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	<title>Comments on: Making America safe from . . . Willie Nelson?</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74398</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, also, I got a good chuckle out of the guy who kept posting about his &quot;white nationalist&quot; beliefs, hoping to elicit a response from the other posters, and then quit posting when nobody took the bait.Off to another thread on the internal network to search for cyber-conflict, no doubt. Typical. Kind of sad though, really...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, also, I got a good chuckle out of the guy who kept posting about his &#8220;white nationalist&#8221; beliefs, hoping to elicit a response from the other posters, and then quit posting when nobody took the bait.Off to another thread on the internal network to search for cyber-conflict, no doubt. Typical. Kind of sad though, really&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74397</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to make a couple points that came to mind, reading these posts.1.) The notion that Willie Nelson shouldn&#039;t get special treatment;I assume this is in reference to the fact that he only was charged with misdemeanor posession, despite the fact that he clearly was in posession of felony &quot;dealer&quot; amounts.

Let&#039;s look at this logically though. The reason for the differing penalties, determined by amount (greater than an ounce being felony), is to target dealers, giving them a harsher penalty. In this case however, despite the amount, the offender, Mr. Nelson, is CLEARLY not a drug dealer. Everyone knows this. So, despite the large quantity (1.5 lbs), it was most definitely intended for personal use. Therefore the penalty is fair.

2.) The notion that pot should be legalized, but the gov. should &quot;tax the shit out of it.&quot; If you legalize marijuana, then make it outrageously expensive, you&#039;ve solved NOTHING. A black market will still exist for the drug, where it will be sold for lower prices. Much like there is an illegal cigarette trade, between states, where the cancer-sticks are smuggled over state lines to be sold, illegally, and a marginally more afordable price. Legalizing pot, and then taxing it, solves nothing. I think the best option would be simply to decriminalize it. Still technically illegal, but posession only being a civil infraction (like a traffic ticket) rather than a misdemeanor. In other words, keep it illegal, but drastically lower the penalties. I think a $20 ticket would be much more appropriate then jail time and $thousands in legal costs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to make a couple points that came to mind, reading these posts.1.) The notion that Willie Nelson shouldn&#8217;t get special treatment;I assume this is in reference to the fact that he only was charged with misdemeanor posession, despite the fact that he clearly was in posession of felony &#8220;dealer&#8221; amounts.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at this logically though. The reason for the differing penalties, determined by amount (greater than an ounce being felony), is to target dealers, giving them a harsher penalty. In this case however, despite the amount, the offender, Mr. Nelson, is CLEARLY not a drug dealer. Everyone knows this. So, despite the large quantity (1.5 lbs), it was most definitely intended for personal use. Therefore the penalty is fair.</p>
<p>2.) The notion that pot should be legalized, but the gov. should &#8220;tax the shit out of it.&#8221; If you legalize marijuana, then make it outrageously expensive, you&#8217;ve solved NOTHING. A black market will still exist for the drug, where it will be sold for lower prices. Much like there is an illegal cigarette trade, between states, where the cancer-sticks are smuggled over state lines to be sold, illegally, and a marginally more afordable price. Legalizing pot, and then taxing it, solves nothing. I think the best option would be simply to decriminalize it. Still technically illegal, but posession only being a civil infraction (like a traffic ticket) rather than a misdemeanor. In other words, keep it illegal, but drastically lower the penalties. I think a $20 ticket would be much more appropriate then jail time and $thousands in legal costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74396</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does a married woman and a tornado have in common?

In the beginning there&#039;s a lot of suckin and blowin, but in the end you ain&#039;t left with a house.

-Willie Nelson joke.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does a married woman and a tornado have in common?</p>
<p>In the beginning there&#8217;s a lot of suckin and blowin, but in the end you ain&#8217;t left with a house.</p>
<p>-Willie Nelson joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Caruso</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74395</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whig, it was Jimson (locoweed)weed that I was referring to, not pot. That&#039;s a trip no one wants to take.Rage, withdrawing from pot is pretty uncomfortable when the person is used to smoking everyday. You&#039;re right. I had to go without sugar, carbs, and caffeine for 48 hrs and I was pretty miserable. I think our body gets used to cetain substances if we constantly flood our selves with it and it can feel like hell when it stops. I don&#039;t think I could get through the day without my Dr Pepper once or twice a day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whig, it was Jimson (locoweed)weed that I was referring to, not pot. That&#8217;s a trip no one wants to take.Rage, withdrawing from pot is pretty uncomfortable when the person is used to smoking everyday. You&#8217;re right. I had to go without sugar, carbs, and caffeine for 48 hrs and I was pretty miserable. I think our body gets used to cetain substances if we constantly flood our selves with it and it can feel like hell when it stops. I don&#8217;t think I could get through the day without my Dr Pepper once or twice a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74394</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ahh Haa! Caught you, Steven Davis!&quot;

I accept being busted.

&quot;Capn Bobby Stout done found me out.&quot;Jerry Hahn (I heard a rumor from a well-placed source that Jerry Hahn is returning to WSU to teach again.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ahh Haa! Caught you, Steven Davis!&#8221;</p>
<p>I accept being busted.</p>
<p>&#8220;Capn Bobby Stout done found me out.&#8221;Jerry Hahn (I heard a rumor from a well-placed source that Jerry Hahn is returning to WSU to teach again.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74393</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point, TRACY. Drinking is ubiquitous among the working class. Corporate America is okay with that. So long as you&#039;re not coming in drunk, they don&#039;t mind.

If they started policing people&#039;s off-duty drinking habits, people might start seeing how little the Drug War has to do with public health.

That, of course, will never happen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point, TRACY. Drinking is ubiquitous among the working class. Corporate America is okay with that. So long as you&#8217;re not coming in drunk, they don&#8217;t mind.</p>
<p>If they started policing people&#8217;s off-duty drinking habits, people might start seeing how little the Drug War has to do with public health.</p>
<p>That, of course, will never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74392</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t it similar to the immigrant situation?It&#039;s already here, it&#039;s not going away.We can&#039;t jail everybody who smokes dope, there&#039;d be no professionals left to guide the drunken blue collar workers! HA
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t it similar to the immigrant situation?It&#8217;s already here, it&#8217;s not going away.We can&#8217;t jail everybody who smokes dope, there&#8217;d be no professionals left to guide the drunken blue collar workers! HA</p>
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		<title>By: whig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74391</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without suggesting that people drive under the influence of cannabis, there are no statistics to show a heightened risk of vehicle accidents related to cannabis use.

This is not true at all of alcohol, where the data is unambiguous. One of the points that is being made in Colorado and other places is that if people are going to use something recreationally, whether it be cannabis or alcohol makes a difference. Cannabis is safer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without suggesting that people drive under the influence of cannabis, there are no statistics to show a heightened risk of vehicle accidents related to cannabis use.</p>
<p>This is not true at all of alcohol, where the data is unambiguous. One of the points that is being made in Colorado and other places is that if people are going to use something recreationally, whether it be cannabis or alcohol makes a difference. Cannabis is safer.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74390</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The problem with Kirk&#039;s thinking, those dope fiends don&#039;t stay home. They tend to drive. They can act out stupidly in the presence of others being under the influence.

If a parent is under the influence, slower reflex&#039;s, ability to think properly, how can they look after children.&quot;

Just substitute the word &quot;alcohol&quot; for the word &quot;dope&quot; and the same rings true....

And yet alcohol is not only legal, we advertise it on tv!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem with Kirk&#8217;s thinking, those dope fiends don&#8217;t stay home. They tend to drive. They can act out stupidly in the presence of others being under the influence.</p>
<p>If a parent is under the influence, slower reflex&#8217;s, ability to think properly, how can they look after children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just substitute the word &#8220;alcohol&#8221; for the word &#8220;dope&#8221; and the same rings true&#8230;.</p>
<p>And yet alcohol is not only legal, we advertise it on tv!</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74389</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, whig, it could be anything, but it usually means jimson weed. I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what Mary meant.

Mary, I suppose excessive use of anything pleasant or palliative (sugar, filet mignon) can produce the &#039;flooding&#039; effect in the hippocampus, and the attendant discomfort when the substance is omitted. I would maintain that the threshhold for dependence on marijuana must be higher than most people could physically or financially afford to reach, or the concept of marijuana withdrawal would not be even be controversial. I&#039;ve also noticed that some people are more prone to addiction than others, whatever the substance (the phrase &quot;addictive personality&quot; had been bantered about, but I suspect it&#039;s more physical).

But as I&#039;ve said, I&#039;ve never met a marijuana addict. A fairly modest claim, but an accurate one. I&#039;ve known more alcohol and cocaine addicts than I&#039;d like.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, whig, it could be anything, but it usually means jimson weed. I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what Mary meant.</p>
<p>Mary, I suppose excessive use of anything pleasant or palliative (sugar, filet mignon) can produce the &#8216;flooding&#8217; effect in the hippocampus, and the attendant discomfort when the substance is omitted. I would maintain that the threshhold for dependence on marijuana must be higher than most people could physically or financially afford to reach, or the concept of marijuana withdrawal would not be even be controversial. I&#8217;ve also noticed that some people are more prone to addiction than others, whatever the substance (the phrase &#8220;addictive personality&#8221; had been bantered about, but I suspect it&#8217;s more physical).</p>
<p>But as I&#8217;ve said, I&#8217;ve never met a marijuana addict. A fairly modest claim, but an accurate one. I&#8217;ve known more alcohol and cocaine addicts than I&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: whig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74388</link>
		<dc:creator>whig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Caruso, &quot;loco weed&quot; could be anything, and might not be cannabis. When somebody goes and takes Jimsonweed, for instance, it&#039;s gonna make them pretty messed up if not dead.

One of the side-effects of cannabis prohibition is that people use other things they can get their hands on more easily and alter their consciousness anyhow. I knew some people that used to huff inhalants, no matter that it is probably the worst thing you can do to yourself, but it&#039;s what they had access to.

Let people have cannabis under controls that maintain good quality and oversight, at least. Medical marijuana works very well. I would hope that nobody would oppose it, but obviously some do, for no rational reason.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Caruso, &#8220;loco weed&#8221; could be anything, and might not be cannabis. When somebody goes and takes Jimsonweed, for instance, it&#8217;s gonna make them pretty messed up if not dead.</p>
<p>One of the side-effects of cannabis prohibition is that people use other things they can get their hands on more easily and alter their consciousness anyhow. I knew some people that used to huff inhalants, no matter that it is probably the worst thing you can do to yourself, but it&#8217;s what they had access to.</p>
<p>Let people have cannabis under controls that maintain good quality and oversight, at least. Medical marijuana works very well. I would hope that nobody would oppose it, but obviously some do, for no rational reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Caruso</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74387</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having said that, I doubt that anything in moderation is that harmful, except the really addictive drugs like crack cocaine or meth. I&#039;d rather see someone stoned than drunk, because alcohol brings out the worst in most people. Afterall, it isn&#039;t called &quot;the great disinhibitor&quot; for nothing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having said that, I doubt that anything in moderation is that harmful, except the really addictive drugs like crack cocaine or meth. I&#8217;d rather see someone stoned than drunk, because alcohol brings out the worst in most people. Afterall, it isn&#8217;t called &#8220;the great disinhibitor&#8221; for nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Caruso</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74386</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage, I&#039;ve worked in drug and alcohol treatment and I&#039;ve met many who were addicted to pot. Just take it away from someone who has been smoking it everyday for 10 years and watch what happens...it ain&#039;t fun.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage, I&#8217;ve worked in drug and alcohol treatment and I&#8217;ve met many who were addicted to pot. Just take it away from someone who has been smoking it everyday for 10 years and watch what happens&#8230;it ain&#8217;t fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74385</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Also interesting, Mrage how you bashed Kirk Muse, who made a broad philosophical statement about personal freedom---and that was it! He never even mentioned kids (maybe he&#039;s a bachelor--or not). You don&#039;t know shit about him.

This, people, is the &quot;drug warrior&quot; mentality on display--they KNOW what you&#039;re thinking, and you&#039;re doing. It doesn&#039;t matter what you say (or do). If you question the Drug War, you&#039;re on drugs. If you refuse to wee-wee or submit a hair sample, it&#039;s because you&#039;re hiding your habit.

George Lundberg nailed it: Guilty until proved innocent.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Also interesting, Mrage how you bashed Kirk Muse, who made a broad philosophical statement about personal freedom&#8212;and that was it! He never even mentioned kids (maybe he&#8217;s a bachelor&#8211;or not). You don&#8217;t know shit about him.</p>
<p>This, people, is the &#8220;drug warrior&#8221; mentality on display&#8211;they KNOW what you&#8217;re thinking, and you&#8217;re doing. It doesn&#8217;t matter what you say (or do). If you question the Drug War, you&#8217;re on drugs. If you refuse to wee-wee or submit a hair sample, it&#8217;s because you&#8217;re hiding your habit.</p>
<p>George Lundberg nailed it: Guilty until proved innocent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74384</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrage,Interesting how, in your artificial little world, marjuana = all (illegal) drugs = addiction. I haven&#039;t (and wouldn&#039;t) argue that everyone who smokes marijuana or drinks alcohol or gambles or whatnot is a responsible parent.

But your broad-bush, binary-universe perceptions are not reality. Prescriptions medications can be quite as dangerous as socially disapproved drugs, and I am reminded that (just ONE example) that Carl Sagan was a &quot;pothead parent&quot; (care to ask Dorion Sagan if his father was an irresponsible dope fiend?). There are plenty of ordinary people who have tried the dreaded weed, and some are still using it.

My point was the personal responsibility demands abandoning stupid rationalizations. Inhaling burning particles ain&#039;t great for your lungs, and anyone else&#039;s. Unattended honey can kill an infant; responsible parents look out for their children. Smoking spleef may be good for limited types of concentration tasks, but I wouldn&#039;t recommend hitting the freeway.

Anything you put in your system has potentially negative consequences. An self-honest person will be wary of those, and take them into account, whether it&#039;s the effects of corporate &#039;speed&#039; (coffee) or other psychoactive substances.

And, BTW, I have yet to meet a marijuana &quot;addict.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrage,Interesting how, in your artificial little world, marjuana = all (illegal) drugs = addiction. I haven&#8217;t (and wouldn&#8217;t) argue that everyone who smokes marijuana or drinks alcohol or gambles or whatnot is a responsible parent.</p>
<p>But your broad-bush, binary-universe perceptions are not reality. Prescriptions medications can be quite as dangerous as socially disapproved drugs, and I am reminded that (just ONE example) that Carl Sagan was a &#8220;pothead parent&#8221; (care to ask Dorion Sagan if his father was an irresponsible dope fiend?). There are plenty of ordinary people who have tried the dreaded weed, and some are still using it.</p>
<p>My point was the personal responsibility demands abandoning stupid rationalizations. Inhaling burning particles ain&#8217;t great for your lungs, and anyone else&#8217;s. Unattended honey can kill an infant; responsible parents look out for their children. Smoking spleef may be good for limited types of concentration tasks, but I wouldn&#8217;t recommend hitting the freeway.</p>
<p>Anything you put in your system has potentially negative consequences. An self-honest person will be wary of those, and take them into account, whether it&#8217;s the effects of corporate &#8217;speed&#8217; (coffee) or other psychoactive substances.</p>
<p>And, BTW, I have yet to meet a marijuana &#8220;addict.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74383</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If pot causes memory loss why can practically any old hippy remember the words to every song from the 60&#039;s,&quot;

The answer is simple.  Each time we would hear the song we would remember one word.  After enough times ... well ... I know the entire lyrics of Alice&#039;s Restaurant!

;^)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If pot causes memory loss why can practically any old hippy remember the words to every song from the 60&#8217;s,&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer is simple.  Each time we would hear the song we would remember one word.  After enough times &#8230; well &#8230; I know the entire lyrics of Alice&#8217;s Restaurant!</p>
<p>;^)</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Caruso</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74382</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember years ago when I worked in treatment, we admitted two brothers who smoked locoweed, were they ever crazy! I think they both learned a pretty good lesson, one had to wear diapers and was in restraints (for his own well being) for two days. Now that stuff&#039;s some scary sh*t!Drug and alcohol abuse do a lot of damage in this country, if we could solve that problem, we&#039;d be a long way toward solving many other social problems as a result. Drug addicted parents are the worst, and there are so many today. I really worry about the generation coming up, when you consider some of the environments they&#039;re being raised in. Sad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember years ago when I worked in treatment, we admitted two brothers who smoked locoweed, were they ever crazy! I think they both learned a pretty good lesson, one had to wear diapers and was in restraints (for his own well being) for two days. Now that stuff&#8217;s some scary sh*t!Drug and alcohol abuse do a lot of damage in this country, if we could solve that problem, we&#8217;d be a long way toward solving many other social problems as a result. Drug addicted parents are the worst, and there are so many today. I really worry about the generation coming up, when you consider some of the environments they&#8217;re being raised in. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this,  decriminalize ALL drugs, tax them and the free market will prevail as it does so well in all other areas of the US economy. Note to Tracy and Vaughn, I too remember &quot;Alice&#039;s Restaurant&quot;. You would like John Prine&#039;s song &quot;Illegal Smile&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this,  decriminalize ALL drugs, tax them and the free market will prevail as it does so well in all other areas of the US economy. Note to Tracy and Vaughn, I too remember &#8220;Alice&#8217;s Restaurant&#8221;. You would like John Prine&#8217;s song &#8220;Illegal Smile&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage,As I understand it, ragweed does have fans- hunters argued that giant ragweed provided cover for game birds.Ditchweed has a few fans too- people who go out and harvest the free lower than low quality pot and sell it to kids who have no idea what they&#039;re buying.Unfortunately the hunting lobby prevailed, and we now have more-Achoo- ragweed than ever, and fewer game birds!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage,As I understand it, ragweed does have fans- hunters argued that giant ragweed provided cover for game birds.Ditchweed has a few fans too- people who go out and harvest the free lower than low quality pot and sell it to kids who have no idea what they&#8217;re buying.Unfortunately the hunting lobby prevailed, and we now have more-Achoo- ragweed than ever, and fewer game birds!</p>
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		<title>By: whig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74379</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sgt Stedanko:

Let me just say that not even a Dominionist Christian has been willing to stake a position against the sacramental use of cannabis.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2006/09/06/letter-to-christopher-ortiz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2006/09/06/letter-to-christopher-ortiz/&lt;/a&gt;

Let&#039;s see if anyone wants to pick that one up and run with it.
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<p>Let me just say that not even a Dominionist Christian has been willing to stake a position against the sacramental use of cannabis.</p>
<p><a href="http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2006/09/06/letter-to-christopher-ortiz/" rel="nofollow">http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2006/09/06/letter-to-christopher-ortiz/</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if anyone wants to pick that one up and run with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74378</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woman who blows pot smoke into a child&#039;s lungs is a criminal.

Forcing that child to use pot to alter behaviour, is a dumb bitch. She should lose that child forever. I wonder if her boyfriend or husband allowed that to happen. If so, he&#039;s just as guilty.  A friend didn&#039;t agree took her picture, so outraged. That was the right thing to do.

Potheads who smoke around children, is moronic? Do tell what your meaning?

Pothead parents are poor examples of parents.  Because of some knothead belief like Kirk Muse said, freedom is ingesting anything a body desires.

The problem with Kirk&#039;s thinking, those dope fiends don&#039;t stay home. They tend to drive. They can act out stupidly in the presence of others being under the influence.

If a parent is under the influence, slower reflex&#039;s, ability to think properly, how can they look after children.

When people get addicted by all the drugs their taking, who do they turn to. The gov to save them, and make a body, healthy and normal again.  But drugs alter mental abilities, so they argue how taking drugs isn&#039;t so bad.  Few admit their an addict. That&#039;s the first drug lie, they believe.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woman who blows pot smoke into a child&#8217;s lungs is a criminal.</p>
<p>Forcing that child to use pot to alter behaviour, is a dumb bitch. She should lose that child forever. I wonder if her boyfriend or husband allowed that to happen. If so, he&#8217;s just as guilty.  A friend didn&#8217;t agree took her picture, so outraged. That was the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Potheads who smoke around children, is moronic? Do tell what your meaning?</p>
<p>Pothead parents are poor examples of parents.  Because of some knothead belief like Kirk Muse said, freedom is ingesting anything a body desires.</p>
<p>The problem with Kirk&#8217;s thinking, those dope fiends don&#8217;t stay home. They tend to drive. They can act out stupidly in the presence of others being under the influence.</p>
<p>If a parent is under the influence, slower reflex&#8217;s, ability to think properly, how can they look after children.</p>
<p>When people get addicted by all the drugs their taking, who do they turn to. The gov to save them, and make a body, healthy and normal again.  But drugs alter mental abilities, so they argue how taking drugs isn&#8217;t so bad.  Few admit their an addict. That&#8217;s the first drug lie, they believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74377</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed, I don&#039;t think either ditchweed OR ragweed have any fans. . .maybe a conservation/ecosystem argument could be made?? I dunno. No sane person could argue that anyone would smoke that shit--maybe a relative handful of dumb teenagers would experience a headache, and learn from it. There wouldn&#039;t even be the high that so worries people. Just a headache.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed, I don&#8217;t think either ditchweed OR ragweed have any fans. . .maybe a conservation/ecosystem argument could be made?? I dunno. No sane person could argue that anyone would smoke that shit&#8211;maybe a relative handful of dumb teenagers would experience a headache, and learn from it. There wouldn&#8217;t even be the high that so worries people. Just a headache.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pothead parenting&quot;?

Mrage, that&#039;s moronic on so many levels, I&#039;m not sure where to begin.

A woman who blows smoke into an infant&#039;s lungs is an idiot, period.
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<p>Mrage, that&#8217;s moronic on so many levels, I&#8217;m not sure where to begin.</p>
<p>A woman who blows smoke into an infant&#8217;s lungs is an idiot, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Muse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74375</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Muse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our drug laws show that the word freedom is just an empty word.

If adult citizens are not free to choose for themselves what goes intotheir own bodies--even in the privacy of their own homes, then the word freedom: is meaningless, empty and hallow.
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<p>If adult citizens are not free to choose for themselves what goes intotheir own bodies&#8211;even in the privacy of their own homes, then the word freedom: is meaningless, empty and hallow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/making_america_/#comment-74374</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pothead parenting at its finest. Too bad she didn&#039;t get the full five years and lose the child forever.

SAN FRANCISCO, California -- A Montana mother who allowed her 18-month-old baby daughter to inhale from a marijuana water pipe was properly convicted, but should not have to spend five years in jail, a U.S. appeals court ruled Friday.

Jessica Durham was photographed allowing her toddler Michala to suck from a marijuana water pipe, also known as a bong, in 2004 by a friend upset about the activity.

&quot;Ms. Durham allegedly remarked that smoking improved Michala&#039;s appetite and left Michala lethargic and mellow - a manner she found consistent with her own experience smoking marijuana,&quot; Judge Louis Pollak of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in summarizing the case.

In 2005, a lower court sentenced Durham to five years in prison for unlawful marijuana distribution. She appealed both the conviction and the sentence.

In its ruling Friday, a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit upheld the conviction but said the sentence exceeded the applicable federal law which calls for punishment of no more than two years in prison.
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<p>SAN FRANCISCO, California &#8212; A Montana mother who allowed her 18-month-old baby daughter to inhale from a marijuana water pipe was properly convicted, but should not have to spend five years in jail, a U.S. appeals court ruled Friday.</p>
<p>Jessica Durham was photographed allowing her toddler Michala to suck from a marijuana water pipe, also known as a bong, in 2004 by a friend upset about the activity.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ms. Durham allegedly remarked that smoking improved Michala&#8217;s appetite and left Michala lethargic and mellow &#8211; a manner she found consistent with her own experience smoking marijuana,&#8221; Judge Louis Pollak of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in summarizing the case.</p>
<p>In 2005, a lower court sentenced Durham to five years in prison for unlawful marijuana distribution. She appealed both the conviction and the sentence.</p>
<p>In its ruling Friday, a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit upheld the conviction but said the sentence exceeded the applicable federal law which calls for punishment of no more than two years in prison.</p>
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