The biggest local race this election, both in money spent and political party attention, was for Kansas House District 87. I’m glad that Democrat Raj Goyle prevailed against incumbent Republican Bonnie Huy, who ran a hard-fought campaign. Goyle is just the type of smart, young professional we need more of in Topeka.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee
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GO RAJ!!!!!!
Yes, let’s hear it for the lower caste dravidian currymuncher and aclu activist who got 90% of his cash from out of state!! Go Dems Go!!
The Founding Fathers Wept!Ian Santiago Laughs!!Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
I would love to think this was a good thing, but I worry about a candidate with a Yale/Harvard education that didn’t know he shouldn’t be shaking hands and introducing himself to voters INSIDE a polling place. This happened at Maranantha while I was voting and also at another polling place as reported by the Eagle. What else has he done that wasn’t kosher? I still wonder why this seat was worth the over $100,000 it cost him.
I’m with one person above,”Go Raj!”
As for Mr. racist, I say this:
“God Bless the Whole World. No Eceptions”
“Exceptions” – sorry, it has been a long night of celebrations.
Welcome to Weimar Amerika, folks, where evry obscenity is cause for celebration. :)
Viva La Hindu Tea Sellers!!Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
Someone hand Paul Rosell a tissue.
Picked up 30 seats in the House, does Bush suck or what? Maybe it was just people fed up with all the corruption. Does this mean both Todd and Roberts lose their influence? Can’t imagine what will happen to Bush if Roberts can’t run defense for him!
I think you should hand paulie the shillie and sollie the sorry some toilet tissue, not kleenex.
Heheh. Being in the shitter and all…..
And where are these fearless warriors today?
kansas germ wonders about Raj while the rest of the district wonders about bonbon.
Geez germ, a YELLOW DOG coulda beat bonbon if she ran on her sorry record.
Buhhhhhhhh byyyyyyyyyyye bonbon
Maybe you can recruit some new businesses for the state. You know, amongst your fellow gay haters?
Paybacks are SUCH a bitch.
HI PAUL!!!!!!
How ya doing this morning?
Boy, it’s eerily quiet on the right side of the aisle. Heckler ducked in, then ducked out on the Election thread. Hank Price? Nathan? Outlander? JM? SM? GMC70?
(crickets)
They must be crying in their beer along with little lord pissypants.
Poor little Paulie won’t come out of his room. You people are just so mean to him, you made him cry and wet his pants.
So, what’s the over/under on whether Bush completes his term? After all, he’s never seen a project through to completion in his entire life.
Given that at a minimum GW’s presidency will have some congressional oversight, his “unitary executive” presidency for all practical purposes is OVER.
Should have happened at least two years sooner.
My thoughts exactly CF. Look for him to resign or just be AWOL, kinda like he did in the guard while guys like XXX and JM Walker were actually fighting our war.
He always bails when the going gets tough.
Who wants to bet he wets his little pissypants and stomps his feet at the sign of the first investigation? Who wants to bet he and dead eye dick both refuse the supoenas that are sure to come their way?
Who wants to bet he wont finish out his full second term? I mean, the rovester isnt perfect anymore?
Who will protect the boy king?
heheheheheheheheheh
I say send him back to crawford for a little “bush” cutting…..
Rallying cry from GOP:
REMEMBER TERRY SCHIAVO!
PROTECT THE TAX CUTS!
STAY THE COURSE!
Indeed. But I think the coming showdown over the ‘Unitary Executive’ is something that, frankly, none of us are going to want to see.
It’s never, ever, ever pretty to watch somebody have to confront their own denial. So much the worse when the arena in which the plays out is the U.S. Constitution.
Once Bush/Cheney/Rove is safely out of office, some urgent repairs are going to be necessary to shore up the separation of powers and to restore the Constitution to the balance intended by the Framers. I know GMC70 disagrees with me on this point, and I think, frankly, that he’s just wrong. How wrong, precisely, will depend on the lengths to which Bush will go during the next two years. Today’s press conference is some ‘must-see TV’ for every American. Will Bush blink?
Cheney’s declaration that the VP does not have to respond to Congressional subpeonas isn’t a terribly encouraging place to begin.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Two words.
Frog march.
“Boy, it’s eerily quiet on the right side of the aisle. Heckler ducked in, then ducked out on the Election thread. Hank Price? Nathan? Outlander? JM? SM? GMC70?”(crickets)Posted by: CF | November 08, 2006 at 07:53 AM
Heh, I’m still here. I’m just observing the Dem Celebration Party before I step back in.
You Dems won and have the time now to celebrate, but soon it will be time to go to work and deliver on the moderate promises made.
Raj was shaking hands at the polling place!
Effing brilliant!
See, this is what happens when you Pukes try to suppress votes by cutting the polling places down by 2/3rds.
Makes it easier to campaign there, hehehe.
What did Goyle prove?1.)Goyle lied in a brochure that said Bonnie voted for a “pig barn” instead of voting for kids.The truth?Bonnie Huy spoke AGAINST the Fire Marshal’s demand that a new state fair “pig barn” be built. The Fire Marshal declared the old barn unsafe. Bonnie Huy was home, sick, on the day the actual vote was cast, but Goyle lied and said Bonnie voted for the “Pig Barn” which was ordered by the Fire Marshal.(How much “education” takes place at the State Fair? How many school expenditures are LESS important than this pig barn, which is, in fact an educational tool? Again, Bonnie spoke against this expense.)2.) Goyle gave Huy a hard time over the immigration issue, pointing to another obscure vote that Bonnie missed. (Bonnie’s attendence is actually very good, but Goyle again brings up a day that Bonnie was not in Topeka.)Goyle has written a paper against deportation of illegals, and Goyle’s ACLU has opposed nearly every attempt to hault the flow of illegal immmigration.3.) Goyle the lawyer broke the law, campaigning inside precinct voting locations. No, I didnt see this myself, but I trust those who tell me that Goyle did violate the law, more than once.4.) Bonnie Huy voted in favor of restrictions on marriage, Bonnie simply insisted that marriage restrictions contain parental and judicial waivers. Why should it be easier for minors to get an abortion than it is for minors to get married? Marriage might provide health insurance and support to the child. Support that would otherwise be on the backs of taxpayers. Every Democrat and every Republican in Kansas was OK with our permissive Kansas marriage law until this vote. Bonnie didn’t “allow” young minors to get married, Bonnie Huy voted for a law that RESTRICTED juvenile marriage.Goyle’s ACLU backs NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association, frequently, in court. NAMBLA wants to rid the country of statutory rape laws. Why is it ok, in the eyes of NAMBLA and Goyle’s ACLU, to have sex with a minor, but it is not OK for minors to marry?—-Goyle proves that it is possible to buy an election.Goyle also makes a joke of campaign finance reform or campaign finance reporting. Most of Goyle’s massive campaign war chest came from out of state.According to one source, Goyle was getting help directly from Podesta and other Dem power brokers. Perfectly legal, of course, but nobody expects this kind of massive expense in a local state-rep race. This was not about the 87th District. It was about Goyle. Whatever the national Dems have planned for Goyle, this will be his easiest race. The element of surprise is gone.—–
Congratulations, you have proven that money does buy votes, that massive, record setting expenditures, paying for roughly 17 mailers, and massive TV and radio spots, filled with lies and distortions, can win!——This was NOT an ideoligal race, since Goyle hid his ideology.
Sebelius ran like a Republican, falsely credit for low taxes, the Bush economy and praising the National Guard, and Sebelius couldnt find a qualified Democrat running mate,.so she picked a Republican running mate.Morrison used to be a Republican.Goyle ran like an illegal immigrant basher, but his organization, the ACLU, fights against immigration reform, and Goyle wrote a research paper opposed to deportation of illegal immigrants.—–You want me to buy everyone on this blog a drink, a victory cigar and want me to wear a Democrat t-shirt of your choice all night, 2 years from now?Run an ACLU liberal who proudly and honestly states his views, in his brochures and you can sleep well knowing the world agrees with YOU!As it is, you have proven yourselves better at deception and lying.How sweet is that “victory”??Until then, you NOW have the chance to rack up a radical voting record that we can use against YOU!—-PSYour national Democrat Party has become more conservative.The newcommers are more conservative than the Democrat House leadership, in Washington.
How is that “Senator Lamont” doing?
I believe I made one solid prediction here, never hedging:
I told you Lieberman would win!
Yes, I am a conservative, but the National and State Democrat parties are more conservative than the liberals on this Blog.
Liberalism only wins when liberalism openly presents itself and wins!
Exactly JM.And you think our rantings about the repugs admin is tough,wait till the NEW congress screws up.The difference between us and the repugs is that we do not rubber stamp anything.We demand govt that is accountable to THE PEOPLE!!
Rant on paulie. heheheheh
Bonbon is gone gone.
pilllllll is gonnnnnnne too.
Might we be so lucky as to say buh-bye to you too?
Oh boy.paul (conversion of property) rosell weighs in.Priceless.
Girl, we got no reason to even read the stew-pud stuff this pud posts.The people have spoken.The fat lady sang.
On with the gloating KFG.
JM,
Indeed. I think it’s already time to get to work. But thanks for letting us have our “hooo-yeah!”
To be frank, I think one of the benefits of the restoration of divided government is that the atmosphere around here might be less toxic and impossible. I’ll admit to being quite toxic, at times, out of sense of helplessness. That is now over. Different things are now possible, and ought to be debated on their merits rather than on the basis of foregone ideological/tribal conclusions.
Republican hegemony is done; let a thousand flowers bloom! and all that.
Paul F. Rosell,
To the dustbin of history with you.
heheheheh tracy.
I cant believe paulie didnt say
BILL CLINTON!!
BILL CLINTON!!
hehehehehh
Paul F. Rosell,
Your Section 8 discharge is peeking out.
Bush shoulda’ found a horny intern instead of an unwarranted war.
Conservatives–
The “reality” part of reality may finally be penetrating your obtusity.
This election was nothing short of REPUDIATION of Bush and everything he stands for.
Bush campaigned for rapture-right darling Jim Ryun last Sunday. Ryun is gone.
Bush stumped for hard-right Chris Chocola in Catholic South Bend, Indiana (Notre Dame College), and Chocola is history.
Wing-nut Hostettler of Indiana? Crashed and burned.
Ohio? Brown cruises past incumbent DeWine.
Bush campaign chair Blackwell for Ohio Gov? Smacked down.
Montana–home of cowboys and the NRA types? A Dem leads a Puke going into the recount.
Virginia–VIRGINIA! the cradle of the Confederacy, ditto.
Senate Race in Mizzu–Repub out, Dem IN
Anti-abortion activist Phill Kline was CRYING like a little girl last night on television — the realization that he and his nephew (with the DUI) have to get real jobs had set in apparently.
South Dakota’s referendum to ban abortions, defeated.
The will of the majority has spoken. And it said, “na, na, na, NA . . . na, na, na, NA . . . hey, hey . . . goodbye”
Worst. President. Ever.
Spin that.
Hey, Todd–
Remember when you said “nobody named ‘Raj Goyle’ could ever win in Wichita?”
Looks like Wichitans are a little smarter and more sophisticated than you thought, dude.
CF
The Democrats need to remember something. To a large degree folks voted AGAINST Bush and/or Republicans/status quoe, more than they voted FOR Democrats. If the radical leftwing of the Democratic party rears it’s head and drives the Dems agenda you’ll be looking at losing everything you just gained. Beware.
And Congrats.
TracyI never was even accused of any “property conversion” during my brief 4 years in the Court House as Chief Deputy Clerk.Also, Tracy, I went to a previous blog thread and found some “troll” or false “posts” which bore my name.
Again, this Blog could be a place where people who disagree with each other might be able to find some small common ground. We might be able to find a few things that we agree upon.
When we cant be sure who will misrepresent us, or “troll” us, when we cant be sure who posted what, then what good is this dialogue?I have been out of town frequently the last several weeks. I did not catch this false, “troll” post until today. This is NOT me, but a coward on this Blog who wants to make me look bad, this post appeared under the Nov 2, I believe, thread on aging:—–”This and other reasons is why national health care is a very bad idea. The more people that live to old age the greater burden on the system.
What we need is to eliminate social security and medicare. Let the market decide who lives and who dies.If you can work you should no matter how old you are. It is better you die being productive than rocking in a chair. If you are too sick to work then you are a burden on society. If you do not have family to care for you then you have no business sticking around. It sounds cold but we are a survival of the fittest society and it works.
Posted by: Paul F Rosell | November 03, 2006 at 02:00 AM—–I did NOT write the above post, the stuff between the —- lines is NOT mine, not my belief, not my thoughts.This is how your brave Democrat party wins?
Paul–
Thanks for checking in this morning.
“Raj won because he cheated . . . wahhh . . .”
Hey, why don’t you run and tell the teacher?
Now I get to say something I’ve waited six years for–
GET OVER IT.
*****
BTW, Paul, how do explain the bizzare fact that Bonny Huy’s property tax did really go up for six years in a red-hot housing market?
Apparently, her college hill property didn’t either . . .
did NOT . . .
Heckler,
Thank you.
My hope is that, under Democratic leadership, America can be made to work for all Americans, and to reclaim its moral leadership in the world. Reasonable people can disagree as to how this can best be accomplished, while still recognizing one another as reasonable people. What we’ve seen for the last six years, at least, has been an attempt to deny this, and to drive people apart by poisoning the atmosphere and sowing discord. I think this has seen its day.
Which is not to say that it’s Morning in America, any more than one would want to Let A Thousand Flowers Bloom–which I actually did say upthread.
Paul F. Rosell,
Though I disagree with the content of your posts, I also will defend your right not to be trolled.
Yeah, we all get trolled here, Paulie. The blog is set up so you can’t stop it.
You can use “typekey” so that readers can click on your nic to see if it is you.
Uh . . . get over it.
Heckler–
In the spirit of a new bi-partisanship, let me be the first to say “bullsh*t.”
Howard Dean won this.
His “50 state” strategy took the fight to the belly of the beast and gave voters some real alternatives for once.
Voters had a chance to vote on the abortion issue in SD, and they voted to keep abortion legal.
Granted, we’re not going to ram through a bunch of ideological nonsense like the rapture-right did, but don’t expect Democrats and the people who voted for them to be happy with Republican-lite.
WAH!!!!!!!!
Poor Paul; he is really not a very gracious loser. But he sure is a lot of fun!
Heckler,
However, if this is how the White House wants to play the next couple of years, I’m prepared to help break them up into little fucking pieces, burn their house down, and salt the earth. Here’s Grover Norquist:
“White House allies suggest there is little reason to think Bush and the Democrats will work together. Bush has tied himself closely to conservative movement leaders who bitterly disagree with Democrats for their opposition to tax cuts and to privatizing Social Security — two of the administration’s top goals.”When we want to go up and they want to go down, we want to go right and they want to go left, there’s no compromise,” said anti-tax activist Grover Norquist, a close advisor to the White House.
Norquist said the Republicans’ primary goal for the next two years should be making the case for GOP control — not bipartisanship.
“Nancy Pelosi will do for the Republicans what [Bill] Clinton did for the Republicans — become the lightning rod to explain that their congressman who they thought was a reasonable guy was really a left-wing wacko,” he said.”
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If this is the game, beware. Be very fuckin’-ware. Because the Democratic Party now has the investigatorial tools to show the world how dishonest, corrupt, and, to use my favoritest word, fascistic this Administration and its allies are. And if they try to play their little games with the media, John Dingell, John Conyers, Henry Waxman, Jane Harman, and the rest of the House truth squad will haul their asses into hearings and put the screws to them.
And if they’re going to claim the House subpeona power doesn’t apply to members of the Administration, get ready for the Constitutional showdown they supposedly want.
Everyone who voted Republican has a choice to make in how far to go in supporting the course of action Norquist is suggesting. Because if the White House goes on doing as it has done, the Democratic House will have NO CHOICE but to push back. Party activists like myself will see to that.
If Republican voters truly want to see bipartisanship, they need to put the screws to their party leadership. It only works if both sides play. And if Bush goes on a Unitary Executive rampage, I fail to see how the voters in ‘08 will hold that against Democrats.
Ian Santiago,
I know it’s only 9:39 AM, but you may now take your drink.
CapnAmerica
I believe you are almost entirely wrong. Most of the gains Democrats made were by candidates running on conservative agendas. You didnt have any leftwingers winning in those red states.
Don’t delude yourself. Dean didnt do anything special. You folks didnt win any more than any typical “sixth year” election in recent memory. And the KosKids on the left WILL be pushing for impeachment! Will Pelosi (and Reid perhaps?) be smart or will they be driven by the Soros wing? If they’re not smart all those conservative Dems who just won will likely be gone next election cycle.
We didn’t win any more than any typical “sixth year” election.
Oh, really?
I’ll have to check into that.
I don’t know for sure yet, but one thing I do know is that YOU don’t know.
Capn
I’ll be waiting. I think you’ll find that 30 seats in the House is typical.
Heckler,
Not quite. 25.47 seats is the average for midterm elections over the last sixty years.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610270008
This was a good year. But it’s only the fact that Howard Dean took the race to all 50 states that made the gains Democrats have seen possible.
Late night last night – stayed up watching returns trickle in. I see nothing has changed – still two basically tied. Any guesses when they will resolve?
By the way, how will Todd the Partisan fare in the minority?
OKAY paulfrosell.You got trolled just like me.Even if that stuff was never true,your ideology STILL SUCKS.
As I recall the trolling of Paul was called out when it happened.
Paul – FYI – from the same thread:
I have a feeling Paul was trolled at 2:00 AM. I don’t want to believe that was really him.Posted by: hmmm … | November 03, 2006 at 09:16 AM
The first post was definitely Paul. That’s his style of writing. The author of the second post is questionable.Posted by: RD | November 03, 2006 at 11:04 AM
So, we defended you at the time. More than I can say for anything you have ever done for your enemies.
Howard Dean. Yeah, the right loves to rail against him, how he is (oops, was) going to ruin the Democrats, nobody would listen to him, he was wasting time and money on his 50 states strategy. The reason the screamed is they knew in the cold, black hearts that he was on to something. Looks like Dean was right.
Still grinning. Much to the chagrin of the righties in my office building.
The reason THEY screamed is they knew in THEIR cold, etc…
And to think I type for a living
Dean took a lot of crap off of Democrats for sticking to his 50 state policy. I was sure wondering if it was the right course, but my hat is off to the good doctor today.
hmmmmm
Jan Kennedy, former Sedgwick County Treasurer, and a DEMOCRAT, was a close friend of mine at the time of her death, but that was not always the case.
I tried to help Jerry McCoy, former Republican Sedgwick County Treasurer, defeat Kennedy, but McCoy had “sexual harassment” problems and lost to Kennedy. (Primarily because the Wichita Eagle would not shut up about McCoys sexual harassment settlement.) Kennedy, of course, also benefited from name recognition, and Republican cross-over votes. Jan’s husband, at the time, was Judge David Kennedy, a Republican. Jan Kennedy also attended St. James Episcopal, a College Hill church attended by some very strong Republican contributors and leaders. (One of them being the late Tom Tatlock, an oil man, JR, but an oil man that gave to many charities, and who supported Jan Kennedy. Tom Tatlock told me that Jan was a good person and to give her a chance. Tom Tatlock died recently, he was a great man.)
So, on Tatlocks advice, I did give Jan Kennedy a chance.—-To make a long story short, when Democrat Jan Kennedy was falsely accused of misdeeds in the County Courthouse, I spoke firmly in her defense.For the record, Jan Kennedy told the County Manager, the County Counselor, and all of the Sedgwick County Commissioners, in open session, and at other times, that she intended to hire a consultant. This consultant WROTE the Kansas License Tag and Registration program, a state program.Kennedy was never warned by anyone in power that she was doing anything wrong. The County Counselor told her she had the authority. At least one County Commissioner got mad at Kennedy for “wasting our time on an internal matter.”Kennedy was before her time. Kennedy wanted to explore ways to modernize tag renewal and maybe even put tag registration “on line” (as it is now at the State level) or make it available at the Dillons grocery stores.Regardless of the merits of Kennedys ideas, she should be commended for her visionary thinking, and for trying to follow the law.This was NOT an “sweet heart deal” as her rivals claimed.Only ONE MAN could lay claim to a full understanding of the Kansas tag system and computer program.Kennedy hired that man, only AFTER discussing the issue with everyone in County government.(Including ME, I was the County Clerk’s appointment to the Sedgwick County tax system committee, which met regularly to discuss modernization of the tax system.)—–Again, to shorten the story, I wrote at least 3 letters to the Eagle and spoke to several county officials about Kennedy and about her attempts to follow the legal process in this matter. The Eagle never printed my defenses of Kennedy. (I believe this is due to the bias of the Eagle to eliminate the “role offices” in the Court House. This agenda, a coup attempt by the County Manager, is opposed by most Democrat leaders).I believe it was former Dem Chair Jim Lawing who wrote a letter to Jan Kennedy asking her to resign, for this bogus charge and other trumped up charges. (Like “beer cans” in the trash. Jan NEVER drank beer. She always had a bourbon ready for me when I dropped by her house, however.)Jan called me on the phone to read the letter to me, the letter asking her to resign. She was very hurt.Anyway, Jan was a fine woman and she did not deserve the trash that was thrown her way.I stood up for Jan Kennedy better than any Democrat ever did, in her time of need.She deserved it, she did nothing wrong.I miss her.——There, the above was probably something you did not know.I am quite capable of admiring Democrats and helping Democrats who deserve my help.——
Thank you to those of you who have kept this debate respectable and who have tried to “out” the trolls on this blog.Please feel free to check the verification of anything posted by “Paul F. Rosell”write me at : paulrosell@sbcglobal.net—-I do not review this Blog daily, I am too busy.The Trolls will continue to poison this debate if we let them.—-By the way, my girlfriend is an activist Democrat. She thinks I should quit posting here, since false trolls might hurt my business and my reputation.You honest Democrats, who fight fair, give me hope that this Blog might be a worth the time and effort.The jury is out.
hmmmmm
Jan Kennedy, former Sedgwick County Treasurer, and a DEMOCRAT, was a close friend of mine at the time of her death, but that was not always the case.
I tried to help Jerry McCoy, former Republican Sedgwick County Treasurer, defeat Kennedy, but McCoy had “sexual harassment” problems and lost to Kennedy. (Primarily because the Wichita Eagle would not shut up about McCoys sexual harassment settlement.) Kennedy, of course, also benefited from name recognition, and Republican cross-over votes. Jan’s husband, at the time, was Judge David Kennedy, a Republican. Jan Kennedy also attended St. James Episcopal, a College Hill church attended by some very strong Republican contributors and leaders. (One of them being the late Tom Tatlock, an oil man, JR, but an oil man that gave to many charities, and who supported Jan Kennedy. Tom Tatlock told me that Jan was a good person and to give her a chance. Tom Tatlock died recently, he was a great man.)
So, on Tatlocks advice, I did give Jan Kennedy a chance.—-To make a long story short, when Democrat Jan Kennedy was falsely accused of misdeeds in the County Courthouse, I spoke firmly in her defense.For the record, Jan Kennedy told the County Manager, the County Counselor, and all of the Sedgwick County Commissioners, in open session, and at other times, that she intended to hire a consultant. This consultant WROTE the Kansas License Tag and Registration program, a state program.Kennedy was never warned by anyone in power that she was doing anything wrong. The County Counselor told her she had the authority. At least one County Commissioner got mad at Kennedy for “wasting our time on an internal matter.”Kennedy was before her time. Kennedy wanted to explore ways to modernize tag renewal and maybe even put tag registration “on line” (as it is now at the State level) or make it available at the Dillons grocery stores.Regardless of the merits of Kennedys ideas, she should be commended for her visionary thinking, and for trying to follow the law.This was NOT an “sweet heart deal” as her rivals claimed.Only ONE MAN could lay claim to a full understanding of the Kansas tag system and computer program.Kennedy hired that man, only AFTER discussing the issue with everyone in County government.(Including ME, I was the County Clerk’s appointment to the Sedgwick County tax system committee, which met regularly to discuss modernization of the tax system.)—–Again, to shorten the story, I wrote at least 3 letters to the Eagle and spoke to several county officials about Kennedy and about her attempts to follow the legal process in this matter. The Eagle never printed my defenses of Kennedy. (I believe this is due to the bias of the Eagle to eliminate the “role offices” in the Court House. This agenda, a coup attempt by the County Manager, is opposed by most Democrat leaders).I believe it was former Dem Chair Jim Lawing who wrote a letter to Jan Kennedy asking her to resign, for this bogus charge and other trumped up charges. (Like “beer cans” in the trash. Jan NEVER drank beer. She always had a bourbon ready for me when I dropped by her house, however.)Jan called me on the phone to read the letter to me, the letter asking her to resign. She was very hurt.Anyway, Jan was a fine woman and she did not deserve the trash that was thrown her way.I stood up for Jan Kennedy better than any Democrat ever did, in her time of need.She deserved it, she did nothing wrong.I miss her.——There, the above was probably something you did not know.I am quite capable of admiring Democrats and helping Democrats who deserve my help.——
Thank you to those of you who have kept this debate respectable and who have tried to “out” the trolls on this blog.Please feel free to check the verification of anything posted by “Paul F. Rosell”write me at : paulrosell@sbcglobal.net—-I do not review this Blog daily, I am too busy.The Trolls will continue to poison this debate if we let them.—-By the way, my girlfriend is an activist Democrat. She thinks I should quit posting here, since false trolls might hurt my business and my reputation.You honest Democrats, who fight fair, give me hope that this Blog might be a worth the time and effort.The jury is out.
Paul – posters on the ‘left’ have been trolled many times more than posters on the ‘right’ have been.
Heckler, when was the last time that BOTH the House and Senate flipped, during a time of “war” no less?
P. Rosell,
Gee, that’s mighty nice of ya helping Jan Kennedy and all . . . now, about the Huy’s mysteriously flat property tax?
Cat got his tongue on that one.
CapnThere is NO way that anyone can get any “special deal” on their property valuations and get away with it.
The Appraiser is appointed by the County Commissioners and must be approved by Topeka.The mill levy is set by the various taxing authorities.The valuation is set by the Appraiser.Why would a moderate to liberal appraiser’s office do anything to help a conservative legislator?Sorry, I wouldnt buy it if you told me a Democrat was getting a “deal.”Too many people involved to pull off a “conspiracy” of that size.
Capn
That’s OK, you don’t have to admit that I was right, I know.
Under the current climate of overblown scandals and the war not going well coupled with the “six year itch” you should have taken 50-60 house seats and ten senate seats. Many of the Dems that won ran as conservatives and moderates.Pelosi and Reid went into hiding for 2 weeks knowing that keeping a high profile would hurt the cause.
The fact remains that Liberal/Progressives cant win on a nationwide basis when they stand up and portray themselves honestly. If you cannot accept this you are in for more disappointment in the future.
Paul, I too don’t have time to keep up these days. I don’t know why no one’s trolled me (probably because they know they would get called out pretty quickly, and I would just laugh at them).
That said, the trolling ain’t funny. I’ve come out in favor of SIMPLE registration in the past, but it’s unlikely to happen.
P.S. BTW, make sure and thank REPRESENTATIVE Goyle for me! Hehehe!
RageLOLYou just HAD to get a dig in, didn’t you?Oh well.I dont need elections to tell me how I feel or what I think.I have many complaints this campaign season, but I do admit that the Democrat Party worked very hard in the County, something I have not seen for some time.My hat is off to you for your hard work.Just remember, the US House is set up to be a place for emotions to carry the day, and the Senate as a place to slow things down.America is fickle, always has been.Many Dems won this month that would not have won two years ago.Lets see how many of your “freshman class” make it past the next election cycle.
RageI agree, I think we should EARN the right to post here.Full identification to the Eagle.Registration of screen names and maybe even a password system.Gosh, this is wild stuff.I could go back in the archives, a year or more, and claim to be any Democrat and say something nasty about another Democrat, or vice versa.Trolling is for cowards.
Valid points Paul. It is looking like the Dems also have the Senate. So, Bush will definitely be reined in.
As for how the ‘freshmen’ do that will depend a LOT on who tops the two tickets. WAY too early to predict that.
I agree with Paul and Rage on registration to stop trolls.
Paul: I too have been out of town for several days. If you are inplying that I “trolled” you at 2:00 a.m., so I would have a chance to “defame” you for your sorry stint with that fat bastard in the clerk’s office, you are sadly mistaken. All I was interested in was “your side of the story”, which you have never spoken about here. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt. And Paul, I also was good friends with Jan and David, Jerry, Tom Tatlock ……… and Linton Clark !!!
What story is there?Something bad happen in the clerk’s office?
As I said on the 2nd, from here on out, it’s Paul’s story. Apparently, at this point at least, he’s choosing not to tell it.
Come on paulfrossell.I’m a regular standup guy,not a troll.I’m signed in to typekey so you know who I am.What’s the story?
I feel great relief that I am no longer represented by that stale Bon Bon!I do have to wonder though, about someone who actually got out of Kansas, got a decent education and then returned to the armpit of the universe! Can’t have all his cookies intact!
Pall,I’m not worried about our “freshman class.” They are, after all, a class act! You should be worried about how many of your “good old boys” will stand up under investigation. Some will be going directly to jail, not passing go and not collecting their usual “contributions.”
Moving right along, Rummy resigned and Bobby Gates will replace him. Bobby has experience as former director of the CIA, president of TAMU, and credentials a mile long. Will he be “better” than Rummy? I don’t know. But he certainly will be a breath of fresh air And we needed that. Oh, and BTW, no relation to Bill Gates, before somebody asks !
Heckler,
‘Conservative victory’ for the Democrats, my ass. By that logic, Bush’s 2000 election ‘victory’ was actually a ‘victory’ for liberals, since Bush ran as a ‘compassionate’ conservative, which is to say, as a liberal rather than as a conservative.
Both arguments are equally nonsensical. Voters want the country to head in a new direction on multiple fronts. Democrats won, and Democrats get to decide who we are and where we’re taking the country. Not you.
And to follow up my own post, the most ‘conservative’ Democrat running for office, Harold Ford Jr., went down to defeat in Tennessee.
So, Heckler, conservatism isn’t the default for American voters. They know what they want from their government–namely, tough, smart, competent liberal government–and they know to vote Democratic to get it.
Last night’s election was the American electorate’s repudiation of the Conservative movement. Period.
CF: America is moving toward the middle. It’s obvious, and not all bad. The “two” parties are losing their clout….slowly, I admit, but surely. Maybe it’s not all bad. Guess we’ll have to wait and see. If the Dems are smart, though, they’ll not elect Pelosi as Speaker of the House. Any conservative support they mustered will go down the drain in a heartbeat. that bitch is scary !!
CF
The most conservative Dem running was Webb. Look at his background. Except for his stance against the war in Iraq he could run well in any Red state.
It may be a week or two before that race is decided.
If what America wants is Liberals why did Pelosi and Reid hide for 2 weeks?
CF
…and Bush is no conservative in case you havent noticed..
Paul F. Rosell,
“By the way, my girlfriend is an activist Democrat. She thinks I should quit posting here, since false trolls might hurt my business and my reputation.”
Has your girlfriend read your inaccurate posts here?
A sample of corrections I’ve posted recently, re your falsehoods.===The Iraq “cookbook” docs were given to the U.N. BEFORE the 2003 invasion.
John Kerry’s averaged college grades were on par with Bush’s.
Margaret Sanger was NOT a racist.http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/margaret-sanger-planned-parenthood-founder.htm
The Vikings in Greenland planted fodder crops to feed their sheep.http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/03/greenland-used-to-be-green.html
‘Inhofe’s speech and right-wing global warming myths’http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/9/25/17124/9789
Rush did NOT “apologized if he offended anyone” re Michael J Foxhttp://mediamatters.org/items/200610250014
Global warming is a reality… even Bloomberg News recommends reducing your carbon footprint. http://desmogblog.com/
National Review’s Hayward is not credible,http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/personfactsheet.php?id=46
The IAEA monitored N Korea, from 1994 to Dec 2002.
Citgo service stations are INDEPENDENTLY owned and operated.
Envionmentalists did NOT block levee construction in New Orleans,http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2005-09-13a.asp
“Clinton actually had sex with a page, …”
Monica was a paid employee (not an intern) and was 22+1/2 years old.
Ironically one of the more ‘liberal’ victors yesterday was Lieberman.
Raj Rocks!
Oh, by the way Pall, I live in Bon Bon’s district, and I wasn’t influenced by Raj’s literature. As a matter of fact, I didn’t bother to read most of it. I would have voted for anybody who opposed that old bat!
Heckler–
You’re unbelievable, man.
The Dems sweep both houses and take back Congress that they haven’t had in 12 years–and you say we lost because we didn’t win as big as we “should have.”
Okay, if it makes you happy to think so, go for it, dude.
Congrats to the 87th for electing Raj Goyle!