Jed,I guess this is YOUR way of saying that evolutionists were mistaken. Stop beating around the bush! I thought you were American? hahaha

Jed,I am indeed rolling on the floor bursting with side-splitting laughter!!! If what you say is true, about evolutionary thinking “evolving” then that would mean that such train of thought changed from a less perfect flawed state of being into a more perfect state of being wouldn’t it? So epistemologically speaking, you believe that TRUTH changes over time!!! So I guess when the scientific community thought the world was flat, the world was ACTUALLY flat; and when they figured out that the world was round, only then did the world BECOME oblong-spherical! Talk about absurdity indeed!

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html

I don’t know what creationists refer to as a “missing link” is that like the missing link between me and my parents? There are numerous examples of the development of the human species from Africanis to Sapien. I just don’t think creationists want to accept the scientfic data.

Evolutionists have fulfilled their burden of proof, the creationists have yet to develop a theory or a testable model. What do you say creationists, care to actually try to be scientific?

:Bangs head on desk:Burden of proof of evolution is on us. Yes, yes it is. Hence the EVIDENCE we have published for years and years. You know your logic, man, you know that we can never “prove” evolution because its an inductive argument. Just I can’t prove that all cats meow, but I can disprove “all cats meow” by finding a cat that barks. But even though I can’t prove it, I’m pretty damn sure that all cats meow (except the deaf ones, maybe). For evolution, all we can just strengthen it by adding more evidence to it.

Now, if you want to take something that is accepted and supported by EMPIRICAL evidence (yes, we’ve seen speciation in the lab), then the burden of proof is on YOU to disprove it. Problem is, every “dis-proof” that creationists come up with has been refuted and it just keeps getting parroted over and over.

As for the missing link, I have no clue. I’m not an anthropologist. I study the evolution of algae. Funny how people have no problem accepting the evolution of lower forms but get panicked only when it starts to hit too close to home.

Are you a monkey? No? Neither am I. Stop worrying about the implications of evolution and just leave science to people who have taken something past high-school biology.

Haha, the fundamentalists are not following the “true” teachings of the bible? Of course they are, anyone who doesn’t support bringing back the Spanish Inquisition isn’t following the teachings of the bible.

This is one point where some members of the christian cult often fall flat on their face — the fundamentalists are reading the textbook right, you’re not. The judeochristian god irrefutably likes it when you kill infidels, whether you like it or not, that’s “god’s will”. To refuse to kill infidels is to disobey god’s word. To teach things that contradict the bible is evil, and you’re going to hell for doing so. Luckily, it’s a book of poetry and myth, not the work of an all powerful god. Honestly, it sounds more like the Jews have alien friends which help them kill their enemies.

If you want to make your own decisions about the world, you’re going to have to pick a new belief system, or make your own. You jesus-worshippers are incapable of making your own decisions without being a hypocrite and saying that “this book is absolutely true (except for those parts advocating murder which I disagree with).”

Creationists claim neanderthals were just modern humans with rickets or arthritis. This has been refuted and it doesn’t damage creationist theory, because creationists don’t have a theory, just baseless claims.

-Ancient Latin DictumAuthor Unknown

Tara,You do well to believe in a First Cause since an infinite regression of cause and effect is completely irrational.

True. But my point still stands. Before evolutionists held the belief that Neanderthals were Homo Sapiens direct ancestors because they looked like us. The recent discovery that they are not our direct ancestors genetically, shows the vulnerability of evolutionary theory. Which is the major premise of my past arguments against it.

Tara,

While I do admire your sense of humor, I believe the burden of proof lies on the evolutionists side. That is unless you want me to take evolution… BY FAITH!Come on now Tara, you still have to show us the Missing Link; and don’t be a wiseguy and say it’s Dubya!

I can believe in a First Cause (nothing else makes sense!) and the random mutations not being so random (inspired or guided, if you will)…but I absolutely would not want that taught in schools as science. There’s no harm in people on a lowly blog thinking the earth was created in 6 days or something–the problem is when people like this insist that their theory get treated like something it is not. And then make death threats when they’re shot down.Yikes.

BWAHAHAHA! When I see with my two eyes monkeys transforming into men, I will disavow evolution. Because such a feat would be completely, utterly, categorically opposed to evolution and would actually provide some solid proof that “God did it without evolution and He is pretty pissed that you got it wrong.”

Darwin’s theory has about 130 years of evidence behind it. If ID really wants to disprove evolution, they’d better get started. Take every single supporting piece of evidence and refute it, piece by piece. Replace each hypothesis with something equally or more sound, supported by more evidence. Once there are too many holes in the theory for it to hold up, science will debate for a while and perhaps agree on another. That’s how the game works. Otherwise, it’s just not science.

It’s going to take a lot more than screaming “IRREDUCIBLE COMPLEXITY” every now and then. You’ve got a huge mountain of evidence to tackle! Better get started…

What age-old secular progressive dogma? Eevrything I have read states that homo sapiens came out of Africa thousands of years after Neanderthal and supplanted Neanderthal in Europe. H. sapiens also supplanted H. erectus in Asia.

You are unaware of the famous illustration of the evolution of man from great ape to Cro-Magnon, to Neanderthal, to Modern Man that exists in every high-school science textbook?

and you’re saying I am ignorant of evolutionary theory? Doug, get off the internet, and read a book. It’ll be good for you! :)

btw,It has been recently discovered that Neanderthals are genetically NOT RELATED to modern-day humans. Do you know what that means? It means that the age-old secular progressive dogma that modern man descended from Neanderthals is FALSE! Of course in America, we want our kids to be stupid and closed-minded, that’s why we still teach that modern man descended from Neanderthals despite the evidence anainst it!

And we wonder why China is beating us in science scores…(chanting)USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

When I see with my own two eyes monkeys transforming into men I will give credence to Darwin’s theory.

After all… EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE is the basis of any and all of the natural sciences. EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE is the litmus test in developing sound scientific teaching. So you people who think highly of your intellectual faculties think it utterly moronic to believe that the universe had a First Cause (An Uncaused Cause) and that such a First Cause was responsible for the creation of the universe; but you believe it to be completely rational and sane when you retain the beliefs that monkeys turn into men?

and then you will say that we look foolish?

Courtney,

What is your definition of “sane” religious indoctrination?

I bet your answer would be secular progressivism.