Phelpses sink to a new low

It was hard to imagine that the Phelps clan could sink any lower. Then it announced plans to protest the funerals of the Amish schoolgirls who were murdered this week. The group ended up agreeing not to protest in exchange for an hour of radio time Thursday on Mike Gallagher’s syndicated talk show. That deal may be akin to negotiating with terrorists, but it’s probably worth it to keep the Phelpses as far way from the funerals as possible.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

80 Comments

  1. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    #@&%**@%!!!!

  2. Ben Huie
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    I hear it’s open season in PA.

  3. Dennis
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Well said, Tracy. I believe you curse for all of us.

  4. lucee
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    I fail to see the connection in Phelps wanting to picket the Amish people? This is one religion that I actually admire. They really live what they preach – no like our Conservative Religious Right hypocrits.

  5. Will
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Lucee,When you make blanket accusations on entire groups of people, you only show yourself to be as ignorant as the Phelpses.

    food for thought.

  6. Jed
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Y’know, Phelps is reveling in being the most hated man in America. The more we hate him the better he likes it.What we need to do is simply fail to acknowledge his existence. Don’t write about him, don’t photograph him or his followers, don’t discuss his statements or actions, don’t have any commerce with him. Let him be a forgotten footnote in an obscure history book; in the words of George Orwell, let him become an “unperson.”

  7. CF
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Will,

    Take your own advice the next time you feel a blanket denunciation of ‘liberal progressives’ or ‘jews’ coming on.

    As the the Phelpses, it’s hard to think of anything more perverse than this decision.

  8. Ian Santiago
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Jed,

    I have said all along to just ignore the Phelps circus! but no, you bleating leftists jump up and down like monkeys and talk about limiting free speech and suggesting re-education camps for their kinder. The cure is always worse than the disease with you bolsheviks!

    Viva La Raza Blanco!!

  9. Will
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    CF,

    Oh yeah! You’re one to talk Mr. “Party of Pedophiles!!!”

  10. Jed
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Ian,Where have I ever said that about Phelps? Links please!

  11. Todd
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Props to Gallagher.

  12. nunyer
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Boycott that particular Gallagher show and its advertisers. Deny Phuqued-Up Phred the attention he craves, and he and his progeny will crawl back under their slimy rocks.

  13. jw
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    How about fifty lashes for Fred and his crew? The news media as well as all Americans should shun these people.

  14. Ben Huie
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Apparently Pharisee Phred has changed his mind. It would have been quite a contrast to have seen his hate-mongers next to the love-filled Amish. I’m sure the Amish would have quietly and humbly prayed for him.

  15. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Okay, Jed.I’m not writing about him as we speak. HA

  16. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Ben you’re probably right, but everyone would rather see him get his ugly ass kicked by a bunch of bearded disciples.

  17. Jael
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    At least the Phelps will be kept away from those grieving families. I don’t know that they would have appreciated the Patriot Guard at their funerals, either, though I know the Guard would have gone to protect the mourners from the sounds and sights of the Phelps, but I’d think anything’s better than that hateful group of “baptists.”

  18. Paul
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    The Phelpses chances of ending up in “Heaven” is as likely as Osama ending up with a bunch of “virgins”

  19. CHARLES NEWLON
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    YOU TRY TO TUNE THIS IDIOT OUT.BUT YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN JUST GO SO FAR. AS A RESIDENT OF KANSASI FEEL THAT HE IS JUST MAKING ALL OF US LOOK LIKE PREJUDICE MORANS.AND THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE A MAN OFGOD, HEAVEN HELP US

  20. Ricky
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Yea the phelps are bad news. whats crazy is she as in Abagail Phelps works at the Kansas Juvenile Correctional Complexi remember when Abagail was very obese but now she looks like a linebacker

  21. Ben Huie
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Hopefully Pharisee Phred and Heretic Osama will share the same cage.

  22. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    I NEVER WANTED TO BE A MORAN!!What’s a moran?Is that like the opposite of a geen-yus?

  23. Jim G.
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Hate to say it but we all go to heaven. Phelps will be there. We shall learn the absolute truth when out souls ascend, until then we have to choose how we will suffer fools.

  24. Jed
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Jael,As offensive as Phelps would be, I’m afraid the Patriot Guard, as much as I support them, would have been just as offensive to the Amish.

  25. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Ya’ know what? I just realized that he looks a lot like Freddie from Nightmare On Elm Street.

  26. P. Julius
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    AMISH SCHOOL RECOVERY FUND

    Let’s demonstrate what Kansans are really about:

    The Mennonite Disaster Service (MDS) and Mennonite Central Committee (MCC) are in contact with Amish community leaders and are offering support through a joint response. Contributions to the Amish School Recovery Fund will help the affected community with medical care, transportation, supportive care and other needs.

    Tax-deductible donations can be made by calling MCC at (717) 859-1151, or MDS at (717) 859-2210. To donate online, go to mds.mennonite.net or mcc.org. To donate by mail, send checks to MCC or MDS at the following addresses with the words “Amish School Recovery Fund” in the memo line.

    Mennonite Disaster Service1018 Main StreetAkron , PA 17501

    Mennonite Central Committee21 S. 12th St.P.O. Box 500Akron , PA 17501

    For more information, contact Scott Sundberg, director of communications for MDS, at (717) 859-2210, (717) 917-8827 or ssundberg@mds.mennonite.net, or contact Larry Guengerich, media/education coordinator for MCC, at (717) 333-2826 or lrg@mcc.org.

  27. Lonesome biker
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    As being a Patriot Guard myself I would not hesitate to call on my brothers and sisters of the guard to be there for the families. If at all posible I would be there.Someone like Phelp’s needs therapy to find out insane they really are.

  28. Chris
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Fred and his group are just one more example of why religious extremists and zealots should not be condoned. His definitive “teachings” are no better than the ramblings of Charles Manson with his “family”. Amazingly enough, Fred is surrounded with his “family”, too.

  29. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Jim G, thanks for your absolution.I shall rest well in the knowledge of my impending salvation.

  30. Jed
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Tracy,A Moran is a congressman,ie. one step lower than moron.

  31. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    Julius–Amen.The Mennonites rebuilt much of our town after a tornado in 2000.ON THEIR DIME & THEIR TIME,TRUE DISCIPLES OF CHRIST.

  32. Jed
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy G,If Phelps goes to heaven, I’ll choose hell any day!

  33. Ben Huie
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Lonesome, jael – I think Jed is probably right. As much as I admire your work I don’t think the Amish community would be the right place. Instead what I would look to see would be a line of men with their backs to the Pharisee. That and their praying for the miscreants’ souls.

    PJ – thanks.

  34. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Jed, thanks.I drive through Moran on the way to lawrence.Used to go the the MKT rod and gun club there ocassionaly.

  35. CHARLES
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    SORRY. I GUESS I AM ONE OF THEMORONS. MORAN IS A TOWN IN SEKANSAS

  36. TRACY
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Charles it’s cool.Only morans point out typos.D’oh!!

  37. Ben Huie
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    TRACY – and a whole lot of other towns over the years.

  38. Ben Huie
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    http://news.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/10/04/amish-say-they-forgive-school-shooter/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2FWNT%2Fstory%3Fid%3D2523941%26page%3D1%26CMP%3DOTC-RSSFeeds0312

    Amish Say They ‘Forgive’ School Shooter

    NICKEL MINES, Pa., Oct. 3, 2006 — We arrived in this community of Nickel Mines, Pa., curious about how the Amish, who live differently than most Americans do, might react to what was an unthinkable act of violence.

    It didn’t take long for us to learn that the Amish families most affected by this tragedy have responded in a way that might seem foreign to most of us: They talk about Monday’s school shooting only in terms of forgiveness.

  39. Wendy
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Did anyone actually read Shirley Phelps-Roper’s quote on Foxnews.com???? If people didn’t think the Phelpses were off their rockers before…. Seriously. And I agree that the best method would be to simply form a wall with our backs turned to the Phelps and Ignore them. In fact, I propose that when one of them finally dies (if they do, isn’t the devil immortal???) that’s what we should do at their funeral….

  40. Dennis
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    When Fred and his thugs picketed my church, we took cookies, coffee and water out to them. It was a hot day. Must have worked, they haven’t been back. Cover ‘em with kindness. It startles them.

  41. bob
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    The Phelps have no purpose on this planet except to serve as a bad example. Their actions in the past are truly deplorable, but this attempt to protest the funerals of innocent children proves they have no agenda — none of those children have anything to do with their previously proclaimed justification. Pray for those children. Pray for their families.Pray for that close knit community. Ignore Phony Phred Phelps and his incestuous white-trash brood.

  42. political_mom
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    The amish really don’t get too worked up about death and dying. Lots like Mennonites, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons..living is just a temporary stop to a more permanent, more loving place anyway. They’re not going to let this affect them in the way it has affected everyone else.

  43. In Topeka
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    I am sure the Amish are not only praying for the murderers family but also Fred and his family that they would be delivered from their hatred. We need to be like the Amish and pray for them and especially their children. Prayer works, if all of America is praying for their salvation something is bound to happen.

  44. raptor
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Patriot Guard only goes where we are invited. I doubt the Amish would invite us. Besides, we are not in existence to counter Phelps, but to honor and respect the fallen warriors.

    I have been to many funerals where that cult was not in attendance, but we are still there. To honor and respect the fallen as well as his/her family.

    That cult of hate might have prompted our formation, but they are not the reason we continue to do what we do. As such, Patriot Guard is not a protest or counter protest group.

  45. Postal
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    I would join the Patriot Guard, but the problem is my pseudo-Harley (read: Kawasaki) is about as loud as my Saturn. I think I’d be labeled as “gay,” and then the Phelpses would picket ME. lol

  46. Dustin
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    I understand they protest b/c the soldiers they protest against has some type of “sins” in their family or family history. I guess they don’t believe in forgiveness. But I don’t see what Amish people could have done to be so sinful. Ummm… maybe nothing? I guess they’re just jealous.

  47. Wiseman
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I am willing to pitch in a little funding to send the Phelps family over to Iraq.That would be interesting to see how that turns out.

  48. Jed
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Wise,You kidding? The Iraqis would deport him in a heartbeat!

  49. HadOurPhill
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    http://hadourphill.blogspot.com/

  50. peace
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    “Hate to say it but we all go to heaven. Phelps will be there. We shall learn the absolute truth when out souls ascend, until then we have to choose how we will suffer fools.”

    Hate to say it, but we DON’T all go to heaven. There is also a hell, and anyone that thinks we all go to heaven, may be in for a big shock if they dont get straight with God BEFORE they die, because once you’re dead, its too late. I also think Satan is using the Phelps cult to make people think thats the way all Christians are.

  51. In Topeka
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    I Coudn’t have said it better myself, peace. Matter of fact there will be more people in Hell than in Heaven and I am positive none of the Phelps will be there unless they repent and turn from their evil ways. Satan is using them to do his work, if anyone believes in their message they will go to the same place the Phelps will end up. I am from Topeka and I am ashamed when I see them acting in this manner. Up here we have to see them on the street corners everyday. If we can go after terrorist for coming up against our country why can’t the government do something about these people? I don’t understand and I am sickened by it all.

  52. raptor
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Postal..

    You are welcome in Patriot Guard! We don’t all ride Harleys. Matter of fact, there are many supporters and members who don’t have a motorcycle at all. Not everyone flies a large flag from their bike, either.

    Check the websites, patriotguard.org and you will see that the only requirements are a desire to honor/respect fallen warriors.

  53. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Few if any would doubt that Fred Phelps is mentally ill.

    Specifically, he is suffering with an Oedipus Complex, which is an all-consuming self-hatred based on sexual guilt.

    Freud said that if you just listen, they’ll tell you what’s wrong with them. So, I assumed it was homosexuality, as his “God hates Fags sign” indicates, and protesting military funerals was asking a soldier’s family member to kill him, therefore atoning for his sexual guilt and making that family member become a dead soldier for God { “God loves dead soldiers” }.

    But when Fred offered to picket those Amish girl’s funerals, he upped the anti.

    Fred Phelps is signaling that he is specifically a homosexual pedophile, which most likely killed the children he molested.

    It will be interesting to listen to his rant on the radio, as he will “give it up” { being a murdering pedophile } somewhere in that rant.

    Psychology is not a science, so this is just my analysis or opinion.

  54. P. Julius
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    AMISH SCHOOL RECOVERY FUND II

    Another avenue to offer assistante and extend compassion.

    Memorial contributions can be sent to the Nickel Mine School Victims Fund, c/o Hometown Heritage Bank, P.O. Box 337, Strasburg, PA 17579

  55. im1096too
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    I really truly hope that someone puts bullets in their heads. What a worthless bunch of religious nut jobs. If it aint the Muslims, or the JW’s, Its the Phelps klan. All nut cases.

  56. J R
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    I think you are closer to the truth than many know Ed.

  57. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    JR

    I can’t listen to his rant here in Texas, so might you tape it, and maybe we can figure-out a way to get it to me.

    A tape would be better than just a transcript, as I can catch the inflection of his tone, and if there are some good detectives in KCPD, I can help them to question him and find-out where the bodies are buried.

    He’s trying to give it up, he just needs to be questioned properly. He can’t be bullied, but the right line of questioning will bring it all out.

  58. J R
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Ed,

    Here in Wichita, we do not get the Mike Galagher show on radio as far as I know. It may be that I might get it on the radio channels through cable. I will look into it and see if it will be available around here. Will advise.

  59. we320009
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Thank God we have Political Mom with her trailer trash views here.

  60. Posted October 4, 2006 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    im1096too–

    Dude, that’s a death threat. It’s probably illegal.

    I’m all for free speech, except for that–you can’t threaten people.

    If this place had some oversight, they’d pull that post.

    I understand your frustration, and I think the Phelps’ are way, way outta line, but you can’t say you want somebody dead, no matter how much they irritate you.

    Say it about a government official and you’ll find out what I mean . . . as in handcuffs and interrogation.

  61. we320009
    Posted October 4, 2006 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    CapnAmerica, I’d be relieved if you were dead. Is that is threat, or just hope?

  62. Posted October 4, 2006 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    Nah, you wouldn’t.

    You’d miss me jerking your chain.

  63. carol
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    What a MORON……

  64. Jed
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    im,Somebody shoots that sumbitch, and next thing you know, people are building monuments to him and naming their kids Fred. That’s the last thing any of us want! What he deserves is to die in utter obscurity. That we can give him.

  65. Rage
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 2:25 am | Permalink

    Agreed. And with that in mind, here’s what I say about him:

    Who??

    “Withers was already an unperson. He did not exist; he had never existed.

    http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/4/

  66. TRACY
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 5:49 am | Permalink

    AMERICA HELD HOSTAGE:DAY 2083……..

  67. Jeffrey Schueler
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 6:47 am | Permalink

    Actually, all Phelps seeks is media exposure, nothing else. If he received absolutely no attention at all, he would HAVE to fade away, as his purpose in life would be denied. Bartering a funeral protest for an hour of talk radio? Rather revealing, in my opinion.

  68. In Topeka
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Apparently, you can listen to the Mike Gallagher radio talk show through this website. I can’t listen to their sick twisted lies…but if anyone else would like to here it is.

    http://www.mikeonline.com

    God Bless you all!!

  69. im1096too
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Screw Capt. America. Maybe someone one should do it to you and Phelps.Hows that.

  70. B Blyth
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Capt. Jerkoff, that wasn’t a threat.There is a big difference in the following word…Could, Would, Should and Will. Stay in school and you to can carry on an intelligent conversation.

  71. Posted October 5, 2006 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Name the time and place.

  72. Posted October 5, 2006 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    B Blyth and numbers with some random letter troll?

    Are you there? Is anybody there?

    Oh, wait, let me speak YOUR language:

    bwack buc buc bWAAK bWAAK

    That’s chickenshit.

    You should understand that . . .

  73. B Blyth
    Posted October 5, 2006 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Hey Captain, does your old lady still ***** like she used to?Have a nice day.

  74. Posted October 5, 2006 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Yes, but she told me you could never get it up.

    Time and place, asshole, time and place.

    I’m waiting.

  75. WRS
    Posted October 6, 2006 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    May I suggest everyone send at least one package of grape Kool-Aid to the Westmore psychiatric center.

    Maybe they will take the hint.

  76. Rage
    Posted October 6, 2006 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    TROLL ALERT, if it wasn’t 100%obvious.

    CapnAmerica is registered to typepad. Mr. “Everyone must die” is someone else. And “B Blyth” is also interesting, as someone with a Bill Blyth address sent a nasty email to Julie many months ago.

    I’ll contact the admin.

    I’d suggest you don’t let your “fans” get to you, Cap. It only encourages them, and I don’t think anyone else here–left,right, whatever–gives a shit what they think.

    As a cautionary reminder to all, if something is posted that doesn’t seem like the person in question–it probably ain’t.

  77. Rage
    Posted October 6, 2006 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    P.S. Let’s not go too far down the ‘cloak-and-dagger’ road either. This is only a blog.

  78. Rage
    Posted October 6, 2006 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Well, that was fast. Thank you, Eagle admin.

  79. Posted October 6, 2006 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for whatever it is you did, Rage.

    It was on and off before I even saw it.

    I think we need mods that can pull posts.

    I nominate JR.

    If it’s too over the top, it just isn’t there any more.

    Let me be the first one to say that some of my posts should have pulled in the past.

    Would have saved me a lot of grief . . .

  80. TRACY
    Posted October 6, 2006 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    bubba blythe–IT AIN’T FUNNY.