The 700-mile border fence that lawmakers are bragging about is unlikely to happen, or at least not as advertised, the Washington Post reported. In addition to approving a $1.2 billion down payment to construct the fence, lawmakers quietly also approved legislation giving the Bush administration leeway to distribute the money to a combination of projects, not just the fence, and the authority to decide where, when and how long a fence will be built. Given that President Bush and the Department of Homeland Security aren’t big fans of the fence — they prefer a “virtual fence” and other barrier options — it’s likely that much of the money will be used elsewhere.
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Do I smell Halliburton slinking nearby? Cheney must need a couple more billion dollars to add to his fortune.
We should deport every felon who broke into this country illegally, and as a bonus we should deport every Commumist Party member of Columbia University!
Raj Goyle and his ACLU and “Center for American Progress” and other liberal friends try to block fences in court, claiming that they harm the environment:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20040210-1513-ca-borderfence.html
Congress asserted its power over the courts under Article III Section II, and told the courts they had no jurisdiction over a border fence in San Diego. They did that some time ago. Article III power was also asserted in the most recent border fence bill.You liberals make it nearly impossible to get anything done, and then you howl that things dont get done!
This is a paper Goyle helped write which opposes the deportation of illegal immigrants:
http://www.washingtonvoz.com/file_001/current/issue/blogs/blogimmigration.html
Congress had to strip the courts of their jurisdiction over border fences being built south of San Diego, because liberals like Goyle were going to court to stop the fences. Congress also had to limit court jurisdiction in the most recent legislation, because of activist lawyers like Raj Goyle!
lucee, what exactly does Halliburton smell like?
Too bad that Homeland Security won’t build that fence. We really need to stop the terrorists coming down from Canada from getting into Mexico!
Tracy,”lucee, what exactly does Halliburton smell like?”I caught a whiff a while back, and the best way I could describe it would be to imagine a dead pig left to rot all summer in the bottom of an overused outhouse next to an oil refinery in New Jersey.
Now, what does Ian smell like?
When we deport illegal immigrants why don’t we deport them to Iraq, Afganistan, etc. Then if they make it back to our country from there. Maybe they deserve a chance to become citizens. Stop deporting illegals back to their country. Let them be a problem to those who are bothering us.
Big, welcome to the blog.I think we already kinda’ do that.Doesn’t our volunteer army accept people who aren’t americans?
population dynamics trumps borders; always has, always will. And again, isn’t it ironic that the territory we stole from the Mexicans following the trumped up Mexican-American war is now populated by Mexicans? Don’t you people EVER learn anything.
Bush has effectively eliminated the checks and balances of our Govt. with his signing statements. All he needs to do is get his appointees to the SC, to go along.
Dorking, I was thinking the same thing while I watched the history channel’s special about that war.
Figures…
More money to Halliburton and Bush’s other friends in Texas.
Yea…
Paul, you idiot, that article doesn’t mention Raj, the ACLU, or the Center for American Progress. You are just a stinking liar. Why do you bother posting if you don’t even make the effort to create a plausible lie. Your anti-American rhetoric is annoying.
Wikipedia is hardly a conservative website. Catch up on your history, the US didn’t “steal” anything from the Mexican Government:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War
Not that the “Lone Star State” was perfectly pure, Texas as an independent state did still allow slavery. This is the primary reason that Democrats wanted to bring Texas and the other South West territories into the Union.However, Sam Houston did much to civilize Texas, including the abolition of canabalism, which was practiced by some of the native tribes.Sam Houston was considered a failure by some, since Houston wanted peace with Native American tribes. This was hard to accomplish, since many tribes were at war with each other, and some tribes worked, previously, or still, with foreign enemies, including Mexico:
http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/II/bzi4_print.html
Santa Anna was a brutal dictator. Santa Anna lost his war with Texas. Santa Anna agreed to Texas Independence as did Mexico.Mexico was in the middle of its own civil war at this time.Texas was then recognized as an indepenent state by other countries, exchanging diplomats.Texas then joined the United States.
To cast the United States as a villain in all of this is rather naive. Most Mexicans at the time of Texas independence wanted nothing to do with Mexico or Santa Anna!
(Again, immigration is not my hottest issue, but I always get offended when people mis represent history.)
Again Democrats, Raj Goyle supports open borders, is against deportation and wants amnesty.
Me? I would be happy if we just built the fences and stopped the illegal immigration, and I would be happy if we began deporting the violent aliens first.I would support “amnesty” for the families of illegals if one would join the military of the United States.I am not anti-immigrant, but I do see real problems with our current policy.
Most of the immigrant bashers on this Blog are Democrats who would rip me apart if Goyle was not runnnig for state representative, and if I simply quoted his “open borders” position. (Which I dont support at all.)
Paul – I think most of the territory referred to is California, Arizona, New Mexico …
One thing I recall from my days in CA was “Aztlan” – the idea of that regions as being occupied Mexico. I don’t agree with their position but I do recognize its existence.
Bunk again Paul,
You don’t care anymore about this problem than your useless president. You even said so once. You and he only address it at all because it is one of the biggest discussions in play.
Democrat or not I will say what needs to be said.A fence is a half ass, placate the crowd bush/Rosell non solution.
A nation that is outsourcing it’s lower middle and high skill jobs to foreign countries while simultaneously importing millions of low/no skill people is a nation that WILL not survive. Close the borders AND the ports. Put a morotoriam on all immigration for 5 years. Deport all non-citizens.
JR is right. Not to mention that the US is a debtor nation due to our lack of strong leadership. Debtor nations do not get to be the superpower of the world.
Just think what could have been done with the billions wasted on Iraq War? It is time we rebuild our own country into what we once were – a proud, law abiding nation that showed promise and hope to the rest of the world as a beacon of democracy.
With the Bush administration, our image is so tainted and we are despised because we are seen as the bully on the playground.
Winning friends is not one of Georgie’s strong points.
DougRaj is FOR open borders, you are the idiot.The article I posted makes clear that LIBERAL interest groups frequently try to block border security.Raj Goyle is against every anti terrorism effort and every effort to control illegal immigration.Raj is an ACLU member, a former PAID staff member, I would bet you that the attorneys from these various organizations are also ACLU members. That kind of goes with the territory. As a former staff attorney for the ACLU, Raj had to support EVERY ACLU position.The ACLU and Center for American Progress support full constitutional rights for illegal aliens and full constitutional rights for terrorists.Again, you are the idiot, you cant see the forest for the trees.
DougThis is a post from the La Raza website, they are asking people to contact Bush and tell him NOT to sign the fence bill:
http://capwiz.com/nclr/issues/alert/?alertid=9075406
Goyle gave me the La Raza link, La Raza was referenced in Goyles paper which opposed deportation!
http://www.washingtonvoz.com/file_001/current/issue/blogs/blogimmigration.html
Caught the beaner bus to Mexico in Wichita two years ago. It was nearly empty. In garden city, if filled up. Most of the riders were from northern Mexico going home for the holidays. Most worked at the packing plants. Packing plants make big contributions to Republicans. Who favors open borders?
Immigration is broken, certainly. But no fence will make any difference. It’s simple economics; as long as the Mexican economy offers no future for so many, they will come here. NO fence, no matter how high, how thick, will ever do anything but slow the inevitable tide.
I wish I had a ready solution for the immigration problem, but I don’t. I know what won’t work, however. A fence will make no difference. Take the dollars, and use them elsewhere. Frankly, the fact that people are still willing to risk so much to come here, even illegally if necessary, says much about the opportunity here.
Throw up your hands GMC.
Hey you aint alone. Both “sides” do it.
More plain truth?
Mexico has a government that is corrupt from the top down to the very bottom.
Mexican President Fox strongarms bush and Mexican policemen strongarm Mexican citizens and shopkeepers.
When a government is corrupt from the top down the only answer is revolution. Trouble is? All the folks who SHOULD be rebelling against the corrupt Mexican government are HERE and sending money back to prop up that same corrupt Mexican government.
We can send those folks home to address their problem or we can bring that same problem here.Think Canada will admit American refugees?
JR
You may be right on the revolution idea!!
I don’t know, I don’t have an answer. We simply cannot physically close our borders, even if we wanted to. And I don’t think we want to, if we really think about it. No amount of money will accomplish the kind of border some seem to want, unless we’re willing to militarize it and shoot on sight. I don’t think we’re willing to do that.
Cracking down on employers is a far more effective solution, and cheaper. But neither party really has an interest in doing that, for different reasons that have already been outlined.
Paul, you piece of shit liar, you claimed Raj, the ACLU and the Center for American Progress were mentioned in the article you referenced:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20040210-1513-ca-borderfence.html
They aren’t mentioned in there, therefore you are a liar. Your lies are so pathetically stupid they are easy to unravel. So you hide your lies with more lies.
I know you hate civil liberties because you hate the Constitution and America. That’s why you hate Raj, because he supports civil liberties. He also worked for the NAACP and that riles you because you hate non-whites. How about you just stab your brain with an ice pick so you won’t have to fret about living in a country you despise so much? Or are you just jealous he has a real job, went to a real university and you get paid to post on a blog?
So Paul, since you think you are so smart, how would you go about rounding up 10 million illegal immigrants and deporting them? Would you dissolve the Constitution, civil and human rights, and pay billions of dollars? Would you also be in favor of breaking apart families? Sure you would, because you are an anti-America racist fascist. You don’t care about anyone but yourself, you liar.
GMC
My “side” is as guilty as yours is GMC. My side has it’s eye on taking care of people to gain power over them. Yours has it’s eye on using people again to gain power over them.
BOTH are wrong.
We can’t fix Mexico. Only Mexicans can do that. They can’t do that from here. They are subverting that from here just by trying to survive.
Enforcement against the exploiters of illegals IS an answer. But it is not being done. Again, both “sides” are to blame. Kansas chambers of Commerce want spanish translators to enable users of illegal labor. Democrat governor Sebelius wants legal ID and drivers licenses for illegals and reduced tuition for their kids.
Maybe……just maybe this is the one issue the more reasonable on the left and the right could find common ground on. It is only the fate of 2 countries at stake.
I really don’t care how many Mexicans come to this country and find work – but my problem with them is that they are not legal.
Being legal citizens makes them like the rest of us – taxpayers. And I don’t mean just paying sales tax when they purchase goods.
Hell, I wish I only had to pay sales tax – I would be saving several thousand dollars every year.
JR
I suspect the Democrats don’t want to interfere with illegal immigration because they see those immigrants as likely democratic voters, not because they really “care” about them. But you’re right, neither side really wants to change the status quo much.
Maybe this is the issue that the center will grab and take politics back from the extremists on both sides. I doubt it; frankly, the use of primaries to choose candidates pushes the parties to their respective wings, and until that changes, I don’t see a lot of hope.
An answer to the illegal immigration and corruptions of the Mexican government might form it self into a take-over of Mexico by the United States.There are now an estimated 34 million immigrants in the United States, about a third of Mexico’s population.Many of the Mexicans want a better life then one that is offer in Mexico.It is almost as if they are seeking ways to abandon the Mexico government and its corruptions.
DougYou are putting words in my mouth. The Eagle post that started this thread said that the fence money might not get spent on the fence.I made clear that liberal interest groups have tried to stop previous fences in court, and that Congress had to strip the Courts of any jurisdiction to get the fences built.I also made clear that Article III Section II powers were included in this bill, for the exact same reason, to keep the courts out of this project.Doug, I challenge you to find me a single “Sierra Club” attorney who is NOT a member of the ACLU!The liberals claimed environmental harm due to the fence, because they had no legal cause of action to stop the fences any other way.Funny, I don’t know of any case where the Sierra Club opposed fences around National Parks, Forests, Reservations or Military bases, do you???I did not “lie” about anything.Goyle almost certainly has the backing of the left wing environmental lobby.I said clearly that “Goyle’s ACLU friends” were trying to block the fences in court.Take some responsibility Doug, for crying out loud.You Dems try to tar all Republicans for the individual acts of Mark Foley, but then you act like true political agendas of the Democrats can’t be discussed.Not allowing fences to be built on the border is part of the political agenda of the far left.Goyle is a member of the far left.Goyle opposes the fence building bill.Prove me wrong!
The ACLU, Raj Goyle’s former employer, is on the border NOW trying to intimidate the Minute Men:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1388580/posts
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2006/05/17/senate-oks-border-fence/
http://www.aclusandiego.org/GATEKEEPER.htm
The ACLU is so radical that they even oppose the Senate “amnesty bill” since it include a fence:
http://www.aclu.org/immigrants/gen/25664leg20060525.html
These wetbacks are not good people. they are simply another low iq, criminally inclined, useless racial minority group. You people haven no idea how much anger is welling up in Americans over this issue. Masive racial violence is just around the corner and many of you guilt ridden, self hating White leftists seem to be willfully blind.
The price of ‘diversity’
A new report on Hispanics in the United States offers a revealing look at America’s fastest-growing minority group. The results of the latest research into Hispanic behavioral patterns, achievement, and attitudes appear in Hispanics: A Statistical Portrait, published by the New Century Foundation.
Researchers compliled information on Hispanic income and wealth, crime rates, education, families, and health, comparing them with statistical data for Whites and Blacks. Significant differences emerged when the races were compared, among them:
- The per capita income of Hispanics is one half that of non-Hispanic Whites, and household net worth is less than one tenth.
- Fifty percent of Hispanic households use some form of welfare, the highest rate of any major population group.
- Hispanics are 3.3 times more likely to be in prison than Whites; they are 4.2 times more likely to be in prison for murder, and 5.8 times more likely to be in prison for felony drug crimes.
- Young Hispanics are 19 times more likely than young Whites (and slightly more likely than young Blacks) to be in youth gangs.
- Hispanics drop out of high school at three times the White rate and twice the Black rate.
- Even third-generation Hispanics drop out of school at a higher rate than blacks and are less likely to be college graduates.
- From 1992 to 2003, Hispanic illiteracy in English rose from 35 percent to 44 percent.
- The average Hispanic 12th-grader reads and does math at the level of the average white 8th-grader.
- At 43 percent, the Hispanic illegitimacy rate is twice the White rate, and Hispanic women have abortions at 2.7 times the White rate.
- Hispanics are three times more likely than Whites not to have medical insurance, and die from AIDS and tuberculosis at three times the White rate.
- In California, the cost of free medical care for illegal aliens forced 60 hospitals to close between 1993 and 2003.
- Only 33 percent of citizens of Hispanic origin consider themselves “Americans” first. The rest consider themselves either “Hispanic/Latino” or their former nationality first.
The full report may be viewed herehttp://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=10311
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!
Someone give a good reason why these “judges” should NOT be killed? Whu do whinig minority groups get to venue shop and find commie judges to over ride the will of the people of Arizona? Our democracy is a filthy fraud and it almost time to start killing scumbag, traitor politicians and judges!
Arizona’s voting law is in upheaval a little more than a month before the general election.Late Wednesday, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco blocked the enforcement of Proposition 200.
Arizona voters passed Proposition 200 back in 2004.
It requires voters to show identification at the polls and to have proof of citizenship when registering to vote.
At least six advocacy groups, Including MALDEF, an Hispanic rights advocacy group, filed a lawsuit challenging the proposition.
They claimed it would disenfranchise some voters.
Secretary of State Jan Brewer sent out this statement, Wednesday night expressing concern over the timing of the court’s decision, which she says “will lead to confusion at the polls.”
Attorney General Terry Goddard said in a statement Wednesday night that he will “promptly seek a review of the court’s decision” and appeal directly to the U.S. Supreme Court, if necessary….http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=5505622&nav=menu216_1
Viva La raza Blanco!!
Retaliation IS forthcoming! Justice will be served to the animals and traitors!
Illegal Immigration: War with Mexico ApproachesBy William H. Calhoun
A retired officer in the US military recently said to me, “We have a serious problem. Our country is pillaged on a daily basis, Mexico has all but declared war, Mexicans are aiding terrorists, and our president refuses to retaliate.”
We must live in a surreal world. Mexico invades the United States. Twenty million invaders have already crossed the border. And now Mexican politicians say they plan to ask the United Nations to prevent the US from building a fence. O tempora! O mores!
We know that the Mexican military and Mexican gangs help terrorists sneak into the United States. Texas Sheriffs have found Arabic materials along the Rio Grande. The Mexican military, Mexican gangs, and average ordinary Mexicans have been caught aiding terrorists all over the Southwest. In fact, as one observer remarked, “Mexicans seem to admire these terrorists.”
Although many Mexicans support and aid these terrorists, Mexicans have an agenda all their own: reconquista, the retaking of the Southwest United States. They believe they have a right to be in the Southwest, and plan to recolonize it. Their intentions are transparent, their success rate increasing. As Mexican activist Ricky Sierra said, “We are recolonizing America and they are afraid of us. They are very afraid. It is time for us to take back what is ours.” If retaliation is not forthcoming, Aztlan will live again. Every single white person will be removed from the Southwest or eliminated.
Many do not realize it, but most Hispanics are extremely anti-Western. Look at Mexico. With the exception of a very small upper class of pure European blood, most Mexicans are either Amerindian or Mestizos (mostly Amerindian with a few drops of Spaniard or African blood). In terms of genealogy, they are Asiatic. They are not Western, and they despise “gringo culture.” It is now commonplace for Hispanics to demand the removal of all “European elements” from their liturgy, and more recently Hispanics in the Southwest have banned all white authors from the public schools.
War approaches; war is inevitable. But the question is how it will manifest itself. “This certainly will not be a conventional war,” said one military analyst. Hispanics now permeate the US military, and many officers know that these Hispanics would side with their own raza (race). They would defect to the Mexican army, or try to ambush American attempts to defend the US. The US Army would break down into a civil war of sorts: patriots versus Hispanics.
The real war, however, would be in the streets, parking lots, and backyards of America. Loyal Americans would take up arms, join militias, and defend their homeland. Rockets and bullets would light the sky, and the future of America would hang in the balance.
War in the streets indeed will be the future, unless action is now taken. When Mexicans invaded the US in the 1950s, President Eisenhower responded with “Operation Wetback” and deported over one million Mexicans in less than a year. Our politicians today, however, say they are unable. Rather, they are unwilling. They have sided with Mexico and big business against their fellow Americans.
Some of the greatest traitors in American history are right before our eyes: GW Bush, Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, John McCain, Arlen Specter, Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, Mike DeWine, Linda Chavez, Alberto Gonzales, Carlos Gutierrez, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Linda Sanchez, Robert Menendez, Luis Gutierrez, Solomon Ortiz, and the list goes on and on. These miscreants have chosen Mexico, multicultural political correctness, and big business over hard-working Americans. They have betrayed Middle America.
What are patriotic Americans to do? At the moment, local action beckons. Lobby your local politicians to enact anti-illegal immigration legislation. Demand deportation. Join militias, join patrols, and prepare yourself for coming war. It will be a bloody war, but I predict, I hope, that patriotic Americans will be victorious.
——————————————————————————–William H. Calhoun is a writer, conservative, and graduate of the University of Chicago. He may be reached at: williamhcalhoun@yahoo.comhttp://newsblaze.com/story/20061005220712nnnn.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.html
viva La Raza Blanco!!
To the editors:
I am generally loath to suggest any sort of monitoring or censoring on this blog. An open forum, attended by those who choose to participate, with anyone who doesn’t like what is said or is offended may freely participate or leave. It’s the modern sidewalk soap box, but to a potentially larger audience.
But Ian has pushed that limit.
It’s not just the usual racist bul&%^#; we’re used to that. In that respect, Ian displays little more than full-blown ignorance, and can be, and generally is, ignored.
But calling for violence is another matter. I quote:”Someone give a good reason why these “judges” should NOT be killed?”"Our democracy is a filthy fraud and it almost time to start killing scumbag, traitor politicians and judges!”"Retaliation IS forthcoming! Justice will be served to the animals and traitors!”"Join militias, join patrols, and prepare yourself for coming war. It will be a bloody war, but I predict, I hope, that patriotic Americans will be victorious.”
That last one is a bit ironic. REAL patriotic Americans may well have to take up arms, at some point (I pray I’m wrong), but it will NOT be to fight a race war. Our at times shameful history tells us that we’ve been down that road, and it’s today been soundly rejected, by all REAL Americans. We won’t go back.
There is a line. Threatening or inciting violence is certainly across it. It’s time to draw some limits. I certainly do NOT want point of view censorship; but calls for violence, from any point of view, is beyond the pale.
It’s time to exercise some discretion, and pull posts which encourage or incite violence. I give you exhibit A, above.
Wah, wah, wah, GMC70, the lackey of our rotten system is offended by my rhetorical question. Censor away!
V.L.R.B!!
Come on GMC, there are THOUSANDS of Americans who are being raped and killed by the third world invaders very year and the traitor judges and politicains are ACCOMPLICES to those crimes! It is my OPINION that those traitors DESERVE to be killed, just like Benedict Arnold!
V.L.R.B!!
North Korea just successfully detonated a nuclear weapon.
Back to the thread at hand.
GMC? Ian is a known quantity here. If you don’t like what he has to post don’t read him. The scroll function is readily available for you to use. Please do not call for censorship. We police our own here. The editors have in the past removed posts they found unfit. A death threat from one poster on another was removed. But as it stood for 2 days before it was removed it forever destroyed the credibility of the person who posted it.
No one is calling to censor you GMC. Afford others the same courtesy.
Paul this is what you posted:
“Raj Goyle and his ACLU and “Center for American Progress” and other liberal friends try to block fences in court, claiming that they harm the environment:”
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20040210-1513-ca-borderfence.html
Where in that article is Raj or the other people mentioned? They aren’t, that makes you a liar. I didn’t “put words in your mouth” I just disproved your pathetic lie. So try not continuing the Grand Old Pedophile policy of covering a lie with another lie and try being honest. Or does your contract agreement forbid you to tell the truth?
Well Paul, in your limited intellect, try informing me how a fence is actually supposed to keep immigrants out considering that the majority of illegal immigrants got into this country legally? Getting a VISA then letting it expire and staying in this country isn’t that difficult. You could try building a wall like your fascist buddies had in East Germany but even then the defectors got into West Germany, not by climbing a wall, but entering in legally.
Does thinking about something actually present a challenge for you? Is that why you hate Raj, because he is actually intelligent and well educated and you suffer from brain envy?
There’s no need to censor Ian. He simply says what so many in the Republican party think, but are too afraid (except for George “Macaca” Allen) to say.
Doug get real.Raj is a former paid staff member of the ACLU.Raj Goyle fully supports the lawsuit that was designed to stop construction of the border fence.Raj Goyle fully supports all of the ACLU activities aimed at stopping the minute men and other groups who fight illegal immigration.Doug, you are counting angels on the head of a pin, you are a detail man, splitting hairs on stupid arguements.GOYLE’s political and legal friends stopped a fence south of San Diego, until Congress forced the Courts to stay out of the matter.Goyle belongs to several organizations that oppose the building of fences.I bet the attorneys that sued to stop the fence south of San Diego were ACLU members.Doug, your boy Raj has been caught with his pants down: he is supporting open borders during a time of anti-immigrant backlash.He has a right to his views, of course.I have stated clearly that I think the best cure for illegal immigration is for American politicians and American religious people to focus on the Mexican Government and their total failure. They are a country with huge resources, two beautiful coasts, a terrific climate for agriculture, and they are a 3rd World country.I fully agree that fences, alone wont do the job.I fully agree that America is facing a labor shortage and that we will soon need lots of skilled labor.However, you partisans on this Blog fight with me over my very reasonable immigration views, and you ignore the radical views of Raj Goyle.Type “Raj Goyle Immigration” into your browser.Tyle “Raj Goyle ACLU” into your browser.I am not making up anything.I have told the truth about Goyle and you cant stand it.
Paul, so what?
BTW, you are still a liar and that’s been proven. Too bad your contract won’t let you admit that. You sure do have a lot of anger for one of them colored folk having the nerve to run for office. It’s a holiday weekend, did you have the time to find a deer head to stuff in Raj’s mailbox?
Raj was a guest speaker at the Maryland GREEN Party, lol:
http://www.mdgreens.org/assembly03.html
He spoke against the patriot act, at this far left environmental group.Tell me again he doesnt support the Sierra Club?The fact that Raj didnt turn his questionaire back to the Kansas chapter of Sierra Club in time to get endorsed only shows how cocky he is, or how sloppy.
So time and time again Paul can’t address the issue. He constantly needs to lie or change the issue. Whoever is paying Paul to post here certainly isn’t getting their money’s worth.
Now Paul rallies against the ACLU and the Sierra Club. The ACLU defends civil liberties and Paul hates civil liberties because that gave Blacks the right to vote. The Sierra Club supports legislation to provide clean water and air. Ol’ Paul thinks a clean environment should only be provided to those who can pay for it.
So what’s the real reason for Paul’s anger? It can’t be Paul’s anti-Christian views that get him to hate the ACLU who support religious freedom. It certainly can’t be clean drinking water that the Sierra Club supports. No, Paul uses both those things. Well Raj isn’t white and Paul is. So perhaps the answer lies there. Or it could be that Raj is well educated and has a job that doesn’t involve posting on a blog, so that could be it too.
Paul is just upset because he’s a failure in life. Good luck with that deer head Paul and watch who you call ‘macaca’.
I have been all in favor of free posting. I advocate the rights of all to do so.
Paul Rosell is welcome to post here too.
But as Paul may be a paid poster on a paid agenda, I call for special scrutiny on him.
Paul really hates ol’ Raj, it’s probably out of fear. I wonder if it’s the same fear that prevents Bonnie Huy from engaging Raj Boyle in debate? Or maybe Bonnie debates as poorly as Paul.
The issue here isn’t their race, it’s their being illegal. Since both the Democrats and Republicans haven’t even so much as lifted a finger on fixing our f*cked up border and immigration situation, this only proves that both parties are really similar. Such as being both steaming piles of shit, the difference of which is the stink!
Ian,Shooting people because they are Hispanic is insane. Deporting illegal Hispanics is a much more humane option which I believe is favorable to the majority of Americans even to hardcore self-hating racists like yourself!
JR,Your pontificating on this blog is indeed annoying, to say the least. Sorry to bust your egotistical balloon, but you are not the dispenser of “credibility.”I believe I am not alone on this either. Here’s some advice:please get a grip.
Guillermo
Paul Rosell is a rat bastard shill.
JR:
“Paul Rosell is a rat bastard shill.”
Prove it. For all to see.
And, to go back to an earlier brief diversion, no, neither do I want censorship. I made that clear. I can ignore Ian’s ignorant rantings, generally, and free speach certainly means protection for speach which is disagreeable. But calls for violence are another matter, no matter who makes them.
Finally, JR, Will is right. You are not the “decider” as to who is credible, and your routine pronouncements on that subject are tiring. Get over yourself.
Sorry- that’s “speech”
50 points off for stupid spelling errors.
Since the Sierra Club supports wind power as an economic development opportunity for western Kansas that does not use up precious water I much conclude that Sierra Club hater Paul opposes such economic development.
GM, you’re just gonna’ have to get used to it man.Everbody is free to announce, pronounce, denounce, trounce, and rant away all they want.
It’s up to the individual to decide who they scroll-over and who they read.
I know, Tracy, and I’m not advocating changing that. I’m a big boy, I can take it. But Ian’s recent posts came dangerously close to criminal conduct (no, I don’t think he crossed that line, just that he’s peeking over it).
As to scrolling past, EDITORS, put the author’s name at the front, rather than the end. Makes it much easier to skip the BS. As it is, I have to read all of, say, 5-6 words of Ian’s crap to realize it’s crap, and skip it :-).
GM, agreed about the name.Would be nice, probly not gonna happen.Hang around and you learn to accept and deal with it.Local, state and federal cops are well aware of Ian and his ilk.
“Paul Rosell is a rat bastard shill.”
Prove it. For all to see.
Five or six words into this guy’s posts and I agree with JR.This guy is into opportunism at it’s worst. He’ll jump the fence in a heartbeat if he thinks ther’s a buck or two in it for him.In fact, he’s crossed the fence enough times that his balls are still hangin there, all dried up.
And what’s wrong with name calling?I LIKE NAME CALLING!!We could call it creative salutations if ya’ think it sounds better.
You called it Ben, Paul is pro-pollution, pro-drought and anti-development. Farmers welcome the wind power for added revenue. Paul hates the idea that farmers wouldn’t be working 12 hour days for low wages. I wonder why Paul hates farmers in a state that gets a lot of revenue from farming.
Add hating Kansas to Paul’s overall hating of America. I wonder why Paul despises living here so much
GMC
“Prove it for all to see.”
I don’t have to prove anything to you. The proof is right before your eyes on a day to day basis. I am FAR from alone in my conclusion.
Preponderance of the evidence councilor.
“Get over yourself”.
LOL you should go back some time and read the stuff I was posting before you started burning your little eyes with our blog! “Will” was around then. Why is is it that the only people that have called me outrageous are doing so from WAY beyond where I would ever go. How is it that you GMC find yourself in agreement with them? You are using a little less starch in your shirts here lately, but you got your own little corner on judgement as we see above.
Ok, I am fully aware that bringing up the “H” name is tired for most posts, so I will call up the Adolf name instead:There once was a man named Adolf who loved animals, especially dogs.He also loved children so much that he started a “youth group” which bore his name.Does this make him a good man???
That the Sierra Club does some things that I support does not mean that I am obligated to support the legal activism of that organization, when they try to block fences on the border.(Other “environmentalists” have blocked levy construction in New Orleans and damn repair and construction all over the country, as well as brush removal from floodways.)The Sierra Club is anti human, anti population growth and pro snail darter and Alaska Carribou.They are an elitist group that still manages to do a few good things.I would consider myself a conservationist but not an “environmentalist”, since I see radical environmentalists as making a value judgement that nature is more important that human life.I have probably recycled more newspaper and aluminum than 99% of the population.I did the newspaper bit with my dad for over 5 years as a boyscout, we hauled in a huge trailer every week as a fundraiser.In college, I raised money for more than one organization by doing the aluminum can thing. (Actually, I paid 1 cent above market rate to several people who brought the cans to me, then I turned in the cans, got the money and the prizes, inclucing a TV set and couches for my fraternity at the time.)Don’t preach to me.I like nature too.I just like people more, and I dont want to sacrifice human life for animals or plants.By the way, didnt the Kennedys object to a wind farm that could be seen from the Kennedy compound?
Paul F. Rosell,
“(Other “environmentalists” have blocked levy construction in New Orleans …”
I *DARE* you to try prove your bogus claim.
‘BLAMING ENVIRONMENTALISTS FOR KATRINA: WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW!’http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2005-09-13a.asp
Paul: “I just like people more, and I dont want to sacrifice human life for animals or plants.”
1) Humans, plants, and animals are all interconnected.
2) Whose human lives have been “sacrificed” by environmentalists? For example, reducing consumption of fossil fuels would reduce pollution, improve health, reduce premature deaths, and reduce global warming.
Times are changing on enviro issues Paul! Carefully read, and listen to the MP3, at the Financial Times Limited,
‘Gore and Murdoch join forces in TV deal’http://www.ft.com/cms/s/de691d8a-552e-11db-acba-0000779e2340.html“At Pebble Beach Rupert Murdoch, News Corp chief executive, urged News Corp officials to follow his son James’ lead and to try and tackle climate change issues.”
“The Sierra Club is anti human”
Well, that has to be one of the dumbest things Paul has said. The Sierra Club is one of those organizations that works on behalf of everyone who breathes, eats and drinks so I can see how Paul concludes they are anti-human.
Sure Paul hates the Sierra Club because they are opposed to building a pointless, taxpayer funded fence that prohibits the movement of species in an ecological sensitive environment. Paul’s reason for needing a fence is still unclear unless Paul does like wasteful government programs whose sole purpose is to enrich conservative corporations at taxpayer expense.
Paul is completely clueless about environemental issues. How one who thinks nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists is a positive thing yet can call the Sierra Club anti-human is beyond me.
Paul, just because you recycled a newspaper many years ago and perhaps you may have stayed in a Holiday Inn last night this doesn’t mean you know what you are talking about. You reference Ann Coulter for goodnesssake. The shemale doesn’t know the difference between a footnote and an endnote.
How does one get paid to post on blogs. By your example it doesn’t take much experience or education to do so.
Crazy idea to just put a fence up, oh well fodder to draw on…http://newsblaze.com/cartoon/newsblaze/bushwhacked35.html