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This world would be a remakably better place without Israel
AMERICA HELD HOSTAGE:
DAY 2128
Presidency held hostage:794 Days left.
Congress held hostage:49 Days left.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
Anyone besides me find it strange that Randy Scholfield (aka the front man for RentaCenter) is not posting here anymore, and his latest Friday musings (about driving his Scholfield Auto mobile) allows no comments to be posted? Hmmmm, is he withdrawing from the public eye?
Check out Friday’s extended rant about fixing our roadways. My favorite line was this one: “I’m not one of those who whine about Wichita’s traffic. We have no idea what real urban traffic snarls or commutes are like.” It was right smack dab in the middle of his whine about road construction!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/11/061117-dark-energy.html
Mysterious Dark Energy Has Existed For Most of Time, Scientists SayRichard A. Lovettfor National Geographic News
November 17, 2006Peeling back both space and time, scientists using the Hubble Space Telescope have found that the strange force known as dark energy appears to have existed for at least the past two-thirds of the universe’s history.
Dark energy is a mysterious repulsive force that opposes gravity, causing the universe to expand. Albert Einstein posited that a form of the force existed nearly a century ago by, but it was not discovered until 1998.
I noticed a bunch of Ian’s intolerable posts were pulled.Thanks to the editors.
waitaminute – I guess I was more wondering whatever happened to KSMeadowlark and Rossell. As for his “rant” about construction I found it to be more tongue-in-cheek than anything. And he is right – Wichitans have no clue what a REAL traffic jam looks like!
I respectfully suggest that this world would be a remarkably better place without Ed Friedemann.
When Ed’s right, he’s right!
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
And Ian Santiago. They’re both virulent racists who taking up oxygen that someone might need.
I suspect that Rossell found his misplaced rock, and crawled back under it.
ed-You are a pig. When Ian agrees with you …
The elections are over, and Paul isn’t here?
JR, I’m sure you have some thoughts on that. ;) I’ll leave the honor to you.
From the “well duh!” department …
Iraq invasion a disaster, Blair admits
Tony Blair conceded last night that the invasion of Iraq by the United States and Britain had been a “disaster”.His frankest assessment of the prospect that the country could descend into civil war came as Margaret Hodge, a long-standing political ally, was said to have described the conflict as Mr Blair’s “big mistake in foreign affairs”.
At a private meeting in London, Mrs Hodge, the industry minister, is reported to have accused him of “moral imperialism”.
Interviewed yesterday on al-Jazeera television’s new English-language channel, Mr Blair was challenged by Sir David Frost over the daily murders, bombings and kidnappings in Iraq.
Sir David said the West’s military intervention, which has cost 2,858 American and 125 British lives, had been “pretty much of a disaster”.
much more …
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/11/18/iraq-invasion-a-disaster-says-blair-18-nov-06/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fmain.jhtml%3Bjsessionid%3D42N4APBAT3EKJQFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0%3Fxml%3D%2Fnews%2F2006%2F11%2F18%2Fnirq18.xml
Not sure how valid but interesting allegations …
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/11/17/clear-evidence-2006-congressional-elections-hacked/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opednews.com%2Farticles%2Fgenera_rob_kall_061117_clear_evidence_2006_.htm&frame=true
OpEdNews ExclusiveClear Evidence 2006 Congressional Elections Hacked
by Rob Kall
Actually, Ed may be right, though, given the butterfly effect, I’m not sure I would want to change history (let alone how!).
The problem is that the persecuted founded a nation and, somewhere along the line, learned how to be persecutors.
No lectures, please, about anti-Semitism, etc; I hate bigotry of all stripes. And I’m well aware that many of Israeli’s enemies don’t have peace and love at the top of their “things to do” list.
In relation to Israel, the real problem (for us, in America) is AIPAC.
Rage – I would go with just requiring Israel to either (a) live within its 1967 borders or (b) if it wants to annex the Territories become a real democracy. The former would require abandoning the Settlements; the latter would require allowing all Palestinians to vote.
It is time for regime change in Tel Aviv. We cannot have this sort of policy:
“RAMALLAH, West Bank – Israel should ignore moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, wipe out the Hamas leadership and walk away from the U.S.-backed “road map” peace plan, Israel’s new deputy prime minister, Avigdor Lieberman, said Saturday.
Israel must walk away from interim peace deals, the so-called Oslo Accords, and from the U.S.-backed “road map” plan, which envisions the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel in several stages, he said.”
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/breaking_news/16046501.htm
All aid to and trade with Israel should be frozen; if we demand that Palestinians recognize Israel we should similarly demand that Israel recognize Palestine.
In OUR future thinking & practices:No racism ALLOWED!
No idiotic male chauvinism or bigoted discrimination ALLOWED!No ideological or religious motivated terroristic stupidity ALLOWED!No xenophobic isolationism, dumb criminality,abusive exploitation or violence against women and children,nor avaricious global exploitation of humanity ….ALLOWED!
Tracy, and how would you disallow all that you detest? A dictatorship of the proletariot I assume. Breaking eggs to make an omelet, correct?
Hmmmm.you seem to have missed the point. Scholfield seems to have hidden out once his biases were subjected to review and question. DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN…..
I don’t know that he is hiding out. Over the years he has done ‘humorous’ columns; the traffic one was one of those. He is no more biased than anyone else.
Perhaps he is just resisting the temptation to rub the election results into peoples’ wounds right now.
The purpose of all speech is to clothe thought and thus make our thoughts available for others. When we speak we evoke a thought and make it present, and we bring that which is concealed within us into audible expression.Speech reveals,and right speech can create a form of beneficent purpose,just as wrong speech can produce a form which has a malignent objective.
Holocaust even more extensive than thought …
“Files likely to spur Holocaust research
BAD AROLSEN, Germany – The 21-year-old Russian sat before a clerk of the U.S. Army Judge Advocate’s office, describing the furnaces at Auschwitz, the Nazi death camp where he had been a prisoner until a few weeks previously.
“I saw with my own eyes how thousands of Jews were gassed daily and thrown by the hundreds into pits where Jews were burning,” he said.
“I saw how little children were killed with sticks and thrown into the fire,” he continued. Blood flowed in gutters, and “Jews were thrown in and died there”; more were taken off trucks and cast alive into the flames.
Postwar historians estimated about 5,000 to 7,000 detention sites. But after the Cold War ended, records began pouring out of the former communist nations of East Europe. More sites were disclosed in the last six years in claims by 1.6 million people for slave labor reparations from a $6.6 billion fund financed by the German government and some 3,000 industries.
“We have identified somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 camps and ghettos of various categories,” said Geoffrey Megargee of the Holocaust Museum in Washington, who is compiling a seven-volume encyclopedia of these detention centers.
The archive has some 3.4 million files of DPs – Displaced Persons. They include names such as John Demjanjuk and Viorel Trifa, who immigrated to the United States and later became internationally known because their role in the Holocaust came into question.
Between 1933 to 1945, the Nazi persecution grew to assembly-line proportions, slaughtering 6 million Jews and an equal number of Gypsies, homosexuals, mental patients, political prisoners and other “undesirables.” Tens of millions were conscripted as forced laborers.
To operate history’s greatest slaughter, the Nazis created a bureaucracy that meticulously recorded the arrest, movement and death of each victim. Sometimes even the lice plucked from heads in concentration camps were counted.
But as the pace of genocide stepped up, unknown numbers were marched directly from trains to gas chambers without being registered. In the war’s final months, the bookkeeping collapsed, though the extermination continued.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/breaking_news/16046892.htm
Amazing … and horrifying …
Sorry Ian – the evidence is overwhelming.
Ed said the world would be a better place without Israel, not without Jews. I see nothing racist in that comment.
Ed is correct. And don’t try to call me a racist for saying so.
Ian IS a racist. He DOES hate Jews and everybody that isn’t Ian I guess.
It is an undisputable FACT that the unfortunate location and circumstance of the founding of Israel is THE source of unrest in the mideast.
2? Has it ocurred to some of you kooks that Randy Schofield might be on vacation? See? Awhile back some of dared to hope that bias values boy Brentie Castillo had been canned or at least relegated back to the religion section. Nope. He was just on vacation.
RD? I always said Rosell was a proll. The election is over and his advocacy did NOTHING for those he was shilling for. Probably a convergence there. He is no longer needed or WANTED by whatever had him here.
J R – I have been called racist and anti-emitic for taking the position taken by former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak Rabin. Obviously, if they will do that they will surely label Ed that way.
Of course, that is why the radical Zionists murdered him.
JR,
My thoughts exactly.
UCLA Students Protest Taser Incident
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061118/ap_on_re_us/student_stunned_10
Olbermann showed the video on his show last night. Really sick stuff. See for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I
Who let Ian out again without his medicine?
People are responsible for the actions of their dogs, should they wander loose and cause harm. Shouldn’t Santiagos handlers be similarly held responsible?
Especially since it is obvious that Ian has not had his rabies shot.
Thank God there is only one Ian. Can you imagine the damage he could cause if there was more than one person that thought like him?
Sorry – I guess we have already seen what would happen if there were more than one Ian – Nazi Germany.
My bad.
Viva La Revolucion Intelligencia!!
You can handle it WS. Ian I mean.
See RD up there? She and I and a whole lot of other regs here have been treated to the world according to Ian for over a year now. Ya get used to it. (That does NOT mean I condone it.But if he gets shut up who is next?) He even manages to say something meaningful now and again.
The difference between Ed and Ian?Ed seems to be a thoughtful guy who looked at the issues and came down on the side of the Palestinians; a legitimate, if currently unpopular viewpoint.Ian comes across as a rabid racist from the 1930’s; an anachronism that reminds us all of the darker side of our history.I have some doubts regarding Ian’s actual existence. Could he be some fictional character invented by someone who doesn’t want us to forget our past, or what we could, if we aren’t careful, become again?
Hehe, yeah, JR, I think I’ve noted on more than one occasion how Ian managed to be right for all the wrong reasons!
At any rate, he’s kinda like Ratbert–he won’t go away anyway.
I’ve had similar thoughts of late, Jed. More later.
Ed and I often find ourselves with simialr views. I think I tend to be more willing to accept the fact that we can only turn back the clock so far. Thus, although I believe that what was done in 1948 was wrong it is also too late to undo it. Thus I leave Israel in place. However, I do not accept Israeli empire advocated by voices (above) in their government there.
An observation: going through the Old Testament it seems that whenever Israel strives to empire and covets its neighbors’ lands God smites them down. Persia has been an instrument of that smiting in the past. Persia is rattling sabers again …
hmmm,If you consider the long history of that particular piece of ground (Israel/Palestine), it is probably soaked with more gallons of blood per square foot than any other comparable real estate on earth! Maybe, if it’s occupants can’t somehow find a way to get along peacefully, it’s about time for the world to declare it off limits to everybody, move the present population elsewhere and use the land as a storage facility for nuclear waste.
Interesting idea … in fact, we could allow the zealots of both sides to stay!
hmmm,Nope, enough blood is enough blood. And maybe if the zealots didn’t have it to fight over, they wouldn’t be quite so inclined to fight.
If God had a clue, He would sink that land, complete with haters. Save those who welcome peace. Perhaps in a large ark? *grin* After all, if He can create a flood that covered the earth, why not sink those who kill over His name, whether it’s God or Allah?
Jed – but we need to carry out scientific experiments as to the effects of exposure to the hazardous/radioactive waste …
hmmm,I think we really have enough of that sort of data!
No, Mr. Santiago, I am not in favor of censorship – delusional rantings such as those that you post are self-censoring. They are also incredibly misinformed.
I have found that white-nationalist, racist bigots such as yourself are severely lacking in self-esteem, thus your propensity for wild, unsupported claims such as Germany’s rise.
Interestingly enough, were you in Germany, you could find yourself facing a jail term for your Holocaust denial.
But all that aside, I actually find you to be a small minded little man with not much to offer society. You are obviously a self-hating, delusional individual that is desperate to find a focus for your self-directed anger.
You can try to focus your anger on Jews, blacks, lieverals, etc, but you would be much better served by taking a long, hard look in the mirror.
I have to say, Mr. Santiago, I pity you for your narrow, phobic view of the world.
Life is good, Ian, when you let go of hate and mistrust of your fellow human beings.
Try it sometime.
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher,whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctorstruck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic gotaround to former Texas Governor, George W. Bush and his elevation to the White House.
The old Texan said, “Well, ya know, Bush is a ‘post turtle’.” Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘postturtle’ was. The old rancher said, “When you’re driving down acountry road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balancedon top, that’s a post turtle.” The old man saw a puzzled look on thedoctor’s face, so he continued to explain,
“You know he didn’t get there by himself, he doesn’t belong there, he doesn’t know what to do while he’s up there, and you just want to help the dumb shit get down!”
The results of the elections (cartoon) for Democrats.
http://www.markfiore.com/animation/glad.html
RD, JM – good ones!
Listening to the radio … 1.5 million Iraqis have fled the country since the “liberation” (sic)
JM, I LOVE Mark Fiore’s cartoons! Next to JibJab, nothing makes me laugh or think more.
Ian: You don’t seem to get the point — GO FUCK YOURSELF !! Your only claim to fame is that you are the dumbest bastard I have ever had to deal with in 60 years !!!!! Please find another hobby !
Jed and Ed — If you agree with this dumb bastard, you’re no snarter than he is !!!
Largely agree rm but … if Ian said 2+2=4 do we have to disagree. Even a stopped clock is correct once or twice a day …
I think this might have already been posted but it needs to be seen widely
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/11/18/iraq-invasion-a-disaster-says-blair-18-nov-06/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fmain.jhtml%3Bjsessionid%3D42N4APBAT3EKJQFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0%3Fxml%3D%2Fnews%2F2006%2F11%2F18%2Fnirq18.xml&frame=true
Iraq invasion a disaster, Blair admitsBy George Jones, Political EditorLast Updated: 11:42am GMT 18/11/2006
Analysis: Anatomy of a disasterBlair is nipped by a vintage touch of FrostOpinion: Anyone not muddled over Iraq?Blog: Ben Fenton on itchy politiciansTony Blair conceded last night that the invasion of Iraq by the United States and Britain had been a “disaster”.
Tony Blair gave a frank assessment of the invasion of Iraq on al-JazeeraHis frankest assessment of the prospect that the country could descend into civil war came as Margaret Hodge, a long-standing political ally, was said to have described the conflict as Mr Blair’s “big mistake in foreign affairs”.
At a private meeting in London, Mrs Hodge, the industry minister, is reported to have accused him of “moral imperialism”.—–
I see Ian has reached the tipping point with the editors.Everyone is reacting to his posts that are ALL GONE!!!!!Hooray!Truth, justice and the American way prevails.
Guess I will probably be next, so that Randy can come out of hiding.
Cowabunga they ARE all gone!
Now if we can get JR’s left-wing, left-nut, socialist posts censored, life would be well again.
I wondered how long they would let Ian’s reposts of “Stormfront” stand.
Thanks to the Eagle editors for showing some wise use of the “delete” button.
Free speech doesn’t mean you get say anything you want, even if you believe it.
Tim McVey sincerely believed that federal employees deserved to be killed. He doesn’t get to post that on a public blog though.
The Eagle has the right to refuse service, same as any other business.
No shirt, no SANITY, no service.
If you are going to cheap shot someone, Anon, could you at least make it entertaining.
Even your insults are insipid and uninspired . . .
Well chosen nic “anonymous”
Come on out in the light. I’ll only make ya cry a little!
Ya know, it just dawned on my why all Ian’s posts were pulled.
Because Jew Boy gave him that big text “picture” finger everytime Ian posted.
Congratulations, JB! You accomplished what the rest of us having been wanting to have happen since Ian’s first post.
First, Tuesday’s elections and now Ian is banned.
This has been one heck of a good couple of weeks.
Finally, a politician stands up and says the obvious–Bush didn’t do his job before the 9-11 attack.
GQ has the interview:
Do you feel that we would be safer today if you had been president on that day?
GORE: Well, no one can say that the 9-11 attack wouldn’t have occurred whoever was president.
Really? How about all the warnings?
GORE: That’s a separate question. And it’s almost too easy to say, “I would have heeded the warnings.” In fact, I think I would have, I know I would have. We had several instances when the CIA’s alarm bells went off, and what we did when that happened was, we had emergency meetings and called everybody together and made sure that all systems were go and every agency was hitting on all cylinders, and we made them bring more information, and go into the second and third and fourth level of detail. And made suggestions on how we could respond in a more coordinated, more effective way. It is inconceivable to me that Bush would read a warning as stark and as clear (voice angry now) as the one he received on August 6th of 2001, and, according to some of the new histories, he turned to the briefer and said, “Well, you’ve covered your ass.” And never called a follow up meeting. Never made an inquiry. Never asked a single question. To this day, I don’t understand it. And, I think it’s fair to say that he personally does in fact bear a measure of blame for not doing his job at a time when we really needed him to do his job. And now the Woodward book has this episode that has been confirmed by the record that George Tenet, who was much abused by this administration, went over to the White House for the purpose of calling an emergency meeting and warning as clearly as possible about the extremely dangerous situation with Osama bin Laden, and was brushed off! And I don’t know why—honestly—I mean, I understand how horrible this Congressman Foley situation with the instant messaging is, okay? I understand that. But, why didn’t these kinds of things produce a similar outrage? And you know, I’m even reluctant to talk about it in these terms because it’s so easy for people to hear this or read this as sort of cheap political game-playing. I understand how it could sound that way. (Practically screaming now)But dammit, whatever happened to the concept of accountability for catastrophic failure? This administration has been by far the most incompetent, inept, and with more moral cowardice, and obsequiousness to their wealthy contributors, and obliviousness to the public interest of any administration in modern history, and probably in the entire history of the country!
http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_5179
If only the majority could have ruled in 2000 . . . everything could have been different.
It is indeed unfortunate that Mr. Santiago got himself banned from this blog. I do not agree with some of what is posted here, but I respect the reasoned opinions that are expressed by most.
Mr. Santiago clearly crosses the line drawn by most responsible individuals. It is one thing to be on opposite side of a debate; it is undoubtedly antisocial to allow unhinged hatred to color (!) ones thinking.
Perhaps Mr. Santiago will take a day or two to rethink his extreme idealogy.
Then again, perhaps it will take a little longer…………
Viva La Revolucion Intelligencia!!
Does anyone know who Jewboy was? He always seemed to post RIGHT after Ian.
Before we close for the night, let’s return to the Holocaust question briefly….
History has recorded the horrors of the Holocaust as it relates to the Jews, but Hitler did not reserve the “Final Solution” for just those enthic Jews. There may have been as many as seven million other individuals that were exterminated by the Third Reich.
Hitler had socialists, gypsies, intellectuals, homosexuals, communists and POW’s interred in concentration camps and eventually executed.
The point is that blind hatred can be directed at any group of people. We may feel a bias against any segment of the population, but we have to protect the rights of all.
It might be the homosexuals that are feeling society’s wrath today – tomorrow it may be Catholics.
Or Hispanics.
Or Irish.
Or white males.
Or poor people.
Or Kansasans.
Perhaps we should just ensure the rights of all people, lest our particular group be the next marked for extinction.
Jew Boy is just a mild-mannered, unassuming man that walks among you everyday, wishing only to be on the side of right-thinking people everywhere. It is only when faced with bigotry and unbridled hatred that he drops his facade and becomes the caped crusader…….
………..JEW BOY!
Yes, Jew Boy is actually the super hero in all of you – dedicated to peace, love and understanding!
Jew Boy can leap short bigots in a single (well, several) bounds!
Jew Boy is faster (given a reasonable headstart)than a speeding idiotic comment!
Jew Boy stands (sits while blogging)for justice and the American Way!
Who is Jew Boy?
Jew Boy is every compassionate American!
Long live Jew Boy!
Cue curtain…….
rm6046,”Jed and Ed — If you agree with this dumb bastard, you’re no snarter than he is !!!”
You obviously haven’t been around very long! This has to be the first time anyone has accused me of agreeing with Ian. (and I seldom agree with Ed, but that’s another story). I oppose almost everything Ian stands for.However, I also oppose the editor’s decision to pull his posts. As vile as his racism gets, it’s a viewpoint that must be expressed if it is to be fought. Driving it underground only serves to prolong it.
Jewboy has posted under another previously (look at the email address), but I’m having a brain fart, and can’t think of who?
JB, care to declare your real nic? It’s okay. The ACSCII finger was a serious grin for me, anyway!
I endorse your view, Jed.
Getting back to previous thoughts (about the reality of Ian’s ideology). . .the silly, foopy MySpace page (which Ian has yet to disavow), fake picture from the Onion. That, and Ian STILL lists him email on web-based email service Safemail; nothing wrong with that, but one would think someone so suspicious of the “tribe” would stop using a company based and administered in Israel.
No smoking gun, mind you; just some very curious smoke. I long ago lost any taste for the cloak-and-dagger stuff, so I’ll leave it at that!
Party Shift May Make Warming a Hill Priority
By Charles BabingtonWashington Post Staff WriterSaturday, November 18, 2006; Page A06
Dramatic changes in congressional oversight of environmental issues may pump new life into efforts to fight global warming, activist groups and lawmakers said yesterday.
Sen. John W. Warner (R-Va.) announced his intention to become the top Republican on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, now headed by Sen. James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.), who has said that global warming is a hoax. Warner has called for action against climate change, and his ascension to a leadership post would accelerate significant changes already underway.
Firstly, I have disavowed that myspace slander. It ain’t me!
Secondly, I believe that only Ms. Homan is censoring my posts, and I thnink that I know why.
In any event, I shall continue to post and repost if need be. Unlike others, I always back up my play with facts!
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Jew Boy,
As a fellow member of the tribe, albeit a rather more assimilated one in a Kinky Friedman kind of way, CF applauds your style. Where Ian Santiago is concerned, you appear to be kryptonite.
Not, I hasten to add, that he’s Superman, who was, arguably, a good Jew, if somewhat assimilated.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/superman.html
Doh! Speak of the devil, and then he appears.
So you were punk’d on Myspace, Ian? A cruel fate.
I have said it before and will say it again; jews and leftists cringe in the face of free speech and the truth.
Simply criticizing Israel is now considered anti-Semitic.
Kurt Nimmo
If Rev. Ted Pike is correct, this blog may soon be illegal.
“For the past eight years, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith has tried unsuccessfully to pass its Orwellian federal ‘anti-hate’ bill. It has failed largely for one reason: Republican control of Congress,” writes Pike. “Repeatedly, Republican opponents of their hate bill, such as Rep. Roy Blunt and Sen. Bill Frist have been able, with Republican congressional backing, to block passage,” but now, with Democrats in control of Congress, “such freedom-saving clout no longer exists. ADL’s federal thought crimes bill, ‘The Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act,’ will be reintroduced soon after January 1. Since no Democrat in Congress has ever voted against the hate bill, it will pass.”
According to Rabbi David Saperstein of the Interfaith Alliance Foundation, Americans “cannot stand idly by while our brothers and sisters, parents and children, live in fear that racism, homophobia, misogyny, and xenophobia continue to go unchecked. We cannot stand idly by while hate crimes destroy the sense of community that we and so many others have worked so hard to build.”
According to Saperstein, hate crimes are not restricted to violence. Hate crimes “are more than murders, beatings, and assaults. Hate crimes are nothing less than attacks on those values that are the pillars of our republic and the guarantors of our freedom. They are a betrayal of the promise of America. They erode our national well being. Those who commit these crimes do so fully intending to tear at the too-often frayed threads of diversity that bind us together and make us strong. They seek to divide and conquer. They seek to tear us apart from within, pitting American against American, fomenting violence and civil discord.”
If we buy into this line of reasoning, the First Amendment of the Constitution not only allows but encourages hatred and violence. It may soon become a punishable offense to be a racist, homophobe, misogynist, and xenophobe. As distasteful as these people and their ideas may be, the Bill of Rights protects them, provided they do not engage in violence against other people.
Simply criticizing Israel is now considered anti-Semitic. According to the ADL, the scholarly article criticizing AIPAC, authored by John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen M. Walt of the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, is “a classical conspiratorial anti-Semitic analysis invoking the canards of Jewish power and Jewish control” and “anti-Israel forces will be citing this study for a long time to come.”
“It is evident that the fundamental purpose of the scurrilous onslaught on Mearsheimer and Walt is to prevent honest debate,” writes Stephen Sniegoski. “As Michael Scheuer, former chief of the CIA’s Bin Laden unit who gained the public’s attention in 2004 with his condemnation of the Bush war policy in his anonymously authored Imperial Hubris, writes at Antiwar.com: ‘Such a response deep-sixes any chance for a substantive debate on the issue at hand, and submerges it in a blizzard of hate speech directed at the authors from prominent Israel-Firsters, those paragons of virtue who are the chief proponents of First-Amendment-destroying laws against hate speech.’”http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=10759
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
Ian rarely do you make a post worthy of replying to, but there is no support for limiting the freedom of speech. It is assaults and property damage as well as murder that will be protected as hate crimes. Sure, speaking against Jews is anti-semetic, but you’re still entitled to speak whatever you want to. That won’t change. However if you go throw a brick through a Synogauge window, then yes, you’re going to be affected.
Capn,
“If only the majority could have ruled in 2000 . . . everything could have been different.”
If media hadn’t been so dysfunctional, Gore would’ve won the electoral vote by a landslide… and had a mandate.
Consider the falsehoods re Gore: farm chores, ‘Love Story’, “invented” the Internet, Love Canal — and the stupid nitpicking after that.
Consider what was mostly ignored re Bush: Texas’ pollution, CHIP’s, etc, his oil business failures/bailouts, ANG record, etc.
Christ, he’s back again – time to put on the cape……
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Save your kyptonite – it doesn’t work on Jew Boy, Santiago.
What happened to you, Santiago, that caused you to be filled with such hatred for Jews and other minorities?
Jews are only 0.23 percent of the world’s population and only 2 percent of the population of the US. What is it about Jews that frightens you?
You must have one massive inferiority complex to be so afraid of such a small portion of the world.
Fear can be overcome if you chose to be rational.
You might try it – life is a lot easier when you are unafraid.
Are you kidding me? I am not consumed with hatred and I sure am not afraid of jews or minorities!
You really have no idea what’s coming, do you?
Viva La Raza Blanco!!!
“You really have no idea what’s coming, do you?”
Enlighten me, Santiago! Please do!
You have finally responded directly, now bring it on.
But, yes, I DO think that you are afraid, very afraid actually. You are consumed by fear, hence your irrational philosophies.
It’s funny, Ian, I have no fear of anything on this Earth, therefore I have no hatred.
In point of fact, Santiago, I don’t even hate you – I pity you.
“Firstly, I have disavowed that myspace slander. It ain’t me!”
Duly noted. So are still trusting Amiram Ofir to administer your email account? A fairly stand-up member of the tribe, ya think?
Santiago, anyone can Google and copy and paste something – anything – to support an argument, however irrational it may be. If I wanted to, I could Google “Ian Santiago” and pull up some of your commentary and “claim” it supports a debate point.
I was asking you – not Google – why you have such hatred for Jews.
Enlighten me.
POLITICAL MOM
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT LEFTIST TRACY IS WRONG WHEN SHE BARES HER BREASTS AND LEADS THE MADDENING THRONG IN SCREAMING OUT THE FOLLOWING FRENCH REVOLUTIONARY-ISH SCREED:In OUR future thinking & practices:No racism ALLOWED!
No idiotic male chauvinism or bigoted discrimination ALLOWED!No ideological or religious motivated terroristic stupidity ALLOWED!No xenophobic isolationism, dumb criminality,abusive exploitation or violence against women and children,nor avaricious global exploitation of humanity ….ALLOWED!
Tracy, have you been baring your breasts again?
“You really have no idea what’s coming, do you?”
Come on, Santiago, I need to know what’s coming – soon! I have a heavy Zionist agenda to work on this afternoon. You know, take over the world, start a few wars, control the nation’s money – all that stuff!
So tell me – what is coming?
Tracy, have you been baring your breasts again?Posted by: WSClark | November 19, 2006 at 12:51 PM
Yea but they have hair on them. ;-)
Still waiting, Santiago…. you were going to tell me what was coming.
Let me make it more personal, Ian. I am of partial Jewish ancestry. Now, you are of Latino ancestry, but I don’t hate you – pity you for your attitudes, yes – but I have no hatred for you.
Actually, I love Latino women, but that’s another story.
I have many friends, white, black, young, old, Hispanic, Native, gay and straight, religious and atheistic.
So, without posting some nonsense from Google – why do you hate me?
Simply because I am Jewish?
The so-called “myth” of the Holocaust has been proven to be fact over and over again. Let’s not waste time on that debate point.
I have asked you several times to, in your OWN words, explain your anti-Semitism.
You have stated that I have no idea what is coming.
So enlighten me – what is coming and why do you hate Jews?
Poor Tracy – bares his breasts and no one wants to look.
In my case, no one could look – they are covered with black and grey hair, too.
Yuk!
He doesn’t have reasons, JB.
He don’t need no steekin’ reasons . . . that’s why they call it an IRRATIONAL hatred.
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This got his posts pulled last time. Maybe it’ll work again.
waitaminute is obviously a clueless dolt.
Come on, Ian – I know you’re lurking around like a Jr. High School boy trying to get a peek into the Girl’s Locker Room. Stop playing with that thing – you’re going to get your hands all sticky.
You called me out, now back it up.
What is it that I have no idea about?
What’s coming, Santiago?
KIA – according to Santiago, the Jews control the world – all 0.227 percent of them.
That includes all of the world’s humor.
It’s a tough job, but somebody has to do it!
WSClark: The bad news is that Ian might breed. The good news is I doubt if he could get laid in a womens’ prison with a hand full of pardons !
“The bad news is that Ian might breed. The good news is I doubt if he could get laid in a womens’ prison with a hand full of pardons!”
God, that’s some really bad mental imagery. Sex is out of the question for me today.
I might need a Viagra IV.
Is Ian implying that Mr. Castillo is a Jew posing as a Hispanic? Does Ian understand three syllable words like “im-ply-ing”? I doubt it.
Ian has already propagated, so wishful thinking won’t help. ;)
Actually, RM, I am married to a wonderful young woman and we have FIVE lovely, blue eyed kinder. We are also planning on a couple more.
I have four university degrees and own my own business. I, unlike most negroes and beaners am a very productive member of society.
PS: You can gloss over the holohaox but I ain’t buying it, and the burden of proof is on you.
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
Tell me, RM6046, what’s your story?
V.L.R.B!!
Let’s get with it, Santiago! I am scheduled to take over the world’s monetary system this afternoon at Four PM. I don’t have much time!
What is coming, Ian? I just have to know!
I am scheduled to take over the world’s monetary system this afternoon at Four PM. I don’t have much time!Posted by: Jew Boy | November 19, 2006 at 02:45 PM
Now that’s comedy.I thought Jews only owned the entertainment industry, didn’t perform. ;-)
Just another Southern Jew lawyer, Ian, with family members who fled the non-existent Holocaust, and some who didn’t make it. But I don’t hate the Germans or the Japanese or the Blacks, Hispanics or Vietnamese. (Oh, I happened to be there, too.) Nor do I think any one them owe me reparations for their ancestors transgressions … nor do I owe any of them for mine. I am, I must admit, somewhat fascinated by you. You seem to be an equal opportunity bigot…you don’t even like Hispanics. So, unless your name is an alias, you must be sociopathically alienated from society at large. Do you have even one friend? Do you treat your clients/customers with the same disdain you exhibit here? If so, you must be really, really good at whatever it is you do, for them to put up with it. How does your wife stand you? Is she as filled with rage and hatred as you seem to be? How do your children fare in their social interaction coming from the rage within you? Or, Ian, on the other hand, is it all an act … hidden behind the internet?
Tell you what…after the Thanksgiving holiday (and all the crap that goes along with that), I love to buy you lunch and see what makes you tick! Sorry, but I have other committments that will have me tied up until about the 1st of the month.
Ian: In case you haven’t noticed, I’ve rested. The floor is yours. I’ve yielded. You asked the question. The ball’s in your end of the field. First and ten ?
“PS: You can gloss over the holohaox but I ain’t buying it, and the burden of proof is on you.”
Nice try, Santiago – the entire world has had to accept the sad truth of the Holocaust. The fact of the holocaust is a non-issue.
You called me out, little man, now back it up.
I have asked you several times to, in your OWN words, explain your anti-Semitism.
Put up or shut up.
I have a feeling that Ian Santiago is about as Hispanic as Taco Bell.
Like most everything else about him, it is all just a facade to cover his little world of bigotry.
Come on out of the closet, Santiago, and let the world see who you really are!
You know, Hitler hated the Jews and blamed them for all of Germany’s problems even though he himself was of Jewish ancestry.
What’s in your family tree, Ian?
“Wolfie,
How is my favorite, naughty, feisty little uber cyber vixen doin’?
V.L.R.B!!
Posted by: Ian Santiago | 12:12 PM on February 13, 2006″
Prior post from our very own Ian “the Phoney” Sanitago.
Jew Boy: It appears that he’s gone suspiciously silent in the last hour since he “called both of us out” … maybe “rallying the forces”, since suddenly, it’s 2 Jews against 1 “Possible Hispanic”. Conspiracy, no doubt. Paranoid behavior, perhaps. Hell, I offered to take him to lunch, just to see what makes him tick. And, for whatever it’s worth, I have lunch at the Scotch, or one of several excellent Mexican restaurants, which I would think he would like, when I’m in Wichita, not Wendy’s. I guess we’ll see ?
Jew Boy: TACO BELL — I’m sorry, buddy, that is fucking PRICELESS !!!
Is encouraging the murder of a Supreme Court Justice a crime?
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/11/18/can-we-prosecute-ann-coulter-for-this/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.progressiveu.org%2F032631-can-we-prosecute-ann-coulter-for-this-someone-took-her-up-on-that-joke-to-put-rat-poisons-in-supreme-court-justices-treat&frame=true
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Can we Prosecute Ann Coulter for this? SOmeone TOOK HER UP on that “joke” to put rat poisons in supreme court Justices treatsI’m pretty sure this counts as terrorism.
We need somebody to put rat poison in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee,” Coulter said in a Jan. 27 appearance at Philander Smith College in Little Rock, Ark., regarding Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens. She later explained she was joking about the justice, whose votes have upheld Roe v. Wade, the landmark decision legalizing abortion.
Anyone remember THAT sordid little episode? Well it turns out that SOMEONE thought she was onto something….
A discussion of recent threats to judges’ safety, at a bar association conference in suburban Dallas last week, became startlingly specific when Sandra Day O’Connor, the retired Supreme Court justice, recounted that each justice had received in the mail “a wonderful package of home-baked cookies” that contained “enough poison to kill the entire membership of the court.”
Justice O’Connor’s remarks were reported on Thursday in The Star-Telegram in Fort Worth.
Although the episode was not publicly disclosed when it occurred in April 2005, it had a public, although little-noticed, denouement last month when the sender of the poisoned cookies was sentenced in federal court here to 15 years in prison.
…recipients included the nine justices; the chiefs of staff of the Army, Navy, and Air Force; and the director and deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The packages, containing either candy or baked goods, were laced with rat poison.
Of course, the sender either was only proving a point, and didn’t want ot poison anyone, or was incredibly stupid. The yummies were sent with notes saying “THIS IS POISONED” or “WE WILL KILL YOU”. Charming.
i CERTIANLY believe the similiarity between this gesture, and Ann Coulters joke is worth looking at… Her joke was innappropriate when she made it, and is innapropriate after its been acted on. But then… I can think of very few things that make it out of Ann Coulters mouth that ARE ever appropriate. Perhaps she’ll moniter her jokes a little more closely after the FBI shows up to question her about whether the poisoner wannabe sent her any fan mail, or has any connection.
Eh, a girl can dream!
Still ints interesting to note teh difference in treatment…The woman who mailed the poisoned goods got 15 years in prison. Good punishment. But her action was CLEARLY that of a terrorist. Why hasn’t she been detained and moved to gitmo, classified as an enemy combatant? we’ve seen that they DO on occassion remove citizens in such a way…
So the only answer I can find to my “why’s”… Because HOME GROWN terrorists are inherently DIFFERENT than the “oil hogging arab religious extremists” that we attack.
Yeah, well you know what? NOT TO ME. If our judicial system is good enough for her, it is sure good enough for anyone ELSE we would claim has attempted to harm us. WE have managed to contain her WITHOUT torture, adn WITHOUT robbing her of her constitutional rights… Why is it so hard to extend that same courtesy to OTHERS? Cases like this only show we truly HAVE lost our moral compass! When Ann Coulters jokes are acceptable, and your race affects your judicial options for terrorism. WE ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
nolies32fouettes – Sat, 11/18/2006 – 1:26amNews and politics – Society – Effective government – Media – World – Healthnolies32fouettes’s blog – email this page – 2746 readshttp://www.boston.com/news/lohttp://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/02/conn_woman_pleads_guilty_to_mailing_poisoned_letters_to_justices/
interesting note at the end… THis woman was already convicted for mailing poisoned wine to several relatives!
Given that the incident was covered up, i wonder if Ann Coulter kNEW about it to joke so insensitively!
nolies32fouettes – Sat, 11/18/2006 – 2:10amlogin or register to post comments – email this pagehttp://washingtondc.fbi.gov/dhttp://washingtondc.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel06/wfo101106.htm
The FBI press release… scary stuff… her to do lists?
nolies32fouettes – Sat, 11/18/2006 – 2:12amlogin or register to post comments – email this pagescarier YET! In 1985,scarier YET!
In 1985, Barbara March tried to kill her brother and his wife, and had possibly planned to kill her mother.
Article below is from a Lexis-Nexis search, so I can’t link to it:The Associated Press State & Local WireJuly 1, 2005, Friday, BC cycleSECTION: State and RegionalLENGTH: 314 wordsHEADLINE: Bridgeport woman charged with threats to Supreme Court justices, FBI officialsDATELINE: BRIDGEPORT, Conn.
BODY:The FBI arrested a city woman accused of mailing death threats, some laced with rat poison, to each of the U.S. Supreme Court justices and FBI Director Robert Mueller.
Barbara March, 59, was charged with one count of mailing a threatening letter. A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office in Washington said Thursday the charge could change with a federal grand jury investigation.
Laboratory results determined that seven of the letters mailed to Supreme Court justices were laced with rat poison, the FBI said in an affidavit. The contents of two other letters sent to justices and two letters sent to Mueller and Deputy Director John S. Pistole are being analyzed by the FBI.
March, also known as Barbara McMahon and Bonnie McMahon, is being detained without bond at the York Correctional Institution in Niantic. A probable cause hearing has been set for July 11, but it will be canceled if an indictment is returned in Washington.
In 1985, March entered a no-contest plea and was found guilty of two counts of attempted murder and one count of carrying a pistol without a permit. She was charged with shooting at her brother, Richard March, and his wife.
Diane March was shot in the chest, and survived.
Richard March contacted U.S. postal inspectors several days later and turned over a bottle of wine mailed to his 65-year-old mother. Tests by the State Toxicology Laboratory determined it was laced with Benadryl, which, mixed with alcohol, could be lethal.
Investigators at the time found rat poison among March’s belongings.
March has been in state custody, the longest from Dec. 9, 1985, to June 29, 1989, except for two months during that time, said a spokesman for the state Department of Correction. She was incarcerated in 1992 for about a month and again in 1994 for a month.
nolies32fouettes – Sat, 11/18/2006 – 2:14amlogin or register to post comments – email this pageUm, no.First, this mailing happened in 2005, while Ms. Coulter’s comment happened in 2006. It’s temporally impossible for Ann Coulter’s remark to have prompted this.
Second, it should also be noted the sender sent these things to the heads of the armed services, the head of the FBI, and others, which Ann Coulter never suggested, and which is not even remotely a logical extrapolation from the Ann Coulter comment.
Third, the sender wasn’t actually going after these people. She put fake return addresses on the things and then included the letters that said they were poison, because she was trying to get the people whose return addresses she put on the packages in trouble.
Fourth, this is a free country. Much as it is entirely legal for people to openly call for a violent revolution to overthrow the government, or for soldiers to frag their officers, it is legal to call for the poisoning of public officials. That’s free speech, as established by the very same liberal Justices Ann Coulter hates so much.
So, to go after Ann Coulter over this, you have to ignore the Constitution of the United States, why the poisoned goods were sent, to whom they were sent, and when they were sent. Other than that, yeah, solid case.
warmongeringlunatic – Sat, 11/18/2006 – 5:02amlogin or register to post comments – email this pageNo, we can’t prosecute AnnNo, we can’t prosecute Ann Coulter for saying something in bad taste. And really, how many times have you heard someone say “I want to kill myself” or “I’m going to die?” They don’t really have suicidal tendencies, it’s just a saying. Ms. Coulter’s joke was definitely inappropriate, but so was Jackass, and that movie is still making money. This country has freedom of speech enshrined as one of its highest laws, and everyone needs to respect it. Even if there are some people we really wish had duct tape over their mouths.
Also, the woman is clearly mentally deranged, not a terrorist. If you really want to strike terror into the heart of the population, poisoning the leaders of the country would be a good way to go. But REAL terrorists DON’T PUT WARNING NOTES in their packages of poison. That’s called defeating your own purpose or shooting yourself in the foot. This woman is clearly not a terrorist (there is no cause of terror, except possibly for her acquaintances) and simply needs some time in a secure location where all her mail is checked and some good medications/therapy.
Because she is clearly not a terrorist, transferring her to Gitmo is out of the question.
featherwizard – Sat, 11/18/2006 – 8:00amlogin or register to post comments – email this pageI think her point is,I think her point is, justice extends to all, not just those that we dientify with because of nationality.
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The terms latino and hispanic are without meaning and I reject them. My mother was born in Cuba and my dad and all of my grandparents were born in Nothern Spain. I amnot a negro, mullato, mestizo or indio, I am White.
Once again, you treat the so-called holocaust as accepted “fact”, when it is not. Hitler did not have any jewish ancestry, that is just another vile lie.
V.L.R.B!!
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Damn, this may be how we can control the international monetary fund !!!
Ian: Did we get “off track” somewhere back there ?? OK, you are White ! And your point is ?? Your mother is from Cuba. Your father is from Northern Spain. Cool. You can be Ethiopian for all I care. Call yourself whatever melts your butter. That’s fine. How about the questions that were directly posed to you … Answer them under any guise you choose.
Come on, Santiago, quit BS’ing around and get down to answering the questions that were asked of you – such as why do you hate Jews?
Well…
Not to interrupt this meeting of the Ian Santiago fan club, but I am curious.
“Jew boy”? Are you a regular here under a different nic? Or, are you a reader who decided to start posting?
Well, JR, I regularly post under another well known name on this blog, notoriously liberal, of course.
The “Jew Boy” nic is strictly for Mr. Santiago’s benefit and it is a play on the old “jew boy” insult that was commonly used to address Jews in the Fifties and Sixties.
The “Jew Boy” nic was meant to draw Mr. Santiago out, but apparently he is just a facade.
I am partially Jewish, unknown to me until I was in my Forties. I am also partially NA, European and African American.
In other words, I am all that Mr. Santiago chooses to insult.
I really don’t have anything against Mr. Santiago’s free speech, but I truly would like to hear in his words why he is so virulently anti-Semitic.
It is easy enough to figure out my normal screen name – but that does not minimize my disgust with Mr. Santiago.
And now, back to this episode of the Ian Santiago Fan Club!
Don’t know who he is … but he makes sense, and has been around for “a while”, whatever that means. Whacko’s don’t usually pop in and pop out, because, genrally, they’re… well. just whackos !?! That’s all I know !
Jew Boy: Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you are Jewish or not. I am, and I appreciate your concern. My God doesn’t really give a damn what you call yourself… he cares how you live, how you treat your fellow man, how you are willing to stand up for others, who may not be able to defend themselves. I think you qualify absolutely. Thank you.
JB – I think you definitely have Ian’s number. I also think Ian is the only overt anti-Semite here. Ed is anti-Israel; I am anti-extreme-zionist. I think they are very different things.
For one thing, I don’t know that my position (which parallels that of Yitzak Rabin) is far from that of most Jews and maybe even most Israelis (other then the Settlers). I have a proposal that I believe would improve Israeli security.
Ed, OTOH, opposes Israel’s existence as a Jewish State. I disagree with him but can see his point based on the terrorism of the Stern Gang in the 40s. However, I see Israel as a Fait Accompli and try to look forward.
Ian, however … my hope is that he is just a spoof.
Jew boy
Ahh I see. I kinda figured that was the case.
Hey Ian? I’d be interested too in the source of your hatred.
You say your father was Spanish and your mother Cuban?Well, estimating your age, was your father part of Franco’s regime in Spain? Why did dad leave Spain? Changing political fortunes?
Ben and RM – I fully support the existence of a Palestinian state – to me, that is the ONLY solution to the violence in the middle East. What is fair for the Jews should also be fair for the Palestinians.
I do not have much faith in governments to solve the world’s problems, but it seems that PEOPLE have the answers. Most Palestinians and Israelis want to live in peace.
God, can we all stop a minute and just consider peace in the Middle East…….
I am certainly not a Zionist, but I would really like to know the source of Santiago’s anti-Semitism.
Life goes on, with or without Mr. Santiago.
Ok coconuts read my blog: my early life http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=123344840
Viva La raza Blanco.
Ian ???? Pass out? cardiac arrest? flee to Iberia ??? Whatever. You’ve gotten lost !!! See, we’re the good guys ! Touchdown, Dallas Cowboys — do you have a fucking clue how much more important that is than anything you have to say !!!
So Ian’s dad was molested by Mafia gansters and his mom was a whore?
Gather ’round, boys and girls, let me tell you a story about bullies. Santiago is a racist bully, but like most, he is all BS and no back up.
When I was a young man, about 100 years ago, I lived in Detroit. I was raking the leaves in my parent’s front yard when the neighborhood bully rode up on his bicycle. His name was Jim Pence and he was about fifteen. I was just thirteen years old. Jim terrified our neighborhood.
Pence rode up on his bike and challenged me to fight. Not knowing any better, I tossed my rake aside and prepared myself to fight. Jim Pence looked at me like I was crazy and rode off on his bicycle. He never bothered me again.
Jim Pence turned out to be just a bully with no (backbone.) After I faced him down, none of the kids in the neighborhood took him seriously again. No one was afraid of him anymore. All the kids in the neighborhood just laughed at him when he mouthed off.
The last I heard, Jim Pence was pumping gas at a station on the corner of Woodward and Twelve Mile Road.
I have done alright for myself.
Ian Santiago is just like Jim Pence – a poor excuse for a bully.
Ian Santiago is just pumping gas these days.
Jew Boy,
Nice job taking the high road today.
Ian Santiago,
Looking pretty sad and small, Ian. Jew Boy called you out and you ran away–not once, not twice, but again and again.
As for your Myspace site, Ian, we all know it’s yours. It rings true–especially the part that lists your number of friends as “0.” Even Tom from Myspace isn’t listed.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=6221
That ought to tell you something.