And so, at long last, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has decided to quit.
You have to wonder about the timing. Might it have helped the GOP had Rumsfeld bowed to the rising chorus of criticism and departed sometime before the election — say, a year or two ago?
We’ll never know. The question now is what this portends for the American strategy — or lack thereof — concerning Iraq. For Bush, maybe jettisoning the weighty baggage of Rumsfeld signals an acceptance that staying the course is not an option with the newly Democratic Congress.
Maybe it’s also a first reach across the aisle in an effort to salvage some sort of legacy in the two lame-duck years that remain in his presidency.
In any case, Rumsfeld’s departure is long overdue. And the man who will replace him, former CIA chief and Wichita native Robert Gates, has his work cut out.
Posted by Dave Knadler
Registered?
Commenting on WE Blog now requires you to be a Kansas.com member. Use the links above to register, if you haven't already, or to log in.Contact us
Follow us
Daily Archives
-
Recent Comments
- BlueJay on Open thread 11/22
- Regular on Open thread 11/22
- Regular on Open thread 11/22
- Rage on Open thread 11/22
- cosmos_originally on Open thread 11/22
- Chas on Open thread 11/22
- BlueJay on Open thread 11/22
- Boxlock20 on Open thread 11/22
- satatom on Open thread 11/22
- JimJohnson on Open thread 11/22
77 Comments
yeeeeeeeehaaaaawwwwwwwwww
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Don’t forget this Lame Duck Congress.
Shrub keeps talking about the Baker-Hamilton Commission.
Jim Baker, the Bush (Sr) consiglieri, is usurping Dick Cheney’s control over George WMD Bush. No way would Rummy be out if the Big Dick still had the ear of the pResident.
Papa Bush is behind the scenes and Baker’s calling the shots.
The new Secretary of Defense must pass Senate confirmation and no way does Shrub want his new nominee to face a Senate commitee chaired by a Democrat.
In a faux attempt at Shrub’s new “bi-partisanship” the White House will try to drive through an Iran/Contra-tainted Bush-41 Secretary of Defense. It might work. If it does, the Big Dick might decide he “wants to spend more time with his family” and resign. It’ll be close to Christmas by then and everyone (well, not the troops in Iraq) will be feeling all softie/feelieand the Lame Duck Senate will confirm Shrub’s nominee to replace the Vice-President: Dan Quayle, or Harriet Woods…someone who might (as Gerald Ford was to Nixon) be insurance against impeachment.
The election is over.
The politics continues.
Bush and his thugs need to be tried for Treason.
New York Times Editorial
Published: September 28, 2006
Rushing Off a Cliff
Here’s what happens when this irresponsible Congress railroads a profoundly important bill to serve the mindless politics of a midterm election: The Bush administration uses Republicans’ fear of losing their majority to push through ghastly ideas about antiterrorism that will make American troops less safe and do lasting damage to our 217-year-old nation of laws — while actually doing nothing to protect the nation from terrorists. Democrats betray their principles to avoid last-minute attack ads. Our democracy is the big loser.
Republicans say Congress must act right now to create procedures for charging and trying terrorists — because the men accused of plotting the 9/11 attacks are available for trial. That’s pure propaganda. Those men could have been tried and convicted long ago, but President Bush chose not to. He held them in illegal detention, had them questioned in ways that will make real trials very hard, and invented a transparently illegal system of kangaroo courts to convict them.
It was only after the Supreme Court issued the inevitable ruling striking down Mr. Bush’s shadow penal system that he adopted his tone of urgency. It serves a cynical goal: Republican strategists think they can win this fall, not by passing a good law but by forcing Democrats to vote against a bad one so they could be made to look soft on terrorism.
Last week, the White House and three Republican senators announced a terrible deal on this legislation that gave Mr. Bush most of what he wanted, including a blanket waiver for crimes Americans may have committed in the service of his antiterrorism policies. Then Vice President Dick Cheney and his willing lawmakers rewrote the rest of the measure so that it would give Mr. Bush the power to jail pretty much anyone he wants for as long as he wants without charging them, to unilaterally reinterpret the Geneva Conventions, to authorize what normal people consider torture, and to deny justice to hundreds of men captured in error.
These are some of the bill’s biggest flaws:
Enemy Combatants: A dangerously broad definition of “illegal enemy combatant” in the bill could subject legal residents of the United States, as well as foreign citizens living in their own countries, to summary arrest and indefinite detention with no hope of appeal. The president could give the power to apply this label to anyone he wanted.
The Geneva Conventions: The bill would repudiate a half-century of international precedent by allowing Mr. Bush to decide on his own what abusive interrogation methods he considered permissible. And his decision could stay secret — there’s no requirement that this list be published.
Habeas Corpus: Detainees in U.S. military prisons would lose the basic right to challenge their imprisonment. These cases do not clog the courts, nor coddle terrorists. They simply give wrongly imprisoned people a chance to prove their innocence.
Judicial Review: The courts would have no power to review any aspect of this new system, except verdicts by military tribunals. The bill would limit appeals and bar legal actions based on the Geneva Conventions, directly or indirectly. All Mr. Bush would have to do to lock anyone up forever is to declare him an illegal combatant and not have a trial.
Coerced Evidence: Coerced evidence would be permissible if a judge considered it reliable — already a contradiction in terms — and relevant. Coercion is defined in a way that exempts anything done before the passage of the 2005 Detainee Treatment Act, and anything else Mr. Bush chooses.
Secret Evidence: American standards of justice prohibit evidence and testimony that is kept secret from the defendant, whether the accused is a corporate executive or a mass murderer. But the bill as redrafted by Mr. Cheney seems to weaken protections against such evidence.
Offenses: The definition of torture is unacceptably narrow, a virtual reprise of the deeply cynical memos the administration produced after 9/11. Rape and sexual assault are defined in a retrograde way that covers only forced or coerced activity, and not other forms of nonconsensual sex. The bill would effectively eliminate the idea of rape as torture.
•There is not enough time to fix these bills, especially since the few Republicans who call themselves moderates have been whipped into line, and the Democratic leadership in the Senate seems to have misplaced its spine. If there was ever a moment for a filibuster, this was it.
We don’t blame the Democrats for being frightened. The Republicans have made it clear that they’ll use any opportunity to brand anyone who votes against this bill as a terrorist enabler. But Americans of the future won’t remember the pragmatic arguments for caving in to the administration.
They’ll know that in 2006, Congress passed a tyrannical law that will be ranked with the low points in American democracy, our generation’s version of the Alien and Sedition Acts.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/28/opinion/28thu1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Bush just told us that everything is going to be the same, and he expects to explain that to the Democrats over lunch at the White House.
Israel just murdered 18 Palestinians in Gaza, using artillery shells.
Israel is a pain in the ass and needs to be disbanded.
My the Eagle gets these threads up quick when they like the news.
When I first heard the news about Sec. Rumsfeld, I had a panic attack, thinking that Bush would bring Paul Wolfowitz back from the World Bank. That would be conclusive evidence that “ain’t nothin’ gonna change” in Iraq.
The confirmation hearings for Mr. Gates will surely be interesting, at least for those of us old enough to recall the goings on in the 80s and early 90s.
I wonder if Bush or Cheney will resign prior to being impeached?
True heckler – note that they never did one about Tiahrt’s refusal to debate.
Ed – you will notice that Bush will never say so much as one word against such atrocities.
The good news just keeps coming – what a great twenty-four hours!!!
Kline out, Sebelius in, Ryan out, Morrison in, South Dakota wakes up, Democrats take the House and Senate, Santorum out, Allen out, Burns out, Harris out, two Dems in the House from Kansas……
And the cherry on top – Rumsfeld is GONE!!!
God is good and this is the proof!!!!!
OH MY.HERE WE GO KFG.HAPPY HAPPYJOY JOYHAPPY HAPPYJOY JOYHAPPY HAPPYJOY JOY
At the noon hour (CST) press conference, Bush all but admitted that he lied to reporters last week when he was telling them that he anticipated Rumsfeld would be staying. This led to a question about whether Cheney might really be in danger given Bush’s positive comments last week. “No”, Bush has “full confidence” in Cheney.
I think it is intereesting that Bush is capable of change after he receives a “thumpin’”. Too bad he can’t be thumped more often.
Why do it now? If Bush was going to dump Rumsfeld, why not do it before the election? It might have at least saved the Senate.
Remember, folks, that Cheney, as a Constitutional officer, cannot be “fired” by the President. BTW, isn’t he “impeachment insurance”, too?
outlander: nope, they can impeach both at the same time. Which means that the new president would be…..Speaker of the House Pelosi!
I wondered that, too, outlander. Maybe he feared it would look like shameless politicing — but that has never stopped him before, has it?
I hope it is the first act of Bush trying to govern in a bipartisan manner. He says he can do it. We will see…
VT – Spiro Agnew was supposed to be insurance too.
hmmm… you nattering nabob of negativism, you; Spiro may have been intended as “impeachment insurance”, but he didn’t have the chance to act in such a way, due to his troubles arising from the time he was Governor of Maryland. For all his warts, I don’t think Cheney comes close.
Robert Gates is from Wichita, if I’m not mistaken.
I guess Dave covered that.
nothing changes remember they all are politicians 1st, then democrat or republican. None of them have our best interest at heart. they just want ot propagate the political machine that runs this country. In a year it will still be the same the average american will continue to get screwed. Taxes will increase in one way or another. They will use a mill levy increase, special sales tax, or an income tax. The taxpayer will continue to pay for pork barrel projects, services for illegals, raises for the poiticians, and so on.
Don’t you just know that Cindy Sheehan is laughing up her sleeve.
Keep in mind that Rumsfeld has attempted to resign before, but Dubya wouldn’t let him. Things have changed now. tee hee
Looks like rats leaving a sinking ship, now that Hassert has decided to step down as House Leader.
Does anyone else besides me wonder if Rummy isn’t leaving in hopes that he won’t be investigated and possibly convicted?
Look for Cheney to bow out before the next election, putting in place a new VP who may then run for prez in ‘08.
I’m glad Rummy got the boot, but I wonder if Gates, given all the bad blood between the CIA and the Pentagon, is really the best choice of replacement.
What happened to “THE DECIDER”??
I think bush was very surprised by the election. No doubt KKKarl Rove is behind this decision. Desperation.
At the press conference, bush at first said he knew Rumsfeld would be going but did not want that injected into the debate just before the election. Then two minutes later, bush said he did not know Rumsfeld would be going.
The guy is melting down. He looked like a whipped pup.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Rumsfeld will still speak at K-State tomorrow.
Video and transcript of Bush today admitting his ‘Rumsfeld staying’ last week wasn’t true.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/08/bush-lied-rumsfeld/
Can we say, “flip-flop?”
More like flubba-flubba-flubba … you know, the sound of a flat tire.
Why don’t you just say it? President Bush LIED again.
Hey couldn’t Bush be impeached for saying that Rummie was gonna stay?
I guess that can only happen under oath.
You cannot say for sure that Bush lied. To do that he would have to know that it was a lie; he is so delusional that he doesn’t know the difference.
At least he is consistent…?
‘VIDEO: Bush Caught In Lie About Snow Resignation’http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/30/bush-snow-lie/
Funny how the Republicans come to the Kansas Refuge for fallen REpublicans. Cheney, Bush Rumsfeld. Not too many places they can be comfortable.
So I was wondering, when the military is disbanded by the Dems, will that money go to Burkas and prayer rugs and the muslim re-education camps?
Also, I’m one of those idiots who works to pay all the taxes and “entitlements” that the Dems are going to bring forward.Will the time to pray 5 times a day towards mecca be considered part of my break time or will it be paid time?
Looks like Bush got the congress he wanted. How else can he remove the word “illegal” from ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
We heard in last-minute campaigning by the GOP that a vote for Dems was a vote for terrorism. Today, Mr. Bush was extremely conciliatory in his remarks about uberliberal Nancy Pelosi.
Okay karioke time. Come on everybody, let’s all sing together, “What a difference a day makes, 24 little hours. Brought the sun and the flowers, where there used to be rain…”
Yesterday, several states voted on initiatives, ranging from legalization of marijuana to restrictions on eminent domain, i.e. proposals instigated by non-politicians. Kansas doesn’t have an initiative allowance. Why not? What is the political elite here afraid of? Too many “uneducated” people voting on things? Who are these “uneducated” people?
Initiatives have checks and balances. States that allow the initiative put up competing legislature-written referenda to give people a choice. Courts can and do intercede and overrule them if they are unconstitutional. Basically, they are a means of the little people expressing themselves, and waking politicians up. Not a bad idea at all.
Gene–
You listen to A LOT of Rush, don’t you.
You might want to go cold turkey and let the healing begin.
I’ve heard that after a week of no exposure to spittle-flecked right-wing ranting, a kernal of rationality begins to take root.
I’m praying for you, man . . .
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven’t found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think — let me take that, both pieces — the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/t03302003_t0330sdabcsteph.html
“Memories, from the corners of my mind
Ah, the way we were.”
Great men raise others up. Bush takes them down.
Bush is Richard the Third.
“And since I cannot prove a lover, to entertain these fair well-spoken days, I am determined to prove a villain, and hate the idle pleasures of these days.”
He destroys everyone around him before he himself is destroyed.
Gene?
MOST of our conservatives are being more gracious. NEW bitterness does not serve you well. Ya got served a big does of humble pie and you are gonna have to eat it and work with us. YOU know, like you haven’t for the last 6 years?
Hey Capn? He aint getting it from Rush! If no one else does, I’ll get some cutnpastes of Rush today. Rush bailed on bush and Republicans today. He is now acting as though he is bigger than them. Hell he always thought that. It’s just that now his foot soldiers have failed and he does not wanna eat his piece of it. Even his dittohead followers deserve better.
I think George Daddy will once again intercede. Daddy went down to Texas and successfully wildcatted. Son Georgie tried to copycat Daddy and failed. Same with a congressional office bid. Daddy finally set up a baseball-team scheme that allowed Son to become a millionaire. Probably helped too in Son’s gubernatorial and presidential campaigns. In any case, Son totally FUBARED his presidency, so Daddy is sending in James Baker and Robert Gates to pull Little Georgie’s buns out of the fire. Dick Cheney is going to be marginalized to irrelevence in the next two years.
I don’t know if Condi’s going to make it. Clinton inherited the end of the Cold War. He didn’t worry about Russia. He DID worry about Arabic terrorism? Why did Bush 43 pick an academic expert in the Soviet Union to be his national security advisor (who ignored loud warnings of an Arabic terrorist attack on the U.S.)? Why did he make her Secretary of State? Probably, because Dickie Cheney told him to promote her. She’s a real piece of work product of the downside of affirmative action. Many African Americans should be advanced. Condi’s not one of them. Or put another way, she’s fulfilled the Peter Principle: people rise to the level of their incompetence. She’s out of her field, and over her head.
Correction: Clinton inherited the end of the Cold War. He didn’t worry about Russia. He DID worry about Arabic terrorism. should have been a statement, not a question.
“Even his dittohead followers deserve better.”
In the immortal words of Geoff Achison, ” with the words dripping off his shoes: someone tell me something that I don’t know.”
You nailed it JR.
Didn’t think I’d be singing this song again so soon.
Big Don, this one’s for you.
“Na na na NA, na na na NA, hey he-ey GOOD BYE Na na na NA, na na na NA, hey he-ey GOOD BYE”
Everybody now!
“Na na na NA, na na na NA, hey he-ey GOOD BYE”
Here’s what the Dems will do first–
Friday, October 06, 2006
By David Espo
The Associated Press ran the following story today:
Franklin Roosevelt had his first hundred days.
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi is thinking 100 hours, time enough, she says, to begin to “drain the swamp” after more than a decade of Republican rule.
As in the first 100 hours the House meets after Democrats — in her fondest wish — win control in the Nov. 7 midterm elections and Pelosi takes the gavel as the first Madam Speaker in history.
Day One: Put new rules in place to “break the link between lobbyists and legislation.”
Day Two: Enact all the recommendations made by the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step. Cut the interest rate on student loans in half. Allow the government to negotiate directly with the pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices for Medicare patients.
Broaden the types of stem cell research allowed with federal funds — “I hope with a veto-proof majority,” she added in an Associated Press interview Thursday.All the days after that: “Pay as you go,” meaning no increasing the deficit, whether the issue is middle class tax relief, health care or some other priority.
To do that, she said, Bush-era tax cuts would have to be rolled back for those above “a certain level.” She mentioned annual incomes of $250,000 or $300,000 a year and higher, and said tax rates for those individuals might revert to those of the Clinton era. Details will have to be worked out, she emphasized.
“We believe in the marketplace,” Pelosi said of Democrats, then drew a contrast with Republicans. “They have only rewarded wealth, not work.”
See what I miss from working all day, paying my taxes, damn me being a liberal…
I missed the big news, had a message on my computer after I got home that rummy resigned. Man this day just can’t get any better. I went to bed last night thinking Talent had won Missouri, that Allen had won Virginia, and today I find out that the dems sweeped the house and split the senate. Now Rummy too! The abortion ban in South Dakota didn’t pass either. BOO on Missouri’s stem cell research (My homestate wahhh) And BOO HISS for keeping Tiahrt, Willard, and Moran.
Hey how many KANSAS house and senate seats were won by dems this election? I never got a raw number?
Oh happy dayyyy!
Well Capn, I bet Bush will finally find his veto pen for some of that stuff. I will go you one better on the minimum wage, though. Once it is set, it should be indexed to inflation and forgotten about.
I awoke this evening to the news of Rumfields resigning and being replace. AND the quoting of Bush that it had been in the works since before Nov. 7th, BUT he did not want to sway the election. My first reaction…“MY F**KING ASS!”. Bush is so delusional that he actually thought he could not lose control of the Congress and Senate! But some will point out I am sure at this point the Senate has not been lost since the voting is still being counted in Virginia. Which I might add sound vaguely familiar with what happen in Florida in 2000.
So who knows ( Ok Rowe may already know), but we are standing at the beginning of the pentacle. Either the wrongs will be righted or the end will continue. Either this nation will fall with the declaring of martial law in a finally power grab and the beginning of another civil war in this country. Or the country will right its self.
Again, Bush&Co are not Republican, nor did they have the best interest of the United States. This has been shown by the side tracking of the real war against those that attacked us by the invasion of Iraq. By the over reaching and attempt to over rule the Constitution of the United States. You do not save your house by setting it on fire, nor do you save the American citizens by denying them their rights. If you are at war, then it is totally at war. To select only what benefits select few and deny the masses is not acting in the interest of the country. It is enacting your agenda that you have taken over the Presidency to enact.
I remain hopeful that this nation will become what it once was, but we are at the beginning of the pentacle.And still two more years that Bush will be the legal President, after that who knows?
I too was away for much of this wonderful day from blogging.
I am happy to bring political mom and writerdog the news.
AP has called Virginia for Webb. I predicted this earlier on another thread. Allen has his eye on the oval office and that ambition is not helped by a nasty recount fight unless he really thought he could win. It is not trending that way. Allen will likely concede by tomorrow afternoon.
And so, Dems hold both houses. Now bush and company have no choice but to listen to others. There will be no more unilateralism.
Interesting and maybe helpful is the new Senate. If I am correct, it works out like this:
Dems 49Republicans 49
Lieberman (independent Dem)
Jeffords (independent former republican)
This takes Cheney’s tie breaker out of the equation. It ALSO give the 2 independents TREMENDOUS power. Not necessarily a bad thing….
Throwing Rummy under the bus? Looks a little too political to me. Then there is the fact that bush can’t get his story straight about it. Tells me it was not his idea.
It will NOT make up for the failures of the last 6 years.
Prediction? If Rove has any political sense at all, Cheney will go soon. He will be replaced by whoever they want to groom to run in 08.
Hmmmmm maybe Allen?
J RJeffords retired. Independent Bernie Sanders is replacing him.
Wonder if Rumsfeld will do a press conference or the traditional Landon luncheon tomorrow in Manhattan.
Hey, Ed! Can Cindy stay at your house? You seem meant for each other.
Somebody somewhere else pointed out a delicious fact: Pat Roberts now loses his chairmanship of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and we all now get to see those intelligence reports he’s been suppressing for all these years.
Time to do the people’s business.
Outlander, that’s some serious sense you’re talking about indexing minimum wage to inflation. If I didn’t think it would insult you to say so, I’d say you went and got religion.
Wow. We have a country. American Democracy works. God bless the United States of America.
(sniff)
Ahem.
I know you conservatives have had a rough day.
Well I am going to help YOU out. It won’t LOOK like help, but it is well meant. Honest!
Most of the conservative posters here have been very gracious in defeat. Hey it’s about time! You’ve had your way for 6 years now. And you haven’t been very gracious in that to those on the the other side.
But at least YOU take your lumps, dust yourself off, and fight your fight. Welcome to what it has been like to be on the other side for 6 years.
Well one of your “heroes” is not so gracious. He didn’t lose with you. YOU lost because YOU failed him!
I speak of Rush Limbaugh. The following was said by him today:
“Now, I mentioned to you at the conclusion of the previous hour that people have been asking me how I feel all night long. I got, “Boy, Rush, I wouldn’t want to be you tomorrow! Boy, I wouldn’t want to have to do your show! Oh-ho. I’m so glad I’m not you.” Well, folks, I love being me. (I can’t be anybody else, so I’m stuck with it.) The way I feel is this: I feel liberated, and I’m going to tell you as plainly as I can why. I no longer am going to have to carry the water for people who I don’t think deserve having their water carried.”
Now you conservatives disagree with my side on a fundamental level. But I tell ya this. We don’t sell out our own like Limbaugh did to you today.
You think on that.
Like I said, even dittoheads deserve better.
Well said CF.
I expected otherwise this election. The confident arrogance of Rove and bush made me fear the fix was in.
I am pleased I was wrong. Their arrogant self confidence was more of their distance from reality. They are about to get REAL NEWLY acquainted with reality.
Now you conservatives disagree with my side on a fundamental level. But I tell ya this. We don’t sell out our own like Limbaugh did to you today.Posted by: J R | November 08, 2006 at 10:13 PM
Joe Lieberman would probably beg to differ.
Rush is scum as far as I’m concerned. He’s mean spirited bigot. Conservatism without a moral base is bigotry in my opinion plain and simple. From Rush’s personal record, I question his moral compass.
Wow no more war…More illegals.free everything.where do I sign up for all the democratic give me’s.. or will I have to wait 2 years..
Mr. KIA,
I appreciate the integrity.
driabyor,
Now that Democrats control BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS, the bonanza is over. That is, the billions in no-bid contracts and freebies for Bechtel, KBR, and Halliburton will come to an end.
I know this isn’t what you meant. But I think the money that was dumped into Iraq war profiteering would be much better spent, say, rebuilding the Gulf Coast.
Thank God: the grownups who know how to make government work are finally back in charge.
JR,With Webb being declared the victor in VA, the count in the U.S. senate is:
Democrats – 51
Republicans – 49.
The above totals include the two independents, one of who votes Dem (Libermann) and the other votes Republican usually.
So, the Dems have a majority that Cheney’s vote cannot touch.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/election.main/index.html
SD, thanks for supporting my statement of last night. I’m an analyst. The numbers tell the tale in elections. If Webb was ahead by 70 votes, a recount might reverse the election. 700 would be iffy. 7000 is un-reversible.
I am sorry I had the independents voting plans wrong. This according to cnn:
“A victory by Webb would put the new Senate lineup at 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans and two independents — Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Joe Lieberman of Connecticut — who have said they would caucus with the Democrats.”
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/election.main/index.html
Both independents are with the Dems.
“Both independents are with the Dems.”
Well, hell, SD, considering the way the wind was blowing yesterday and how lucky they are to be winners, I’d say being with the Dems at this point is the only intelligent thing they could do.
It’s going to get interesting, that’s for sure.
Donald Rumsfeld is a good man who dedicated his professional service to public life — may he retire in peace to all of the things that we all enjoy…grandkids, great- grandkids, little or none of the pressure he has lived with 24/7 for many, many years. I say, “Thank you , Don, for a job well done … not perfect, but who of us can claim that?” Bobby Gates is a fine replacement … the fact that he would even consider the job, let alone agree to it, speaks volumes about his character. Please, for all of our sakes, give him a chance to begin with a clean slate. It’s too early to start making illogical and ill-conceived partisan judgements.
He can have that picture of himself shaking Saddam’s hand in 1982 blown up and framed . . .
He was an evil bastard destroyed by an even bigger evil bastard.
And three thousand American boys are laid in the ground, dead for a pack of lies.
Right, Steven D.–
Bernie Sanders is the closest thing we have to a socialist in Congress. He’s way left of the Democrats.
CF writes–
Somebody somewhere else pointed out a delicious fact: Pat Roberts now loses his chairmanship of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and we all now get to see those intelligence reports he’s been suppressing for all these years.
Oh, man, that’s right . . . oh, holy mackeral, that’s huge!
Now all the lies and cover-ups will be revealed.
Let’s see Roberts keep his seat after we see what he’s kept hidden.
Bush’s house of cards comes tumbling down, not with a crash but with a whimper.
There’s more dead bodies collapsed around this man than at the end of Hamlet.
He’s a catastrophe that walks on two legs like a man.
JR I quit watching Rush years ago and was only watching him because I could not believe someone could be so blind as he is. He would come on at lunch time and my co-workers and I would watch. all of us were lower middle class and I thought I was the only one that saw how he was a joke. The others, bless them thought he spoke for them. They just could not see that when he said “The unwashed masses” that he was referring to them. It was a sad day when they finally figure it out, then we started watching the news.
Rush speaks for the top, elitist minority of the conservatives the rest are gum on his shoe to him. It is unfortunate that most do not see it and shout “Go Rush!” while he talks about them.
Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer … if you like to listen to his crap. He sure as hell doesn’t know jack-shit about politics. But, he’s got the Oxycontin figured out !
rm,No, actually the Oxy has him figured out!
Point well taken, Jed . Score: Jed 1, RM 0 !
Heartlander: Three women … Billary, Pelosi, Condi !!! Condi could easily triumph in a battle of wits among the three, but she has too much class to take on unarmed opponents. And way too many important issues on her plate to waste her time talking to self-idolating demagogue wannabes !To even suggest that she is in over her head is beyond rational comprehension.
Condi?!?!?! One of the architects of the disaster we are mired in? Ya gotta be kidding!
The only thing Condi would best them is would be lying with a straight face.
EH,
That’s the great thing about the internet: nobody knows you’re really a dog. That is, until you make a point of showing that you know how to cut and paste ad infinitum.
POOR BABY!
Just a little bitter are we? Blaming your melt-down on others?