http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2006/10/parsons_sun_endorses_runyan.php

I wouldn’t go so far as to equate Bush to a high-school-teacher level. ;) On all else, I agree, in that our heavy-handededness in the Middle East (our presence and over-interest currently and the recent past, i.e. Saudi Arabia and others) has to do with oil.

This was so veiled or maybe even not as important as now as it was in the past to other administrations, that we didn’t notice it. While we common people were still discussing the end of the Cold War, they (politicians) were quietly looking at the ME for oil. We really need to wake up and pay more attention.

Here’s the problem with “Islamofascist Terrorism”.Why do you think it exists, dear readers? Why isn’t Brazil or Mexico or Norway being attacked? Wake up. It is because these countries are not trying to control Middle Eastern nations’ oil resources. They aren’t trying setting up petroleum “banana republics”. Bin Laden could never destroy people like you and me, except by accident. What he and his followers were/are trying to do was/is wreck the Anglo-American Middle East oiligopoly. That’s not the same as murdering average working-class Americans. We let our administration propagandistically morph one into the other, because the oilogopolists knew that an honest reason presented for war to the American public would not pass the American public support test.

Some readers here think, “We just need to bomb and shoot the s**t out of the Iraqis, and we’ll WIN IN IRAQ. Like, the other BILLLION Muslims in the world will sit back and not do anything.

Clinton did some things that nobody liked. But, he’s been giving speeches. He’s a really smart guy. Bush was set up by hidden interests to be sold to “regular Americans” as a “regular guy”, which he is, according to his SAT of 1156, which in his day represented a ca. 115 IQ (the old SAT was an IQ test), i.e. in the range of high school teachers, not enough to be entrusted with the lives of people as a doctor, not enough to get into a good law school.

Bush is/is not leading the country. Basically, his presidency was set up to have smarter people surround him and run the nation, but he gets these ideas that he’s the “decider”. Do you want a high-school-teacher level of intelligence “deciding” history-changing events?

And the Cap’n is right. I give John Murtha only limited credibility as a military expert because he stupidly voted for that obvious fiasco. Over time, us MERE BUFFOONS predicted (with heartbreaking accuracy) what actually came to pass.

Your forgot to include cheese-eating surrender monkey.

Oh, gee, I dunno.

Maybe it has something with being called an “America hater,” a “terrorist lover,” a “coward,” an “appeaser,” someone who “loves the enemy more than his own country,” a “traitor,” “mentally ill,” “treasonous,” “Al Qaeda lover,” “clove cigarette smoking latte liberal,” “naysayer,” “Bush hater,” “bedwetting liberal,” “thumbsucking liberal,” “crybaby,” and “whiner.”

Maybe it’s just me, but can’t help but think of that as an insult.

Then after three years and three thousand American deaths proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the “crybaby coward thumbsucking Al Qaeda loving liberals” were right all along about Iraq . . . then what do we get?

“Well, what’s YOUR plan?”

BTW, 40 percent of the money the Pentagon spends goes to American contractors who make money by spending money–it’s called “cost plus” accounting.

You’ll hear a lot more about the egregious fraud and corruption going on in Iraq when the Repukes are swept from power in the November elections.

So, in an archeological dig, finding low C14 to C12 ratios can result in a conclusion that the studied matter is older than it is.

Frankly, I think it is much more important to teach kids experimental science: here are materials, what happens when you do various things to them? Because, the reality is, if evolution is true, the problem is there aren’t a lot of jobs out there for paleontologists. There ARE a lot of jobs out there for people who can perform economically-useful scientific experiments.

I know of others who pronounce it with oo, but it’s like Koch. There’s the long o and sound like the soft drink, there the one like Mayor Koch of NYC, and one of my best friends in high school’s name was pronounced as ‘cook.’

Saying all the NEA cares about is education is like saying all the afl/cio cares about is trucks.

They are a union. They have a liberal political agenda and never support the republicans.

Hank

I had been asked to run by the head of the Sedgwick County Republican party head. I wanted to win, I just didn’t want to go to Topeka!

Carl and I are still friends.

Hank

In all fairness I may have been a little anoying to them. It was the local NEA people, the teachers union. They use to interview candidates, anyway they pestered me for about an hour.

Hank

That was my second attempt at ‘public service’! Carl Koster won the primary and lost in the general election.

Carl is a pretty good man, he would have made a good representative for our district.

Do you live in the 93rd?

Hank

Ict–

1. People opposing the war are not now nor were they ever in the “minority.”

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Opposition among Americans to the war in Iraq has reached a new high, with only about a third of respondents saying they favor it, according to a poll released Monday.

Just 35 percent of 1,033 adults polled say they favor the war in Iraq; 61 percent say they oppose it — the highest opposition noted in any CNN poll since the conflict began more than three years ago.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/21/iraq.poll/index.html

A majority of Americans favored going to war with Iraq, but only with a UN COALITION. We never got a UN coalition, did we.

2. You notice how the right-wingers are not using that phrase “cut and run” so much these days? That’s because it’s perfectly obvious that the Republicans are going to cut and run without calling it cutting and running.

Iraq is just too much of a liability for the War Party these days.

You should really update your talking points, Ict. “Cut and run” is so last June. It’s like “a MUSHROOM CLOUD over an AMERICAN CITY!” It just doesn’t poll well anymore for your side anymore.

3. What’s my plan? Well, thanks for finally asking, sh*thead. Three years after you people ridiculed and impugned all of us who were RIGHT, you now have the brass to come back and say that WE don’t have a plan.

God, you people make me sick. I mean you’re really too, too much.

You’re like a man who whores around on his wife, gets AIDS and infects her with it and then says, “hey, what’s YOUR plan?”

An excellent plan was laid out by George McGovern in this month’s Harper’s magazine. Since it’s new, it hasn’t been archived yet, so you can’t find it online. Even Lexis-Nexis doesn’t have it up yet.

But it involves coalition building, training Iraqi troops, giving the democratically elected gov’t actual power, quit paying American companies billions to do nothing (see “Iraq for Sale” by Robert Greenwald), cease building all military bases (something like 100 at last count) and turn them over to the Iraqi government, and in short, actually allow the Iraqis to run their own country.

That would be a good start.

I was not aware that the NEA interviewed local candidates. Please explain.

You are late to this forum. And here you are off topic to boot. I’ll forgive that as this thread has spun off topic.

Ict? FYI

Capn was attempting to collect on a year old bet he made with another moron who thinks we can win in Iraq if we just keep on keepin’ on. That particular “pollyanna” was Joe Williams. Joe assured us a year ago that Iraq would be pretty much a settled matter a year out……in other words well, NOW. Capn was not gloating over the death of our servicemen. He was trying to show that attitudes like Joe’s and yours are going to get MORE OF THEM KILLED.

I doubt if I was on your ballot! I got beat in the republican primary two elections in a row. I ran for the 93rd distric state representative.

I wasn’t disapointed by the votes for my opponent but I was amazed and humbled by the amount of people that voted for me!

Hank

An analogy: Suppose I am facing serious surgery due to malpractice by my doctor. To I trust that same doctor to perform that surgery? I THINK NOT!

still waiting, what is your plan? Fact is you have none. At this point it DOES NOT MATTER why we went to iraq. The fact is we are there and we should win it period. I am not for war and politicians should not run a war. You only have to go back to southeast asia to see the results of the elected officials running a war.You and your 2 million are the minority on this issue.

Let me guess, you would want to cut and run!