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	<title>Comments on: Where one votes shouldn&#8217;t deter voting</title>
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		<title>By: hotlick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64085</link>
		<dc:creator>hotlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The states where voter turn out is the best is in the Northern (cold) states and lower in the warmer states.  No excuses for not voting.  The libs will supply plenty of the excuses when things don&#039;t go there way.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The states where voter turn out is the best is in the Northern (cold) states and lower in the warmer states.  No excuses for not voting.  The libs will supply plenty of the excuses when things don&#8217;t go there way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64084</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little perspective....

Voters in Iraq WALKED to all polls because the use of cars was banned. Furthermore, they did so while their lives were at high risk. AND they had significantly higher turnout than we could dream of in the US.

Are we really that offended by voting in churches? You could have voted early in another location.

Do you know one factor politicians intensely fear? RAIN!!! In American we don&#039;t vote because it RAINS!!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little perspective&#8230;.</p>
<p>Voters in Iraq WALKED to all polls because the use of cars was banned. Furthermore, they did so while their lives were at high risk. AND they had significantly higher turnout than we could dream of in the US.</p>
<p>Are we really that offended by voting in churches? You could have voted early in another location.</p>
<p>Do you know one factor politicians intensely fear? RAIN!!! In American we don&#8217;t vote because it RAINS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: hotlick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64083</link>
		<dc:creator>hotlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted in a church and it only burned my skin just a little.  I even got to see Jim &quot;Old Flik&quot; Erickson helping out at the polls.Everything went smoothly.  Being a Republican in Riverside is like being a Democrat in Kansas.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted in a church and it only burned my skin just a little.  I even got to see Jim &#8220;Old Flik&#8221; Erickson helping out at the polls.Everything went smoothly.  Being a Republican in Riverside is like being a Democrat in Kansas.</p>
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		<title>By: hotlick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64082</link>
		<dc:creator>hotlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes they do exist.  It is my opinion that everybody should not vote.  If you are not informed or if you are not aware of all the media blitz telling us all how and when we can vote, I hope they stay home.  There are excuses for a lot of things, but not voting if you want to should be an excuse that should be ridiculed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes they do exist.  It is my opinion that everybody should not vote.  If you are not informed or if you are not aware of all the media blitz telling us all how and when we can vote, I hope they stay home.  There are excuses for a lot of things, but not voting if you want to should be an excuse that should be ridiculed.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm ...</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64081</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There simply are not enough public buildings of this sort to accomodate all the voting places.  I agree with hotlick that the system in place works reasonably well using churches, schools, etc etc etc.

We have a church in walking distance from my home; we do not have a government building that close.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There simply are not enough public buildings of this sort to accomodate all the voting places.  I agree with hotlick that the system in place works reasonably well using churches, schools, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>We have a church in walking distance from my home; we do not have a government building that close.</p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn Tolle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64080</link>
		<dc:creator>Vaughn Tolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hotlick, what you say is true; but there are those who think they must vote on Election Day, and for those, access to the polls needs to be made easier. Some folks are reluctant to contact the parties for rides to the polls, etc.; for some, it is pride. Not valid excuses, to be sure; but they exist.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hotlick, what you say is true; but there are those who think they must vote on Election Day, and for those, access to the polls needs to be made easier. Some folks are reluctant to contact the parties for rides to the polls, etc.; for some, it is pride. Not valid excuses, to be sure; but they exist.</p>
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		<title>By: hotlick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64079</link>
		<dc:creator>hotlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The system has worked for a very long time and has even been made easier.  One can vote early in person or early via mail or somebody will come and pick you up and take you to the polls.  There is absolutely no excuse for not voting if you want to vote.  I am seeing a lot of excuse making on this blog.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The system has worked for a very long time and has even been made easier.  One can vote early in person or early via mail or somebody will come and pick you up and take you to the polls.  There is absolutely no excuse for not voting if you want to vote.  I am seeing a lot of excuse making on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn Tolle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64078</link>
		<dc:creator>Vaughn Tolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joyce, while I am in general agreement with you, there is one small factual misstatement you made. The East Lincoln bus goes right by the polling place you mentioned, on Lincoln; surely, not too convenient, as the passenger wanting to vote there has to walk into Mt St Mary&#039;s from the street; and, the East Lincoln route runs hourly, for the most part. But, it is served by public transportation, albeit poorly; unlike several other polling places around Wichita (the Northwest and Southwest sides of town come to mind, in particular).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyce, while I am in general agreement with you, there is one small factual misstatement you made. The East Lincoln bus goes right by the polling place you mentioned, on Lincoln; surely, not too convenient, as the passenger wanting to vote there has to walk into Mt St Mary&#8217;s from the street; and, the East Lincoln route runs hourly, for the most part. But, it is served by public transportation, albeit poorly; unlike several other polling places around Wichita (the Northwest and Southwest sides of town come to mind, in particular).</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce Brodie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64077</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyce Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be law that all voting locations be held in a publicly owned (city, state, or federal) building, and not located in private homes, nursing homes, churches, hospitals, monasteries, private schools, or private businesses.

These locations should also be accessible within a 100-yard radius of public transportation in order to assure that all citizens have equal access to voting locations.

I voted today in a location that was a very isolated location, with no public transportation Mt Saint Mary&#039;s - Marian Hall, 3700 E Lincoln, Wichita, KS, which was quite a distance from the public streets.  Seems only accessible via car and with limited parking space.  This location is unacceptable to the general public and discourages voting from our poorest citizens as there is no easy way to get there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be law that all voting locations be held in a publicly owned (city, state, or federal) building, and not located in private homes, nursing homes, churches, hospitals, monasteries, private schools, or private businesses.</p>
<p>These locations should also be accessible within a 100-yard radius of public transportation in order to assure that all citizens have equal access to voting locations.</p>
<p>I voted today in a location that was a very isolated location, with no public transportation Mt Saint Mary&#8217;s &#8211; Marian Hall, 3700 E Lincoln, Wichita, KS, which was quite a distance from the public streets.  Seems only accessible via car and with limited parking space.  This location is unacceptable to the general public and discourages voting from our poorest citizens as there is no easy way to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Traveler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64076</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Traveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 05:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heck, I live in Palm Springs, California, and, when I go to my polling place, it&#039;s not there anymore. They switch them almost every election without notice.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, I live in Palm Springs, California, and, when I go to my polling place, it&#8217;s not there anymore. They switch them almost every election without notice.</p>
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		<title>By: sotheysaid</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64075</link>
		<dc:creator>sotheysaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We could have the ability to vote any where in the city if the State would pass the requirement for photo ID&#039;s.  It was passed by the legislature but the Governor vetoed it.

With our schools being so over crowed and their parking lots so full it only makes sense not to be at the schools.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could have the ability to vote any where in the city if the State would pass the requirement for photo ID&#8217;s.  It was passed by the legislature but the Governor vetoed it.</p>
<p>With our schools being so over crowed and their parking lots so full it only makes sense not to be at the schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64074</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would all of the people that believe that forcing people to go to a church to vote is not a problem feel the same way if their polling place was located in an adult bookstore or stripclub?

IMO, forcing someone to enter a place that makes them uncomfortable or that they find offensive in order to vote should not be a part of the political process.  If we are forced to vote in a church, the church should be required to remove or cover all of the crosses, symbols, bibles and other literature on election day.  You cannot be a polling place and a house of worship at the same time.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would all of the people that believe that forcing people to go to a church to vote is not a problem feel the same way if their polling place was located in an adult bookstore or stripclub?</p>
<p>IMO, forcing someone to enter a place that makes them uncomfortable or that they find offensive in order to vote should not be a part of the political process.  If we are forced to vote in a church, the church should be required to remove or cover all of the crosses, symbols, bibles and other literature on election day.  You cannot be a polling place and a house of worship at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64073</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Oregon can do voting better then why can&#039;t Kansas?  Also - if a person votes in a church and then starts receing mail from that church - then did that person really cast a secret ballot?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Oregon can do voting better then why can&#8217;t Kansas?  Also &#8211; if a person votes in a church and then starts receing mail from that church &#8211; then did that person really cast a secret ballot?</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64072</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy......Ernest Benn
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy&#8230;&#8230;Ernest Benn</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64071</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POT IN EVERY CHICKEN!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POT IN EVERY CHICKEN!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64070</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just remember julie - in chicago they have to keep the polls open two hours after sunset.  That allows enough time for the dead to rise and vote!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember julie &#8211; in chicago they have to keep the polls open two hours after sunset.  That allows enough time for the dead to rise and vote!</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64069</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty close.The way I heard it was:Vote early and vote often.

I still like my slogan:SELL LEG, NOT ARMS!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty close.The way I heard it was:Vote early and vote often.</p>
<p>I still like my slogan:SELL LEG, NOT ARMS!!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64068</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Tracy since you&#039;re older than I am I&#039;m hoping you remember the correct phrasing.

&quot;Vote early and often&quot;

Is this the right phrasing?  Something about Chicago(?) and stuffing the ballot box.My brain isn&#039;t functioning quite normally today - sorry.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Tracy since you&#8217;re older than I am I&#8217;m hoping you remember the correct phrasing.</p>
<p>&#8220;Vote early and often&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this the right phrasing?  Something about Chicago(?) and stuffing the ballot box.My brain isn&#8217;t functioning quite normally today &#8211; sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64067</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like if I vote online,I get to vote twice! HA
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like if I vote online,I get to vote twice! HA</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64066</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, with this (logic?), if I vote in a grocery store, I&#039;m more likely to consume commercial food products??If I vote in the fire station, will I be more likely to be an arsonist?If I vote at the courthouse would I be more likely a defendant?Hmmmm......
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, with this (logic?), if I vote in a grocery store, I&#8217;m more likely to consume commercial food products??If I vote in the fire station, will I be more likely to be an arsonist?If I vote at the courthouse would I be more likely a defendant?Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64065</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, with this (logic?), if I vote in a grocery store, I&#039;m more likely to consume commercial food products??If I vote in the fire station, will I be more likely to be an arsonist?If I vote at the courthouse would I be more likely a defendant?Hmmmm......
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, with this (logic?), if I vote in a grocery store, I&#8217;m more likely to consume commercial food products??If I vote in the fire station, will I be more likely to be an arsonist?If I vote at the courthouse would I be more likely a defendant?Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64064</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my home town I voted at a grocery store.  Voting locations were in public buildings like schools or malls, nary a church to be used.  How ironic to go into a church to vote when the entire purpose of a church is to subvert the authority of the people for the authority of a priestly class.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my home town I voted at a grocery store.  Voting locations were in public buildings like schools or malls, nary a church to be used.  How ironic to go into a church to vote when the entire purpose of a church is to subvert the authority of the people for the authority of a priestly class.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64063</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems a very silly concern. If your vote is affected based on where your polling place is located, do us all a favor and please just stay home.&quot;

Okay... let&#039;s have polling in slaughterhouses, sewage treatment plants, along airport runways, noisy factories, etc...

Polling at large apartments is convenient for residents, and surrounding neighbors.  Early polling at a neighborhood grocery store is also handy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems a very silly concern. If your vote is affected based on where your polling place is located, do us all a favor and please just stay home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay&#8230; let&#8217;s have polling in slaughterhouses, sewage treatment plants, along airport runways, noisy factories, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Polling at large apartments is convenient for residents, and surrounding neighbors.  Early polling at a neighborhood grocery store is also handy.</p>
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		<title>By: gwbush</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64062</link>
		<dc:creator>gwbush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I HAVE TO AGREE, I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT MANY WEAK MINDED PEOPLE THAT VOTE!&quot;

Sorry, R.A., what country do you live in?

Your dictator,GW Bush
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I HAVE TO AGREE, I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT MANY WEAK MINDED PEOPLE THAT VOTE!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, R.A., what country do you live in?</p>
<p>Your dictator,GW Bush</p>
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		<title>By: Right Angle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/where_one_votes/#comment-64061</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Angle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems a very silly concern. If your vote is affected based on where your polling place is located, do us all a favor and please just stay home.&quot;

I HAVE TO AGREE, I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT MANY WEAK MINDED PEOPLE THAT VOTE!

The county should have to pay rent to the churches to keep the separation of church and state.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems a very silly concern. If your vote is affected based on where your polling place is located, do us all a favor and please just stay home.&#8221;</p>
<p>I HAVE TO AGREE, I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT MANY WEAK MINDED PEOPLE THAT VOTE!</p>
<p>The county should have to pay rent to the churches to keep the separation of church and state.</p>
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