIDER:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/opinion/02thu1.html?th&emc=th
FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL
Kansas GOP candidates have accepted large amounts of cash from Jack Abramoff, Tom DeLay, and Foley. These guys know how to buy protection.
Nay, more like Publius Quinctilius Varus in the Battle of Teutoburg. At least, he kept his honor.
Here’s how the Republicans are trying to win this election:
President Bush himself is trying to scare voters with ridiculous claims, saying that “terrorists win and America loses” if Democrats were to take control of Congress.In Missouri, Michael J. Fox recently appeared in a heartfelt ad for Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill, criticizing the Republican incumbent’s opposition to stem cell research. The GOP smear machine immediately attacked Fox and McCaskill, with Rush Limbaugh even suggesting Fox was faking his symptoms of Parkinson’s disease in the ad.In Tennessee, the Republican Party ran racist ads aimed at dredging up some of the worst racial prejudices imaginable. The ads attacking Democratic Senate candidate Harold Ford, who is African-American, show a scantily clad white woman beckoning to him. The ad is so bad that some TV stations are refusing to run it, and non-political companies have fired the Republican consultants who made it. The RNC refused to denounce the disgusting ad, despite a public outcry.In California, one Republican campaign took a page from the national GOP playbook, which calls for suppressing minority voters at every opportunity. The campaign sent a false and deliberately misleading mailing to Hispanics in the district that threatened jail time for any immigrant — legal or not — who tried to vote.
Great point Roo. Remember Ahlamed Chalabi, who was feeding false WMD and other provocatory info to the CIA to foment invasion, who was later found to have been secretly working with Iran, which is going to be the major beneficiary of this debacle? Nothing like walking into a baited trap.
Oh he will never bother to come down here.. This is 3rd world to him, even if we are the most populus city in the state. Not to mention the air force base he could land his monstrosity 747 at with reasonable assurances of security.
Oh no, its too logical for that twit to think about coming to Wichita. Maybe his press canvasing staff will see this and convince him to come.. Oh i’ll call the Eagle if I end up in jail for this…
Erik, how could you assume they even let you make a phone call? :)
Ha ha. Why would he come here? Most of us are here because our ancestors got tired of walking.
HABEUS WHATUS??
Maybe President Bush should come to Cowtown, the attendance figures would double the count for the preceding year.
I see I picked up a troll.Flattering.
Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery!
It’s just hilarious that the wingers have only trolls instead of an actual campaign platform.
Another whiff of winger desperation in the air today.
Tracy,M.J. Fox admitted to not taking his medication to make the effects of his disease appear worse.Adult stem cell research has been more fruitful than embryonic.How do you feel about cloning?
Tracy, Habeus Corpus doesn’t apply if its a federal arrest… Or didn’t you know that.
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/winter01/stem_cell.html
The question of stem cells is currently the dominant subject in the debate over biotechnology and human genetics: Should we use embryonic stem cells or adult stem cells for future medical therapies? Embryonic stem cells are taken from a developing embryo at the blastocyst stage, destroying the embryo, a developing human life. Adult stem cells, on the other hand, are found in all tissues of the growing human being and, according to latest reports, also have the potential to transform themselves into practically all other cell types, or revert to being stem cells with greater reproductive capacity. Embryonic stem cells have not yet been used for even one therapy, while adult stem cells have already been successfully used in numerous patients, including for cardiac infarction (death of some of the heart tissue).
Cloning what?Republicans? NO.
Embryonic, YES.It can be done now without destroying the poor little blastocyst that going to be trashed anyway.
Wether MJF exaggerated or not is hardly the issue here.It’s Okay for nutballs to send out pictures of fresh abortions, but MJF is playing dirty?Nope. Not buying.
(in wich I attempt a Foghorn-leghorn imitation):Erik, that was a joke son, a joke I tell ya’.
Fortunately I don’t have any experience as a federal fugitive,so you’re right.I didn’t know.
Tracy,You were upset about people pouncing on poor MJF. Well, call a spade a spade. Dirty is dirty. People kill kids in shitty ways. Showing that is wrong? Sucking the brains out of a partially birthed infant? Yeah I can understand why you would want to hide that.
You get better results from ADULT stem cells. Why are you even fighting for embryonic stem cells?
Protect our kids damn it.
When is the president coming and where?
I want to show my support for our Commander-in-Chief during this time of crisis.
I have something important to give him . . . . . . . . the finger.
I’m just suprised he backed down so easily. Quite the fireball yesterday on the Kerry bungle. BTW Tracy, this is Paul from yesterday. I changed my nic so as not to be confused with another Paul.
Scaredy little trolls.
Sucks to be a fundie kook these days, don’t it?
I’m here to help.
Abortion is going to remain safe and LEGAL. This will NOT change. A Republican House, Senate and p(resident) has done nothing but play that political football.
Abortion is going to remain legal. Accept it. You’ll sleep better.
Embryonic stem cell research is GOING to be expanded and federally funded. This important research has the majority support of the American people and it is GOING to happen. Kook fundies will only delay it and inflict a few more years of suffering….on the suffering.
Sollie and Jellie–
The President, the Congress, and the Supreme Court support “murdering babies” too.
If they didn’t, they would make it illegal, wouldn’t they?
Don’t blame the Democrats for what your one-party government refuses to do . . .
Paul. I’m not backing down or anything of the sort.We’re not going to change each others minds, so forget it.I’m not here to debate abortion.
If you’re in a religious fervor, do the christ-like thing.Adopt actual living suffering children.On second thought, just give to save the children.If ya wanna play badass there jellydick, let’s get it on.Slimy coward.
Capn,Sorry you see everything in party lines only. I asked a person or persons what their views were. If you are ashamed of your principles, by all means, jump to a party line.
Tracy,OK, we’ll leave abortion out of it. Smart move on your part.
Stem cells. Adult stem cells are helping people today and hurting no one. Embryonic… well, guess that is another story isn’t it?
I’m not ashamed of who I am and what I believe.Unlike jellydick.Here’s jellydick’s pride right here:
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Tracy,I’m over in “Kline must fish or cut bait on abortion records” that kind of ties in. Continue it there?
Paul, also a smart move distancing yourself from anything resembling paulfrosell.I’ll go ahead and state my beliefs on abortion just to get this out of the way.1) I do not believe that abortion is a good thing, unless done for very extreme reasons.2) Abortion is legal despite how I feel about it, and I intend to defend this country’s laws.3) I personally don’t believe that a blastocyst quite qualifies as a murder victem. Starving kids in third world countries, YES.Millions of kids could be saved from starvation with what the RR has spent on this political hotbutton issue.Immoral and hypocritical.
Okay, as far as embryonic goes, I’ve already heard the propaganda and I’d rather rely on science and scientists, rather than religious zealots and their politicians.Not one penny spent on embryonic has been wasted. No we don’t have the breakthroughs yet. That’s why they call it research.
I’m in and out regularly.If I don’t post for a while,I’m just busy and I’ll catch back up with ya’.Gotta go right now, I’ll be back.
“Embryonic stem cell research is GOING to be expanded and federally funded.”
No, I don’t think so. Feel free to explain how you think this is going to happen.
Am I reading this correctly ?
The Eagle editorial board wants teh Prez to visit Wichita?
So they can bash him some more?
We are a representative democratic republic Todd. Embryonic stem cell research has overwhelming approval. Eventually the mojority WILL rule and this important research WILL go forward.
That’s funny Todd. I never featured you for a kook fundie.
” It appears to me that Julius Caesar is GWB’s role model.”
no heartlander, more like caligula. The mad boy.
Hee hee hee hee
You are so right about the smell of right wing desperation. When only the trolls speak for them, you know they are desperate.
Take a good look at jellie and solly and paulie’s posts from yesterday.
Do you want HIS KIND to STAY THE COURSE in the way they are destroying our country?
If you think jellie and sollie are the kind of folks you want in charge, vote for bonbon. Vote for toddly. Vote republican.
The choices couldnt be more clear.
Keep posting sollie. Like I said yesterday, every time you show your ass, a democrat gets it’s angel wings.
And a few more votes….
“How do you feel about cloning?”
As long as they don’t clone s(h)eep(le) like you, who cares?
Oh, okay. So thinking that stem cell isn’t going to be federally funded makes me a kook fundie? I guess I should have expected that.
WHEN is the pResident going to be in Topuka?
Anybody know?
Tracy,
I’m outing your troll.
Jellie, your trolling won’t get you anywhere with this bunch, be they Republicans or Democrats. You only reveal to all how desperate you are for attention. Your cry for help has been heard. And ignored.
“WHEN is the pResident going to be in Topuka?”
Sorry, only Republicans who waddle after the pResident will be allowed that information. No extra money right now for fenced free speech zones.
Some resources highlighting the truth in the adult vs. empbryonic stem cell non-controversy:
http://www.stowers-institute.org/WhatsNew/pr2006/PR071406.asp
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/rapidpdf/313/5786/439b.pdf?ijkey=R7itotoH.21cU&keytype=ref&siteid=sci
I appreciate you right wingers being consistent, it makes refuting your absurd claims that much easier. I have these sites book-marked and I am sure I will use them again before long.
Carry on, wingers.
ksfarmgrrl
Were you abused as a child by a republican? Such hatred can’t be good for you.
Showing my ass? By sticking up for kids? Yeah, I’ll let it hang out all the way to Sunday.
Sol?
I missed where you were for repealing welfare reform. You are FOR that aren’t you? Or, does your compassion end when the umbilical cord is cut?
JR,Welfare is an abused system. If you enjoy giving money away, then please, deposit in my paypal account.Should it go away? No, we should care for our citizens when they are down and out. I don’t believe in paying folks who care not to work and reproduce irresponsibly.
“WHEN is the pResident going to be in Topuka?”
I haven’t heard anything more specific than “this weekend”.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/politics/elections/15893825.htm
Pal, I enjoy giving my money away, provided it’s for the common good, not to pay for your personal mischiefs. My tax money pays for police protection, firefighters, road maintenance, etc. I support comprehensive sex-ed, so folks wouldn’t be reproducing irresponsibly due to the lack of knowledge on how to use contraceptives.”Doc, it says put it on the organ prior to intercourse. We only have a piano!” Duh!
“By sticking up for kids?”
ROFLMQAO!!!!!!!!!!!
HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE
UH,no sollie, you are sticking up for OPERATION RESCUE.
So, what does your rap sheet look like? Like paulie the shillie’s? Like phillllllllll klein’s butt boy?
Like FRED PHELPS?
You arent sticking up for kids, sollie, a long way from it.
You are sticking up for the wingnut ideology.
Ideology is all that matters to you.
Kids are waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy down the list.
Does terry fox have a kid named paulie? Or sollie? How about Randall Terry.
And dont you just love butt boy’s letter to the editor telling us his arrests weren’t really arrests? And if they were arrests, they really werent important?
Hmmmmm……..
No respect for the rule of law. Yep. They are wingers. They think THEY can issue signing statements about which laws will be obeyed and which ones, errrrr, not so much.
heheheh.
The choices for voters couldnt be more clear.
A vote against the wingers is a vote FOR the rule of law.
You do remember the rule of law? It hasnt gone the way of habeas corpus…. YET!
But it might if you vote for the likes of sollie and outie and paulie the shillie.
Sollie the trollie….
yer ass is showing again.
Deep inhale.
Yep. the smell of wingnut desperation in the morning.
FIVE.MORE.DAYS.
Will you go postal on us sollie?
Stay tuned to the moonbat cave for more of sollie’s trolling meltdown.
Same moonbat time. Same moonbat channel.
Hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee
I guess when you cant come up with a cogent position, you can always troll.
Or start a war of choice with iraq.
The choices for voters couldnt be more clear. Sollie and GWB? Or wingnut free leadership.
You decide.
ksfarmgrrl,
So if I’m not sticking up for kids by saying they shouldn’t be killed, the saying they shouldn’t be killed is…
You’re real good at throwing names around. Bravo. But what is it you personally stand for? You believe abortions are OK? Woman’s choice? When does the baby choose?
And if you think ksfarmgirl is way over the top, a nut, a crazed liberal, by all means read about who she supports. Then you’ll know what to do with your vote.
JR,Are you completely cracked? Where did you and or your family being on welfare come in?do you think the welfare system is where is should be or needs reform?I guess I’ve been talking to the wrong people. I thought you guys discussed things. I’m finding that you throw provocative comments, drop names, and misdirect more than anything else.
It’s a shame frm grl and JR. If you took that anger and did something positive with it, I bet you’d go a long way.
Sol, that’s not JR.probably jellydick again.
The 10:39 post with my nic and my email was NOT written by me.
I am not and have never been on welfare.
It is illustrative isn’t it the desperation and tactics of the religious right? They cannot defend their own positions and so they shamelessly troll and slander their opponents. How very Christian. Who Would Jesus troll?
Outie you should be denouncing whoever is doing that. Our side has done so for you.
If it is JR, then it’s purely sarcasm.
I did not think it was you.like I said, must be jellydick.
The 10:39 post with my nic and my email was NOT written by me.
I am not and have never been on welfare.
It is illustrative isn’t it the desperation and tactics of the religious right? They cannot defend their own positions and so they shamelessly troll and slander their opponents. How very Christian. Who Would Jesus troll?
Outie you should be denouncing whoever is doing that. Our side has done so for you.
Outie, I’m not sure KFG supports any politician.Don’t know, just a guess.
JR is right this time. If you can’t stand up on your own merit with your own opinions in this forum, you are not welcome. Take a hike troll!
Tracy,Off topic, but I can’t get to your email address. Yesterday we were talking about how the dem party would handle the current Iraq problem…
Yes, please.
If you agree with me, vote NO WINGNUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“I could go far”?
hehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehehh
you know nothing about me
But your trolling tells us all we need to know about you and your kind.
And outie refuses to denounce the troller?
heheheheheh
Right JR. Who would jesus troll?
I know, let’s ask values boy…..
Oops, sorry outie. Our posts crossed.
Thanks for denouncing the troll.
Sol,
Just how much do you know about the welfare system in this state?
RD,Absolutely nothing. I am a Texan stranded in MI. didn’t mean to step on y’all’s toes in Kansas, y’all are just a good forum for debate.
Bush visit:
Maybe on Sunday, it has yet to be confirmed.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/15896843.htm
JR,
I don’t think stealing peoples nics is good. I have never agreed with it.
Your blaming it on the religious right and republicans is just as sad and stupid.
How exactly do you know this troll who is stealing your nic is from either the religious right or republican party?
Thank you Outlander.I’m a single dad, Ben is a scientist, farmgrrl is a successful business woman.
How ’bout you troll?
Hey troll? Do you really imagine that you put a good face on anything you might stand for by acting this way?
Shoot if you weren’t just annoying, I’d say keep it up. You are helping the very people you hate by waving your striped ass stupidity.
And NOW you are using a holy figure to hide under? I should think more folks on your side of things will be asking you to shut up.
Nathan – while there has been some nic-stealing targeting those on the ‘right’ (I think you got hit once) it seems to be mostle against the ‘left’. And then we see this so-called ‘Jesus’ targeting three people who are all considered ‘left’.
I have daddy issues. It explains everything.
So nathan reappears on the blog and so does the troll?
I think I mentioned the troll is here on the days nathan is here.
Only hits posters left of center?
Fits the M.O.
Don’t steal my NICK.Ha, just kidden’.
Rhonda, why, pray tell, should he?
Bush will be in Topeka Saturday, and I’ll be there with signs on!
: SolDevVB
MJF did not say that — what he said was he that he has no control over when the meds kick on and off — he has never said he doesn’t take his meds to amplify his ailment symptoms — you are wrong wrong wrong — or lying