Morrison ad goes over the top

It’s legitimate to question the judgment of an attorney general who hires people with criminal records. But Paul Morrison, the Democratic candidate for attorney general, overdid it with his television ad about Kline’s hiring of Bryan Brown to be the office’s consumer protection chief. The ad’s mug shot and portentous text would lead many voters to conclude that Brown’s 12 arrests were for violent felonies. In fact, they were for misdemeanors related to anti-abortion protests. We’d still argue that Brown was a poor choice, especially because he failed to pay a related $61,000 court judgment in Indiana. But Morrison’s ad went too far, in the process weakening a valid criticism of Kline’s record.
Posted by Rhonda Holman

95 Comments

  1. Dingus
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    They both been doing it. Its a nasty campaign pretty soon they both be calling each child molesters.

  2. Mrage
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    That’s nothing but advertising. Who cares!

    Do Kansans actually know who Bryan Brown was. I bet not! He got “famous” because Kline said his protesting abortions was like Rosa Park’s civil disobedient act in an asinine speech.

    Bryan Brown we shouldn’t know and Kline should get his butt kicked out of office. For giving a very dumb speech and mixing religion in his politics, wanting to talk behind pulpits.

  3. Posted October 19, 2006 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    From Free State Media:

    Morrison’s Sex Harrassment Suit: Fair Gamehttp://www.freestatemedia.org/news/latest-headlines/morrisons-sex-harrassment-suit–fair-game.html

    Paul Settled Out of Courthttp://www.freestatemedia.org/news/latest-headlines/paul-settled-out-of-court.html

    “Catholic” Paul Morrison TV ads picturing Bryan Brown as “arrested 12 times” is outrageous. The ad intentionally leads the public to wonder whether Bryan was arrested for producing meth or beating up someone that is disabled. Or both.

    The truth is that highly respected Catholic attorney Bryan Brown was arrested for peaceful abortion protests. When Kline said Bryan’s peaceful protests were in the admirable tradition of Rosa Parks, he was mocked.

    Bryan (or anyone else) could not have been accepted to become an attorney with a criminal record.

    As owner of a public relations firm, Morrison’s wife Joyce knew how to orchestrate her “injured spouse” rebuttal, including the lie that the judge dismissed the case because the sexual harassment “charges were unfounded”. Why doesn’t “Catholic” Joyce stop the wounding of Bryan’s family with the repeated airing of that despicable commercial?

    Once again, the media, specifically the Kansas City Star, bought Morrison’s line that the case was thrown out by a judge. The Court rejected Morrison’s Motion for Dismissal and Summary Judgment because the Court found facts in controversy. A few months later both parties moved for dismissal pursuant to an out of court settlement. The case was never found to be without merit.

    Documents demonstrating this were provided to media outlets but ignored. Instead they relied on Morrison’s word and he distorted what happened.

  4. Rage
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Congrats, KS Ostrich, for removing your last trace of credibility.

    “The case was never found to be without merit.”

    Morrison did not admit to saying “I’m attracted to you,” but instead “you look attractive.” Bingo! Facts in controversy, signifying nothing.

    Not in controversy: AG gets drunk at an after-work celebration, after a very stressful murder trial (the Richard Grissom case) makes a questionable comment, apologies the next day. Even if there was a out-of-court settlement–something your sleazy source implies, but has not even given the slightest whiff of proof–that’s not exactly the crime of the century.

    About Brown: I don’t know anyone who’s been arrested twelve times for anything (not a good sign!), but I would more interested in how those charges were disposed. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

  5. Rage
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 2:51 am | Permalink

    P.S. Yes, I read the rest of her deposition. Assuming the worst (HER side of the story): AG gets drunk, makes an ill-advised pass, IMMEDIATELY backs off (her version), and apologizes the next day (her version).

  6. Jed
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 4:53 am | Permalink

    And now Kline is telling us that Morrisson is soft on child molesters because of the medical records issue. Somehow he fails to mention that his original subpoena didn’t involve minors at all, and the issue has never been about child molesters, it’s been about a fishing expedition through abortion records of as many women as he could, with the prospect that they would find their way into the hands of the anti-abortion radicals connected to his office to be used to intimidate women seeking abortion services.

  7. kansassam
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 5:45 am | Permalink

    At this point, I can’t bring myself to vote for either one… in fact looking at all the races in Kansas this year.. it’s going to be tough to control the gag reflex… they had better place barf bags in the voting booths….

    ksfarmgrrl…why don’t you give us a “voter’s guide” to who has the best.. or even any.. water policy, and I’ll vote for them!!

    In the meantime.. flush twice… Russell needs the water! ;)

  8. kelly
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    Bryan Brown was not hired to run Kansans for Life. He was hired to be in charge of a department in the Kansas Attorney General’s office – the office that is in charge of enforcing THE LAW OF THIS STATE. Kline should never have hired someone who has refused to pay legitimate court fines – even if Kline didn’t care about the dozen misdemeanor criminal charges. Refusing to pay court fines reflects a profound disrespect for the rule of law, and a disregard of his legal obligations as an officer of the court. Anyone in charge of an entire department within the AG’s office should be the best example of a law-abiding citizen.

  9. TRACY
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 6:43 am | Permalink

    Refusing to obey ANY law should have been a disqualifying factor.Kline’s insistance that this is proper is just one more straw…..Republican hubris.IOKIYAR

  10. TRACY
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 6:46 am | Permalink

    What happens when wingers decide the bible has given them the moral authority to bash gays?Should they be lauded and promoted for being upstanding christian citizens?Republican logic.

  11. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    This guy getting arrested at abortion protests IS equivilant to getting arrested at civil rights marches. The abortion people see this as civil rights for the unborn. You won’t catch me at either one, but I like their moxie. You should too.

  12. Posted October 19, 2006 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    As I have Dish network, I haven’t seen a single Kansas political ad this year. In fact, I don’t even know who’s running for what. I’ll just vote straight democratic, like I always do. Saves a lot of stress.

  13. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    I’m with you Door King, except the opposite. If there is something I’m sure about, I vote the opposite of what the Eagle recommends.

  14. Steven Davis
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    Meadowlurk thinks the media is the evil opponent in this race.

    Wait, that reminds me of someone else’s strategy. You know, Kline acting like he is running against Tiller, because he can’t stand up to a real lawyer.

    For some extra laughs check out Castillo’s (aka “values boy”) column today. He’s got the religious right resurrecting before they even pass away…

  15. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    I’d like to see Morrison back off the negative and focus on what he has done as DA and will do as AG. In particular, it would be good to rebut Kline’s calims against him. If the arrests never went anywhere (prosecution) then their meaning is suspect.

    As for Kline, let Stephen’s comments and others finish him off.

    And as for the BS charge against Morrison, consider this: either in or out of the workplace I notice that a person is attractive. So, I comment to that effect. Is that harassment? I think not. And the adjudication of the claim against Morrison agrees.

  16. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    hee hee hee hee hee

    And is anyone surprised that this was written by RHONDA?

    Is she looking to replace values boy? Could she be more preachy? Did she reach the fainting couch before she landed on the floor?

    heheheheh

    “The ad’s mug shot and portentous text would lead many voters to conclude that Brown’s 12 arrests were for violent felonies. In fact, they were for misdemeanors related to anti-abortion protests.”

    Gosh Rhonda. Shades of Willie Horton? IOKIYAAR? Your bias is waaaayyyyy out in front today.

    Do you hear the sounds of footsteps? Are you so afraid of republicans losing you stoop to THIS?

    Jesus wept. If this is the only criticism of Morrison you can mount, it is lame, lame, lame.

    Are you the one closing comments when the going gets tough for the kansas talibornagainers?

    PUL-EEEEZ! No more bashing of Randy when you are writing stuff like this little snippy hissy spit fit.

    NO WINGNUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Susan Wilkins
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    hee hee

    Ksfarmgrrl wept.

  18. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Excuse my ignorance but what does “IOKIYAR” stand for?

  19. Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    IOKIYAR= It’s OK if you’re a Republican.

    The ads were not “over the top.” They were perfectly justified. The state AG’s office should not hire people who flout the law it claims to enforce.

    The real question is whether The Eagle is going to serve its readers by endorsing Democrats or serve its corporate masters (Koch, Boeing etc) by endorsing Republicans as usual.

    Even the Washington Post is noticing the rebellion of the moderate Kansas Republicans away from the “God, gay and guns” wing-nuts.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/18/AR2006101801679.html

  20. Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    Kline also hired a nephew who couldn’t drive because his license was revoked for a DUI.

    This is supposed to be our paragon of law enforcement in the state.

    Nepotism AND contempt for the law.

    Unbelievable.

  21. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    November is gonna be so.much.fun.

    See you here November 8 Susan.

    I am secretly hoping the kansas toad will win so we can make tiahrt’s life a living HELL for the next two years.

    He’s gonna be BEGGING to sing like a canary about republican crimes.

    He’ll also be whining like a little girl. (sorry to little girls) All his little criminal friends, like tommy delay and mark foley will be gone. Who will play with little todd then? Who will cover his dumb ass with cash?

    Could we possibly hope for a perp walk or frog march when his crimes with bushco are exposed?

    Stay tuned. I’m popping the corn right now!

    November is gonna be so.much.fun.

  22. Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    Hotlick–who the hell are you?

    I mean who did you post as before you took on this reincarnation?

  23. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Eagle will endorse Sebelius and Morrison. Republicans for other offices including Tiahrt. Mostly Republicans for legislature.

  24. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    Hotlick is a coward Capn.

    I guess he thinks we think he’s full o’ crap because of who he is.

    Uh-uh. Because of the stupid stuff he spouts.

    He changes nics more often than the bedwetters change panties.

    Clever or cowardly? You decide….

  25. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Ben- You are right again about the endorsements.Cap’n and farmgirl- I’ve only been posting for less that a week. Always under the same name.I don’t understand why there would be any question. Calling me a coward is just silly. I say bring it.

  26. Todd
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    There are those who think that any viewpoint they don’t agree with can’t possibly be held by more than a few people. That is why they’re accusing you of impostering.

  27. J R
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    ms lick?

    Consider it brung, strapped in a steel toed boot and planted firmly on your ass. (That’s the thing you keep getting handed)

    This is for Rhonda when she comes to…..

    Rhonda dear? Did the Morrison ad lie in any way? Bryan Brown WAS arrested 12 times was he not? It matters little WHY he was arrested. It is telling of his and Klines character in hiring him that Brown willfully flaunted the law on a dozen occasions.

  28. Todd
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    There was no reason for Morrison to do this. He’s going to win.

  29. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    I would call anti-war sit ins to be flaunting the law, but you won’t critisize that. It’s just people doing what they think need to be done. Let them do it. Ant-war or anti abortion. Same diff.

  30. Wichitagirl
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    Why can’t there ever be a campaign without mudslinging? I would be more interested in voting if the candidates didn’t resort to child-like behaviour and bash each other. Positiveness gets my attention more than negativity. Let’s hear what these people are going to do for the community if elected, not what bad things they think the other person did. Grow up candidates!

  31. MLK
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    “Refusing to obey ANY law should have been a disqualifying factor.Kline’s insistance that this is proper is just one more straw…..Republican hubris.IOKIYAR”

    I suppose Martin Luther King, Jr. would be disqualified from holding office, as would anyone who was arrested by Dr. King.

  32. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    So then, according to Todd, if Morrison was losing, the ad would have been fine? Nothing wrong with the ad, no lies, no nothing, jus imappropriate because he is winning?

    Since phill is losing, does that give him license to say or do anything and everything?

    Six impossible things before breakfast….

  33. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    …and yet another brilliant defender of the klinester.

    “anyone who was arrested by Dr. King.”

    Uh, the last I checked, Dr. King never arrested anyone.

    And there is a big difference in getting arrested FOR freedom, and getting arrested for killing freedom of choice.

    Not that you could grasp such a fine distinction….

  34. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    hotlick – I do have to ask – what is the meaning of your nic? If it were hotlips I would think of Hollihan from MASH ;^) Just curious …

    ksfg – I will go along with Todd in that right now Morrison would be better served taking a diferent tack in his ads.

  35. Todd
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    I don’t care if it’s appropriate or not, kfc. It just wasn’t necessary, and it puts him in a bad light. I’m disappointed in the advice he’s being given. That is all. Stop looking for your typically amazing leaps of logic.

  36. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Ben-I’m a guitar player, but it’s a little like calling a bald guy “Curly”. I’m not that great of a guitar player.

  37. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    Ah! NOW it makes sense! Waht kind of music? Band?

  38. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Old Country, Beatles, Blue Grass, Old Pop. I’m a better singer than player. No band, just jam with about a dozen others.

  39. GMC70
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    KFG -

    I thought you, of all people, would understand standing up for principle. It appears, however, that doing so is laudable ONLY if it is a principle you agree with.

    In any case, my thoughts on the Morrison/Kline race. Posted this on another blog, thought it was appropriate here.

    I’ve worked for Paul Morrison in Johnson County, and I prosecute in a Kansas county attorney’s office (though not as big as JoCo). So I think I bring a relevant point of view here.

    One does not need to be a trial attorney to be AG; if Morrison thinks he’ll be regularly trying cases as AG, he’s fooling himself. On the other hand, if he actually does, it is an incredible misuse of his time. An AG makes policy and administers; he doesn’t try cases (unless he’s grandstanding). That’s what staff attorneys are for. Only in the exceptional case (such as an appearance before the SCOTUS) would an AG generally make an appearance. And frankly, Kline’s experience in complex civil litigation is much more what the most of the work of the AG is about, not criminal prosecution. The vast majority of criminal prosecution is handled at the county level by county or district attorneys; i.e., folks like me.

    And before you even go there, yes, any competent attorney appearing before the SC would get tutoring and specialized preparation; you’re a fool if you don’t, and Kline is not a fool. Morrison would have done the same had he been facing orals before the SC.

    (BTW – I’ve had two defendants petition for cert to the SCOTUS; the first time I got a packet from the SC, I about fainted. Once I thought about it, and realized that the chance they would accept cert was practically nil – and they didn’t – it was back to usual. But for a moment there; I had visions of going to DC, and the thought scared the #%$@ out of me. Oh well, maybe someday . . . )

    I like Paul, I always thought he’d make a good AG. But much of his criticism of Kline is unfair. You may disagree with much of what Kline has done as AG, and much of that criticism is valid. You may have policy differences. But Kline has certainly been competent in the job. Morrison would be as well.

    Bottom line: there are valid reasons to vote for either one. But needing an “experienced criminal trial prosecutor” is not a particularly important one. Personally, I’ve got issues with Morrison’s opportunistic jump across the aisle.

  40. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    Wichita girl-Negative ads work. For either side. Politics can get nasty. Stop crying.

  41. TRACY
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    hotlick, do yourself a favor.Whatever Neil Young says about politics, you say ditto.And quit whining about whiners.

  42. turner
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Morrison also had a misleading ad showing an x-ray of someone’s leg. Implying that Kline is looking at everyone’s medical records. Oh no, I don’t want Kline looking at my x-ray of when I broke my leg. Oh no, oh no. Shut up Morrison!

  43. Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Hotlick is so typical of his generation.

    Selling out the dreams of the muscians that he plays so he can get a “tax break.”

    CHICAGO Lyrics to “Dialogue” 1972

    PeterWhat is this power youspeak of and this need for things tochange? I always thoughtthat everything was fine

    TerryDon’t you feel repression justclosing in around?

    PeterNo, the campus here is very, very free

    TerryDoes it make you angrythe way war is dragging on?

    PeterWell, I hope the Presidentknows what he’s into, I don’t know

    TerryDon’t you ever see the starvationin the city where you live, all theneedless hunger all theneedless pain?

    PeterI haven’t been there lately,the country is so fine, but myneighbors don’t seem hungry ’causethey haven’t got the time

    TerryThank you for the talk,you know you really eased my mindI was troubled by the shapesof things to come.

    PeterWell, if you had myoutlook your feelings would benumb, you’d always thinkthat everything was fine

    Top of Page

    5) Dialogue (Part II) – Robert Lamm

    GroupWe can make it happenWe can change the world nowWe can save the childrenWe can make it betterWe can make it happenWe can save the childrenWe can make it happen

    *****

    Hey, gas up the SUV, right Hotlick. They’re just old songs, right?

    May they turn to dust in your mouth when you sing them.

  44. TRACY
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Check this link turner,The guys that should be stumpin for Phill think he’s a cheat also.

    http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2006/10/former_attorney_general_questi_1.php

  45. Tony
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    I think Kline’s ad saying Morrison would rather let child molesters go because his friends would like to see the law not enforced, is over the top…

    I don’t like Morrison’s ad because it is negative and has that “scare me music” but it true. Klines is attackitory and false.

  46. JM
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    I suppose if one wanted to, you could make any violation of the law sound awful. Let’s take a traffic ticket for a speed violation.

    Mr. Smith has been issued a summons to appear in court to pay a fine for violating state laws that are endangering the lives of himself and others. Mr. Smith’s record shows repeated offense in the past ten years (at least two occasions.)

    Now, that sounds like Mr. Smith is just one awful human being doesn’t it?

    If someone wants to dirty up a political race, then they can do so under free speech, but it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  47. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Cap’n-That is a great song. I have the album (vinyl) I just sang it. No dust.

  48. Wichitagirl
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Hotlick, I’m not crying or whining, just making a statement about something that I want to in a forum where I have the right to do so. Also, I don’t believe I was addressing you at all, so butt out and keep your insults to yourself, ok?

  49. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Please madam-Carry on.

  50. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Both the AG race and the Gov race have shown some interesting dynamics.

    In the gov race Barnett tried the attack route and it seems to have backfired. Sebelius, on the other hand, has run “sweetness and light” ads that don’t really say a whole lot. Since the challenger has not gained any traction she has not felt the need to strike back.

    In the AG race Morrison had to make a name for himself – both because he is challenging an incumbent and because he is of a 2-1 minority party. This seems to have worked well; he seems to be leading in the polls. This has sparked perhaps an even heavier negative campaign from the incumbent – and again that seems to be backfiring, this time against the incumbent.

    If I were advising the candidates at this point I would be telling them to concentrate on themselves: “Vote for me because … ” rather than the other guy “He sucks because … ” I think both run the risk of alienating voters at this point.

    Meanwhile, in the 4th Congressional race Tiahrt is running a campaign not really dissimilar to Sebelius “I’m generally a great guy” without saying a whole lot.

  51. Todd
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    Barnett isn’t advertising enough, and he isn’t hammering the illegal immigration issue nearly enough. He’s going to lose.

  52. TRACY
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    I think Kline’s ad saying Morrison would rather let child molesters go because his friends would like to see the law not enforced, is over the top…

    YEP. Tony, that’s right up there with Denny Asshurt’s comments about coddling terrorists.

    He doesn’t even believe the crap he’s saying.Is ANYBODY stew-pud enough to believe dems wanna pamper killers?

  53. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Todd, Dr. Barnett’s lack of advertising is directly connected to a lack of money. On the immigration argument, hopefully the voters in Kansas understand that this is a federal issue, and any governor can have, at best, a limited impact thereon.

    Bluntly, there will be “illegal immigration” until such time the feds concentrate on enforcement against employers exploiting the cheap labor. If there is no demand, there will be no supply (to apply market economics to the matter).

  54. Todd
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Vaughn – It doesn’t make any difference whether the governor has an impact on illegals or not. What matters is that if Barnett can link Sebelius to illegal immigration in the minds of voters, he could get elected. But since he’s failing to do that loudly and consistently, he’s going to lose.

  55. Todd
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Also, pushing for illegals to hold kansas drivers licenses would seem to indicate that the state government has some impact on dealing with illegals.

  56. TRACY
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    It can ‘deal with them’.It cannot stop them without the feds.

  57. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Todd, this begs the question; I suspect, but can point to no hard data, that the driver’s license issue has had little impact on the number of illegal aliens coming to Kansas, but the availability of employment in the Western Kansas feedlots, meat packing plants, etc., has increased the desire to get here. Just my opinion.

  58. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    Jim G-Reading your post, one has to wonder who the sick fuck is. Did a little of your own fantasy slip in there?

  59. TRACY
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Damn hotlick.Only took a week for me to agree with you on something.Jim, what’s goin on?Crank, booze and porno?I don’t like Kline either, but posts like that could turn-off any possible Morrison supporters.Tone it down, pretty please?

  60. The Poor Ben
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    I’d vote for Kline if he didn’t seem as bad as Fred Phelps. I can’t get behind these religous candidates using their religion to get them into office. If you vote for someone because of your religion, go to Pakistan where religion controls everything and then you can feel like the rest of us non religious voters in Kansas. do.

  61. Rage
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Kline is shameless liar and a demogogue. He makes things up.

    Morrison, apparently, is not above mudslinging, but at least, unlike Kline, he is a competent prosecutor (Kline has not used his tenure as AG to prove otherwise).

    GMC, Kline may not be a fool, but he’s gone to great lengths to LOOK like one. The man is quite literally a national embarrassment.

  62. gster
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Rage-Be careful! You’re making him sound,… gasp!!, Presidential!!

  63. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Hi ‘other Ben’. My problem with Kline and others on the “religious right’ is that they imply that if a person doesn’t toe the line to ‘their version’ he cannot be a good Christian. I know many Christians who question whether Dobson et.al. represent their understanding of the faith well.

  64. GMC70
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    “Morrison, apparently, is not above mudslinging, but at least, unlike Kline, he is a competent prosecutor (Kline has not used his tenure as AG to prove otherwise).”

    Rage, being a “competent prosecutor” is in fact not a particularly important part of being AG, despite the adds on both sides to try to show who is most “tough on crime.” Prosecution is done at the county level, for the most part, not by the AG’s office. Even then, the AG does not personally prosecute cases (absent the extremely unusual circumstances, such as a SCOTUS appearance).

    The “competent prosecutor” schtick is an irrelevent distraction. Period. If you disagree with Kline’s policies, and certainly reasonable people may, say so. But don’t trot out this disingenuous “competent prosecutor” meme.

  65. RD
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    GMC,

    I have to wonder at the importance of the AG being a competant prosecutor. I admit to knowing little about Kline, except what I’ve seen in the news, and formed my opinion of him based on the few “sensational” things he has tried to do. Hey, I have to start somewhere!

    It just seems to me, as a little peon in the grand scheme of the law, that the more familiar one is with the law, especially of the state, the more one would be a better choice for State ATTORNEY General. Whether or not the person would actually have to appear in court and prosecute, he/she would need to know as much about prosecuting as possible so he/she would be able to make the right decisions.

  66. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    GMC is correct in that the Attorney General is primarily an administrator, not chief prosecutor. Much like the DAs in large counties, whatever prosecution is done by the AG’s or DA’s office is handled by Deputies, with the AG (or DA) often appearing, but really second-chairing, in the biggies.

  67. Steven Davis
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    On Morrison’s campaign: It appears to have been a very successful negative campaign. I really think Morrison truly dislikes Kline. But he shouldn’t, because Morrison has been handed gift after gift that has provided the fuel for his negative campaign. Phill is doing his part to lose this election. Morrison should thank him for that.

  68. Steven Davis
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    GMC & Vaughn,

    Kline is now and always has been ONLY a politician. He has tried to act AS IF he was an attorney because that credential is necessary for him the have the political job that he wants. Morrison has had administrative and political experience in his current job. He will do fine with the the State AG job and I am betting he won’t hire an unqualified relative nor try to launder money through his wife’s business.

  69. GMC70
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Steven:

    As I said before, I don’t doubt that Morrison will be a competent AG. But lets not pretend he’s not a politician. It’s an elected office. His office in Johnson County (DA) is an elected office. He’s a politician. And AG is a political job; to a certain extent, it demands a politician. I know that’s a dirty word, but it’s reality.

  70. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    For the administrator to be effective he must have the confidence of staff. I think that prosecutors will have more confidence in someone who has “been there done that” than in some strictly politician with no time in the trenches.

  71. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    GMC, once again you have succinctly stated reality.

  72. Rage
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Okay, GMC. How about an experienced administrator, and lawyer (Kline had little of the former before becoming AG, and we all know how seriously he took his license, don’t we?).

    You can put it dryly in terms of policy, but the fact remains that Kline has abused his office to pander to an extremist fringe, and has little else to run on. When challenged, he invariably launches personal attacks that have nothing to do with reality.

    He’s a dangerous self-promoter with a dangerous agenda. Serving the people of Kansas is not on his list.

  73. Alden Wilner
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    It’s actually kind of funny to see how both Morrison and Kline are doing their best to offend voters and lose.

    This race is a poster child for my belief that “none of the above” needs to be on _every_ election contest. “Throw ‘em both back, I want new candidates.”

  74. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    I have to admit that this whole race has surprised me. I expected incumbent Kline to win a month ago.

  75. Jed
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I would much rather have a candidate that tells me what his qualifications for the job are, instead of why I should vote against his opponent. It makes it sound like the choice is between the two worst candidates instead of the two best!

  76. Wichitagirl
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    I would much rather have a candidate that tells me what his qualifications for the job are, instead of why I should vote against his opponent. It makes it sound like the choice is between the two worst candidates instead of the two best!

    Posted by: Jed | October 19, 2006 at 02:44 PM

    That’s what I said earlier Jed, but got knocked for it. I wish these candidates would stop with the mudslinging and just get on with what they claim they will do for us if elected. I do believe the job can get done without the negativity and I would respect the person more for not having played the mudslinging game.

  77. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    I said something similar above – especially for Morrison. I think he can put the kill on Kline by launching a set of positive “vote for me because … ” ads right now. Especially with the Stephen thing in the news.

  78. Posted October 19, 2006 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Hotlick was a counter-culture wanna-be because he wanted to run with the hip crowd.

    Too bad.

    Underneath that unkempt hair was a guy with a crew cut who just wanted to feel he was better than others.

    So many poseurs, so few really caring people . . .

  79. RD
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    “Much like the DAs in large counties, whatever prosecution is done by the AG’s or DA’s office is handled by Deputies, with the AG (or DA) often appearing, but really second-chairing, in the biggies.”

    Sure. But my point still stands.

    Hey, I’ve watched enough Law & Order to get a vague idea of who does what. *grin*

  80. Vaughn Tolle
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    I’ve not viewed the ad in question; it sounds like Morrison has come close to shooting himself in the foot by using it. I agree with Ben; go forward positively. His campaign should also withdraw the ad in question from further use.

  81. Ben Huie
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Right now Morrison is above 50%. In a Republican state that is quite an achievement; however that also means his hold on them might not be that strong. So far a lot of that reflects ‘negative Kline’; the time has come for Morrison to cement it with ‘positive Morrison.’

    At least if I were advising him.

    Maybe just dust off that amusing ad with his family …

  82. Steven Davis
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    GMC -I agree with you for the most part. However, my point was that Kline is a politician and NOTHING else. Morrison is a politician AND an attorney with impressive court experience. Who to vote for is an easy decision for me.

  83. hotlick
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Actually Cap’n I have a Mohawk. And a piercing. An anal piercing. I should have thought it through better. I regret it now. I find myself not looking forward to my morning constitutional like I used to. Maybe I should get rid of it. Then get a crew cut. I wish I was better than somebody. Anybody really.

  84. Pam Dawson
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Rhonda needs to do NEWS and NOT speculation. If I remember journalist are not sided and report news NOT taking sides

  85. JWink
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    GMC70: Since you worked in the Johnson County DA’s office, perhaps you can remember how Morrison got there. I believe he was probably hired on by Dennis Moore, then JoCo prosecuting attorney, now 4th district Congressman representing JoCo and several other counties.

    Dennis Moore must have been raised here in Wichita because his father was a former Sedgwick county prosecutor who just passed away a few weeks ago. In any case, Dennis was a very popular prosecutor in JoCo and a Democrat one to boot. Dennis has carried that popularity into his current Congressman position which is why he virtually can’t be beat even in that Republican stronghold.

    I suspect Morrison took over when Dennis left to run for Congress but can’t remember for sure.

    Of course, Paul Morrison was a moderate Republican for years as was I which is how I became acquainted with Morrison.

    Moderate Republicans always were the workhorse behind the scenes political workers so when the right wingers started taking over the precinct committee positions in Johnson County and here in Sedgwick County, the volunteer Republican workers began drifting away.

    To me, this means the right wingers such as Phil Kline are doomed to eventually puff away as moderate Republicans begin riding the fence between Republicans and Democrats.

    As a moderate Republican, I don’t consider myself in the same camp with the right wing “Republican” boys.

  86. Steven Davis
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    “To me, this means the right wingers such as Phil Kline are doomed to eventually puff away as moderate Republicans begin riding the fence between Republicans and Democrats.

    “As a moderate Republican, I don’t consider myself in the same camp with the right wing “Republican” boys.

    JWink has hit upon the problem here. The moderate Republicans who have done a good job of governing in this state have been over-run with nuts, to wit: Brenda “F-bomb” Landwehr, Susan Wagle, and too many others to recount. The inmates are running the asylum in the Kansas Republican party. Those of you who let that happen have no one to blame but yourselves.

    Get used to defeat and humilation. You all have earned it the “hard way”.

  87. Steven Davis
    Posted October 19, 2006 at 10:49 pm | Permalink

    “I’m a guitar player, but it’s a little like calling a bald guy “Curly”. I’m not that great of a guitar player.”

    Funny, I would have sworn that ole Hotlick’s nic described his oral sex preferences:hotlick@cox.net

    I’ll bet our new found conservative friend has something to confess. What do you think?

    I’ll bet he’s indiscriminate and doesn’t insist upon condoms. But then again, if he’s like a typical Republican, he might only endulge fellow Republicans. I don’t think I would ever want to see such a thing, though. Some thoughts/scenes are just too awful to ponder.

  88. Rage
    Posted October 20, 2006 at 4:04 am | Permalink

    I support having NOTA on the ballot, but I thinking dumping Kline is more important (note that I still care about it 1000 miles away).

    Morrison may be prove to be less than wonderful, but it’s hard to imagine him being worse.

  89. Ben Huie
    Posted October 20, 2006 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Carla Stovall endorsed Morrison today

    http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/breaking_news/15808041.htm

    Former Attorney General Stovall endorses MorrisonFormer Kansas Attorney General Carla Stovall today endorsed Paul Morrison for attorney general.

    In a news conference at the Wichita Public Library, Stovall, a Republican who served from 1995 to 2003 as attorney general, crossed party lines to endorse Morrison, a Democrat who is challenging incumbent Phill Kline.

    Stovall praised Morrison as a career prosecutor with a “stellar record” of convictions in difficult cases. She criticized Kline, saying that he had misused his authority in seeking medical records from clinics that perform abortions and said that he had weakened consumer protection dramatically since she had left office.

    For more on this story, return to Kansas.com and see Friday’s Eagle

  90. Paul F. Rosell
    Posted October 21, 2006 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Bryan Brown does NOT owe any court judgements.The United States Supreme Court overturned all lower court verdicts against Operation Rescue or anti abortion protests that were based on the Ku Klux Klan act or the RICO Act.Brown’s “fine” was based on the KKK act.The Supreme Court tossed out ALL judgements based on the KKK act.The reason? In order to use the KKK act, the abortionists had to prove: 1.) Class based “animus” or hatred of one class towards another. 2.) “Color of law” in other words, that local governments were denying the “rights” of women.The United States Supreme Court tossed out all KKK act judgements against Operation Rescue and others because these two tests could not be proven in court.Bryan Brown is innocent on this charge, he is not required to pay a fine based on the ILLEGAL use of the KKK act.

  91. Posted October 21, 2006 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Why were fined 25 hundred dollars by the Kansas Ethics Commission, Paul?

  92. Posted October 21, 2006 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    were YOU fined, I meant . . .

  93. J R
    Posted October 21, 2006 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Yeah what about that Paul?

    And here I thought Paul had left the blog in shamed disgrace.(In other words, gotten a clue!) If I can still find the Bombardier strike thread, I’m gonna call for an apology from you Paul. You attempted to subvert and undermine the Bombardier workers in their strike. They were right and you were wrong.

    Oh and here’s another one you probably won’t like Paul.

    (Affecting sing song voice)

    Kline’s gonna lo-ose!

  94. Posted October 21, 2006 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    So’s Bon n n i e H u y!

    Hehehehe.

  95. Paul F. Rosell
    Posted October 21, 2006 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    CapnHow in the world is a KS Ethics fine in anyway or anywhere the same as saying that Bryan Brown did not “pay” a fine that he does NOT, legally, owe?The truth is, just about every leading politician has had to pay an Ethics Commission or Campaign Finance fine of some type.Heck, look at Harry Reid, the Dems leader in the Senate! (He will pay a fine very shortly, dont you think?)Try to stay on topic.It is wrong to say that Bryan Brown owes money for any past fine.He does not.You are legally and factually wrong.—–As for being away—Aw shucks JR, I missed you too!lolBy the way, the Bombardier strikers got 1% more on their contract, and a minor concession on health insurance that really doesnt make any sense over the long haul. They will be better off with the HSA plan, most of them.Anyway, a 1% raise, after 3 years are up, plus a modest $1,500 up front, which isnt enough to cover their time off for the strike.The Union lost, JR.It will be a very long time before the Learjet workers ever strike again, the company now has a chance to teach these people how an HSA works, and many will be mad at the Union radicals for lying to them.Also, the original vote against the contract was very small. (45% to accept, am I right?)You dont speak for any more of the workers than I do.Many who went out on strike, and voted against the contract, now wish they had voted for the contract to begin with!