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- By Phillip Brownlee
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The Republican Congress is planning on raising taxes on the Middle Class to help pay for the war that the middle class and lower economic classes tend to fight:
http://www.americasdemocrats.org/exposing_gop.cfm
What does that mean for the rich? Well, the Republicans are still pushing for a reduction in the estate tax so they’ll keep all the billions they’ve made plus some extra.
Republicans, always looking out for number one, well the number one percentile on the economic ladder. As for the poor folk, the military is always hiring to replace the growing dead on the battlefield.
Doug,
Did u see the article in today’s WE entitled “America’s middle class is struggling”?http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/15634103.htm?source=rss&channel=kansas_news
This is right along the same lines… The Rich get Richer and the Poor get Poorer…
The Rich ain’t goin to like the day when the poor raises up and redistributes the wealth they have collected…
A passage from “The World is Flat”
The global populist movement, better known as the antiglobalization movement, has a great deal of energy, but up to now it has been too divided and confused to effectively help the poor in any meaningful or sustained manner. It needs a policy lobotomy. The world’s poor do not resent the rich anywhere nearly as much as the left-wing parties in the developed world imagine. What they resent is not having any pathway to get rich and to join the flat world and cross that line into the middle class…
Let’s pause for a minute here and trace how the antiglobalization movement lost touch with the true aspirations of the world’s poor. The antiglobalization movement emerged at the WTO conference in Seattle in 1999 and then spread around the world into sussequent years, usually gathering to attack meetings of the World Bank, the IMF, and the G-8 nations. From its origins, the movement that emerged in Seattle was a primarily Western-driven phenomenon, which was why you saw so few people of color in the crowds. It was driven by five disparate forces. One was upper-middle-class American liberal fuilt at the incredible wealth and power that America had amassed in the wake of the fall of the Berlin Wall and the dot-com boom. At the peak of the stock market boom, lots of pampered American college kids, wearing branded clothing, began to get interested in sweatshops as a way of expiating their guilt. The second force driving it was a rear-guard push by the Old Left-socialist, anarchists, and Trotskyites-in alliance with the protectionist trade unions. Their strategy was to piggyback on the rising concerns about globalization to bring back some form of socialism, even though these ideas have been rejected as bankrupt by the very people in the former Soviet Empire and China who had lived under them longest. (Now you know why there is not antiglobalization movement to speak of in Russia, China, or Eastern Europe.) These Old Left forces wanted to spark a debate about “wheather we globalize.” They claimed to speak in the name of the Third World Poor, but the bankrupt economic policies they advocated made them, in my view, the Coalition to Keep Poor People Poor….
From Josh at TfK:
In which I steal material wholesale
Unholy Moses’ Obituary for America is too good not to reprint:
Washington — America, United States of, died Sept. 28, 2006, after a six year illness. The family states that is was, in fact, the domestic foes, not foreign, that finally took their toll.Born in 1776 in Philadelphia, America grew up in an age of reason, matured during industrial expansion, and spent its final years basking in a glow of technology. Her parents were Checks and Balances, while her second set of parents were Habeas Corpus and Due Process. Admittedly a complex family, they enjoyed more than two centuries of success.…Surviving her are more than 300 million living children still at home, and countless others who now reside all over the globe.There will be no memorial service, as most of her children are too busy watching reality television, playing video games, and trying to get rich. Thus, they may not even know that she has gone until they realize it is too late.They family asks that you leave your last respects here, or make a donation here or here, in the hopes that she may eventually be brought back to live another day.And may whatever god or gods exist have mercy on all of our souls.We do indeed live in the dictatorship of America now, an America where citizens can be detained indefinitely without trial, tortured, refused habeas corpus, and convicted and sentenced based on secret evidence.
And it happened with a whimper. A meaningless compromise, backed ultimately by members of both parties, validating practices that were never acceptable.
Tracy I guess that is what I have been preaching about when I say the soul of the country. Has anyone really stopped and looked at the real effect that this “war on terrorism” is having on the very country that is trying to defend itself?
It is the moral issue that has been fought since man started walking erected. If I act no better then you, how can I than be better? How am I different, if the only difference between killing and enslaving is the moral reasoning behind it? What real difference is there between the mother that drowns her five kids if she said that God told her to do it or the devil told her? The end result is that five children were drown by their mother.
It is not the terrorist who look to this nation for moral justice, it is her citizens and that is what has made this country great. There has not been another attack on America in five years! Why should there be? When this country is falling to rubble on its own. Bin Laden may have been the catalyst with 9-11, but it was only the brick at the corner of this building. Our own weight is what is bring the rest of the building down.
Hey Dog, good morning!Check out this op-ed piece about how history repeats itself.(decline of the empire)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/opinion/30harris.html?th&emc=th
More truth about the repugs.From a reputable source.(the nasty emails)Not terribly x-rated, but explicit enough that I don’t want to paste it, so here’s the link:
http://abcnews.go.com/images/WNT/02-02-03b.pdf
More GOP hypocrisy, from th A.P.:
Foley, as chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus, had introduced legislation in July to protect children from exploitation by adults over the Internet. He also sponsored other legislation designed to protect minors from abuse and neglect.
“We track library books better than we do sexual predators,” Foley has said
Nothing is more ironic and hypocritical than politicans and politics.
Mark Foley Good Riddance, Scum Bag!
I tell ya, I’m just so sick of all this, I’m ready to divide the US in half, and pick up and move. Give us the name the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and our constitution as written by the forefathers, and you nuts can create your Jesusland and use the bible as your constitution.
So shall we divide it east/west or north/south?
The time is now to decide which country you want to live in. I’ve had it!
Tell you what Mom, just give us California, run all the nut jobs out of here, and you all can have the rest of the continent.As us Californians like to say, if the Pilgrims had landed on the west coast, the east would have never been discovered.
All kidding aside, Dr. James Dobson has thrown around the idea of a “Christian Right” (I really don’t like that term)party. I’d join it in a heartbeat. It would be interesting to see the kind of representation it would get in Congress.
So, does anybody know if the repugs have any kind of plan?No, not stay the course.A REAL PLAN?
California doesn’t have enough room for you. Although I bet if it came down to it, most of the diehard xians will stay in the more liberal place (ya know, so they can view porn and have affairs)…
Well there are about 36,000,000 Californians. And everyone seems to think Christians are in such a minority then there must be room for us all here.If you’ve experienced unfair treatment or judgement by someone who claims to be a Christian, I apologize. The two problems our country faces with pornography and extra-marital affairs are something people face in all walks of life. Christians are immune and certainly not perfect. I know I am far from it.I know many Christians tend to do more harm than good for the faith with there words and there actions. I really try and concentrate my walk with the Lord verses.-Let those of you without sin cast the first stone.-Love your neighbor as yourself.But again, I’m not perfect so don’t always manage to live up to that.
Sorry that should have been Christians are NOT immune!!
I agree with you KIA. Most christians are great people.
But the extremist of that religion, just like in Islam can tarnish the reputation.
So a conservative Republican who was anti-gay happens to resign because it’s found out he likes little boys. Even his fellow conservative Republicans knew about his desire to be a pederast and did nothing.
Thank goodness we have those Republicans to defend family values. Imagine if Clinton was accused of something sexual involving a minor, the Congress would probably try to impeach him.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/09/house-gop-leadership-knew-about-foley.html
I’ve been reading the news about REPUBLICAN Rep. Mark Foley this morning. Now isn’t that an interesting development? A 6-term republican Represenitave turns out to be a gay pedofile. The real shocker is, the republican leadership has known about it for nearly a year, maybe longer. Why didn’t they do something about it? This guy is a sexual preditor. If a Democratic Represenitave had been caught hitting on little boys, the repugs would be howling for blood. Where’s the outrage?
XXX, look at my post above, it has a link to one of the emails.And we don’t want to hear another damn thing about Bill and Monica.Consenting adults engaged in legal sexual activity, even if it was covert, ummmm, I mean under the table.
I just happened to be channel surfing last night. I was watching Cspan live when Nancy Pelosi caught the entire repbulican population of the House with their pants down on this. You could see their fear!
So what say you republicans? It aint just one pervert here. ANY republican in the House could have spoken up and exposed this pervert. They have know about it nearly a year. Yet not only did they keep the dirty little secret. They went to great lengths to do so.
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And JR, yes. I read the reports from the associated press and ABC news, that the GOP leadership has known what their predatory buddy was doing all along. And those sources are not paulfrossel typical unreliable sources.
Tracy,
I don’t think we shall be hearing from Republican shill Paul Rosell today.
I think most of our friends on the right are going to be rather busy trying to dance around this scandal. We may hear little from them for awhile!
I may need GMC or some other legal type to help us with this.
If Florida Republican representative Foley has engaged in the solicitation of a minor in the 11 months that the Republican leadership knew that he was prone to do so, wouldn’t any of them be considered accessories to the crime? And for his earlier crimes, wouldn’t anyone who knew about them that did not report them be considered accessories after the fact?
More on a local level; just how much did Kansas Republican representatives Ryun and Tiahrt know and when did they know it?
Why hasn’t Foley been arrested for soliciting a minor?
J R,
Good point. I’m looking for some fascists to beat into a bloody rhetorical pulp, given their recent destruction of habeus corpus. But none are here to be found. And Joe Williams doesn’t count–he can’t spell ‘fascist’.
The current shitstorm engulfing the GOP is actually rather comforting. Even a fascist pretender occupying the American Presidency has to deal with reality every once in a while.
Vote Democratic–save America from the soft tyranny of the Bush Administration.
And remember: Osama, Katrina, Iraq.
CF, you forgot gas prices.Vote Democratic–save America’s children from the filthy pervert republicans who would rather protect one of their own than your children.
IOKIYAR
XXX,
Indeed. And here’s the email exchange between Representative Foley and his 16-year old former page.
Republican Congressmen protected one of their own who was grooming young men for sexual abuse. That’s no ‘conspiracy theory.’ That’s how Republicans operate: in secret and in the dark.
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Maf54 (7:46:33 PM): did any girl give you a haand job this weekend
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:38 PM): lol no
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:40 PM): im single right now
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:57 PM): my last gf and i broke up a few weeks agi
Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): are you
Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): good so your getting horny
Xxxxxxxxx (7:47:29 PM): lol…a bit
Maf54 (7:48:00 PM): did you spank it this weekend yourself
Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:04 PM): no
Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:16 PM): been too tired and too busy
Maf54 (7:48:33 PM): wow…
Maf54 (7:48:34 PM): i am never to busy haha
Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:51 PM): haha
Maf54 (7:50:02 PM): or tired..helps me sleep………………….Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:57 PM): i dont do it very often normally though
Maf54 (7:51:11 PM): why not
Maf54 (7:51:22 PM): at your age seems like it would be daily
Xxxxxxxxx (7:51:57 PM): not me
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:01 PM): im not a horn dog
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:07 PM): maybe 2 or 3 times a week
Maf54 (7:52:20 PM): thats a good number
Maf54 (7:52:27 PM): in the shower
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:36 PM): actually usually i dont do it in the shower
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:42 PM): just cause i shower in the morning
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:47 PM): and quickly
Maf54 (7:52:50 PM): in the bed
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:59 PM): i get up at 530 and am outta the house by 610
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:03 PM): eh ya
Maf54 (7:53:24 PM): on your back
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:30 PM): no face down
Maf54 (7:53:32 PM): love details
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:34 PM): lol
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:36 PM): i see that
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:37 PM): lol
Maf54 (7:53:39 PM): really
Maf54 (7:53:54 PM): do you really do it face down
Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:03 PM): ya
Goodnight what a perv!
The revelation of these emails is a start.
The very instant there was wind of this, Foley resigned.
I think we need to see this guys computer. I wonder if he cleared his House office out before there was a chance for investigators to go through it.
I think we are entitled to see the emails and communications records between Foley and other Republican members of the House as well.
The saying about anti-social personalities is really true “Half are in prison and the other half are holding political office”.
You libs have it all wrong. The Republican leadership knew all about it and were taking steps to correct the situation. They told Foley to quit it. What were they supposed to do? Make a federal case out of a little dirty talk among guys?
At least Bill Clinton was with a legal adult female intern. Foley was messing with a minor male page.
A sin is a sin – isn’t it Religious Righties?
I don’t see the condemnation from the Republicans against Foley. Why did they not do something back in 2005 when they first learned of this behavior?
Why sweep it under the rug? Those complacent in their cover up should be held accountable also.
Sounds like the Repubs deal with this issue much the same way the Catholic Church has. A pervert is a pervert, no matter how much money or social position they have, they should all be treated the same way. Just telling someone to “stop it” isn’t enough, they should be put away.
Barney Frank, HYPOCRITES, Barney freaking Frank!!!
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
So the Republican leaderhip told Foley to quit it? That’s all? I hope they didn’t break their backs doing so much.
Why not bring him before the whole group and condemn him in public?
Sounds like a cover-up to me.
Barney Frank is openly gay and does not go around spouting his superiority over others. And do you have proof that Barney Frank has targeted minors?
“Opposition to it was the sincerely held covenant belief of almost every race of people on the earth, until the 20th Century. All through the Bible, and all through history after the closing of the canon of scripture, we find that interracial marriage was considered aberrant by almost every race and culture on earth… So it is evident that a fair and just study of history shows that modern integrationism (actually neo-babelism) is really just a part of the great and slow suicide of man and the destruction of national character and culture designed to blend mankind into a sinful, borderless and saltless soup called The New World Order.” Michael Bunker
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Barney Frank was CAUGHT with a very young male prostitute. Of course, he is a jew and a leftist demorat AND he runs in my rotten homestate of taxachusetts so it didn’t matter! Heck, fat teddy left Mary JO to die horribly in that lake and he kept his sinecure ever since! HYPORITES!!!!
V.L.R.B!!
I think Teddy has company about leaving someone to die. You might want to check out George W.’s little brother – their nanny died in their front yard – a car rolled over her?
“What were they supposed to do? Make a federal case out of a little dirty talk among guys?”
The correct thing would have been a harsh warning, followed by a report to the Ethics Committee, especially considering Foley’s position on the Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus.
As for Barney Frank…(from Wikipedia)
(Sorry, I’m a little trigger happy today.)****In 1990, the House voted to reprimand Frank when it was revealed that Steve Gobie was running a prostitution business from Frank’s apartment. Frank had dismissed Gobie earlier that year after learning of Gobie’s activities.
The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. The House Ethics Committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he “reflected discredit upon the House” by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie’s parking tickets.
Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. This condemnation was not reflected in Frank’s district, where he won re-election in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.
lucee, that was Marvin Bush’s nanny who was found pinned between a car and a shed. Apparently there was a small mention of it in the Washington Post about it, but her (the nanny’s) son refused to comment. Is that a surprise? Uh, no.
A sin is a sin – isn’t it Religious Righties?
To answer your question, in God’s eyes, Yes. It’s liberals that want to point fingers – “That’s the bad guy.”Is this deal with Foley disgusting, absolutely.Am I glad he resigned, Yes I am.Should he be found to have actually committed a sexual act with a child should he is casterated or put to death. Yes in my opinion (as should all sex offenders.)To suggest however that the Republican party seems to have a monopoly on misbehavior however is extremely short sighted and ridiculous.And as I posted in the other thread last night, I’m not buying for a second that all of the Congress and Senate knew or at least heard whisperings of this. Republicans or Democrats, these people are co-workers. Think about your workplace. If something like this was going on don’t you think word would spread like wildfire?
Nice try Kia.
You get credit for TRYING. The rest of the right is VERY quiet today!
Sure there might have been RUMORS about Foley throughout the entire House of Representatives. But responsible people don’t act on rumors. There is also the matter of liablilty.
The Eagle needs to do an in depth thread to more fully explain what is going on here.This is what I understand so far.You see Kia, one of the young men Foley solicited was a page for a representative Alexander, another Republican. This page told Alexander what was going on with Foley. Alexander shared this information with his party leaders in the house…. And NO ONE ELSE. All that was set into motion 11 months ago.
SO while Democrats in the House might have had some inkling that Foley was …….a miscreant. They did not have what the Republicans had. The Republicans had a man with the testimony of a witness.
You cannot defend the indefensible or enable a potential sex criminal through lack of action as Alexander and the leaders of his party did without inviting the charge of complicity.
Foley is gone and rightly so. Certainly Alexander should be very carefully looked at and his contacts with his own party leaders investigated. At some point, party loyalty HAS to give way to decency.
JR! Did the dems do the right thing in regards to fat teddy kennedy? Stop pretending that the dems have any moral high ground because they don’t. Both parties are corrupt and evil and our entire system is in need of a great cleansing. La Revolucion Blanco is the only answer. So, either folow or stay the hell out of way. Just watch your negro ball sports on the jew tube and WE will let you all know when the REVOLUCION is over!
V.L.R.B!!
Ian Santiago,
There are times when you talk sense, but at the moment I’m sick of your racist bullshit. Why don’t you just admit that you crave sexual humiliation by black and jewish men? Everybody knows it. And if you get it out in the open, you’ll feel a lot better.
More to the point, senior Republican leadership in the House knew about Foley for a long time and worked to actively protect him and cover up the facts.
Your equivalence between Democrats and Republicans is completely phony. The Republicans are fascist (not that this bothers Ian Santiago) pigfuckers who this week chose to wipe their collective ass with the Constitution and Habeas Corpus. There’s no comparable offense that can be imputed to the modern Democratic Party. Nothing.
Tissue Alert.
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/09/30/184512.php
Good post Heckler.
Lest we forget……
Funny how people like Ian have to degrade people based on the color of their skin or the religion they choose. Think it could be because he doesn’t have enough active gray matter or physical ability to achieve anything to prove he is superior?
Liberals are not the only ones to point fingers. Alot of Religious Rightie Republicans have pointed alot of fingers. They still point fingers at Bill Clinton and he had sex with a consenting legal adult female!
So why do you, Mr Kia, always defend the Republicans? They are just as guilty, just as pervert but yet you and the rest of the Republicans will defend each of them every time.
Why is that?
I most certainly haven’t defended Foley or Republicans in this situation. I have said I don’t believe Democrats were in the dark on this as well, using a workplace as an example.And Clinton’s problem wasn’t the consensual sex or whatever it was. It was the lying under oath in a Federal Case and encouraging a witness to do the same.
A touching link Heckler truly. But I am sorry to call “re-direct” on you. YES this is the “open”. But you pandered to emotion to divert from the topic at hand.
lucee? I’ve not seen that nic before. Welcome to posting.
As you read lucee, Kia is to be congratulated. He is new here as well. He dared to try and defend his party when many longer in this forum Republicans bailed. I have some hope for Kia.
Ian?
I’ve said before that you defy my conceptions. I never figured a racist could be intelligent. Why not stick with the latter and give us less of the former?
Ann Arbor police found out that unpopular GOP loser wasn’t beaten up by “liberal thugs” as a conservative Republican website claims. No, in fact the unpopular GOP loser was beaten up by fellow unpopular GOP losers.
http://www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/base/news-19/115959860215660.xml&coll=2
It’s like the GOP has something pathological where they must constantly create fictional enemies.
I suppose when your rhetoric is the same as Al Qaeda’s you don’t have any enemies.
http://breakingnews.redstate.com/blogs/paulseale/2006/sep/30/al_qaeda_number_two_man_mimics_democrat_talking_points_by_calling_bush_liar_and_a_failure
I don’t mean to do a re-direct myself. But this is the “open”.
Our forum has had 4 “meetups”. The last three were within weeks of each other. The last was in June.
Since then, we have MANY new interesting posters. I know that some of us old regulars enjoy the meetups, so I wanted to test the waters for a meetup sometime in the next few weeks.
SO what say you bloggers? Anyone in the mood for good food and the possibility of bloodshed? You can weigh in here along with your other comments. Just indicate an interest in a meetup if you have one.
Machinists reject Bombardier contract offer, vote to strike…
Let them strike, let them strike, let them strike!
And let Bombardier fire every single one of them and replace them with non-union workers!
I hope Tony wants to fly in one of those plans made with cheap, inexperienced labor.
Something we can agree on.I will hire questionable immigration status individuals (read as Mexicans) to cut my lawn, clean my pool and wash my car.Not build an airplane I’m going to fly in.
I am thinking that is not really Tony. If it is, I have seriously misjudged him.
I used to make aircraft. I quit before getting fired because safety was being sacrificed for production.
Good news, in Afghanistan they have a court system where they charge people with crimes and give them trials, even to Americans who kidnap and torture Afghanis.
http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=160081
Wouldn’t it be great if we had that system of justice in America?
Jr,Tony has made a couple of other anti-union statements.
Dennis Hastert told the gay pedophile hands off, what more should the leadership have done?
No raises in 4 yrs. I think it’s about time Bombardier workers got a raise. They have lost groud due to inflation, and they want them to pay higher ins. premiums?
Republicans hounded Bill Clinton for 8 yeas (and ever since) basically because he had sex with an intern. They never mention the lying under oath when they want to put him down – it is always the sex thing. As if Republicans have never lied under oath either – right?
It is probably true that both Democrats and Republicans knew about Foley but when the Democrats are not even allowed into the locked rooms of the Republicans when they change poliicies – do you really think the Republicans would have listened to the Democrats about Foley? Highly unlikely.
Maybe the Democrats were waiting for the truth to come out. And the truth always comes out at some point.
Where is the outrage from the Religious Right about Foley? I’ve not heard from them. And where is Jeb Bush’s comment? I understand that Foley sent him his resignation letter – why isn’t he speaking to this?
Interesting, huh?
The Religious Reich is upset with Foley’s pedophilia just as much as they were upset about Tom Delay’s support for forced abortions. I certainly hope you aren’t thinking the Religious Reich is led by their high standards of morality and their deep adherence to Christian ideals.
I think that’s why conservatives hate Christians like Jimmy Carter. Carter advocated for peace and builds homes for the homeless. Bush cuts programs for the poor and drops bombs on civilians. There isn’t much money in charity work where the money and efforts actually benefit the poor.
Maybe I’m just picky, but shouldn’t the Speaker of the House know the words to the National Anthem?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2w9EAdLMWA&mode=related&search=
Here’s how many understood him to announce the singing of it:
“I would ask all of you to join us this evening in starting out singing the Star Spaniel Banner.”
And here’s one person’s take on the words Hastert chose to use:
“Oh say can you seeBy the star sp-early lightOh the ramparts we hailedAt the twilight’s last gleaming?Whose broad stripes and bright starsThrough the perilous tidesFor the ramparts we watchedWere so gallantly streaming.And the rockets red glare,The bombs bursting in airGave proof through the nightThat our flag was still thereOh say does that star spangled banner yet waveFor the land of the free and the home of brave.”
What do YOU think?
“Dennis Hastert told the gay pedophile hands off, what more should the leadership have done?”
Hastert should have removed him from a position of trust and taken the information to the authorities. Instead he chose to cover it up.
Well Gee, I guess the Democrats didn’t know about the republican child-molesting prev Foley.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/washington/01cnd-cong.html?hp&ex=1159761600&en=e68fa3cf333f98eb&ei=5094&partner=homepage
IT’S CLINTON’S FAULT!
It kind of makes one wonder how many other republicans in Congress are trying to get into little boys pants. Especially those who tried to cover it up.
“Rep. Reynolds’ NRCC received $100,000 from disgraced Rep. Foley in July, after he learned about Foley’s inappropriate emails with minors.
As reported yesterday, Reynolds declined to report the inappropriate emails to authorities or act on them — now we may know why.”
I wonder how long Foley has been in Congress? Especially, was he there for the Clinton impeachment? I wonder what he said THEN about morality?
This is the problem when we have lop-sided govenrment. We need the a balance in power. that is why the Democrats need to take over either the House or the Senate. To stop all this monopoly of one party’s power.
And, where is George W. Bush on this Foley revelation? Have not heard one peep from that moral Christian man?
I’m surprised we haven’t seen Foley being interviewed by Chris Hanson’s “to catch a predator”.
HMM I wonder whos going to be on the
“TOP TEN CONSERVATIVE IDIOT” countdown this week.
C’mon, editors–Give us a Foley thread.
And another thread on pervert Repukes:
From “Jeff in Milwaukee’s Blog–”
“Bear in mind that this list includes only proven cases of sexual misconduct against against Members of Congress. Old-fashioned corruption or, say, getting 2,700 American troops killed in Iraq for no damned good reason, does not make the list. If I’ve left out any of your favorites, please post them.
Robert Barr (R-GA) A co-author of the “Defense of Marriage Act,” Barr has been married three times and sued more than once for non-payment of child support. During his third married, was photographed licking whipped cream off strippers at an inaugural party.
Robert Bauman (R-MD) – A staunch moralist, notorious anti-gay activist, and four-term member of Congress, Bauman surprised his constituents by being arrested for soliciting sex from a sixteen-year-old boy.
Jim Bunn (R-OR) – After winning election to Congress in 1994 with the help of the Christian Coalition, Bunn then divorced his wife (and mother of this five children), and then married his mistress, giving her a job as his Chief of Staff and a nearly six-figure salary to boot.
Dan Burton (R-IN) – Called Bill Clinton a “scumbag” for his marital infidelities, before voters learned that Burton had himself fathered a child out of wedlock in the early 1980’s. The mother was given a no-work job on Burton’s campaign payroll.
Ken Calvert (R-CA) A family values advocate elected with the help of the Christian Coalition, he’s been sued for alimony payments by his ex-wife and was arrested for soliciting a prostitute – specifically the arresting officer caught Calvert in the act of receiving oral sex in his parked car.
Charles Canaday (R-FL) One of the House Impeachment managers while on the House Judiciary Committee, Canaday engaged in an adulterous affair with a married woman, breaking up her marriage. Canaday has since been appointed to the Florida Court of Appeals by Jeb Bush.
Helen Chenowith (R-ID) – Said on record that “personal conduct and integrity do matter” with regard to Bill Clinton’s sex life, but was somewhat more lenient when she admitted in 1998 that she had been engaged in a long-term extra-martial affair with a married man.
Dan Crane (R-IL) A rising star of the New Right, Crane was censured by the House in 1983 for having sex with a seventeen-year-old page. It marked the first and only time a member has been censured for sexual indiscretion. Some members have the House wanted to expel Crane, but Henry Hyde (R-IL) rose to his defense.
Duke Cunningham (R-CA) – You thought it was just about money? Think again. As many as a half dozen Republican lawmakers have been implicated in receiving the services of prostitutes hired by the contractors who bought off Duke Cunningham. An FBI investigation is ongoing.
Thomas Evans (R-IN) Served three terms in the House, but was defeated after he was linked to lobbyist Paula Parkinson, a young woman who admitted that her lobbying technique was limited to having sex with just about anybody who asked.
Newt Gingrich – (R-GA) Received oral sex from mistress Anne Manning in a parked car within sight of his own children. Married three times, with the first two marriages ending because of Gingrich’s infidelity.
Tim Hutchinson (R-AK) A Baptist minister and vociferous critic of Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky affair, Hutchinson was simultaneously having an affair with one of this staffers. Hutchinson divorced his wife of 29 years to marry his mistress,
Henry Hyde (R-IL) Another of the Republicans who took Bill Clinton to task for having an extramarital affair, it was later learned that Hyde himself had been engaged in a long-term affair – which Hyde called a “youthful indiscretion” even through he was over forty at the time.
Bob Livingston (R-LA) Briefly the Speaker of the House after Newt Gingrich’s resignation, Livingston was caught up in Larry Flynt’s “dragnet” of Republican sexual indiscretions and resigned himself before stories of his marital infidelities were published.
Donald Lukens (R-OH) Was caught by a Columbus, OH television news crew meeting with the mother of the teenaged girl with whom he’d been having sex. Lukens was convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a minor but refused to resign his seat in Congress. Finally resigned after he was caught groping a Capitol Building elevator operator.
Sue Myrick (R-NC) A self-described “devout Christian,” Myrick admitted that she had an extramarital affair that lead to the break-up of her husband’s first marriage. When peppered with questions about the affair during a radio call-in show, Myrick stormed out of the studio saying, “I don’t have to put up with this shit.”
Robert Packwood (R-OR) One of the most notorious serial gropers in the history of the United State Congress, Packwood resigned his seat after dozens of women came forward saying that they had been molested by Packwood, some of them in elevators in the Capitol Building.
John Peterson (R-PA) Has been accused of sexual harassment (including fondling and forced kissing) by six women, including Capitol Hill lobbyists and House Interns. In the 2004 Election, Peterson was re-elected without opposition.
Don Shorewood (R-PA) – A staunch supporter of family values, Shorewood, a four-term member of the House of Representatives, admitted to a five year affair with a woman who is not quite old enough to be his daughter (she’s thirty-five years younger). His admission came after he settled a lawsuit with his former mistress, who accused Shorewood of physical abuse.
John Schmitz (R-CA) A member of Congress and member of the John Birch Society (who eventually kicked him out for his “extremism”), Schmitz fathered a child out of wedlock. Schmitz is also the father of Mary Kay Letourneau, the teacher who was convicted of statutory rape for having sex with one of her students.
Ed Schrock (R-VA) Another vociferous opponent of gay rights and gays in the military who, it turns out, is gay himself. Schrock declined to seek a third term in the House when audiotapes of his voice on a gay-sex chat line were make public.
Strom Thrumond (R-SC) Nicknamed “The Sperminator” by aides for his pursuit of female staffers and lobbyists, Thurmond fathered a child out of wedlock with his family’s African-American maid – while Thurmond himself was a staunch segregationist.
J.C. Watts (R-OK) – A winner of the Christian Coalition “Friends of the Family Award,” it was later disclosed that Watts has two children fathered out of wedlock with two different women while serving as a Youth Minister in Oklahoma.”
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Devastating Capn!
I join again the call for a Foley thread.
I don’t wish to re-direct, but I would like to know if any of our newer bloggers are interested in a fall “meet up”. The weather has been summerish into fall (global warming?) and we have many new posters since the last meet up more than 3 months ago.Anybody interested?
JR:I absolutely believe its time for another.It’s starting to get a little deep around here, and I for one would like to hear from Hank more about how Nathan’s doing.
Good listing capn – says a lot about the “holier-than-thou” Republicans.