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BREAKING NEWS (Nov 2): Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection, a non-profit group exempt from political reporting, sponsored a radio commercial heard yesterday on KMAJ in Topeka about 6:15 AM. The ad claimed Kline is “snooping” around women’s medical records. It also said something like, “no wonder two former attorneys general refuse to support Kline.”
Snoop Dog Mailing #5 (KPP0604) has surfaced (will be put online as soon as possible).
Wichita Voters for Truth PAC surfaces with pro-abortion mailing in certain State Rep races in Wichita (will be put online as soon as possible). Three of the 4 known “Truth PAC” contributors are also contributors to the ProKanDo PAC. Two were underwriters for a June 2004 ProKanDo fundraising event.
Nov 1: Kansas City Star, Abortion politics a part of attorney general race, Reports show spending of almost $500,000 in efforts to oust Kline.http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/15897036.htm
“ProKanDo, the political action committee of Women’s Health Care Services, the Wichita abortion clinic run by George Tiller, reported campaign spending of $304,108 from July 21 to Oct. 26.”
“Its report showed spending of $81,247 on automated phone calls and another $95,700 in “member dues” to Kansans for Consumer Privacy Protection.”
[The next paragraph appeared in the Wichita Eagle's online version http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/state/15898705.htm , Abortion politics animates AG race, of this KC Star story but was missing from the Star's online and printed versions]
“That is the group identified in a ‘Snoop Dog Kline’ direct mail campaign accusing Kline of spending the last three years ’snooping through women’s private medical records on a personal crusade against abortion.’”
The Snoop Dog Page:http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/SnoopDogs/index.htm
Quote of the Day:
“There was not a single picture of any rainbow children in Schumann’s Neue Zeitschrift für Musik. Brahms forgot to include even one Togolese lullaby in his choral settings. And in all the centuries that preceded the PC age, no country suddenly elected to erase its borders or pay people to invade. In fact, everybody would have laughed at these notions back then – or cursed them.” ~ Nelson Waller
Viva La Raza Blanco!!!
Thanks for the morning scroll-over stuff, ian & meadowpoop.
AMERICA HELD HOSTAGE:
DAY 2112
Presidency held hostage:810 Days left.
Congress held hostage:65 Days left.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
Couldnt help but laugh at this one.
YOU KNOW, education, if you don’t study hard, if you surf through Yale smirking at those you see as your intellectual inferiors, and you don’t make an effort to learn your own limitations, you end up making lower grades than that Texan you despise, and the next thing you know, you lose a presidential election to the guy and then you’re back out there on the campaign trail two years later, and you make condescending remarks about the soldiers in Iraq, and at first you won’t apologize because, well, you still don’t get it.
http://www.al.com/opinion/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/opinion/11624629249950.xml&coll=3
Is there anyone planning to watch “Hacking Democracy” on HBO?
You might want to read my comment on the thread below titled “No Anniversary Banquet from Brooks to Corkins.” I tried to talk about the nebulous requirements for a leadership position. In it, I presented a ficticious interview of Harry S Truman for the job of Vice President by a “committee” in about 1944. I experimented with it but it came out pretty good. JWink
Since we won’t read it anywhere else in this tabloid I thought someone might appreciate reading the “Apology” sKerry made to our military men and women and the people who love and care for them.I was underwhelmed.
//I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.
It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.//
*No one misinterpreted anything. Kerry said what he said. He refuses to take responsibility for what comes out of his mouth but that is not new.
*The republicans are not the only ones talking about this remark. The failed candidate’s calendar will be quite clear for the forseeable future. He has become a political pariah, a modern day social leper. Even Democrats who want to retain a chance of getting elected steer clear of him.
It wasn’t a verbal slip, it was just the most blatant example yet of this individual’s hatred of the military, the country, it’s citizens and democracy as a whole.
I am disappointed that this quote was not used in it’s entirety. One can only make a intelligent decisions if given all of the facts. I thought that was the function of a newspaper.
Thanks sean.It’s been all over the TV.Seen it. Heard it.Now back to some real issues.
Roo Ha,I’m a regular working middle class guy with a family.Since my REAL buying power has decreased under this administration, I cannot afford HBO.
FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL
Koch backs Kline
It’s common for several maximum contributions to come from one company and its subsidiaries.
Companies owned by Koch Industries Inc., for example, gave at least $12,000 to Kline.
“We give to candidates regardless of political affiliation, and our support consistently has been with candidates that are open to market-based solutions to public policy issues,” said Katie Stavinoha, a Koch spokeswoman.
Charles Koch and Koch-affiliated companies have given at least $18,000 to Kline since 2002.”
Koch Industries have had numerous legal problems over the years; relating to workplace safety, environmental contamination, and other issues. Looks like they want to have a friend in the AG’s office.
Who Would Jesus Bomb?10 Reasons to Oppose War with Iraqby JOSH FRANK
1. War with Iraq won’t make us safer.
A unilateral attack by the United States will inflame anti-U.S. sentiment, feeding right into Bin Ladin’s own evil rhetoric, and may stimulate more attacks by fundamental extremists.
2. There is no imminent threat.
There is no hard evidence that Iraq has nuclear weapons. Recent UN reports suggests inspections have shown no evidence that Saddam’s robust nuclear program of the 1990s has continued. According to these same reports the United Nation’s believes Iraq has little means to deliver chemical and biological weapons to threaten countries in the Middle East, let alone the U.S.
3. A preemptive attack violates the U.N. charter.
The U.N. Charter forbids member countries from attacking another country except in self defense. If the U.S. puts itself above international law it will further encourage other nations to do the same. Not to mention the contradiction of the United States in relation to the numerous U.N. resolutions Israel has broken with their dealings of occupied territories of Palestine. While Israel continues to receive the majority of US foreign aid, totaling a staggering 1.6 trillion dollars since 1973, with over 50% supporting Israel military operations in Palestine.
4. Our allies don’t support us in this war.
U.S. allies in the Middle East oppose a U.S. attack on Iraq. Our European allies have urged the U.S. to work through the U.N. An invasion of Iraq would isolate the U.S. from the rest of the world and shatter the principles of international cooperation and mutual defense that are key to U.S. and global security.
5. Thousands of innocent people may die.
Pentagon estimates say that an invasion of Iraq could lead to the deaths of 10,000 innocent civilians. The CIA also reports that if Saddam does possess biological weapons, he is more likely to use them in defense if attacked by the US, putting even more of Iraqi civilians and US troops at risk of death.
6. Young American men and women will fight and die.
U.S. military action and possible occupation is likely to produce far more casualties than the previous Gulf War or the war in Afghanistan. Many combatants will suffer physical and psychological repercussions for years after the war ends.
7. Funding for education, environment and health care is already being cut in order to pay for the “war on terror.”
Estimates put the cost of a war with Iraq at $60-$100 billion with ongoing billions for occupation and rebuilding Iraq, a drunken thought if one realizes our economy is currently suffering an awful recession. Also the environmental impact of another Gulf War could potentially threaten even more oil reserves, and endangered species (if set on fire like the first Gulf War), as well as contributing greatly to global warming- which Bush after his 2003’s State of the Union address- is acknowledging actually exists.
8. Things may not be better after a war.
We have no guarantee that a new regime in Iraq will make life any better for the Iraqi people, who already live under a tyrannical dictator. Or that Iraq will be any friendlier to the U.S. than Saddam currently is. The Taliban were once our allies in Afghanistan. Will the new regime in Iraq become our enemy after a few years as well?
9. There are other options.
The U.S. can work through the U.N. using mechanisms such as the resumption of weapons inspections, negotiation, mediation, regional arrangements, and other peaceful means. Most significantly trying Saddam in an international court of law for War Crimes, such as was done post-Bosnia conflict for Slobodan Milosevic, is an option. This may also entail prosecuting certain United State’s officials and companies who openly supplied Saddam with biological components.
10. The American people have deep misgivings about this war.
Many people know deep down that this war makes no sense. They are starting to speak up and make themselves heard. You can add your voice to activities in your own community. In the rhetoric of our President Bush, a proclaimed Christian, one must wonder, has he ever thought-”Who would Jesus bomb?’ The response surely would not be the innocent people of Iraq who have already suffered greatly because of Saddam, along with the U.N. sanctions supported and controlled by the United States.
Just wanted to point out somewhere that Values-Boy’s article today didn’t anywhere for any reason address anything on morals/ethics/or values. It was 100% politics. I don’t care if he writes editorials as the “Religious Right boy” but his total unwillingness to see beyond his party lines makes his moniker a total farce.
Tracy,About HBO, neither do I subscribe. I was looking for those who do and plan to watch it, as to give some reviews and assessment on the program.
Here’s how the Republicans are trying to win this election:
President Bush himself is trying to scare voters with ridiculous claims, saying that “terrorists win and America loses” if Democrats were to take control of Congress.In Missouri, Michael J. Fox recently appeared in a heartfelt ad for Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill, criticizing the Republican incumbent’s opposition to stem cell research. The GOP smear machine immediately attacked Fox and McCaskill, with Rush Limbaugh even suggesting Fox was faking his symptoms of Parkinson’s disease in the ad.In Tennessee, the Republican Party ran racist ads aimed at dredging up some of the worst racial prejudices imaginable. The ads attacking Democratic Senate candidate Harold Ford, who is African-American, show a scantily clad white woman beckoning to him. The ad is so bad that some TV stations are refusing to run it, and non-political companies have fired the Republican consultants who made it. The RNC refused to denounce the disgusting ad, despite a public outcry.In California, one Republican campaign took a page from the national GOP playbook, which calls for suppressing minority voters at every opportunity. The campaign sent a false and deliberately misleading mailing to Hispanics in the district that threatened jail time for any immigrant — legal or not — who tried to vote.
How our soldiers die in Iraq …
“Revealed: U.S. Soldier Killed Herself After Objecting to Interrogation TechniquesThe true stories of how American troops, killed in Iraq, actually died keep spilling out this week. Now we learn, thanks to a reporter’s FOIA request, that one of the first women to die in Iraq shot and killed herself after objecting to harsh “interrogation techniques.”
By Greg Mitchell
(November 01, 2006) — The true stories of how American troops, killed in Iraq, actually died keep spilling out this week. On Tuesday, we explored the case of Kenny Stanton, Jr., murdered last month by our allies, the Iraqi police, though the military didn’t make that known at the time. Now we learn that one of the first female soldiers killed in Iraq died by her own hand after objecting to interrogation techniques used on prisoners.
She was Army specialist Alyssa Peterson, 27, a Flagstaff, Az., native serving with C Company, 311th Military Intelligence BN, 101st Airborne. Peterson was an Arabic-speaking interrogator assigned to the prison at our air base in troubled Tal-Afar in northwestern Iraq. According to official records, she died on Sept. 15, 2003, from a “non-hostile weapons discharge.” ”
more …
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/11/01/us-soldier-killed-herself-after-objecting-to-torture/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.editorandpublisher.com%2Feandp%2Fcolumns%2Fpressingissues_display.jsp%3Fvnu_content_id%3D1003345862&frame=true
Cut-and-run -
Abandoning An American Soldier
While the media is obsessed parsing the ad libs of someone on no ballot this fall, something truly ominous has just happened in Iraq. The commander-in-chief has abandoned an American soldier to the tender mercies of a Shiite militia. Yes, there are nuances here, and the NYT fleshes out the story today. But the essential fact is clear. In a showdown for control of Baghdad, the Iraqi prime minister took orders from Moqtada al-Sadr, and instructed the U.S. military to withdraw from Sadr City. The American forces were trying both to stabilize the city but also to find a missing American serviceman. He is still missing.
more …
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/11/01/george-w-bush-just-abandoned-a-us-soldier-behind-enemy-lines/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftime.blogs.com%2Fdaily_dish%2F2006%2F11%2Fabandoning_an_a.html&frame=true
The NRA endorsed 18 Democrats in Kansas Congressional Districts this year. One was rated A-, one A+, and the rest A. Please don’t tell me the NRA is “Right Wing” or a tool of the Republican party.
More “stay the course” …
Military Charts Movement of Conflict in Iraq Toward Chaos
By MICHAEL R. GORDONPublished: November 1, 2006WASHINGTON, Oct. 30 — A classified briefing prepared two weeks ago by the United States Central Command portrays Iraq as edging toward chaos, in a chart that the military is using as a barometer of civil conflict.
A one-page slide shown at the Oct. 18 briefing provides a rare glimpse into how the military command that oversees the war is trying to track its trajectory, particularly in terms of sectarian fighting.
The slide includes a color-coded bar chart that is used to illustrate an “Index of Civil Conflict.” It shows a sharp escalation in sectarian violence since the bombing of a Shiite shrine in Samarra in February, and tracks a further worsening this month despite a concerted American push to tamp down the violence in Baghdad.
In fashioning the index, the military is weighing factors like the ineffectual Iraqi police and the dwindling influence of moderate religious and political figures, rather than more traditional military measures such as the enemy’s fighting strength and the control of territory.
The conclusions the Central Command has drawn from these trends are not encouraging, according to a copy of the slide that was obtained by The New York Times. The slide shows Iraq as moving sharply away from “peace,” an ideal on the far left side of the chart, to a point much closer to the right side of the spectrum, a red zone marked “chaos.” As depicted in the command’s chart, the needle has been moving steadily toward the far right of the chart.
An intelligence summary at the bottom of the slide reads “urban areas experiencing ‘ethnic cleansing’ campaigns to consolidate control” and “violence at all-time high, spreading geographically.” According to a Central Command official, the index on civil strife has been a staple of internal command briefings for most of this year. The analysis was prepared by the command’s intelligence directorate, which is overseen by Brig. Gen. John M. Custer.
Gen. John P. Abizaid, who heads the command, warned publicly in August about the risk of civil war in Iraq, but he said then that he thought it could be averted. In evaluating the prospects for all-out civil strife, the command concentrates on “key reads,” or several principal variables.
According to the slide from the Oct. 18 briefing, the variables include “hostile rhetoric” by political and religious leaders, which can be measured by listening to sermons at mosques and to important Shiite and Sunni leaders, and the amount of influence that moderate political and religious figures have over the population. The other main variables are assassinations and other especially provocative sectarian attacks, as well as “spontaneous mass civil conflict.”
A number of secondary indicators are also taken into account, including activity by militias, problems with ineffective police, the ability of Iraqi officials to govern effectively, the number of civilians who have been forced to move by sectarian violence, the willingness of Iraqi security forces to follow orders, and the degree to which the Iraqi Kurds are pressing for independence from the central government.
These factors are evaluated to create the index of civil strife, which has registered a steady worsening for months. “Ever since the February attack on the Shiite mosque in Samarra, it has been closer to the chaos side than the peace side,” said a Central Command official who asked not to be identified because he was talking about classified information.
In the Oct. 18 brief, the index moved still another notch toward “chaos.” That briefing was prepared three days before General Abizaid met in Washington with President Bush, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to take stock of the situation in Iraq.
A spokesman for the Central Command declined to comment on the index or other information in the slide. “We don’t comment on secret material,” the spokesman said.
One significant factor in the military’s decision to move the scale toward “chaos” was the expanding activity by militias.
Another reason was the limitations of Iraqi government security forces, which despite years of training and equipping by the United States, are either ineffective or, in some cases, infiltrated by the very militias they are supposed to be combating. The slide notes that “ineffectual” Iraqi police forces have been a significant problem, and cites as a concern sectarian conflicts between Iraqi security forces.
Other significant factors are in the political realm. The slide notes that Iraq’s political and religious leaders have lost some of their moderating influence over their constituents or adherents.
Notably, the slide also cites difficulties that the new Iraqi administration has experienced in “governance.” That appears to be shorthand for the frustration felt by American military officers about the Iraqi government’s delays in bringing about a genuine political reconciliation between Shiites and Sunnis. It also appears to apply to the lack of reconstruction programs to restore essential services and the dearth of job creation efforts to give young Iraqis an alternative to joining militias, as well as the absence of firm action against militias.
The slide lists other factors that are described as important but less significant. They include efforts by Iran and Syria to enable violence by militias and insurgent groups and the interest by many Kurds in achieving independence. The slide describes violence motivated by sectarian differences as having moved into a “critical” phase.
The chart does note some positive developments. Specifically, it notes that “hostile rhetoric” by political and religious leaders has not increased. It also notes that Iraqi security forces are refusing less often than in the past to take orders from the central government and that there has been a drop-off in mass desertions.
Still, for a military culture that thrives on PowerPoint briefings, the shifting index was seen by some officials as a stark warning about the difficult course of events in Iraq, and mirrored growing concern by some military officers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/01/world/middleeast/01military.html?_r=5&hp&ex=1162443600&en=ae294d1d13aed188&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=slog&oref=login
Heckler, that’s great!Dems need more “tools”.I’m not exactly a tree hugging dem.More of a gun-toting Dem.Hooray for concealed carry!!
Tracy
Have you taken your training yet?
Keeping some rather unsavory company lately aren’t you Tracy?
Wichita Eagle I call AGAIN for you to demand that Todd Tiahrt debate his democrat challenger Garth McGinn or that you explain why you will not hold Tiahrt accountable to his constituents. If you will not do that then at least give us a thread to discuss the matter.
I see our gutless troll is back. The 8:26 post was not me.
Lets all vote wherever we want – just like Ann Coulter!
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Conservative columnist Ann Coulter has refused to cooperate in an investigation into whether she voted in the wrong precinct, so the case will probably be turned over to prosecutors, Palm Beach County’s elections chief said Wednesday.
Elections Supervisor Arthur Anderson said his office has been looking into the matter for nearly nine months, and he would turn over the case to the state attorney’s office by Friday.
Who is running for Governor? Some Web pages…
Governor/Lieutenant Governor
•Kathleen Sebelius/Mark Parkinson (D)http://www.ksgovernor.com/ShowPage.asp?page=default.asp•Jim Barnett/Susan Wagle (R)http://www.barnettforgovernor.com/•Carl Kramer/Kalor A. Hebron (L)http://www.kramer-hebron-campaign.org/•Richard Lee Ranzau/ Ellen L. Verell (RF)http://www.freedomforkansas.com/freedom/index.html
The more Bush bashes Kerry about his comments, the more people will be reminded that Kerry isn’t running the country . . . running it into the effing ground I mean.
Good morning, SM, enjoy your irrational hate of all things Kerry, and while you’re at it, consider this verse, Matt 7: 3-5
“Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but don’t consider the beam that is in your own eye?
“Or how will you tell your brother,’Let me remove the speck from your eye;’ and behold, the beam is in your own eye?
“You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye.”
Have a blessed day!
Roo Haa,
I’m hoping to watch the HBO documentary. Thanks for reminding me! I’ll check the listings for it.
Allie you are correct about values boy. He is a republican shill with a religious right frosting. And the WE thinks we are too stupid to notice?
How many times have I said the WE should be ashamed to have him writing his hack pieces?
I mean, he criticises Raj for raising money for a job that pays $23,000, but HOW MUCH DID BON BON RAISE FOR THAT SAME $23,000 job?
Maybe instead of values boy we should call him “Fair and Balanced Boy”? It would have about the same ring of truthiness as his so called values. He is about as fair and balanced as fux news.
The WE must be so proud.
So… I guess values boy thinks it is ok to allow parents to force their 14 year old daughters, who are NOT old enough to give consent or sign a contract, to get married?
Would that be the “family” values part of values boy?
I mean, child forced marriage is bonbon huy’s position, so values boy must agree?
I also see he conveniently left out the part that bonbon also took money from casino operators in northeast kansas and then paid those casino operators back by blocking YOUR VOTE on gambling?
Nice of you to leave it out values boy, but the stink of “votes for sale” bonnie just wont wash off. Like the cheap perfume she wears, it just lingers in the air.
Oh, and values boy, maybe you can point to all those businesses that came rushing to locate in kansas, and particularly wichita when the hate amendment passed?
Bonbon promised that would happen. So show us, oh wise one. Habeas Corpus. Produce the body of ONE business that located in wichita for that reason.
So… she believes in child marriage, she lives in a fantasy world where businesses base their decisions on which state hates the most, and she sells her votes to casino operators for a few pieces of silver?
And the right religious republicans support her?
Wanna address THOSE family values, mr values boy?
Jesus wept brent. Jesus wept buckets.
Don’t be too hard on v-Boy. After all, Mother Mary was under age as well, not to mention to be pregnant out of wedlock…
Olbermann’s response to the ridiculous bruhaha over Kerry’s comments.
Video and transcript
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15519404/
The thing about Castillo is that he not only expresses nothing by ordinary, mundane ideas, he uses a style that never rises about the merely conventional.
I mean, don’t you have to have some talent or at least flair to be a professional writer these days?
This guy’s idea of “panache” is tossing in a hackneyed metaphor.
by = butabout = above
Man, do I need an editor my own self.
kfg: Castillo admits upfront that he is a conservative. Did you really expect him to agree with you? On anything? Chuckle..
IF the WE were interested in balance, then they would have at least one conservative on the editorial staff.
But thems the breaks kiddo.
Thus, having him proves once for all that WE is a conservative paper, not some liberal rags many wants to believe, correct?
He sure delivered on his promise outie. No balance. No sense. No brains.
Keep voting republican outie. It’s easier than thinking.
Gee Rhonda sure is getting a bashing. First some troll calls her the ugliest woman in the world, and now outies says she isnt a conservative?
Six impossible things before breakfast Alice. Six impossible things.
I guess Cal Thomas is a liberal? Like Rhonda?
Where is that damn fainting couch when we need it.
Again, if you think outie and sollie are brilliant, you know who to vote for.
If you think outie and trolls like sollie are what is WRONG with America, vote against the wingnuts.
The choices couldnt be more clear.
NO WINGNUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KFG, speaking of WINGNUTS:
Ann Coulter voting case could go to prosecutors
By BRIAN SKOLOFFAssociated Press
November 1, 2006, 3:10 PM EST
WEST PALM BEACH — Conservative columnist Ann Coulter has refused to cooperate in an investigation about whether she voted in the wrong precinct, so the case will likely be turned over to state prosecutors, Palm Beach County’s elections chief said Wednesday.
Elections Supervisor Arthur Anderson said his office has been looking into the matter for nearly nine months, and he would turn over the case to the state attorney’s office by Friday.
Coulter’s attorney did not immediately return a telephone message Wednesday and her telephone number in Palm Beach is unpublished. A message left for Tara Gilbride, a publicist for Coulter’s publisher, The Crown Publishing Group, owned by Random House Inc., was also not immediately returned.
Anderson’s office received a complaint in February that Coulter allegedly voted in the wrong precinct during a Feb. 7 Palm Beach town council election. Since then, Anderson said he has made repeated attempts to resolve the matter with Coulter and her attorney but has been rebuffed.
Anderson said an initial letter was sent to Coulter on March 27 requesting that she clarify her address for the voting records “or face the possibility of her voter registration being rescinded.”
Three more letters were sent to Coulter and her attorney over the next several months, but she has yet to respond with the information requested, Anderson said.
In July, Anderson said, he received a letter from Coulter’s attorney, Marcos Daniel Jimenez D’Clouet. The letter said the attorney would only discuss the matter in person or by telephone because he complained Anderson had given details to the media. Anderson said the matter had to be discussed in writing.
Knowingly voting in a wrong precinct is a third-degree felony punishable by up to five years in prison, said Mike Edmondson, a spokesman for the state attorney’s office in West Palm Beach.
Edmondson said his office generally reviews such cases, then turns them over to local authorities for a full investigation that could result in an arrest if intent is proven.
Heckler, NOPE.I’m not even sure where to go.
Sorry JR.Concealed carry MAY BE the only think heckler and I agree on here.I can’t pass up a chance to be friends to a right-winger. HAYou know, kinda like Stephen Colbert’s “black friend”.Just a joke Heck.Don’t come gunning, please.
P.S., my only brother is right-wing and I still respect him.And there’s no such thing as too many friends.
Yeah Tracy, voting fraud, praise for Timothy McVeigh, advocating blowing up the NYT… and she’s hank and nathan’s idol.
Like foley the republican protected pedophile. Like the little ayatollah terry.
They are known by the company they keep.
I’m starting to smell another verse to the “Muther Truck’in GLIB Blues”!!The words are starting to swarm!
Question 5 days to the election for Democrats:
How will you measure success on Tuesday?
-Taking back control of the House and/or Senate?
-Further chipping away at the Republican majority (for instance pick up 10 seats, but still not have control)?
I’m just wanting to get everyone’s take so there can’t be any spin come Tuesday night/Wednesday.Let’s hedge our bets and lay out what we each view as victory on Tuesday now.
In the current landscape for Republicans, keeping control of House and Senate will be it for me.
Hey heroine should be cheaper this year
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HK01Df01.html
So far the poppy-eradication program, largely funded by the US, hasn’t made a dent. Last year, it claimed to have destroyed 15,380 hectares of poppies, up from 4,850 the year before; but during the same period overall poppy cultivation soared from 104,000 hectares to 165,000.
When the Bush administration invaded Afghanistan in October 2001, poppies were grown on only 7,600 hectares. Under the US occupation that followed the defeat of the Taliban, poppy cultivation spread to every province, and overall production has increased exponentially ever since – this year by 60%.
What If…(Satirical Political Ad for Morrison)
http://mccluer.name/morcamp.jpg
So KIA, if the r’s lose EITHER the house or the senate you will consider it a republican defeat?
He must own diebold stock or be related to hugo chavez…..
That’s my view yea Farmgrl.Honestly it feels like defeat to lose probably 12 seats, but like I said in the current landscape, just holding on to the control will be victory.So yes to make a long story short, gloat it up on Tuesday night/Wednesday if the Dems take control of either.
JM,This last one is much better. It gives you a window into R thinking, for those of you who would like to see that.
“Tiller Tea” – that kills me.
Dem victory:
Pick up at least one house of Congress.
KS – AG and Gov.
I’ll consider it a HUGE victory if you all send bonnie “gambling votes for sale” HUY home too retirement.
If you send bonnie “I heart child marriage” HUY back to topeka…
…. you all get the government you deserve.
Heh, thanks for that .morg.
It’s what I keep saying. Bush SAYS he’s for personal responsibility and against drugs.
That’s much more important to the rapture right than all the cheap, high-quality heroin flooding world markets because of Bush policies.
Get it straight–it’s not what you do, it’s what you THINK.
Look at Mark Foley and Jim Kolbe and Dan Gurley and Ken Mehlman and all the rest of the gay Republicans. It’s not what we do, it’s the line we toe that matters.
If the Dems do not take at least ONE house, it will prove to me that
The voting system is SO rigged that elections are no longer credible and I would welcome UN investigations of our elections.
OR
That the American people are so far gone that there is no saving them and America is finished. Time to start scouting a new place to live and raise my kid.
The Repbulicans have SO screwed things up that they MUST be voted out. Any other result says America is over.
Hey JR, might I suggest Spain or South Africa?
They now have better civil liberties, personal privacy, and equal justice than, well, you know the rest…..
you wingers must be so proud to have relinquished first place.
JR – before I would jump to that conclusion I would want to compare official results with exit poll results.
Dem vistory:
Morrison takes KS AG
One more conservative off of the KS school board
Take majority of either the US Senate or House
A Dem takes Foley’s seat (er, I mean office)
David Cook gets >40% in 83rd district race
Looky here: another prominent evangelical, Ted Haggard (a big time pastor in Colorado Springs) turns out to be a cocksucking man-whore. Or, at least, to have paid such a cock-sucking man whore.
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=a73db9d1-0abe-421a-01ee-15ec09b8ff7d&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf
Not that there’s anything wrong with that, mind you. I just don’t think the GOP fundo base is going to be too pleased.
J R,
Go ahead and make plans to move. I rigged the voting results in Kansas with my ray gun to only select Republican.
Thought I might write that in case Democrats lose and you need a conspiracy theory.
Well Alec Baldwin never used that moving truck to France he had loaded up in 2004. Maybe you can borrow it.
Both parties are pretty fractured, so in the House winning a simpe majority can’t be considered a victory. What I mean is, if either party holds anything less than or equal to something like a 5-seat majority, then then incentives offered to moderates of either party — to abandon the party line and join the opposition — become so large that neither party would really control the House. True for both R’s and D’s.
Not so true in the Senate, where the R’s have ruled ni fiat since 2002 with a 1-2 seat majority.
Dems have to pick up 20 seats to really win in the House. And although I think that the writing may be on the wall for the USA if the Dems do not win, my rational side forces me to hold the belief that the certain GOP structural advantages (gerrymandered Congressional districts) as well as certain GOP party-cohesion advantages (the 72-hour push; advance voting; election-day “help others get out and vote” activities) will make 20 a very, very, VERY difficult number to hit.
My prediction: R’s in the House, by 2; R’s in the Senate, by 1. I would LOVE to be proved wrong on this come Wednesday next week.
Sibelius, Kline, Tiahrt, Ryun, Moore, Moran.
Don’t follow the KBOE closely, but I hope the creationists get tossed out on their brains, which since they sit on them whenever they’re in a chair anyway can’t hurt ‘em much.
I think British Columbia would be pretty nice. Maybe a little cool and damp, but certainly beautiful. One of my heros (and creater of the term “cyberspace” and the developer of the cyberpunk genre) William Gibson lives in B.C.
“…if either party holds anything less than or equal to something like a 5-seat majority, then then incentives offered to moderates of either party — to abandon the party line and join the opposition — become so large that neither party would really control the House. True for both R’s and D’s.”
I am not sure I see a problem with the above scenario — kinda sounds like bipartisanship.
The Dems and the nation win, in my view, if the Republican rubber stamp is removed.
“Sebelius, Kline, Tiahrt, Ryun, Moore, Moran.”
Agree with these predictions, except Kline. I think that race may be too close to call.
Ryun is not a lock. If he was, p(resident) wouldn’t be making a stop to campaign for him.
Ya know? If things were switched. If it was MY side in power and folks on the other side were starting to doubt the country? I wouldn’t make light of it. I’d try make my side a little more ammicable and wonder what they were doing wrong…..
Honesty in government – Tiahrt style.
http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/tiahrt_fundraisers_delay_abramoff_510.htm
PAYING THE TABCongressman who defended DeLay says three fundraisers with Abramoff associates went unreportedBy John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor
A stalwart congressional supporter of embattled House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) has confirmed to RAW STORY that in-kind donations for several fundraisers held at skyboxes believed maintained by fallen lobbyist Jack Abramoff were not reported until this year.
The congressman, Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-KS), amended his campaign finance filings in February and April, listing three in-kind donations from the Greenberg Traurig political action committee, a fund managed by Abramoff’s former firm. The events dated from 2001, 2002 and 2003.
JR:
“If it was MY side in power and folks on the other side were starting to doubt the country?”
Ya know, pre-94 and especially pre-Reagan , many conservatives felt EXACTLY that way – your side WAS in power, and we FEARED for the future of the country.
Honestly, though the R’s do not deserve to win, returning real power to the party of Pelosi and Kennedy is more than a bit unsettling. It may well happen, however.
Prediction? R’s keep one house – which one is a toss-up. The other will be so close as to be unmanable with out bi-partisanship. But with 2008 looming, and the Presidency up for grabs with no heir apparants on either side (despite Hillary’s attempts to portray herself as same), bipartisanship is too much to hope for. Instead, we’ll get gridlock. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
I hear CNN will interview Michael J Fox tonight. I hope Fox hits back hard against that sonofabitch Rush Limbaugh.
And in any case, the Rep. losses will be less than the usual number, historically, for a president’s party in an off-year election, especially during a second term.
Wonder what, if anything, that means? Do those historical trends mean anything anymore?
I pose a question: Suppose the Senate is 49-49 plus Chafee (R-RI) and Lieberman (?-CT). Chafee is anti-war; Lieberman pro-war. How do they caucus when time comes to organize the Senate?
The LA Times reports that NASA is going to repair the Hubble Telescope, giving the most amazing telescope ever built a new lease on life.
The project is a little bit risky because the telescope-servicing space shuttle will be too far from the International Space Station to get help, but a backup shuttle will be readied to perform a rescue mission if needed.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-hubble1nov01,0,3816114.story?page=2&coll=la-news-science
Rumor is… that a new poll shows garth mcginn just 5 percentage points from Tiahrt…
Heartlander that is great news!
cin that is WONDERFUL news!
well I just phoned todd tiahrts office in Washington.
The number is 202 225 3121..
Anyway. All I wanted to do is leave a short message.
It started like this.
I just wanted to say that I am calling from Wichita KS. I think that it is a disgrace that my own congressman doesn’t have the spine to come home and debate. He is hiding behind his commercials, and even Phil Kline….
At that point she started shouting me down…
I asked if she would let me finish..
Then she hung up on me.
Some democracy we’ve got going right here in the fourth congressional district.
Shouting you down?
heheheheh
I just LOVE the smell of desperation in the air……
hmmm -
You’ve answered part of your question. Chafee will caucus with the republicans. Lieberman has already said that if he wins (and he is likely to), he’d caucus with the Dems. That leaves the VP to break the tie, and thus a Rep. Senate.
These stalinist campus cretins need to be eradictaed!
School officials: Recant beliefs or no degree
A social work student at Missouri State University has filed a lawsuit alleging the school required her to adopt a position in support of homosexual adoption as a precondition to getting her degree.
According to news reports, Dr. Frank Kaufman — an assistant professor in MSU’s School of Social Work on the Springfield campus and a member of the Faculty Senate at MSU — assigned his students a project promoting homosexual foster homes and adoption. The students were required to write and individually sign a letter to the Missouri legislature in support of homosexual adoption. Emily Brooker says she refused to sign the letter because of her religious convictions, and alleges she was punished for taking that stand.
Brooker says the school subjected her to a grievance hearing where school officials told her she had violated three of the “Standards of Essential Functioning in Social Work Education”: diversity, interpersonal skills, and professional behavior. The social work student is now suing the university for a violation of her First Amendment rights. Her attorney, David French with the Alliance Defense Fund, claims his client was interrogated for two-and-a-half hours by faculty members about the matter.
French describes the entire situation as “really an amazing case.” He explains that at the December 2005 hearing she was “punished, forced to undergo close monitoring for the rest of her career at the university, and forced to write things, again, that she disagreed with in order to graduate.”Full articlehttp://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=10601
Viva la Revolucion Blanco!!
yep…
she was in a foul mood…
someone needs to tell todd, that some of that democracy we are so liberally spreading around the globe could use some spreading right hear in Wichita…
It is called a campaign Todd. You work for us. You need to answer questions about your record.
Come home and show some spine.Debate…Debate..Debate….
Cin,
Maybe you should have cordially invited him to a debate…
…instead of talking about disgrace and spineless ness.
Just a thought…
Let’s see. Oedi-bush rex is coming to KS to shore up Ryun’s campaign, while KS’ own delegate is too chicken to even come anywhere near. Yep, I’m referring to you, TT-boy!
Hey,Kansas is making the prime time.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061102/pl_nm/usa_elections_kansas_dc_1
he has been cordially invited to many debates…
if you saw his interview on ksn the other evening…
the way he squirmed in the interview..
what an arrogant self serving jerk..
what was he said??
I am getting my message out in my commercials…and I am just too busy..
There simply is no more time for cordial.
cin, ya’ should of been phony and dug for dirt covertly before you asked your evil lib question.That’s the shit they understand.Not being a standup guy and true to your people.Sad, really, really sad.
thanks tracy…
maybe that will be my next approach.
I guess the Phil Kline has more spine thing didn’t go over well..
Oh one other thing. When I mentioned that tiarht was hiding behind his money…
She got all huffy and actually said Tiahrt didn’t have any money…
and then I said…wh wh.wh wh what…in a you’ve got to be joking tone..
He ’s got a huge war chest, then she said…”well I meant personally”
cin, where can we examine that poll? I’m a skeptic. I can’t even find a website for our Kansas-native candidate. Google and ask.com searches nada. I tried using “www.garthmcguinn.com”, “mcguinnforcongress.com” but got nothing. “mcguinn.com” leads to Byrds legend Roger McGuinn’s website. Can anybody help here?
heart, it’s McGinn, IIRC. Don’t have a URL for you.
It would help if I could spell correctly, wouldn’t it? I guess I’ve tipped my hand that I’m an old Byrds fan. ;-)
If all goes well on CNN, Marty McFly will take the gentleman’s high road and not lambast Rush. You can, if it is possible, with a gentle word, make Rush make even more foolish than he already is.
It is a great tactic. Grab the moral high ground and say, oh, tut, tut, you know Rush gets all excited sometimes…..
And now for a change of pace…
I would like to thank our local soldiers, that is the Wichita Police Department.
Our police are out there everyday protecting and serving. Thanks Wichita Police for being our soldiers, we appreciate you!
He looks good. Senior systems analyst for LSI Logic, a 21st century infotech company. A scientific thinker. Not a political hack. Of course we don’t know if he can speak in tongues like his Pentacostal opponent, but should we hold that against him?
Rush will have to pay for his sins. He may have thought beating up on a cripple was fun, but it shows he is very sick. People who gleefully imbibe his poison aren’t patriots. They’re sickos.
That would be my guess too GMC. Now for another one: Dems 50, Reps 49, and Lieberman. He has said he will caucus D but …
He could swing the poser to the R’s by teaming with them and Cheney on a 50-50 …
If Lieberman wins, I imagine there might be a few ‘payback’ votes he would like to distribute.
heartlander:
I am trying to get verification on it. I have to admit that I was a bit of skeptic too.
I have seen just a small thing on it, but as soon as I find out more about it I will post it.
Just remember though. This is not a normal election. My uncle is a dr. He has voted republican his entire life. He has never missed an election. But this year he isn’t voting. He is furious with republicans across the board. If there scores like him, that could pose some problems.
Had Tiahrt had the spine to debate, there is no doubt Garth McGinn would be running even or above him right now.
The short interview done by KSN the other night was the only thing I have seen with both the men being interviewed back to back.
Tiarht looked very uncomfortable. He should.McGinn, seemed sincere, and decent. He is way better for us as a leader. He is better for our future in so many ways. It is time to change leadership.
hmmmm
I don’t see Leiberman doing that. Though certainly I’m sure there’s some payback coming.
cin, that’s a great one about Tiarht not having any money.
A. Congressmen are allowed to use their campaign money to travel home, and well, campaign, including costs traveling to TV stations to debate.
B. Of course he may not have “personal money”. When you’re rich, you put you’re money in trusts. Sometimes registered in foreign countries.
C. Then, again, the real big payoffs often come from post-office-holding lobbyist positions. (High profile ex-pols can also make beaucudal bucks from speech honoraria and books, sometimes ghost-authored. But TT would only be able to get tiny amounts in the former, and nothing in the latter, unless he does an expose, which seems unlikely.)
Actually, I shouldn’t say that TT couldn’t make a bundle on speeches. Once you are in the private sector, who’s to say some “friends” couldn’t arrange for him to give 20 speeches at $100,000 a pop?
Perhaps paid to an Isle of Man trust, which has no income tax?
heartlander..when she told me that he didn’t have any money…I was speechless.
First of all I was just making a comment about how he was hiding behind his money..his commercials.
She took it for some reason on a personal level.It was so such a stupid thing to say.
So it got me thining about all of the pay raises has he had since he has been in washington. His salary is huge.
I am sick and tired of their arrogance.
And I have to say, although not entirely surprised she hung up on me, It offended me.
Since when do they get to treat people like that. It’s the rush Limbaugh talk down to anyone that doesn’t agree with you…And it is the same attitude they hold about debating. Todd Tiahrt doesn’t think he has to answer to anyone.
He should be voted out of office just on that alone.
Sebelius debated Barnett. Kline debated Morrison. I respect them both for that. Tiahrt lacks the courage to debate McGinn.
heartlander-Didn’t Clinton make a couple of bucks making speeches?
hmmm…
you hit it right on..
Phil Kline may be a goober, but he was still the encumbent, and he had big money, and he still had the spine to defend his record.
And not just one debate. There have been zillions of them. Then the same with the race for governor. They have debated over and over.
There was even a debate between the lt. governors..
I have zilch respect for Tiahrt now.
Dingus,Easy. Neither.
We do not need Garth McGinn as a member of the House of Representatives from the state of Kansas. This is a republican state, where 70% of the voting population votes Republican and he would not represent us. He will not be able to change anything, he’d just be a puppet for the Democratic party. He wouldn’t be on any committees that Kansas would benefit from; he has no experience, he wouldn’t be able to change any culture. We need to win the war on terror and right now the terrorist would love to see him win the election. That would lead to more friction in the government, we don’t need any more Kerry’s, we need someone who will support the troops, who will support our President and that’s not McGinn. We have good leadership now, he would not be good support for that leadership, he would not represent us, which is what we have now.
There is that nameless “weneed” again and with the same post word for word from yesterday!
I am gonna guess “weneed” is a Tiahrt operative shill sent here to deal with the ONE forum that is demanding Tiahrt be held accountable.
Hey “weneed” let me take a second opportunity to call Todd Tiahrt a hiding, dodging, chickeshit. And I will again call you poultry leavings as well.
You’ve got no name here “weneed. Hang around and defend your boss and yourself or bother us no more.
There are 2 reasons for reposting the message, JR, 1) it important to say We need a Tiahrt, not another shrill Democratic whiner who is will to sell out the country for the “party”. McGinn doesn’t understand the need for the war on terrorist any more than you do.2) I also wanted to give you the opportunity to have another come apart, cuss, rant and rave, name call just as you did. It demonstrates how we don’t need a political party in power that represents a loon like you. If Tiahrt doesn’t want to debate a nobody with no experience and who’s sole purpose is to limit the commander in chief from doing his job to protect us from terrorist, that his choice. The terrorist want McGinn to win and just like you he’s willing to sellout our freedom for your sorry democratic party.
Heh, yup, JR.
They pay it by the word . . .
First, it’s asdf@hotmail.com. The second is asdg@hotmail.com. What’s next? asdh? Spineless Toad!