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Open thread
- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted Nov. 28, 2006 at 1:05 a.m.
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Some things make you wonder why conservatives, like some members of the Eagle staff, take Matt Drudge seriously. Here’s one of the stories that Matt created about George Bush being in a burka:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Drudge_makes_light_of_mourning_Iraqi_1127.html
Besides Mr. Castillo, who are these conservatives on the Eagle staff? I’d be curious to learn there were more!
Doug! All that Matt Drudge does is post stories from other news websites on his. It’s just a compilation. He doesn’t really make his own news.
The significant news of that photo is that it came from Reuters news service, which was busted this year for doctoring photos of Lebenon war photos.
But I don’t expect you to get it Doug! You’re a blind leftist.
Joe is using the nasty “L” word this morning. Moderaters, please take note.
I read in this morning’s paper that efforts are being made to raise 500 million dollars for the new Bush library.My first thought was that was an enormous amount of money to store comic books!
gster, you know very well that presidential libraries hold ex-presidents’ non-classified documents, recordings of speeches, etc. This building’s going to have a lot of empty shelves.
Is it true that Halliburton is getting the contract?
Heartlander- You’re right- I stand corrected! As to the building contract- nothing is off the table, much more likely under the table!
The ‘Non-Sequiter’ cartoon is too appropriate today. It would be funny if it weren’t so true.
(Cross-posted on another thread)
It’s a Civil War, Stupidby Dan Froomkin
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html
gster,
Bush’s library is mentioned in the article I posted a link to, above.
Re: The half-billion Bush library. This was in the Economist a few months ago.
From an Economist about the Texas-sized fight over who gets George Bush’s library:The Dallas press is gleeful at the prospect of a George W. library (at Southern Methodist University in Dallas). In a column, Steve Blow of the Dallas Morning News reckoned that the exhibits would include “The Frat Boy Years,” “The Failed Business Years,” “The Figurehead Baseball Job,” “Cool, I’m Governor! And “Holy Crap, I’m President!!” As for the archives ‚Äì a mainstay of every presidential library ‚Äì he predicts that just about everything will be classified.
Dennis, thanks for the laugh!
Hey Joe, if I pass on a lie that makes me a liar. The same applies to Drudge.
Dennis- Very good! How about the Alfred E. Bush pavillion?
Gstr,
They do resemble each other.
Dennis-It’s a case of “What me worry” vs “What did I do?”!
Joe Williams,
Drudge posts unconfirmed and sometimes false stories from any source, including the RNC and WH.
Then right-wing and/or dysfunctional media spreads Drudge’s false info, and Americans gullibly believe it’s the truth.
So yes Joe, Drudge does “make his own news”.
A good example of Drudge’s “journalism”(sic). Note the initial chronology, and the reader’s letters.
‘The Lay-in-the-Lincoln-Bedroom lie helps instruct us in where spin comes from.’http://www.dailyhowler.com/h022502_1.shtml
Dennis and gster,Let us not forget the “manly man cheerleader room” - whose funding will be supplemented by a grant from the Trent Lott.
It has been too much fun today!
And, has anybody else noticed here lately that a bull market can make really dumb people (like me) look pretty smart?
I guess one could contrast Bush’s “What did I do” to Clinton’s “Whom did I do”!
I wonder if the Bush II library will have a special “Robin Lowman Abortion Hypocricy” wing.
Joe Williams,
Another example. Drudge incorrectly implied that Al Gore was wrong in his movie re hurricanes, because the U.S. had a quiet season this year.http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/27/drudge-gore-global-warming
But other regions had very intense storms,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005-06_Southern_Hemisphere_tropical_cyclone_season
How about 185 mph winds (1 minute sustained) and 225 mph gusts! That’d “relocate” most homes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Monica“It is the strongest tropical cyclone (in terms of wind) ever recorded in the Southern Hemisphere.”
6 “super” typhoons, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Pacific_typhoon_season
Has anyone else seen the news that Roger Valadez died suddenly? He was the man that won the lawsuit against KSN for their coverage of him and his arrest.
I always felt sorry for that man because his life was turned upside down and yet, KSN, keeps on going with their promos as being accurate. What a crock!
Yeah, Lucee, I got a phone call about it just after lunch time. KSN was under different ownership when they screwed up than they are now. But there’s no question that they put this man through hell. However, if I recall correctly, the defendants had already said they were going to appeal the verdict, and since the amount of damages was partly based upon actuarial life expectancy, this certainly makes their appeal outcome appear rosier. I’m not implying any foul play or anything else there, just stating facts, as I recall them.
rm, a bizarre thought has just crossed what is left of my mind; would there be any justiciable basis for the late Mr. Valadez’ heirs to file a wrongful death action? I know this is very premature, as the cause of death is unknown. If, however, it was due to the stress, etc. resultant from the KSN actions, and precipitated his death… as a nonlitigator, it seems such an action might have better grounds than the one filed against Nancy Grace. Perhaps Palsgraf v. Long Island Railway (or something like that; Torts I was a long time ago) doctrine of foreseeability could come into play. Oh, Justice Cardozo; where are you when we really need you?
Vaughn — As you said, this is premature, since COD has not been announced, and won’t be for several weeks. Having said that, I doubt that a wrongful death action would fly because the burden of attribution to “the stress” is flimsy, at best, but it would be a hell of a negotiating tool … i.e., drop your appeal, pay the heirs the $1.1 million, and we’ll go away. In my mind, it certainly wouldn’t be a frivilous action, and one that would be expensive as hell to defend. It will be interesting, I suspect, to see what Dan reccommends — Dan’s one hell of a trial lawyer, even when the issue, as in this case, in my opinion, was a little out of his element.
rm, I totally agree with your observations on Dan. Obviously, I also agree with the rest of your post, since you agree with me in a part of it.
Meant to ask you, Vaughn, Pelsgraf v. LIR was the one about the shooting on the subway where the perp shot 7 people or some such, or was it? And then acted as his own counsel in the criminal proceedings? Now we’re dealing with what’s left of my mind !
rm, don’t feel bad; just been one of those days.
Palsgraf dealt with the case where two (or three) men were running to catch a train beginning to depart from the station, at least one of them had a bag of fireworks which split; fireworks fell out, and were ignited due to the heat of the rails.
The concussion from the explosion caused a baggage scale on the platform to fall over on poor Mrs. Palsgraf, who was on the platform waiting for another train (?), causing her to be severely injured.
Jury award was upheld on appeal, Cardozo writing that it was the duty of the railway company to keep those on its premises free from foreseeable harm, that it was foreseeable that someone would be running to catch a train and drop fireworks on the track, etc., and the railway company, by not properly securing its scale so it could not fall over from such a concussion was liable.
Or something like that; I’ll let our younger folks who may have read the case tell me how bad my memory is. BTW, believe the case was from the 19teens. I seem to recall that the rule announced by Cardozo was the minority rule on foreseeability, and in the majority of jurisdictions, Mrs. Palsgraf would not have recovered.
OK… vaguely, I do remember that, and I think you’re right, it was a minority opinion. Emphasis on vaguely. Thanks.
If you are interested in oil independence,(from a Rocky Mountain Institute email)
“Tonight, November 28, 2006, on most PBS stations, an interview with Amory Lovins, CEO and cofounder of RMI, will be featured on the Charlie Rose Show.
In this interview, Amory responds to questions about how the U.S. can eliminate its dependence on oil through market-driven approaches.
He talks about RMI’s progress in several sectors-including heavy trucks, the military, light vehicles, biofuels, airplanes, and financial-in implementing recommendations made in RMI’s Winning the Oil Endgame.
You’ll be amazed at the progress RMI has made with Wal-Mart, the military, and states such as Hawaii and California.”
I hope KSN TV is happy with themselves. Jerks!
cosmos - many of the things RMI talks about have been known for years. It’s too bad nobody is listening.
Thanks for the info on cyclones across the globe. The Phillipines are bracing for ANOTHER super typhoon - probably Cat 4. They had one this summer that would have been a Cat 6 if we measured them that high.
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/wp200624.html
For some good general climate info including a review of Gore’s movie:
http://www.wunderground.com/education/education.asp