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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99627</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backing up CF&#039;s rant, Editor and Publisher has a post about a soldier in Iraq who committed suicide rather than continue to torture prisoners.

Support the troops.  Put a magnet on your car.

I pray that the Lord God spares this country the punishment we deserve.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backing up CF&#8217;s rant, Editor and Publisher has a post about a soldier in Iraq who committed suicide rather than continue to torture prisoners.</p>
<p>Support the troops.  Put a magnet on your car.</p>
<p>I pray that the Lord God spares this country the punishment we deserve.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003345862" rel="nofollow">http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003345862</a></p>
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		<title>By: mrcontroversy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99626</link>
		<dc:creator>mrcontroversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the fact that I&#039;ve given money to Heath Shuler in North Carolina and Tammy Duckworth in Illinois makes me a sinister person, huh.Bwa hah hah.I&#039;ve even given money to two Republican Senate candidates...but it looks like at least one of them will be in vain.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the fact that I&#8217;ve given money to Heath Shuler in North Carolina and Tammy Duckworth in Illinois makes me a sinister person, huh.Bwa hah hah.I&#8217;ve even given money to two Republican Senate candidates&#8230;but it looks like at least one of them will be in vain.</p>
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		<title>By: mrcontroversy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99625</link>
		<dc:creator>mrcontroversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have to.I know Raj a little, but I know a lot of people who work in his campaign.I don&#039;t find the out of state money a bit suspicious.Raj&#039;s family has a lot of connections nationwide.His work for the party in other states has built up a network of potential donors.Same thing Susan Wagle did in the early 90s, but IOKIYAAR, right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have to.I know Raj a little, but I know a lot of people who work in his campaign.I don&#8217;t find the out of state money a bit suspicious.Raj&#8217;s family has a lot of connections nationwide.His work for the party in other states has built up a network of potential donors.Same thing Susan Wagle did in the early 90s, but IOKIYAAR, right?</p>
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		<title>By: KS Meadowlark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99624</link>
		<dc:creator>KS Meadowlark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Postal:  &quot;KS MeadowMuffin: I have chunks of guys like you in my stool.  ...  My dog craps bigger than you.&quot;

Your fond words remind me of what Sally Fields said:  &quot;You like me, you really like me!&quot;

BTW, Democratic Governor Sebelius did veto a campaign finance bill this year.  Thanks, Kathleen, for keeping campaign contribution info from the public.

At least the contribution reports are now free.  Less than a year ago all of these reports cost $0.50/page, which was rediculous.  It&#039;s a simple exercise of &quot;following the money,&quot; but it&#039;s still quite difficult to cross reference this info with the FEC contribution reports, the 527 and IRS 990 info from the IRS, ...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Postal:  &#8220;KS MeadowMuffin: I have chunks of guys like you in my stool.  &#8230;  My dog craps bigger than you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your fond words remind me of what Sally Fields said:  &#8220;You like me, you really like me!&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW, Democratic Governor Sebelius did veto a campaign finance bill this year.  Thanks, Kathleen, for keeping campaign contribution info from the public.</p>
<p>At least the contribution reports are now free.  Less than a year ago all of these reports cost $0.50/page, which was rediculous.  It&#8217;s a simple exercise of &#8220;following the money,&#8221; but it&#8217;s still quite difficult to cross reference this info with the FEC contribution reports, the 527 and IRS 990 info from the IRS, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KS Meadowlark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99623</link>
		<dc:creator>KS Meadowlark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Controversy:  I&#039;m not sure exactly what you&#039;re talking about.  I did original research, and then authored and posted the two items above at 1 AM this morning.  I always try to cite my sources.  Some are willing to give me info, but do not want their name published, which I respect.

My only intent is to get the information out to the public, which is being ignored by much of the press.  If someone wants to E-mail my postings to others, I have no problem with that.

Right now I&#039;m overwhelmed with all the new political contribution reports.  I spent much of last night downloading all of the new reports from the KS Gov&#039;t Ethics web site for additional research.

Don&#039;t you find the $88,500 that Raj Boyle raised in State Rep District 87 a bit curious?  Why are all those DC and out-of-state contributors trying to buy that seat for him in Wichita?  Has any Wichita TV station, like yours, researched that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Controversy:  I&#8217;m not sure exactly what you&#8217;re talking about.  I did original research, and then authored and posted the two items above at 1 AM this morning.  I always try to cite my sources.  Some are willing to give me info, but do not want their name published, which I respect.</p>
<p>My only intent is to get the information out to the public, which is being ignored by much of the press.  If someone wants to E-mail my postings to others, I have no problem with that.</p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m overwhelmed with all the new political contribution reports.  I spent much of last night downloading all of the new reports from the KS Gov&#8217;t Ethics web site for additional research.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you find the $88,500 that Raj Boyle raised in State Rep District 87 a bit curious?  Why are all those DC and out-of-state contributors trying to buy that seat for him in Wichita?  Has any Wichita TV station, like yours, researched that?</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99622</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outlander,

You goddamn Republicans kill me, ah tell you what...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outlander,</p>
<p>You goddamn Republicans kill me, ah tell you what&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99621</link>
		<dc:creator>outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CF: You aren&#039;t your usual sweet self. Happy hour?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CF: You aren&#8217;t your usual sweet self. Happy hour?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr KIA</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99620</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr KIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s no secret I am a Republican.I believe in the ideals.In my opinion if you aren&#039;t willing to debate (Republican or Democrat) you don&#039;t believe in your ideals.My belief is Tiahrt would win a debate based on ideas and solutions.But like I said in the other thread, it stinks that you won&#039;t have a debate.  In adds fuel to your fire as Democrats (most of you.).However out my way you aren&#039;t seeing the likes of Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer give the courtesy of a debate to Republican challengers either.Big money wins almost all the time it seems, especially in local races when the money can give one candidate such a huge margin of favor, they don&#039;t have to debate.The system in that way stinks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no secret I am a Republican.I believe in the ideals.In my opinion if you aren&#8217;t willing to debate (Republican or Democrat) you don&#8217;t believe in your ideals.My belief is Tiahrt would win a debate based on ideas and solutions.But like I said in the other thread, it stinks that you won&#8217;t have a debate.  In adds fuel to your fire as Democrats (most of you.).However out my way you aren&#8217;t seeing the likes of Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer give the courtesy of a debate to Republican challengers either.Big money wins almost all the time it seems, especially in local races when the money can give one candidate such a huge margin of favor, they don&#8217;t have to debate.The system in that way stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: political_mom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99619</link>
		<dc:creator>political_mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meadowlark creates pieces for the conservatives to use in their talking points.

I once had a conversation with a farmer, he said &quot;ya know, when the dems are in office, our farms do better, and when the republicans are in office, we&#039;re barely hanging on.&quot;  I asked why so many farmers vote republican then...and he said &quot;that&#039;s what I&#039;d like to know&quot;.

I guess they&#039;re willing to forgo the extra cash and lose their farms for gay marriage lol.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meadowlark creates pieces for the conservatives to use in their talking points.</p>
<p>I once had a conversation with a farmer, he said &#8220;ya know, when the dems are in office, our farms do better, and when the republicans are in office, we&#8217;re barely hanging on.&#8221;  I asked why so many farmers vote republican then&#8230;and he said &#8220;that&#8217;s what I&#8217;d like to know&#8221;.</p>
<p>I guess they&#8217;re willing to forgo the extra cash and lose their farms for gay marriage lol.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99618</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we need&quot;

try your real nic. gutless

When the Dems take the house, McGinn would have been placed on an important commitee. Tiahrt will be shoved into a deep dark corner.

Kansas IS a Republican state. 70 % is stretching it a bit. Certainly at least 50% of the people of this state are good folk not wise enough to vote in their own interest. Kansans are NOT known for wisdom. And there is likely a good 10 % of pricks like you. Sick fear mongers who use the boogey man to scare everyone into letting you put your boot on their throat.

Tiahrt is a chickenshit. You &quot;weneed&quot; are also a chickenshit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we need&#8221;</p>
<p>try your real nic. gutless</p>
<p>When the Dems take the house, McGinn would have been placed on an important commitee. Tiahrt will be shoved into a deep dark corner.</p>
<p>Kansas IS a Republican state. 70 % is stretching it a bit. Certainly at least 50% of the people of this state are good folk not wise enough to vote in their own interest. Kansans are NOT known for wisdom. And there is likely a good 10 % of pricks like you. Sick fear mongers who use the boogey man to scare everyone into letting you put your boot on their throat.</p>
<p>Tiahrt is a chickenshit. You &#8220;weneed&#8221; are also a chickenshit.</p>
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		<title>By: mrcontroversy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99617</link>
		<dc:creator>mrcontroversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Meadowloner, I got an email from the Barnett campaign just like your post.So... did you plagarize them, or did they plagarize you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Meadowloner, I got an email from the Barnett campaign just like your post.So&#8230; did you plagarize them, or did they plagarize you?</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99616</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an apropos story that has been effectively suppressed until now: one of the first female soldiers killed in Iraq apparently died at her own hand--she was unable to reconcile herself to the part she had played in interrogations involving torture.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003345862&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003345862&lt;/a&gt;

So, who hates the troops more than the Commander-In-Chief who sent them to do dirty work prohibited by the Geneva Convention?

All you Repukes can go to hell.  Every goddamn one of you.  You&#039;re the ones backstabbing American troops in the field by sending them to die in a futile war.

Every goddamn Republican deserves to go to hell for the hell they&#039;ve created in Iraq.  Every goddamn one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an apropos story that has been effectively suppressed until now: one of the first female soldiers killed in Iraq apparently died at her own hand&#8211;she was unable to reconcile herself to the part she had played in interrogations involving torture.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003345862" rel="nofollow">http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003345862</a></p>
<p>So, who hates the troops more than the Commander-In-Chief who sent them to do dirty work prohibited by the Geneva Convention?</p>
<p>All you Repukes can go to hell.  Every goddamn one of you.  You&#8217;re the ones backstabbing American troops in the field by sending them to die in a futile war.</p>
<p>Every goddamn Republican deserves to go to hell for the hell they&#8217;ve created in Iraq.  Every goddamn one.</p>
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		<title>By: we need winners not whiners</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99615</link>
		<dc:creator>we need winners not whiners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garth McGinn,Here it is plain and simple, we do not need you as a member of the House of Representatives from the state of Kansas. This is a republican state, where 70% of the voting population votes Republican and you would not represent us. You arent going to be able to change anything, youd just be a puppet for the Democratic party, you wouldnt be on any committees that Kansas would benefit from, you wouldnt be able to change the culture. We need to win the war on terror and right now the terrorist would love to see you win the election. That would lead to more friction in the government. We dont need any more Kerrys, we need someone who will support the troops, our President and thats not you. We have good leadership now, you would not be a good supporter for that leadership, which is what we have now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garth McGinn,Here it is plain and simple, we do not need you as a member of the House of Representatives from the state of Kansas. This is a republican state, where 70% of the voting population votes Republican and you would not represent us. You arent going to be able to change anything, youd just be a puppet for the Democratic party, you wouldnt be on any committees that Kansas would benefit from, you wouldnt be able to change the culture. We need to win the war on terror and right now the terrorist would love to see you win the election. That would lead to more friction in the government. We dont need any more Kerrys, we need someone who will support the troops, our President and thats not you. We have good leadership now, you would not be a good supporter for that leadership, which is what we have now.</p>
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		<title>By: Postal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99614</link>
		<dc:creator>Postal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KS MeadowMuffin:

I have chunks of guys like you in my stool.

All of your pro-fükup statistical nonsense diverts from the point that people with money support candidates that can fulfill their best interest.

Republicans have never been voting for campaign finance reform, even if some of them ran on that platform.

My dog craps bigger than you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KS MeadowMuffin:</p>
<p>I have chunks of guys like you in my stool.</p>
<p>All of your pro-fükup statistical nonsense diverts from the point that people with money support candidates that can fulfill their best interest.</p>
<p>Republicans have never been voting for campaign finance reform, even if some of them ran on that platform.</p>
<p>My dog craps bigger than you.</p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn Tolle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99613</link>
		<dc:creator>Vaughn Tolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Ben; I needed the laugh.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Ben; I needed the laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99612</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mars rover beginning to hate Mars

PASADENA, California (The Onion) -- NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory scientists overseeing the ongoing Mars Exploration Rover Mission said Monday that the Spirit&#039;s latest transmissions could indicate a growing resentment of the Red Planet.

&quot;Spirit has been displaying some anomalous behavior,&quot; said Project Manager John Callas, who noted the rover&#039;s unsuccessful attempts to flip itself over and otherwise damage its scientific instruments. &quot;And the thousand or so daily messages of &#039;STILL NO WATER&#039; really point to a crisis of purpose.&quot;

The &quot;robot geologist,&quot; as NASA describes Spirit, has been operating independently for over 990 Martian sols -- nearly the equivalent of three Earth years. However, scientists estimate that, in recent weeks, Spirit has been functioning on the level of a rover who has been on Mars for approximately 6,160 sols.

According to Callas, Spirit was operating normally until the onset of the Martian winter, whose shorter days and frigid temperatures typically mean a slower pace for exploratory rovers. &quot;We began getting the occasional transmission along the lines of &#039;ANOTHER SOIL SAMPLE OF THE EXACT SAME COMPOSITION AS THE LAST ONE,&#039;&quot; Callas said. &quot;Most of the time, she&#039;d power down and not transmit much of anything, which, at the time, didn&#039;t particularly concern us.&quot;

But as the winter lingered, Spirit began producing thousands of pages of sometimes rambling and dubious data, ranging from complaints that the Martian surface was made up almost entirely of the same basalt, to long-winded rants questioning the exorbitant cost and scientific relevance of the mission.

&quot;Granted, Spirit has been extraordinarily useful to our work,&quot; Callas said. &quot;Last week, however, we received three straight days of images of the same rock with the message &#039;HAPPY NOW?&#039;&quot;

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<p>PASADENA, California (The Onion) &#8212; NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory scientists overseeing the ongoing Mars Exploration Rover Mission said Monday that the Spirit&#8217;s latest transmissions could indicate a growing resentment of the Red Planet.</p>
<p>&#8220;Spirit has been displaying some anomalous behavior,&#8221; said Project Manager John Callas, who noted the rover&#8217;s unsuccessful attempts to flip itself over and otherwise damage its scientific instruments. &#8220;And the thousand or so daily messages of &#8216;STILL NO WATER&#8217; really point to a crisis of purpose.&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;robot geologist,&#8221; as NASA describes Spirit, has been operating independently for over 990 Martian sols &#8212; nearly the equivalent of three Earth years. However, scientists estimate that, in recent weeks, Spirit has been functioning on the level of a rover who has been on Mars for approximately 6,160 sols.</p>
<p>According to Callas, Spirit was operating normally until the onset of the Martian winter, whose shorter days and frigid temperatures typically mean a slower pace for exploratory rovers. &#8220;We began getting the occasional transmission along the lines of &#8216;ANOTHER SOIL SAMPLE OF THE EXACT SAME COMPOSITION AS THE LAST ONE,&#8217;&#8221; Callas said. &#8220;Most of the time, she&#8217;d power down and not transmit much of anything, which, at the time, didn&#8217;t particularly concern us.&#8221;</p>
<p>But as the winter lingered, Spirit began producing thousands of pages of sometimes rambling and dubious data, ranging from complaints that the Martian surface was made up almost entirely of the same basalt, to long-winded rants questioning the exorbitant cost and scientific relevance of the mission.</p>
<p>&#8220;Granted, Spirit has been extraordinarily useful to our work,&#8221; Callas said. &#8220;Last week, however, we received three straight days of images of the same rock with the message &#8216;HAPPY NOW?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/27/onion.mars/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/27/onion.mars/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn Tolle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99611</link>
		<dc:creator>Vaughn Tolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KFG, interesting link; I think there might really be something there (but, of course, not here in &quot;Kansas, Kansas, Kansas.&quot; [apologies to the late Frank Zappa]).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KFG, interesting link; I think there might really be something there (but, of course, not here in &#8220;Kansas, Kansas, Kansas.&#8221; [apologies to the late Frank Zappa]).</p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn Tolle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99610</link>
		<dc:creator>Vaughn Tolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, in Baghdad, the situation continues to deteriorate; a Sunni VP(?) makes critical remarks about the PM&#039;s &quot;ordering&quot; removal of checkpoints; still looking for the missing soldier, and other things:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/01/iraq.main/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/01/iraq.main/index.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, in Baghdad, the situation continues to deteriorate; a Sunni VP(?) makes critical remarks about the PM&#8217;s &#8220;ordering&#8221; removal of checkpoints; still looking for the missing soldier, and other things:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/01/iraq.main/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/01/iraq.main/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99609</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bonbon, susan, brenda, terry fox, fred phelps and the whole Hee Haw Gang better hope THIS headline doesnt come true.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/story/43687/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.alternet.org/story/43687/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bonbon, susan, brenda, terry fox, fred phelps and the whole Hee Haw Gang better hope THIS headline doesnt come true.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/43687/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/story/43687/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hee hee hee hee

and did I forget to say that a vote for bon bon huy is a vote to allow parents to force their 14 year old daughters to marry?

Remember, she and kay &quot;women should never have gotten the vote&quot; o&#039;connor were the ONLY two kansas legislators to support that position.

So.. if you think it is A-OK for 14 year old girls to be married off by their parents then vote for bon bon.

If you think it is ok to accept campaign donations from casinos and then BLOCK a local vote on gambling, vote for bon bon.

Oh yeah, and did I mention, susan &quot;I own bingo parlors but you cant vote on gambling&quot; wagle holds the same positions as bonbon on gambling.

She thinks it&#039;s ok to take money from casino operators while she BLOCKS the local vote on gambling.

The choices you have are clear. If you think taking money from casinos and doing their bidding is ok, vote for bonbon. And susan.

But if you like your officials to be clean and provide leadership, then vote for change.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hee hee hee hee</p>
<p>and did I forget to say that a vote for bon bon huy is a vote to allow parents to force their 14 year old daughters to marry?</p>
<p>Remember, she and kay &#8220;women should never have gotten the vote&#8221; o&#8217;connor were the ONLY two kansas legislators to support that position.</p>
<p>So.. if you think it is A-OK for 14 year old girls to be married off by their parents then vote for bon bon.</p>
<p>If you think it is ok to accept campaign donations from casinos and then BLOCK a local vote on gambling, vote for bon bon.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and did I mention, susan &#8220;I own bingo parlors but you cant vote on gambling&#8221; wagle holds the same positions as bonbon on gambling.</p>
<p>She thinks it&#8217;s ok to take money from casino operators while she BLOCKS the local vote on gambling.</p>
<p>The choices you have are clear. If you think taking money from casinos and doing their bidding is ok, vote for bonbon. And susan.</p>
<p>But if you like your officials to be clean and provide leadership, then vote for change.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote of the Day:

Liberalism is a form of progressive mental illness which may be defined as a form of moral coprophilia. The liberals will do anything – ANYTHING – even die horribly – rather than abandon the philosophy of human equality! Anonymous

Viva La Raza Blanco!!!
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<p>Liberalism is a form of progressive mental illness which may be defined as a form of moral coprophilia. The liberals will do anything – ANYTHING – even die horribly – rather than abandon the philosophy of human equality! Anonymous</p>
<p>Viva La Raza Blanco!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peoples,

If anyone, anyone can give me a good reason as to why the filthy traitors should NOT be killed, then I am all ears. Democarcy is dead, long live the day of the rope!

Judge blocks town&#039;s immigrant crackdown

Decision cites vague connection between illegal immigrants, crimeOct 31, 2006

ALLENTOWN, Pa. - A federal judge on Tuesday blocked the city of Hazleton from enforcing a pair of ordinances targeting illegal immigrants, just hours before the measures were to go into effect.

The measures, approved by the City Council last month, would have imposed fines on landlords who rent to illegal immigrants and denied business permits to companies that give them jobs. They also would have required tenants to register with City Hall and pay for a rental permit.

U.S. District Judge James Munley ruled that landlords, tenants and businesses that cater to Hispanics faced &quot;irreparable harm&quot; from the laws and issued a temporary restraining order blocking their enforcement.

&quot;We find it in the public interest to protect residents&#039; access to homes, education, jobs and businesses,&quot; he wrote in a 13-page opinion.

Hispanic groups and the ACLU sued Hazleton on Monday, contending the laws violate the Constitution because they trample on the federal government&#039;s exclusive power to regulate immigration.

Mayor Lou Barletta, who spearheaded the law, has argued that illegal immigrants have brought an increase in drugs, crime and gangs to the city. The city&#039;s lawyers on Tuesday cited a 10 percent increase in crime between 2004 and 2005 as a reason why the ordinances should be enforced.

Munley, however, wrote that the city &quot;offers only vague generalizations about the crime allegedly caused by illegal immigrants, but has nothing concrete to back up these claims.&quot;

Hazleton&#039;s crackdown, which was announced in June, has spurred other towns to pass similar laws. Municipal officials view the Hazleton lawsuit and a similar one in Riverside, N.J., as test cases.

Witold J. Walczak, legal director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania, hailed Tuesday&#039;s decision as an important victory.

&quot;I think what&#039;s important is the judge recognized that this ordinance has the potential to cause real harm by costing people their jobs, their houses and requiring children to leave schools,&quot; he said.

The judge&#039;s restraining order expires Nov. 14. He indicated that he will schedule a hearing on the ACLU&#039;s motion for a temporary injunction.

Barletta has said he is convinced the courts will ultimately uphold the law.

The judge says there is only a &quot;vague connection between illegal immigrants, crime&quot;? If they are in this country illegally they have committed a crime.

But once again a Clinton-appointed judge has stricken down the legislated will of the citizens. And of course with the ever-present help of the 501c3 &quot;charity&quot; the America-hating ACLU.

&quot;We find it in the public interest to protect residents&#039; access to homes, education, jobs and businesses,&quot; he wrote in a 13-page opinion.

The Hazelton ordinances were passed at the behest of the legal citizenry to do just this very thing. This judge&#039;s ruling is meant to have the opposite effect.

This judge seeks to deny Hazelton&#039;s legal residents the most basic rights in any social compact -- the right to protect their lives and property.

Remember who confirms these ACLU slavey judges on November 7th.

(Thanks to Tom Stoner for the heads up.)&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/aclu-judge-block-hazeltons-illegal-alien-ordinances&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/aclu-judge-block-hazeltons-illegal-alien-ordinances&lt;/a&gt;

Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peoples,</p>
<p>If anyone, anyone can give me a good reason as to why the filthy traitors should NOT be killed, then I am all ears. Democarcy is dead, long live the day of the rope!</p>
<p>Judge blocks town&#8217;s immigrant crackdown</p>
<p>Decision cites vague connection between illegal immigrants, crimeOct 31, 2006</p>
<p>ALLENTOWN, Pa. &#8211; A federal judge on Tuesday blocked the city of Hazleton from enforcing a pair of ordinances targeting illegal immigrants, just hours before the measures were to go into effect.</p>
<p>The measures, approved by the City Council last month, would have imposed fines on landlords who rent to illegal immigrants and denied business permits to companies that give them jobs. They also would have required tenants to register with City Hall and pay for a rental permit.</p>
<p>U.S. District Judge James Munley ruled that landlords, tenants and businesses that cater to Hispanics faced &#8220;irreparable harm&#8221; from the laws and issued a temporary restraining order blocking their enforcement.</p>
<p>&#8220;We find it in the public interest to protect residents&#8217; access to homes, education, jobs and businesses,&#8221; he wrote in a 13-page opinion.</p>
<p>Hispanic groups and the ACLU sued Hazleton on Monday, contending the laws violate the Constitution because they trample on the federal government&#8217;s exclusive power to regulate immigration.</p>
<p>Mayor Lou Barletta, who spearheaded the law, has argued that illegal immigrants have brought an increase in drugs, crime and gangs to the city. The city&#8217;s lawyers on Tuesday cited a 10 percent increase in crime between 2004 and 2005 as a reason why the ordinances should be enforced.</p>
<p>Munley, however, wrote that the city &#8220;offers only vague generalizations about the crime allegedly caused by illegal immigrants, but has nothing concrete to back up these claims.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hazleton&#8217;s crackdown, which was announced in June, has spurred other towns to pass similar laws. Municipal officials view the Hazleton lawsuit and a similar one in Riverside, N.J., as test cases.</p>
<p>Witold J. Walczak, legal director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania, hailed Tuesday&#8217;s decision as an important victory.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think what&#8217;s important is the judge recognized that this ordinance has the potential to cause real harm by costing people their jobs, their houses and requiring children to leave schools,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>The judge&#8217;s restraining order expires Nov. 14. He indicated that he will schedule a hearing on the ACLU&#8217;s motion for a temporary injunction.</p>
<p>Barletta has said he is convinced the courts will ultimately uphold the law.</p>
<p>The judge says there is only a &#8220;vague connection between illegal immigrants, crime&#8221;? If they are in this country illegally they have committed a crime.</p>
<p>But once again a Clinton-appointed judge has stricken down the legislated will of the citizens. And of course with the ever-present help of the 501c3 &#8220;charity&#8221; the America-hating ACLU.</p>
<p>&#8220;We find it in the public interest to protect residents&#8217; access to homes, education, jobs and businesses,&#8221; he wrote in a 13-page opinion.</p>
<p>The Hazelton ordinances were passed at the behest of the legal citizenry to do just this very thing. This judge&#8217;s ruling is meant to have the opposite effect.</p>
<p>This judge seeks to deny Hazelton&#8217;s legal residents the most basic rights in any social compact &#8212; the right to protect their lives and property.</p>
<p>Remember who confirms these ACLU slavey judges on November 7th.</p>
<p>(Thanks to Tom Stoner for the heads up.)<a href="http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/aclu-judge-block-hazeltons-illegal-alien-ordinances" rel="nofollow">http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/aclu-judge-block-hazeltons-illegal-alien-ordinances</a></p>
<p>Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99605</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably true Dennis

I say if Tiahrt wasn&#039;t running a stealth campaign he would lose to new blood. That is why he is hiding out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably true Dennis</p>
<p>I say if Tiahrt wasn&#8217;t running a stealth campaign he would lose to new blood. That is why he is hiding out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try, JR.

TT is part of the beltway establishment he he ain&#039;t comin&#039; back here unless he has to. And, unfortunately, he doesn&#039;t have to this election. He has the RW faithful right in his pocket.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try, JR.</p>
<p>TT is part of the beltway establishment he he ain&#8217;t comin&#8217; back here unless he has to. And, unfortunately, he doesn&#8217;t have to this election. He has the RW faithful right in his pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/11/open_thread-9/#comment-99603</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey bushbots?

YOUR p(resident) is coming to see.....people in Kanas City. He is doing so because fellow whackjob Jim Ryun is in REAL TROUBLE.

Why do I mention this?

Well....

If YOU demand that Todd Tiahrt quit running a stealth campaign and actually get back here and debate his democrat challenger Garth McGinn, well then ol&#039; Toady Tiahrt is gonna take a NOSEDIVE in the polls. THEN YOUR &quot;fearless leader&quot; bush will be forced to come here to support Tiahrt! You&#039;ll get to SEE HIM and I and THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE will be kept at least a mile away from showing the sonofabitch what WE think of him!

So get on it bushies! DEMAND that Todd Tiahrt come home and campaign like a man!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey bushbots?</p>
<p>YOUR p(resident) is coming to see&#8230;..people in Kanas City. He is doing so because fellow whackjob Jim Ryun is in REAL TROUBLE.</p>
<p>Why do I mention this?</p>
<p>Well&#8230;.</p>
<p>If YOU demand that Todd Tiahrt quit running a stealth campaign and actually get back here and debate his democrat challenger Garth McGinn, well then ol&#8217; Toady Tiahrt is gonna take a NOSEDIVE in the polls. THEN YOUR &#8220;fearless leader&#8221; bush will be forced to come here to support Tiahrt! You&#8217;ll get to SEE HIM and I and THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE will be kept at least a mile away from showing the sonofabitch what WE think of him!</p>
<p>So get on it bushies! DEMAND that Todd Tiahrt come home and campaign like a man!</p>
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