Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., is trying to use support from evangelical Christians as a base for a presidential run. That might not be a very good plan, given last week’s election results. Also, that base, according to a Newsweek poll, is pretty tiny. Of evangelicals surveyed, only 1 percent said there was a good chance they would vote for Brownback for president, and only 11 percent said there was some chance. Meanwhile, 37 percent said there was no chance, and 43 percent said they had never heard of Brownback.
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Can you imagine another “I am a superior Christian” president would do to this country. Bush thinks God is on his side. This is why his Christian arrogance has clouded his judgment. Brownback is worse.
How did I miss Bush saying he was a ’superior Christian’? I wonder daily when being Christian became something to hang your head about. You can be one just don’t let anyone else know it. I thought that was China or some other country who persecutes Christian.
On Brownback’s nomination for president: I imagine we will see lots of trial balloons floated to see what the reaction is before we have two nominees for the 08 election.
Personally, I see Bush as being one of those holier-than-thou Christians and he tried to ram it down everyone’s throat (of course that was to appease his Religious Right base).
Why is such a sin to question a Christian? Why do Christians immediately cry persecution if anyone does mention if someone is a Christian?
Perseuction of one’s faith is when it is banned and driven underground. I don’t think Christianity has been underground or banned in this country?
What I see in the Religious Right group is a bunch of so-called Christians.
A true Christian does not have to keep telling people they are Christian. People should be seeing that person is a Christian by their actions.
And before you start stomping down on me as a Christian hater – I graduated from a Baptist Bible College and can quote Scripture with the best of them. My difference is – I try to live what the Bible says and not cram it down everyone’s throat.
I hope the Religious Right does push for Sam Brownback to run for president in 2008. That would just the ticket to assure a Democrat president in 2008!
The majority of Americans saw what the Religious Right did in the 6 years of Bush. And that same majority rejected that on election day.
wonder how close he is to Haggard?????
Brownback thinks his wife is only good for breeding and house work. YOu can tell that by watching his commercials when he ran against Docking
Brownback is behind Haggard all the way.
Lucee, I just love this thread. No where but in America would we be able to be so diverse. If you can quote scripture how about ‘judge not that ye be likewise judged’. How about God telling us to be hot or cold because if we were lukewarm he would spew us out of his month. I just said he is upfront about his faith. How He hasn’t denied anyone access because of their faith whether it is Muslin, Jewish, Buddissim or Christianity. Why be so narrow minded in your judgements. He has called the Muslim relegion a peaceful relegion with some militant members. Hardly holier that thou to me. Educate yourself beyond that college degree to see exactly what is happening in this world we habitate.
Suza (and others)This last election was NOT a “re-alignment” election.The way the population feels about taxes, government growth, social issues, national security, etc. has not changed very much at all. The public simply lost confidence in Republicans to deliver on these issues.The Republican Party did not do a good job of keeping its promises to its base, I admit that. We also did a poor job of explaining ourselves.However, not many Republicans ran on traditionally Democratic issues did they?Look what the Democrats just did:Several pro-life Democrats were just elected to Congress.Several pro-gun conservative Democrats were just elected as well.Sebelius ran ads claiming she did not raise taxes (the legislature stopped her, but that is beside the point.) and she ran Lieberman-like pro military ads as well.Morrison, for his part, showed that the public is uncomfortable with the Government obtaining medical records without just cause. (Morrison, himself, gets medical records all the time, under court order, just like Kline does, but that is beside the point.) This privacy issue is a rather hot issue when it comes to “National Health Insurance” dont you think? Who will have our medical records under “Hillary Care??”
“Pride commeth before the fall.”
The Republican Party did suffer from fatigue in some ways, arrogance in others, and laziness in not explaining ourselves very well, prior to the elections. However, these results and weaknesses ALWAYS happen in a non-Presidential election year, for the party that controls the White House.
We are a very divided nation. Even so, we are a Centrist/Conservative nation, according to what people believe.
If I am wrong, why did the Democrats openly recruit so many “conservatives” this time?
By the way, remember the case, “Planned Parenthood vs Casey”??It was the son of the former Governor Casey who beat Santorum.
Yes, the Republican Party has been humbled. I believe that we needed a wake up call, and that we will use this lesson to come back again, that is what the 2-Party system is all about!
I believe Democrats, manhy of whom hid their true views, should not create “mandates” where none exist. Go right ahead, however, that kind of “pride” will only lead to your downfall!
Iraq and scandal hurt the Republicans this year, more than anything else.Therefore, on issues that have nothing to do with Iraq or scandal, you have a very small mandate, if any, on the Democrat side.
Even if you disagree with everything posted by me, above, ask yourself these questions:
What happens if Iraq turns around?What happens if Bush is proven right?What are the chances of a Democrat scandal before the next election?
Democrats win by pretending to be conservative, or by actually being conservative.Democrats also win when Republicans screw up.
You won, Congrats!
Can you keep it up?
Time will tell, but history doesnt support your take on this very well.
“What happens if Bush is proven right?”
What happens if the moon is made of green cheese after all? That is more likely.
Spin ‘er, Paul. If it makes you feel better.
Final tally: House, Senate and lots of new governors.
Uh, all Democrats.
That’s the bottom line.
Right on Paul but I fear you went a little far and have confused the masses with logic and facts.
Paul Rosell
We do not need your judgement of our victory or your advice as to what to do with it. Keep your hands off it. YOU are political poison. Every candidate you shilled for got beat! Go tell bonbon Huy what to do with her political future!
You don’t have to be conservative to be able to handle logic and facts, ksgrm. I often find it is a lot clearer and more logical over here on this side.
And, read again what I wrote to Paul. I do believe the fact that WE WON is pretty clear and logical.
“I believe Democrats, manhy of whom hid their true views, should not create ‘mandates’ where none exist.”
The Democrats out polled the Republicans TWICE as much as Bush did in the last election . . . the one that he claimed gave him a mandate.
“What happens if Iraq turns around?What happens if Bush is proven right?”
Yeah, I’m sure that Iraq is going to turn around ANY DAY NOW. Bush proven right about what? The WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!
Reality . . . it’s not just for Democrats anymore.
JR Bonnie Huy’s career might be a lot brighter than Raj Goyle’s. Yes, campaigning inside polling places is breaking a federal law and there are plenty of witnesses ready to testify that he was doing exactly that at their polling place.
Ksgrm–
All blow and no show.
You think a Harvard law school grad exposed himself to this kind of a charge?
Okay, fine, looks like the fantasy thinking hasn’t changed despite the sobering election results.
Quit whining and get over it.
It did surprise me also that a Harvard grad would flaunt the law like that. I personally saw the poll captain kick him out of Maranatha. I guess there some things they don’t teach at Harvard. The real mystery was “Why did a Harvard grad want a $23,000 a year state representative job and was willing to spend over $200,000 to get it”?
ksgrm
I THINK you just strapped yourself to Paul F Rosell. Not a wise move that.
YOU are now consigned to the realm of bitter kooks. You and Paul can rant and rave and swing from the ceiling and spit chiclets.
The adults are now in charge!
The only “base” sammy has are those folks who were bigoted enough to actually adopt “snowflake” babies.And there’s how many?Does anybody even know?Are the ten or twelve that he exploited on the boob tube the only ones?I hope so. There’s real live babies in dire need worldwide.
Yellowback’s invade the world/invite the world brand of neo-CONism is kaput! Yellowback is finished as a political force.
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
ksgrm – When will all those witnesses be testifying under oath in court?
“I thought that was China or some other country who persecutes Christian.”
hee hee hee hee hee
To quote Reagan “there you go again…”
That persecuted majority whine didnt work last week and it still isnt working now.
The last I heard, generalissimo franco is still dead….
And please paulie, keep up the shillie about how the only dems who won were really republicans.
heheeheheh
I wanna still hear that in 08. Why? Because it is the sweet sound of victory for non-republicans.
It was the 6 year slump, it happened to Ike too. Nancy will be a 1 term wonder. Just wish the first woman speaker could speak. She’s worse than the Prez. Reminds me of the doofus aunt on Bewitched with a face lift.
Was Brownback ever a serious candidate? I must say that I am not an evangelical nor am I even that religious (non practicing Jew) but the notion that evangelicals and others who take their faith seriously vote in a monolithic bloc or for the most religious candidate is absurd. Brownback and Huckabee would be running away with the GOP nomination. That this is not the case indicates that GOP voters, from religious conservatives of libertarians, weigh all the options. I for one will be voting for Guiliani, not becasuye I am socially liberal because I am not at all, but becaseu i beleive the greatest threat to religion and libertarianism is teh growth of government. The most capable man to slay teh dragon of big government is Rudy Guiliani.
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