Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., has been a fierce defender of President Bush’s judicial nominees in the past. And the Senate Judiciary Committee, on which Brownback serves, already has approved of the nomination of Michigan Court of Appeals Judge Janet T. Neff to the federal bench. So Brownback should stop grandstanding about Neff’s participation four years ago in a lesbian couple’s commitment ceremony, which he inexplicably thinks might have been “an illegal marriage ceremony.” We get it — Brownback doesn’t want gays to be lawfully wed. Lucky for him, gay marriage is already banned in 45 states and by federal law. Letting Neff’s nomination go through won’t change that.
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There must be water nearby because I’m seeing a showboat.
Why is Brownback so concerned about a judge’s presiding over a commitment ceremony 4 years ago for a lesbian couple when his own party, the GOP, are so blatantly defending Mark Foley – an admitted gay 52yr old man sending sexual emails to underage male pages?
Brownback needs to clean out his own party’s backyard before he starts on anyone else’s.
Hypocrisy at its worst!
Why are the Democrats getting so pissed at the Republicans over the whole Foley affair when they RE-ELECTED that Massachusetts governor who was having sex with infants?
Hypocrisy at its worst INDEED!!!
As it now turns out the “page” in the Mark Foley scandal was 18 years old at the time of the incident and is now 21 years old. Guess that no longer makes Foley a @#$%e wanna-be (never actually followed through with sex act). He’s just a plain old Faggot which has always been embraced by the Democrapic Party. So you Fag loving Democraps had better quit your “Gay Bashing” and embrace one of your own.
Now Gerry Studds (Democrat @#$%e) was a differant matter. No wanna-be there. A true practicing Democrap @#$%e. He still claims it was a “private relationship”. Details below……
The 1983 Congressional page sex scandal was a political scandal in the United States involving members of the United States House of Representatives.
On July 14, 1983 the House Ethics Committee concluded that Rep. Dan Crane (R-Ill.) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-Mass.) had engaged in sexual relationships with minors, specifically 17-year-old congressional pages. In Crane’s case, it was a 1980 relationship with a female page and in Studds’s case, it was a 1973 relationship with a male page. Both representatives immediately pleaded guilty to the charges and the committee decided to simply reprimand the two.
However, Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) demanded their expulsion. On July 20, 1983, the House voted for censure, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct. Crane, who subsequently apologized for his transgression, lost his bid for reelection in 1984.
Studds, however, stood by the facts of the case and refused to apologize for his behavior, and even turned his back and ignored the censure being read to him. He called a press conference with the former page, in which both stated that the young man, who was 17, consented. Studds had taken the adolescent to Morocco to engage in sexual activity, and therefore did not break any U.S. laws in what he called a “private relationship.” He continued to be reelected until his retirement in 1996.[
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While I hate the Republicans just as much as the Democrats, I believe this guy has a point.
If Massachusetts voters re-elected that guy, that is called democracy at work. Get over it.
And yes, I do blame any politician – Republican or Democrat that covered up for Foley if they knew this pervert was doing these emails. I dont’ buy it that no one knew.
The GOP claims they are the only party with morals – let them prove it!
I believe Foley was talking with more than one page and they were underage. So don’t try to whitewash the facts into something they are not.
Suza,I’m not whitewashing anything. Furthermore “talking dirty” is different than actually flying 17 year old paiges to Morocco to have sex with them. Did Foley actually have sex with all the paiges he talked dirty to? Well, that has yet to be revealed.
Ah what do I care anyway? I find it comedic that both parties throw so much mud at each other! It gives the 37% Independents in this country a good example at how much they both stink like shit!
Just the fact that he invited them to his house for drinking liquor and ice cream shows motive?? Isn’t provide liquor to minors an offense?
I would certainly be suspicious if that was my son being invited by a 52yr old man. That is just too creepy.
My only point is that the GOP outright tells voters that the Democrats are the party of the Godless and have no morals.
If the morals being portrayed now is what the GOP considers Christian morals – then God must be really ashamed to have his name associated with that group.
I agree, Will. I’m hoping that the common sense voters will start demanding better of both parties or to start a third party for the 2008 presidential election.
There are hypocrits on both sides but I don’t believe Brownback has any moral authority to tell someone else what to do.
suza,and you think that the average Republican voter is just gonna swing right on over and vote Democrat? Why? Because instead of expelling their perverts they re-elect them!? I don’t think so, but that’s just my opinion. As for me, I’m a registered Independent and I’m voting Greens party.
Ugh! Brownback is a politician, just for that fact, he shouldn’t even consider himself to have a “moral authority!” I always laugh my ass off when him and Kline get the Morality Police on Kansas, imposing their way of life on everyone! Last I looked this was a free country!!!
No I don’t think Republicans are going to switch and vote Democrat because of the Foley scandal.
Republicans still want their power and will do whatever it takes to keep that power. What the scandal might do is to get more independent and democrat voters out to elect more Democrats in which would shift the power into a more balanced Congress.
That, at least, would help in the short term. But I fully believe both parties are rotten to the core.
Suza,I agree with that last one.
I’m registered independent also and sometimes it is a choice between bad or worse. I always vote for the one that I think will do me the least harm.
hehehe! Pick the “lesser evil!” You’re right about that. Me, I don’t care who the hell sits in the Oval Office, all I know is we gotta get this idiot administration the hell out! That’s the first step at fixing this country.
It is time that we all play hardball politics here. The last time we have something of this nature the GOP send an impeachment package to the senate with GOP house members. Let us have a level playing field, congress need to show the people that they represent a transparent behaviour. The country need to know that we are all equal under the law, there should be no shielding for and representative. The Democrats should also show that they represent the people not a party in disarray as the party has been projected in the past two elections. Wrong is wrong.
“RE-ELECTED that Massachusetts governor who was having sex with infants?”
Will – got any verification of that claim?
And if this had been a “conservative” judge who had been a part of some type of Pro-Life activity the Democrats would be calling for him to be burned at the stake let alone asking questions about his judicial activism…
“burning at the stake” – wasn’t that a quaint custom practiced by certain cults in our history?
Will I admire you.
Will-you got a reader–great!!
Another smoke and mirrors play at misdirecting people away from the GOP’s many failures.What in the wide world of sports does a gay marriage from 4 yrs ago have to do with any of the REAL issues?You know, things like immigration, national security, minimum wage, health care, etc.
Tracy,
The point is about the type of Judge this person is.
If this Judge is openly and willingly a participant in activities which go against the law or are intended to subvert it or be a political statement against it then that shows a Judges additude towards the law.
Nathan – is there any evidence that the judge violated or subverted the law? Did he issue signing statements claiming that the laws do not apply to him?
Eagle editors apparently found my comments too foul to print so I’ll spam my website.
http://www.hazink.com
May my stats expand as rapidly as a good washington sex scandal.
I don’t know what the extent of this judges activities are.
It depends on what the judges role was in the alleged ceremony and where the ceremony stood in legality it’s self or what the judges purpose was in that ceremony.
I don’t know.
Let the gays get married.Why don’t we work on healthcare for our children?
Hey Dorking, I took a look at your site.No place to comment?NO?Then why should I go there to get your opinion.I like my opinions better than yours.You should too! HA
Hey Tracy: What I think is that racial diatribes are more obscene than the phrase “good stiff woody.”
I had submitted a “cleaned up” version to the eagle, with all the conventional curse words excised.
The fact that the Eagle wouldn’t accept the prase “good stiff woody” illustrates my point. The whole country is hysterical about S-E-X.
Phrases much worse appear regularly on Prime Time television.
Hey, I agree man.I’m sure I’ve written much worse without recourse.Sometimes people’s comments just dissapear, no apparent reason.I remember another ocassion when I intentionally ‘flamed’ Ed. Nothing that I wrote was offensive by itself, but followed by Ed’s potty mouth diatribe, well, it was enough that they removed my comments also. And I understand now, I didn’t then.Your comments may or may not have been removed due to substance.
Much ado about nothing. So what if Senator Brownback sticks to his convicitons. Does that make it open season on his beliefs and value base?
Sometimes I wonder if bloggers are striving for attention in blogs because they don’t have their school teachers telling them to hush or sending them to detention for their less than admirable antics and potty mouths.
This blog will die out if they can’t put up anymore than personal attacks on politicians.
personal attacks on politicians are all blogs are.
Where’s the commentary on Brownback comes down on GOP pedophillia, and those who try to cover it up? Maybe they’re still waiting for him to?
Door King,
Evidently you have limited exposure to blogs. There are as many subjects as there are blogs. Want to create a blog on the issue of whether classic cars re-created with fiberglass parts can truly be deemed classics? Then that is your priveledge to do so.
Blogs range from scientific to pure nonsense. Go look up a defintion for Blog and find out for yourself. Some blogs are quite fascinating, others are a pure waste of electrons and bandwidth.
o.k. 90 percent of blogs are personal attacks on politicians. my bad.
o.k. 90 percent of blogs are personal attacks on politicians. my bad.
“RE-ELECTED that Massachusetts governor who was having sex with infants?”
Ben, I noticed willfully untruthful hasnt provided any proof of this outrageous claim.
I see the ass smoke machine must have started early this week.
JM”digger”
Whining about this forum, on this thread and others, is becoming the theme for all of your posts. There isn’t someone with a gun at your head forcing you to read or post here is there?
“This blog will die out…”
JM? I have been reading and posting here since this blog openend. It is the same here as it has always been. We are gaining readers and posters all the time.
Brownback is just showboating for his base for his pie in the sky presidential hopes.
Last time I checked anti-abortion protests were legal. But I do not think that a sitting judge should be out there with the protesters.
Judges should be seen as fair and impartial. Once a judge goes out to protest abortion – that fair and impartial flys out the window!
And I believe this judge went to Massachusetts for this lesbian ceremony? Wasn’t that when gay marriage was legal in Massachusetts? So did this judge really do something illegal?
…and speaking of ass smoke…
nathan has no knowledge of the facts or circumstances surrounding this judge and the alleged committment ceremony (which, the last I checked is not a MARRIAGE ceremony).
But that lack of knowledge of the facts sure as hell doesnt stop him from condeming her.
Who need facts when you get all the news you need from rush?
heheheheheheh
“This blog will die out…”
hee hee hee hee
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/10/we_blog_leaves_.html#comments
In your dreams……
SO meadowpoop and JM get their little feelings hurt by us mean old libs? heheh (nice meme touch)
Then why come back here over, and over and over and over ad nauseum? You just love to be offended? You are guardians of OUR morals? You love the attention?
We see how well the Sal journal blog works meadowpoop. Nada. Same with the hays daily ass wipe. But they are oh so civil. JM, you might like it over there since it is milquetoast flavored. And with no readership.
SO, just for spite, you just want to drag this blog down to YOUR levels of participation?
hehehehee. I guess if you cant build something of your own, you can always tear down something that is successful for someone else.
Must be a repuke!
Gay marriage is already a done deal. It’s like school integration.
You’ve got the modern day segregationists making political hay out of what is already a foregone conclusion.
A majority of American people want it because there is no reason against it . . . except tradition.
People who value religious superstition and tradition–The Pope, the Taliban, Jerry Falwell et al.–will always be fighting a rear-guard action against what is fair and right, just as they did during the Civil Rights days.
(Look at King’s “Letter from a Birmingham Jail” and to whom he was writing: the clergy.)
Brownback is on the wrong side of history. He’ll be looked at in another generation the way we look at Mississippi Governor Ross Barnet, Police Chief Bull Connor, or George C. Wallace.
BTW, let’s not forget who thrust this issue into national prominence–the right-wing Supreme Court.
When they struck down “sodomy” laws, the legal basis for outlawing gay marriage evaporated.
heheheheh
republican judges are act-ee-vist judges?
say it isnt so…….
“…and speaking of ass smoke…”
hahahhheheheh
Now THAT’s why we tune in to WE blog!!
Name calling? We love name calling.SAY IT!!~~SAY IT!!
Uhh, I am not sure there is any truth to the Mass. Gov. reelection story vis-a-vis his sexual contact with infants. What the hell is that about? Never, ever, ever, have heard of it.By the Way, North Korea most likely would not have tested the bomb had our Pres. had a policy of communicating with rogue nations rather than righteously stonewalling any nation that Bushy doesn’t like.I blame Bush. He is an outright pathetic loser. However, because they tested the bomb, many more nations will finally help to stand-up to N. Korea.Bush needs to go away before we get bombed again on our own soil.
If Foley wanted to behave like this he should have taken the sex junket with Rush to the D.R.
Legal definition of infants people < 18 years of age. My bad though, I should have said “minors” but legalese is taking control of my tongue again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Congressional_page_sex_scandal
and Studds wasn’t a Democrat governor, he was a Democrat congressman. Again, I posted that it was a governor at nearly 3 am and my brain must have been hafl asleep. But of course Studds being a Democrat means that his screwing MINORS is not a big deal because it is common knowledge that when it comes to morality… DEMOCRATS ARE HELD AT A LOWER STANDARD!!!:)
http://www.factcheck.org/article438.html
Another reason why both parties are steaming piles of shit!
But Will, Studds was censured by the House after an investigation by the Ethics Committee. The issue in the Foley matter has gone from the ethical (at least) misdeeds of one congressman to an examination of a potential coverup by the House leadership, which, as I recall the Wikipedia article you link, was not invovled in the Studds matter, as distasteful as it was.
The Studds matter has been addressed and is in no way connected to Foley.Even bringing it up is a feeble attempt at diverting our attention from this ongoing scandal.It’s just silly thinking anybody will change their opinion of Foley’s deeds because someone else did something bad in the past.
Like you said Vaughn “POTENTIAL COVERUP” meaning it hasn’t been proven yet! So we can’t just throw the bastard in jail because he potentially committed a crime, (as much as I would like to) So whether there was a coverup or not I can’t say, cuz it hasn’t been proven yet.
Tracy,I am in no way trying to ‘divert attention’! If it were up to me, Foley would be crucified. I just brought up the Studds affair to illuminate the fact that the Democrats are equally as morally perverse as their Republican adversaries!
Divert attention!? I’m not Paul buddy!
will – what we do know is that at least some in the GOP leadership are lying about who knew what when. They are contradicting each other all over the place.
We are constantly reminded that it wasn’t Clinton’s bj but his lying about it that mattered. Well, in this case it’s not the Page idiocy that is key but all the lies from GOP leaders about it.
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