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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83818</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,

Are you saying that no bad politicians have held office, voted in by a majority?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>Are you saying that no bad politicians have held office, voted in by a majority?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83817</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ken, I suppose if Tiahrt is as bad as you believe, you have nothing to worry about come election time because he will be voted out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well ken, I suppose if Tiahrt is as bad as you believe, you have nothing to worry about come election time because he will be voted out.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83816</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank

You feeble minded whacko,  twist and turn everything around and it only helps to support the anti - Tiahrt sentiment in the blogs and the streets --- crawl out of your hole in Goddard and TT&#039;s ass and you will find his grip continues to slip -- TT is weak on military support,  simple health care reform and issues,  the blue collar working man that he purports to supposrt.  In an earlier post you said GM didn&#039;t have union support and now you imply that he does -- you sound like TT ---- flip - flop (ring a bell) what happened to his support of term limits ?

He voted  four times against any congressional investigation into the fraud waste and abuse of Iraqi contracts -- yet he recently testified&quot;&#8220;Time and again, we see Congressionally authorized programs become institutionalized, ultimately becoming permanent fixtures with little justification behind their continued existence,&#8221; said Tiahrt. &#8220;This wastes taxpayer money and ties up precious Federal resources that could be used toward paying down the national debt or funding higher Congressional priorities.&#8221;

... and you voted for this betrayal of trust ------- shame

What is that sound I hear from him and now you -- &quot;FLIP FLOP&quot;

GM will work for all his constituents (including the pathetic ones like you) not just the ones that finance his campaigns and trips to Hawaii -- maybe TT can get you a job at Boeing and give you something to do with your time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank</p>
<p>You feeble minded whacko,  twist and turn everything around and it only helps to support the anti &#8211; Tiahrt sentiment in the blogs and the streets &#8212; crawl out of your hole in Goddard and TT&#8217;s ass and you will find his grip continues to slip &#8212; TT is weak on military support,  simple health care reform and issues,  the blue collar working man that he purports to supposrt.  In an earlier post you said GM didn&#8217;t have union support and now you imply that he does &#8212; you sound like TT &#8212;- flip &#8211; flop (ring a bell) what happened to his support of term limits ?</p>
<p>He voted  four times against any congressional investigation into the fraud waste and abuse of Iraqi contracts &#8212; yet he recently testified&#8221;&ldquo;Time and again, we see Congressionally authorized programs become institutionalized, ultimately becoming permanent fixtures with little justification behind their continued existence,&rdquo; said Tiahrt. &ldquo;This wastes taxpayer money and ties up precious Federal resources that could be used toward paying down the national debt or funding higher Congressional priorities.&rdquo;</p>
<p>&#8230; and you voted for this betrayal of trust &#8212;&#8212;- shame</p>
<p>What is that sound I hear from him and now you &#8212; &#8220;FLIP FLOP&#8221;</p>
<p>GM will work for all his constituents (including the pathetic ones like you) not just the ones that finance his campaigns and trips to Hawaii &#8212; maybe TT can get you a job at Boeing and give you something to do with your time.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83815</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garth McGinn will work for all his constituents. Tiarht only works for Hank.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garth McGinn will work for all his constituents. Tiarht only works for Hank.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83814</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank,

Thanks for the post on Garth McGinn.  Now I have several reasons for casting my vote for him...and I didn&#039;t even have to visit his website.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank,</p>
<p>Thanks for the post on Garth McGinn.  Now I have several reasons for casting my vote for him&#8230;and I didn&#8217;t even have to visit his website.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Price</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83813</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear JR,

You are a nut.  Nothing illstrates that fact better than your last two posts.

I&#039;m too polite to call you a nut to your face.  Both times we met it was at a social function (arranged by me I believe).  That is not the place to call someoe a nut to their face.  My offer to take you to lunch still stands though.

I love ya JR, in spite of the fact that you are a nut.  Every BLOG needs some one like you for comic relief.  You make me chuckle with your posts.  I apologize if I have upset you.

Hank
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear JR,</p>
<p>You are a nut.  Nothing illstrates that fact better than your last two posts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m too polite to call you a nut to your face.  Both times we met it was at a social function (arranged by me I believe).  That is not the place to call someoe a nut to their face.  My offer to take you to lunch still stands though.</p>
<p>I love ya JR, in spite of the fact that you are a nut.  Every BLOG needs some one like you for comic relief.  You make me chuckle with your posts.  I apologize if I have upset you.</p>
<p>Hank</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Price</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83812</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey ken,

You are starting to crack me up!  National Association of Women?  National Association of University Women?  If you really want to convince me why don&#039;t you look up and see how he scores with the comunist party.

Or maybe we can talk about the great liberal hope.  Garth supports minimum wage increases.  Butt boy for the uninons.  Garth supports a pull out of Iraq.  Butt boy for Al Quida.  He has no position on abortion other than to keep it legal.  Butt boy for Teller.

Garth has no rational position on foriegn policy, immigration, energy, environment or a list of so called &#039;liberal rights&#039;.

Garth has no support.  He has no money.  He has no chance.

Hank
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey ken,</p>
<p>You are starting to crack me up!  National Association of Women?  National Association of University Women?  If you really want to convince me why don&#8217;t you look up and see how he scores with the comunist party.</p>
<p>Or maybe we can talk about the great liberal hope.  Garth supports minimum wage increases.  Butt boy for the uninons.  Garth supports a pull out of Iraq.  Butt boy for Al Quida.  He has no position on abortion other than to keep it legal.  Butt boy for Teller.</p>
<p>Garth has no rational position on foriegn policy, immigration, energy, environment or a list of so called &#8216;liberal rights&#8217;.</p>
<p>Garth has no support.  He has no money.  He has no chance.</p>
<p>Hank</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83811</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,

I doubt you&#039;re a Real Time with Bill Maher viewer, but last night Barney Frank commented that in Massachusettes, the uproar over legality in that state of same sex marriages is rarely heard now.  People have found that it doesn&#039;t diminish their marriages or affect them in any way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,</p>
<p>I doubt you&#8217;re a Real Time with Bill Maher viewer, but last night Barney Frank commented that in Massachusettes, the uproar over legality in that state of same sex marriages is rarely heard now.  People have found that it doesn&#8217;t diminish their marriages or affect them in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83810</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ian.  I used to have a few links, but when I reformatted my hard drive a couple of weeks ago, I missed saving my Favorites.  I&#039;m still beating my head against the wall for that.  I had hundreds of sites bookmarked for various reasons.

I was just curious what you might have heard.  I haven&#039;t decided if I believe there are detention centers waiting to be filled.  All I know is that it could be true.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ian.  I used to have a few links, but when I reformatted my hard drive a couple of weeks ago, I missed saving my Favorites.  I&#8217;m still beating my head against the wall for that.  I had hundreds of sites bookmarked for various reasons.</p>
<p>I was just curious what you might have heard.  I haven&#8217;t decided if I believe there are detention centers waiting to be filled.  All I know is that it could be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Santiago</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83809</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RD,

I have been hearing alot of chatter and it is sometimes hard to seperate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Try typing &quot;rex-84&quot; + &quot;fema&quot; into your search engine and you will get plenty of hits.

V.L.R.B!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RD,</p>
<p>I have been hearing alot of chatter and it is sometimes hard to seperate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Try typing &#8220;rex-84&#8243; + &#8220;fema&#8221; into your search engine and you will get plenty of hits.</p>
<p>V.L.R.B!!</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83808</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for Farmgrl

Lack of a marriage license may cost tens of thousands of dollars—and the loss of a home—when a partner dies.

In more than one in 10 same-sex couples, one partner is 65 years old or older. Census 2000 shows us that 97 percent of U.S. counties have a senior in a same-sex partnership. The greatest numbers of same-sex senior couples live in California, New York, and Florida. Illinois and Arizona also have significant numbers. Prevalence aside, the aging of the gay, lesbian, and bisexual community is not particularly golden for many. These couples cannot be recognized as legally married, so a surviving partner loses financial ground. Survivors are denied the Social Security benefits that married couples get, face heavy taxes on any retirement plan, and get charged an estate tax if they inherit a home, even if it was jointly owned.

Same-sex senior couples are more likely to still be making mortgage payments when one dies. Combined with other financial losses, this higher debt burden puts surviving partners at greater risk of losing their home. Even before a partner&#039;s death, these seniors risk losing their home when an elderly partner enters a nursing home. Federal Medicaid law permits a married spouse to remain in the couple&#039;s home, but not an unmarried partner.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urban.org/toolkit/issues/gayresearchfocus.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.urban.org/toolkit/issues/gayresearchfocus.cfm&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for Farmgrl</p>
<p>Lack of a marriage license may cost tens of thousands of dollars—and the loss of a home—when a partner dies.</p>
<p>In more than one in 10 same-sex couples, one partner is 65 years old or older. Census 2000 shows us that 97 percent of U.S. counties have a senior in a same-sex partnership. The greatest numbers of same-sex senior couples live in California, New York, and Florida. Illinois and Arizona also have significant numbers. Prevalence aside, the aging of the gay, lesbian, and bisexual community is not particularly golden for many. These couples cannot be recognized as legally married, so a surviving partner loses financial ground. Survivors are denied the Social Security benefits that married couples get, face heavy taxes on any retirement plan, and get charged an estate tax if they inherit a home, even if it was jointly owned.</p>
<p>Same-sex senior couples are more likely to still be making mortgage payments when one dies. Combined with other financial losses, this higher debt burden puts surviving partners at greater risk of losing their home. Even before a partner&#8217;s death, these seniors risk losing their home when an elderly partner enters a nursing home. Federal Medicaid law permits a married spouse to remain in the couple&#8217;s home, but not an unmarried partner.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.urban.org/toolkit/issues/gayresearchfocus.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.urban.org/toolkit/issues/gayresearchfocus.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83807</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeLay is guilty of violating Texas laws that say candidates cannot accept contributions from corporations, He tried to circumvent the law by money laundering, so they nailed him for that too --- but I&#039;m sure you knew that and are in denial --- TT  was part of that scheme -- he may have served you well (you must cut his hair or something) and now your lips are forever connected to his ass -- no wonder you can&#039;t see the hypocrisy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeLay is guilty of violating Texas laws that say candidates cannot accept contributions from corporations, He tried to circumvent the law by money laundering, so they nailed him for that too &#8212; but I&#8217;m sure you knew that and are in denial &#8212; TT  was part of that scheme &#8212; he may have served you well (you must cut his hair or something) and now your lips are forever connected to his ass &#8212; no wonder you can&#8217;t see the hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83806</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank

You are not for real --- you could not possibly agree with his voteson military issues -- if you do you should realize that  he has in essence raped your brother veterans by his two faced stance on miitary voted and legislation and you supprot that -- as others have said here -- you are a joke -- and even you don&#039;t get it.

You throw the term liberal around as if you have a clue to what most of the people in here really are -- logical independent thinkers who can see the facts and make intelligent rational judgements based on them -- I support McGINN because he is not TT and the best alternative to the neocon christian far right  conservatives who have been duped by this administration and the  lackey corrupt republican Congress. TT has somehow bought you off --- or you&#039;re afraid to face the facts that he has let most of his constituents down and betrayed their trust and confidence.  ...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank</p>
<p>You are not for real &#8212; you could not possibly agree with his voteson military issues &#8212; if you do you should realize that  he has in essence raped your brother veterans by his two faced stance on miitary voted and legislation and you supprot that &#8212; as others have said here &#8212; you are a joke &#8212; and even you don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>You throw the term liberal around as if you have a clue to what most of the people in here really are &#8212; logical independent thinkers who can see the facts and make intelligent rational judgements based on them &#8212; I support McGINN because he is not TT and the best alternative to the neocon christian far right  conservatives who have been duped by this administration and the  lackey corrupt republican Congress. TT has somehow bought you off &#8212; or you&#8217;re afraid to face the facts that he has let most of his constituents down and betrayed their trust and confidence.  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83805</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.army.mil/references/FY04ArmyProfile.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.army.mil/references/FY04ArmyProfile.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.army.mil/references/FY04ArmyProfile.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.army.mil/references/FY04ArmyProfile.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83804</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a vacation in sunny Iraq!I hear it&#039;s to DIE for!

:)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a vacation in sunny Iraq!I hear it&#8217;s to DIE for!</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83803</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hank?

&quot;You really are a nut.&quot;

Well Hank you had the opportunity on two occasions to tell me that to my face.But you Hank are not much for face to face honesty are you? You have posted lies on me on this forum. You Hank, have attacked me, my son, and my mother with your lies. I have never done the like to you. You referece me in posts where I have not even weighed in. And frankly I am just a bit sick of it.

I know your situation hank. I am too much of a gentleman to out you for the fraud you really are.

Personal story here. My son and I met Mr Hank Price. My son is aware of my battles here. His take was the Hank he met could not possibly be the Hank that posts here.

&quot;I think it is great that Chuck Knapp recommended your relocate&quot; Yeah Hank? And just where would your sort like to see me relocated?

It does not surprise me Hank to learn that Todd Tiahrt serves you well. He is the same sort of lying,posing despicable syncophant that you are.

You have Tiahrts ear? Then tell him to get back here and address his opponent and his constituents.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hank?</p>
<p>&#8220;You really are a nut.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well Hank you had the opportunity on two occasions to tell me that to my face.But you Hank are not much for face to face honesty are you? You have posted lies on me on this forum. You Hank, have attacked me, my son, and my mother with your lies. I have never done the like to you. You referece me in posts where I have not even weighed in. And frankly I am just a bit sick of it.</p>
<p>I know your situation hank. I am too much of a gentleman to out you for the fraud you really are.</p>
<p>Personal story here. My son and I met Mr Hank Price. My son is aware of my battles here. His take was the Hank he met could not possibly be the Hank that posts here.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it is great that Chuck Knapp recommended your relocate&#8221; Yeah Hank? And just where would your sort like to see me relocated?</p>
<p>It does not surprise me Hank to learn that Todd Tiahrt serves you well. He is the same sort of lying,posing despicable syncophant that you are.</p>
<p>You have Tiahrts ear? Then tell him to get back here and address his opponent and his constituents.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83802</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraq War.

The rich man&#039;s war,The poor man&#039;s fight.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq War.</p>
<p>The rich man&#8217;s war,The poor man&#8217;s fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83801</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The war on terror is being fought by approximately 0.5 percent of the population—an active duty force of less than 1.5 million out of a total population of approximately 290 million. Meanwhile, the other 99.5 percent shop, gripe about the price of gas, and tune into Desperate Housewives. The problem of the moment is that those among the 99.5 percent to whom the Pentagon has looked to replenish the 0.5 percent are increasingly declining the opportunity to do so.

Commentators have sought to describe this in political terms. After all, most minorities and the working poor have no particular affinity for Bush or his party. A conservative Republican proclaiming himself the champion of freedom for all humankind might evoke from African Americans a certain skepticism. The administration&#039;s insistence that oil had nothing to do with a Texas oilman&#039;s decision to invade Iraq might strike those stuck on the lower rungs of the economic ladder as less than credible.

But this insistence on seeing things in partisan terms overlooks a more obvious explanation rooted in concerns about fairness and equity. Maybe when it comes to serving the country, minorities and working-class Americans have simply grown weary of carrying more than their fair share of the load. Could it be that the Iraq War bears at least some of the earmarks of being a rich man&#039;s war and a poor man&#039;s fight, conceived by well-heeled Washington insiders but fought by those least likely to reap the promised benefits of the American way of life?

President Bush has repeatedly portrayed the present conflict as a sequel to the momentous struggles of the past century. Indeed, in his address to the nation on June 28, the president essentially endorsed Osama bin Laden&#039;s description of the current struggle as tantamount to a third world war. But if the war on terror—or, if you prefer, the campaign to democratize the Islamic world—is indeed of such vital importance, then the burden of fulfilling that mission ought to fall across the full spectrum of American society.

The problems besetting the AVF suggest that the days of undemocratically conceived and undemocratically implemented national-security policies may be numbered. If he continues on his present course, Bush will run out of soldiers long before he runs out of wars.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/article.php?id_article=1312&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/article.php?id_article=1312&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The war on terror is being fought by approximately 0.5 percent of the population—an active duty force of less than 1.5 million out of a total population of approximately 290 million. Meanwhile, the other 99.5 percent shop, gripe about the price of gas, and tune into Desperate Housewives. The problem of the moment is that those among the 99.5 percent to whom the Pentagon has looked to replenish the 0.5 percent are increasingly declining the opportunity to do so.</p>
<p>Commentators have sought to describe this in political terms. After all, most minorities and the working poor have no particular affinity for Bush or his party. A conservative Republican proclaiming himself the champion of freedom for all humankind might evoke from African Americans a certain skepticism. The administration&#8217;s insistence that oil had nothing to do with a Texas oilman&#8217;s decision to invade Iraq might strike those stuck on the lower rungs of the economic ladder as less than credible.</p>
<p>But this insistence on seeing things in partisan terms overlooks a more obvious explanation rooted in concerns about fairness and equity. Maybe when it comes to serving the country, minorities and working-class Americans have simply grown weary of carrying more than their fair share of the load. Could it be that the Iraq War bears at least some of the earmarks of being a rich man&#8217;s war and a poor man&#8217;s fight, conceived by well-heeled Washington insiders but fought by those least likely to reap the promised benefits of the American way of life?</p>
<p>President Bush has repeatedly portrayed the present conflict as a sequel to the momentous struggles of the past century. Indeed, in his address to the nation on June 28, the president essentially endorsed Osama bin Laden&#8217;s description of the current struggle as tantamount to a third world war. But if the war on terror—or, if you prefer, the campaign to democratize the Islamic world—is indeed of such vital importance, then the burden of fulfilling that mission ought to fall across the full spectrum of American society.</p>
<p>The problems besetting the AVF suggest that the days of undemocratically conceived and undemocratically implemented national-security policies may be numbered. If he continues on his present course, Bush will run out of soldiers long before he runs out of wars.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/article.php?id_article=1312" rel="nofollow">http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/article.php?id_article=1312</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hank Price</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83800</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR, you really are a nut!  I think its great that Chuck Knapp recommeded that you relocate!

Heartlander, don&#039;t get down on every one of these organizations for not demanding a debate, every one knows that poor ol&#039; Garth diesn&#039;t have a chance.  Garth is not a serious candidate.  The DNC, the union leadership, and the state democrats are basically ignoring the race between Tiahrt and Garth.  Game over.  Get over it.

Steven, Even though you made your position and politics clear in your letters to Tiahrt, I&#039;m sure they were serious and respectful in their tone.  Unlike anything JR was likely to compose!  By the way, I finished the book.  We need to do lunch and talk sometime!Ken, I am familiar with most of Tiahrt&#039;s votes.  Again, I support 80 - 90% of them.  If I was a single issue candidate I could nit pik and find something to whine about in most of his votes.  I am a veteran.  I&#039;ve written him on veteran issues in the past.  I haven&#039;t always been happy with him.  I&#039;ve read McGinn&#039;s website.  He is a liberal nit wit pandering to the left leaning democrats.  I disaggree with his positions, his politics and the issues he thinks are most important.  Doesn&#039;t matter though, he&#039;s toast.

Mrage, and Delay is guilty of what?

Hank
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR, you really are a nut!  I think its great that Chuck Knapp recommeded that you relocate!</p>
<p>Heartlander, don&#8217;t get down on every one of these organizations for not demanding a debate, every one knows that poor ol&#8217; Garth diesn&#8217;t have a chance.  Garth is not a serious candidate.  The DNC, the union leadership, and the state democrats are basically ignoring the race between Tiahrt and Garth.  Game over.  Get over it.</p>
<p>Steven, Even though you made your position and politics clear in your letters to Tiahrt, I&#8217;m sure they were serious and respectful in their tone.  Unlike anything JR was likely to compose!  By the way, I finished the book.  We need to do lunch and talk sometime!Ken, I am familiar with most of Tiahrt&#8217;s votes.  Again, I support 80 &#8211; 90% of them.  If I was a single issue candidate I could nit pik and find something to whine about in most of his votes.  I am a veteran.  I&#8217;ve written him on veteran issues in the past.  I haven&#8217;t always been happy with him.  I&#8217;ve read McGinn&#8217;s website.  He is a liberal nit wit pandering to the left leaning democrats.  I disaggree with his positions, his politics and the issues he thinks are most important.  Doesn&#8217;t matter though, he&#8217;s toast.</p>
<p>Mrage, and Delay is guilty of what?</p>
<p>Hank</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83799</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

I trust your account of your experience with Tiahrt. Please trust mine as posted above.I have searched and not found the ONE semi personal email I got from Tiahrt flunky Chuck Knapp. I guess I tossed it out. It was a mean spirted thing. Knapp essentially told me mine was not a valued opinion in Kansas and that I might be advised to move.

Well I can&#039;t move for now.If I could or when I can? Right now, no place in America looks inviting. The accumulation of power to the Executive branch makes no place safe from neocon corporo-fascism. I can only hope that changes. But if it doesn&#039;t, Canada looks good. That or a return of my pre-revolution family line to Germany. Or perhaps relocation to Africa or some other place where democracy is young (or not yet born) and growing instead of old and dying.
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<p>I trust your account of your experience with Tiahrt. Please trust mine as posted above.I have searched and not found the ONE semi personal email I got from Tiahrt flunky Chuck Knapp. I guess I tossed it out. It was a mean spirted thing. Knapp essentially told me mine was not a valued opinion in Kansas and that I might be advised to move.</p>
<p>Well I can&#8217;t move for now.If I could or when I can? Right now, no place in America looks inviting. The accumulation of power to the Executive branch makes no place safe from neocon corporo-fascism. I can only hope that changes. But if it doesn&#8217;t, Canada looks good. That or a return of my pre-revolution family line to Germany. Or perhaps relocation to Africa or some other place where democracy is young (or not yet born) and growing instead of old and dying.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83798</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

Just out of curiosity, what do you have on detention camps in the U.S.?
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<p>Just out of curiosity, what do you have on detention camps in the U.S.?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Santiago</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83797</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Achtung, Achtung,

It seems that &quot;our&quot; government is planning something and shrub won&#039;t let that pesky posse comitatus nonsense get in his way.:)

You lefty dems better not riot in November after the bush bolsheviks steal the election!

U.S. Army North up and running

Staff report

U.S. Army North, the Army&#039;s newest service component command reached full operational capability Monday, which means that it is fully manned, equipped and ready to assume its mission.

As part of Army transformation, USARNORTH was formed to become the dedicated Army service component command to Northern Command, the unified command responsible for defending the homeland and coordinating defense support of civil authorities.

Located at Fort Sam Houston, Texas, USARNORTH achieved initial operating capability in September 2005, and is responsible for specific missions, including:

&#8226; Execute homeland defense and defense support of civil authorities missions.

&#8226; Provide training and readiness oversight of certified weapons of mass destruction—civil support teams.

&#8226; Conduct the Army-to-Army portion of the theater cooperation mission with Canada and Mexico.

&#8226; Coordinate the activities of defense coordinating officers and their elements assigned in each Federal Emergency Management Agency region.

&#8226; Organize up to two task forces that, with augmentation, can become joint task forces and deploy within the operational area to command and control Department of Defense forces responding to homeland defense or civil support operations.

For the past 12 months, USARNORTH has been building its organization, readiness and mission capability. USARNORTH officially assumed the Army component command duties from Forces Command on Oct. 1.&lt;a href=&quot;http://armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2274936.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2274936.php&lt;/a&gt;

Viva La Raza Blanco!!!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Achtung, Achtung,</p>
<p>It seems that &#8220;our&#8221; government is planning something and shrub won&#8217;t let that pesky posse comitatus nonsense get in his way.:)</p>
<p>You lefty dems better not riot in November after the bush bolsheviks steal the election!</p>
<p>U.S. Army North up and running</p>
<p>Staff report</p>
<p>U.S. Army North, the Army&#8217;s newest service component command reached full operational capability Monday, which means that it is fully manned, equipped and ready to assume its mission.</p>
<p>As part of Army transformation, USARNORTH was formed to become the dedicated Army service component command to Northern Command, the unified command responsible for defending the homeland and coordinating defense support of civil authorities.</p>
<p>Located at Fort Sam Houston, Texas, USARNORTH achieved initial operating capability in September 2005, and is responsible for specific missions, including:</p>
<p>&bull; Execute homeland defense and defense support of civil authorities missions.</p>
<p>&bull; Provide training and readiness oversight of certified weapons of mass destruction—civil support teams.</p>
<p>&bull; Conduct the Army-to-Army portion of the theater cooperation mission with Canada and Mexico.</p>
<p>&bull; Coordinate the activities of defense coordinating officers and their elements assigned in each Federal Emergency Management Agency region.</p>
<p>&bull; Organize up to two task forces that, with augmentation, can become joint task forces and deploy within the operational area to command and control Department of Defense forces responding to homeland defense or civil support operations.</p>
<p>For the past 12 months, USARNORTH has been building its organization, readiness and mission capability. USARNORTH officially assumed the Army component command duties from Forces Command on Oct. 1.<a href="http://armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2274936.php" rel="nofollow">http://armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2274936.php</a></p>
<p>Viva La Raza Blanco!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83796</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Watch, if you aren&#039;t afraid of the light.&quot;

Outlander,You&#039;re such a joker... :-)
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<p>Outlander,You&#8217;re such a joker&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83795</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

If you were going to go to another state, where would you go?  Like CF I like Washington state.  But so do a lot of other people as I found out.

I applied for a job in Olympia, Washington, that I thought was really less of a job than what I wanted in terms of responsibility and salary.  In Kansas people would have been grateful if you applied for such a job.  I think I finshed 3rd in their ranking.  A lot of people like me from all over the country want to move there.  It&#039;s very competitive is what I concluded.  They called me about a second job they had in Olympia, but I did not try for it.

Any way I was wondering what state you thought would work better for you.  You can answer back channel if you&#039;d prefer.
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<p>If you were going to go to another state, where would you go?  Like CF I like Washington state.  But so do a lot of other people as I found out.</p>
<p>I applied for a job in Olympia, Washington, that I thought was really less of a job than what I wanted in terms of responsibility and salary.  In Kansas people would have been grateful if you applied for such a job.  I think I finshed 3rd in their ranking.  A lot of people like me from all over the country want to move there.  It&#8217;s very competitive is what I concluded.  They called me about a second job they had in Olympia, but I did not try for it.</p>
<p>Any way I was wondering what state you thought would work better for you.  You can answer back channel if you&#8217;d prefer.</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/open_thread_16-3/#comment-83794</link>
		<dc:creator>outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/10/another_great_intelligent_desi.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/10/another_great_intelligent_desi.html&lt;/a&gt;

Another Great Intelligent Design Debate On TVThis week on Think Tank (PBS): Intelligent Design vs. Evolution- Part two.

PBS doesn&#039;t seem to think ID unworthy of discussion. I missed part one, but part two will air at 7:00 pm Sunday on KPTS here in Wichita. Watch, if you aren&#039;t afraid of the light.
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<p>Another Great Intelligent Design Debate On TVThis week on Think Tank (PBS): Intelligent Design vs. Evolution- Part two.</p>
<p>PBS doesn&#8217;t seem to think ID unworthy of discussion. I missed part one, but part two will air at 7:00 pm Sunday on KPTS here in Wichita. Watch, if you aren&#8217;t afraid of the light.</p>
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