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	<title>Comments on: Kline&#8217;s e-mail use already illegal?</title>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75171</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CapnTruth is not subject to majority vote.We live in a Republic, not a direct democracy.Our founders feared pure majority rule.I know that I am right.I dont care about the polls, when the polls are against me it just means we have not explained ourselves well enough.It does not mean that I am wrong.You liberals all said Reagan was wrong when he walked away from the Soviets in Iceland.The polls even showed that the public had doubts.A short time later, the Berlin Wall came crashing down.Leaders lead against the polls.A Democrat tries to figure out which way the crowd is moving, and runs to get in front of them.This is not leadership!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CapnTruth is not subject to majority vote.We live in a Republic, not a direct democracy.Our founders feared pure majority rule.I know that I am right.I dont care about the polls, when the polls are against me it just means we have not explained ourselves well enough.It does not mean that I am wrong.You liberals all said Reagan was wrong when he walked away from the Soviets in Iceland.The polls even showed that the public had doubts.A short time later, the Berlin Wall came crashing down.Leaders lead against the polls.A Democrat tries to figure out which way the crowd is moving, and runs to get in front of them.This is not leadership!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75170</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4) Deputy AG unqualified for his job, but an old abortion foe friend.

That makes him perfectly qualified for Kline.  His criminal record is a plus!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4) Deputy AG unqualified for his job, but an old abortion foe friend.</p>
<p>That makes him perfectly qualified for Kline.  His criminal record is a plus!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75169</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be:  &quot;there we heard it...&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be:  &#8220;there we heard it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75168</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were heard it, the final arbitration of truth: Nathan likes Kline!

Change the laws, people...

Oh my goodness...

Convinces me I was correct all along.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were heard it, the final arbitration of truth: Nathan likes Kline!</p>
<p>Change the laws, people&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh my goodness&#8230;</p>
<p>Convinces me I was correct all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75167</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes... look at Ben&#039;s progression.

Now we are talking about the release of confidential information.

They were email address Ben!

Social security numbers are already protected information so your little DMV scenario is void.

Confidential information is just that, confidential and is protected.

It is amazing the leap of logic people take.  We have gone from email address to confidential information...Social security numbers...etc...

Give me a break.

Kline checked on the legality of it.  If you don&#039;t like the law then change it.  We already know you don&#039;t like Kline, so you can stop trying to twist every situation that comes up to bash him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes&#8230; look at Ben&#8217;s progression.</p>
<p>Now we are talking about the release of confidential information.</p>
<p>They were email address Ben!</p>
<p>Social security numbers are already protected information so your little DMV scenario is void.</p>
<p>Confidential information is just that, confidential and is protected.</p>
<p>It is amazing the leap of logic people take.  We have gone from email address to confidential information&#8230;Social security numbers&#8230;etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Give me a break.</p>
<p>Kline checked on the legality of it.  If you don&#8217;t like the law then change it.  We already know you don&#8217;t like Kline, so you can stop trying to twist every situation that comes up to bash him.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75166</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Paul,

We still have these little problems of:

1) Nepotism:  Kline hired his nephew for a job that required driving; only problem was that nephew did NOT have a valid license.

2) Inquisitorial subpeonas to rummage through private health records due to the AG&#039;s opposition to abortion.

3) Tiller investigations for political payback.

4) Deputy AG unqualified for his job, but an old abortion foe friend.

I&#039;m sure you will find a way to defend this indefensible crap.  Please don&#039;t disappoint me.  I wish that I could have those blinders you seem to have.  Where did you get them?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Paul,</p>
<p>We still have these little problems of:</p>
<p>1) Nepotism:  Kline hired his nephew for a job that required driving; only problem was that nephew did NOT have a valid license.</p>
<p>2) Inquisitorial subpeonas to rummage through private health records due to the AG&#8217;s opposition to abortion.</p>
<p>3) Tiller investigations for political payback.</p>
<p>4) Deputy AG unqualified for his job, but an old abortion foe friend.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you will find a way to defend this indefensible crap.  Please don&#8217;t disappoint me.  I wish that I could have those blinders you seem to have.  Where did you get them?</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75165</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating, Paul, just fascinating . . .

Did you notice how Sebelius turned a ten point lead a few weeks ago over Barnett into a twenty point lead?

Did you see how Bush&#039;s dead cat bounce after the 9-11 speech quickly fell back to 40 percent approval after just a few days?

You had it all--the White House, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court--and you gave us historic high debt, a widening gap between rich and poor, a middle class losing earning power, an unnecessary and costly war in Iraq which we seem to be losing, and more and more outsourcing of jobs.

If you had any shame, you&#039;d be begging for forgiveness. If you had any sanity, you&#039;d demand an end to the war and the deficit spending.  If you had any sense, you&#039;d be voting Democratic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating, Paul, just fascinating . . .</p>
<p>Did you notice how Sebelius turned a ten point lead a few weeks ago over Barnett into a twenty point lead?</p>
<p>Did you see how Bush&#8217;s dead cat bounce after the 9-11 speech quickly fell back to 40 percent approval after just a few days?</p>
<p>You had it all&#8211;the White House, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court&#8211;and you gave us historic high debt, a widening gap between rich and poor, a middle class losing earning power, an unnecessary and costly war in Iraq which we seem to be losing, and more and more outsourcing of jobs.</p>
<p>If you had any shame, you&#8217;d be begging for forgiveness. If you had any sanity, you&#8217;d demand an end to the war and the deficit spending.  If you had any sense, you&#8217;d be voting Democratic.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75164</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capn, I think I earned GOLD for this one, read the last sentence:

25-4169aChapter 25.--ELECTIONSArticle 41.--ELECTION CAMPAIGN FINANCE; GENERAL25-4169a.   Use of public funds, vehicles, machinery, equipment and supplies and time of certain officers and employees to influence nomination or election of candidate prohibited; exceptions; misdemeanor. (a) No officer or employee of the state of Kansas, any county, any unified school district having 35,000 or more pupils regularly enrolled, any city of the first class or the board of public utilities of the city of Kansas City, Kansas, shall use or authorize the use of public funds or public vehicles, machinery, equipment or supplies of any such governmental agency or the time of any officer or employee of any such governmental agency, for which the officer or employee is compensated by such governmental agency, to expressly advocate the nomination, election or defeat of a clearly identified candidate to state office or local office. The provisions of this section prohibiting the use of time of any officer or employee for such purposes shall not apply to an incumbent officer campaigning for nomination or reelection to a succeeding term to such office or to members of the personal staff of any elected officer.

Tell me, if I or a member of my staff, as an elected official, can spend a portion of &quot;government&quot; time on politics, am I allowed to breath the &quot;government&quot; air, heated or air conditioned by the taxpayers? to sit in a &quot;government chair&quot;? to use a &quot;government phone&quot; or to use a government computer?This boob from out of state does not understand the law.----Ask Morrison, point blank: have you ever discussed your personal election matters, ordered yardsigns, organized volunteers, over a &quot;government phone&quot; ???Come on, this is a bunch of bologne!

READ IT AND WEEP:

The provisions of this section prohibiting the use of time of any officer or employee for such purposes shall not apply to an incumbent officer campaigning for nomination or reelection to a succeeding term to such office or to members of the personal staff of any elected officer

In other words, if Morrison used his office for his Johnson County political race, that would be ok.Chances are very high that Morrison has used his office to work on the AG race, in that case, Morrison BROKE THE LAW!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capn, I think I earned GOLD for this one, read the last sentence:</p>
<p>25-4169aChapter 25.&#8211;ELECTIONSArticle 41.&#8211;ELECTION CAMPAIGN FINANCE; GENERAL25-4169a.   Use of public funds, vehicles, machinery, equipment and supplies and time of certain officers and employees to influence nomination or election of candidate prohibited; exceptions; misdemeanor. (a) No officer or employee of the state of Kansas, any county, any unified school district having 35,000 or more pupils regularly enrolled, any city of the first class or the board of public utilities of the city of Kansas City, Kansas, shall use or authorize the use of public funds or public vehicles, machinery, equipment or supplies of any such governmental agency or the time of any officer or employee of any such governmental agency, for which the officer or employee is compensated by such governmental agency, to expressly advocate the nomination, election or defeat of a clearly identified candidate to state office or local office. The provisions of this section prohibiting the use of time of any officer or employee for such purposes shall not apply to an incumbent officer campaigning for nomination or reelection to a succeeding term to such office or to members of the personal staff of any elected officer.</p>
<p>Tell me, if I or a member of my staff, as an elected official, can spend a portion of &#8220;government&#8221; time on politics, am I allowed to breath the &#8220;government&#8221; air, heated or air conditioned by the taxpayers? to sit in a &#8220;government chair&#8221;? to use a &#8220;government phone&#8221; or to use a government computer?This boob from out of state does not understand the law.&#8212;-Ask Morrison, point blank: have you ever discussed your personal election matters, ordered yardsigns, organized volunteers, over a &#8220;government phone&#8221; ???Come on, this is a bunch of bologne!</p>
<p>READ IT AND WEEP:</p>
<p>The provisions of this section prohibiting the use of time of any officer or employee for such purposes shall not apply to an incumbent officer campaigning for nomination or reelection to a succeeding term to such office or to members of the personal staff of any elected officer</p>
<p>In other words, if Morrison used his office for his Johnson County political race, that would be ok.Chances are very high that Morrison has used his office to work on the AG race, in that case, Morrison BROKE THE LAW!!</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75163</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 04:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you earned your thirty pieces of silver again today, Paul.

Well done.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you earned your thirty pieces of silver again today, Paul.</p>
<p>Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75162</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 04:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are voter registration lists &quot;property of the government&quot; ---I know, from personal experience, that whenever I have purchased a voter registration list from Sedgwick County I had to sign a form saying that I would not put that list to any COMMERCIAL use. Political use was, of course, allowed, even encouraged.This is a huge stretch folks, thinking that Kline has done anything wrong here is ridiculous.As a general rule, anything that you can do over the phone you can do over email, as far as government is concerned.In other words, if you can get someones phone number during a work related call, you can later call that person concerning politics, or social matters, or anything else.Every elected official has done this, even the sainted Morrison.Take a breath folks.We dont need anyone who doesnt live in Kansas telling us what our laws say.Kansas also specifically allows certain salaried members of an elected officials staff to do some &quot;dual purpose&quot;  or politically oriented work. Our lawmakers rightly realized that they did not want to put any &quot;cop&quot; in charge of figuring out whether a particular phone call was political or administrative in nature. A hard thing to control, because you cant really control the speach or the intent of the people who contact government offices.I am sure this out of state &quot;expert&quot; is not aware of this Kansas law.If we can pay someone to do some political work, isnt collecting names the most basic of any political work they might do?And at least, with email, it can all be forwarded, so no taxpayer paper or taxpayer ink.The brochure that all candidates are mailed, from the Ethics Commission, clearly spells out what I have stated hear.----I just went to the State Fair, where I noticed at least 6 life size cut outs of Kathleen Sebelius, in front of various State of Kansas information booths.I bet the Eagle would beat up on Kline for such shamless campaigning, but Sebelius gets a pass!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are voter registration lists &#8220;property of the government&#8221; &#8212;I know, from personal experience, that whenever I have purchased a voter registration list from Sedgwick County I had to sign a form saying that I would not put that list to any COMMERCIAL use. Political use was, of course, allowed, even encouraged.This is a huge stretch folks, thinking that Kline has done anything wrong here is ridiculous.As a general rule, anything that you can do over the phone you can do over email, as far as government is concerned.In other words, if you can get someones phone number during a work related call, you can later call that person concerning politics, or social matters, or anything else.Every elected official has done this, even the sainted Morrison.Take a breath folks.We dont need anyone who doesnt live in Kansas telling us what our laws say.Kansas also specifically allows certain salaried members of an elected officials staff to do some &#8220;dual purpose&#8221;  or politically oriented work. Our lawmakers rightly realized that they did not want to put any &#8220;cop&#8221; in charge of figuring out whether a particular phone call was political or administrative in nature. A hard thing to control, because you cant really control the speach or the intent of the people who contact government offices.I am sure this out of state &#8220;expert&#8221; is not aware of this Kansas law.If we can pay someone to do some political work, isnt collecting names the most basic of any political work they might do?And at least, with email, it can all be forwarded, so no taxpayer paper or taxpayer ink.The brochure that all candidates are mailed, from the Ethics Commission, clearly spells out what I have stated hear.&#8212;-I just went to the State Fair, where I noticed at least 6 life size cut outs of Kathleen Sebelius, in front of various State of Kansas information booths.I bet the Eagle would beat up on Kline for such shamless campaigning, but Sebelius gets a pass!</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75161</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 04:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They appreciate their &#039;whipping boy&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They appreciate their &#8216;whipping boy&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75160</link>
		<dc:creator>XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 04:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether legal or not, Kline continues to be a laughingstock and bring ridicule on Kansas.

A Theory:One of the things that conservatives like about Kline is, they can point to him and say, &quot;He&#039;s a bigger jerk than I am&quot;.

If Kline would leave the abortion clinics and the teenage girls alone....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether legal or not, Kline continues to be a laughingstock and bring ridicule on Kansas.</p>
<p>A Theory:One of the things that conservatives like about Kline is, they can point to him and say, &#8220;He&#8217;s a bigger jerk than I am&#8221;.</p>
<p>If Kline would leave the abortion clinics and the teenage girls alone&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: gster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75159</link>
		<dc:creator>gster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether unethical or not, this has a really bad smell. I think it speaks much about Kline&#039;s integrity or lack thereof! Way too slimy!

I don&#039;t want him representing me in any way shape or form!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether unethical or not, this has a really bad smell. I think it speaks much about Kline&#8217;s integrity or lack thereof! Way too slimy!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want him representing me in any way shape or form!!</p>
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		<title>By: political_mom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75158</link>
		<dc:creator>political_mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess if the ethics board pre-approved this, maybe they should be looked into more carefully.  I can&#039;t for the life of me figure out how anyone could think that was ok to do.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess if the ethics board pre-approved this, maybe they should be looked into more carefully.  I can&#8217;t for the life of me figure out how anyone could think that was ok to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75157</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have morals?  Kline hired a criminal slanderer.  What kind of morals does THAT represent?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have morals?  Kline hired a criminal slanderer.  What kind of morals does THAT represent?</p>
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		<title>By: k.h.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75156</link>
		<dc:creator>k.h.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh please,you lefties find something wrong with all republican right wingers who have morals.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh please,you lefties find something wrong with all republican right wingers who have morals.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75155</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outlander,

When you are a public figure, the press is entitled to report on what you do, say, etc.  If that is unfair treatment, what would you suggest as an alternative.  Don&#039;t we let the public figure critique the press findings?  That happens all the time.

Not always, but sometimes - &quot;where there is smoke, there is fire&quot; - Kline supplies plenty of smoke, IMHO - which may have something to do with the press being so interested in him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outlander,</p>
<p>When you are a public figure, the press is entitled to report on what you do, say, etc.  If that is unfair treatment, what would you suggest as an alternative.  Don&#8217;t we let the public figure critique the press findings?  That happens all the time.</p>
<p>Not always, but sometimes &#8211; &#8220;where there is smoke, there is fire&#8221; &#8211; Kline supplies plenty of smoke, IMHO &#8211; which may have something to do with the press being so interested in him.</p>
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		<title>By: fedup</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75154</link>
		<dc:creator>fedup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there is so much negative media about Phill Kline because that is what this man generates?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there is so much negative media about Phill Kline because that is what this man generates?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Davis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75153</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

I would wonder if Outlander really hasn&#039;t made up his mind who he is going to vote for.  It may be that the pervasive appearance of impropriety is oaky with him if you have the right politics and religious leanings.

In fairness, I don&#039;t know anything about our friend outlander&#039;s behavior, but I have wondered just how disclosing he has been here today.
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<p>I would wonder if Outlander really hasn&#8217;t made up his mind who he is going to vote for.  It may be that the pervasive appearance of impropriety is oaky with him if you have the right politics and religious leanings.</p>
<p>In fairness, I don&#8217;t know anything about our friend outlander&#8217;s behavior, but I have wondered just how disclosing he has been here today.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75152</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t you get the memo Steven?  Consumers only deserve protection if they are on the &quot;right side&quot; according to Operation Rescue!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t you get the memo Steven?  Consumers only deserve protection if they are on the &#8220;right side&#8221; according to Operation Rescue!</p>
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		<title>By: Cr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75151</link>
		<dc:creator>Cr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So as I understand this, Phill Kline&#039;s campaign used an email listing gathered from the people that had contacted the AG office regarding concealed carry law info.

I wonder if anyone from that email listing that was contacted by the campaign has complained?

If they did, then wouldn&#039;t that bring on an investigation into the ethics question.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So as I understand this, Phill Kline&#8217;s campaign used an email listing gathered from the people that had contacted the AG office regarding concealed carry law info.</p>
<p>I wonder if anyone from that email listing that was contacted by the campaign has complained?</p>
<p>If they did, then wouldn&#8217;t that bring on an investigation into the ethics question.</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75150</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public Citizen founded by Ralph Nader:

&quot;Public Citizen is a national, nonprofit consumer advocacy organization founded in 1971 to represent consumer interests in Congress, the executive branch and the courts.&quot;We fight for openness and democratic accountability in government, for the right of consumers to seek redress in the courts; for clean, safe and sustainable energy sources; for social and economic justice in trade policies; for strong health, safety and environmental protections; and for safe, effective and affordable prescription drugs and health care.

&quot;We have six divisions and two state offices. To learn more about each of the divisions and Texas and California offices, click on the links below.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.citizen.org/about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.citizen.org/about/&lt;/a&gt;

These guys don&#039;t sound like bombing throwing anarchists to me.  I think it is okay to be concerned about counsumers -- that doesn&#039;t sound like a crime or treasonous behavior to me...-----
It is human nature, Steven to feel sympathy for someone being picked on unfairly. And you know, because I have mentioned it before, that it is just not this instance, but the cumulation of 5 negative Kline lead ins from the Eagle in about a week. When I see that kind of obsession, I wonder why.

The fact that organizations like &quot;Public Citizen&quot; are sticking their nose in our state&#039;s business is also a plus for Kline.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public Citizen founded by Ralph Nader:</p>
<p>&#8220;Public Citizen is a national, nonprofit consumer advocacy organization founded in 1971 to represent consumer interests in Congress, the executive branch and the courts.&#8221;We fight for openness and democratic accountability in government, for the right of consumers to seek redress in the courts; for clean, safe and sustainable energy sources; for social and economic justice in trade policies; for strong health, safety and environmental protections; and for safe, effective and affordable prescription drugs and health care.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have six divisions and two state offices. To learn more about each of the divisions and Texas and California offices, click on the links below.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.citizen.org/about/" rel="nofollow">http://www.citizen.org/about/</a></p>
<p>These guys don&#8217;t sound like bombing throwing anarchists to me.  I think it is okay to be concerned about counsumers &#8212; that doesn&#8217;t sound like a crime or treasonous behavior to me&#8230;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
It is human nature, Steven to feel sympathy for someone being picked on unfairly. And you know, because I have mentioned it before, that it is just not this instance, but the cumulation of 5 negative Kline lead ins from the Eagle in about a week. When I see that kind of obsession, I wonder why.</p>
<p>The fact that organizations like &#8220;Public Citizen&#8221; are sticking their nose in our state&#8217;s business is also a plus for Kline.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But of ocurse the disproportionate power in the AG&#039;s office is OK.  You can be a criminal but as long as you are in the office uoi can fish around in your enemies&#039; private lives.

So given this mantle, this responsibility to the public, it galls me when politician&#039;criminals play fast and loose with citizens private information.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But of ocurse the disproportionate power in the AG&#8217;s office is OK.  You can be a criminal but as long as you are in the office uoi can fish around in your enemies&#8217; private lives.</p>
<p>So given this mantle, this responsibility to the public, it galls me when politician&#8217;criminals play fast and loose with citizens private information.</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75148</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what has got me going is the disproportionate power of the press. You can be a moron and as long as you have a by line, you have a the power to infect public opinion with your own bias.

So given this mantle, this responsiblity to the public, it galls me when journalists play even a little fast and loose with the truth.  Even in a blog environment.-------
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what has got me going is the disproportionate power of the press. You can be a moron and as long as you have a by line, you have a the power to infect public opinion with your own bias.</p>
<p>So given this mantle, this responsiblity to the public, it galls me when journalists play even a little fast and loose with the truth.  Even in a blog environment.&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Wilkins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/09/klines_email_us/#comment-75147</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Wilkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder, does the governor use vacation time for the days she spends campaigning? Just wundering.
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