Brownback on torture — give him time

Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., told The Eagle’s Alan Bjerga Wednesday that he still hasn’t made up his mind whether to support or oppose President Bush’s attempts to legally sanction interrogation techniques such as sleep deprivation, stress positions and other practices that opponents say amount to torture.
“We will not walk away from our Geneva Convention obligations,” he said. “I want to listen to what my colleagues have to say.”
It’s good he’s listening, but as we said in Tuesday’s editorial, it would be better if this conservative champion of human rights were leading on this issue.
Or have Brownback’s presidential aspirations complicated his moral principles?
Posted by Randy Scholfield

14 Comments

  1. Paul F. Rosell
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17148

    Dont televised beheadings violate the Geneva Conventions?

  2. Mrage
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Specifically using torture tactics naming, position, and techique harms the Geneva Convention’s vagueness.

    What’s good torture to Bush can be interperted and altered by other countries. Their positions and sleep deprivation techniques are not the same for American soldier captured. Vagueness allows less to happen, basic human rights exist for prisoners.

    Brownie is a waffle if he can’t choose between right and wrong on this topic. Pick a side Senator.

    If he’s waiting until the political winds change in November, that’s too late and obvious. He’s being a rubber stamp guy for what Bush wants.

  3. GaryC.
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    Brownback is just an ambitious HACK!! And his failure to take a position on this proves it.

    Dont take this guy seriously!!! That is if you ever did.

  4. Nathan
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 3:54 am | Permalink

    Randy,

    You incorrectly assert that taking a position in favor of Bush would somehow be contrary to Brownback’s moral principles.

    Lets wait to see what Brownback actually says instead of you jumping the gun.

  5. TRACY
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 6:12 am | Permalink

    Paul you complete and total nincompoop.Beheadings having nothing to do with Brownback’s support of the law.You are suggesting that since terrorists use this tactic, we should also engage in barbaric tactics.I am amazed at your inability to form a coherent, honest argument.I’m embarrassed for you, since you seem to have no shame.

  6. Ben Huie
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    Yes, Paul, they violate Geneva. Therefore I am now fully justified in ignoring the Conventions. The carr Brothers murdered people; therefore I am justified if I murder you.

    (Sarcasm off)

  7. Alden Wilner
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    meta-comment: Can we avoid the ad-hominem arguments? Please?

  8. TRACY
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Alden-apparently not.

  9. Steve
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Brownback will never let his morals get in the way of his ambition. After a few days of waffling, he will decide that Bush is correct and that torture in the name of national security is just fine. WWJD if he was running for President? Does a moralist like Brownback actually mean what he says or are his ethics carefully calculated to further his career? Is God watching only when the cameras are on?

  10. Posted September 21, 2006 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    It must be a hard decision to weigh. On one hand changing the law opens the way for nations everywhere to torture Americans and hold mock trials in kangaroo courts, the other gets votes from sadistic, anti-American, morally bankrupt people who enjoy seeing people suffer. It’s perplexing that someone actually has to think about their choice in the matter.

  11. CR
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    The only time Brownback has moral principles is when he is hoodwinking the Christian Conservatives for their votes.

    Brownback is ambitious and wants the White House prize. His power and ego will kick in at some point and he will be going for the jugular to get what he wants.

  12. Wiseman
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Why worry about Brownback?He is a bible thumping pro-illegal overly ambitious jackass whom is going to get his butt kick out of office in the next election.

  13. steve
    Posted September 21, 2006 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    He’ll have to phrase his position so it can be interpreted as “torturing for Good”, or “Torturing for God”.

  14. Posted September 22, 2006 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    Here’s an article on the torture that CONservative Rethuglicans love so much:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5368360.stm

    Yeah, we brought freedom to Iraq so they could be tortured without restraint. Paul thinks being tortured with a power drill is no big deal, anyone want to torture Paul a bit, he’ll love it.