Should No. 43 send Nos. 41 and 42 to Mideast?

Many in the United States are afraid to connect the dots between what’s going on in Iraq and Lebanon. Not Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. He warned on CBS’ "Face the Nation" Sunday that Islamic extremists throughout the region are using the Israeli-Palestinian issue "for unholy purposes," and he noted that our strongest allies in the region — Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt — have been telling the Bush administration that this is a regional conflict. The connections were clear in Friday’s pro-Hezbollah demonstrations in Baghdad. Hagel said Iran and Syria can’t be viewed separately either. "That means engagement, that means direct talks, and put all of it on the table," he said. Most remarkably, Hagel called for President Bush to get his father and Bill Clinton involved and "try to impanel a regional security conference, a regional diplomatic conference."
Posted by Rhonda Holman

24 Comments

  1. writerdog
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 3:03 am | Permalink

    In the book I am reading “the secret history of the Iraq war”The author has said so much, that Iran, arfat and the syrains knew more about the upcoming invasion of Iraq then most Americans. And saw it as a way to a regional conflict. A pracy war with the U.S. and Isreal. Yes Lebanon is part of their plan.

    Bush has underestmated the mindset of the Arabs. To quote the author “we are fighting this war in english while the arabs are fighting it in arabic”.

    Basicly they have taken advantage of Bush’s pre-occuption with invading Iraq and used it to gather support for a regional war with the U.S.

  2. Joe Williams
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 5:50 am | Permalink

    You would wonder people like Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Charles Schumer, Carl Levin, Russ Feingold, Herb Kohl, Ron Wyden and many Democrats in the House that are Jewish and have sworn their allegiance to Israel have said anything or done anything about a cease fire?

  3. steve
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    Ex Clinton official going to N.K., talk of getting 41& 43 to straighten out the mid-east. Admit it folks, 42 is incompetent!

  4. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. is a “front man” for the Zionists of Israel and a traitor to the United States. Along with Bush, Hagel helped plan the invasion of Lebanon. He lied when he said that Hezbollah started this so-called war, clearly it was started by Zionist-Israel. Hezbollah rockets were fired after Israel planes and artillery commenced destroying Lebanon.

    The only “peace plans” being offered by Hagel amount to an unconditional surrender with an occupation by the Zionists.

    It’s a shame that American TV allows the bullshitters like Hagel to appear on TV and lie to the American People, but I think that the American People are finally wising-up.

  5. Smoking Joe
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    You can’t solve a problem that the US doesn’t want solved no matter whom you send.

  6. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    The cost of the bombs dropped on Lebanon, for no good reason, would have paid for prescriptions for seniors.

    Israel is a pain in the ass, and needs to be on their own. Then they would stop thinking that their shit doesn’t stink, and be forced to behave like humans.

  7. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Bush is an Idiot with only the remanence of an alcohol-soaked brain. He can’t think straight, that’s why he stumbles over his words.

    He can read a speech with little idea what it means.

    He belongs in the funny farm.

  8. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    The American People want this problem solved without any more killing, but Bush and Omert don’t.

    They were made to go to Hell.

  9. Heckler
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Victor Davis Hanson”When I used to read about the 1930s — the Italian invasion of Abyssinia, the rise of fascism in Italy, Spain, and Germany, the appeasement in France and Britain, the murderous duplicity of the Soviet Union, and the racist Japanese murdering in China — I never could quite figure out why, during those bleak years, Western Europeans and those in the United States did not speak out and condemn the growing madness, if only to defend the millennia-long promise of Western liberalism. ”

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDBhMzg5Mzk4NjQ5MjM5OTJhZjRjMWQ4OWMzNDhmMzk=

    Open your eye’s people.

    Of course only time can tell if this is fear mongering. Should we just wait and see?—–
    More from Hanson

    “Our present generation too is on the brink of moral insanity. That has never been more evident than in the last three weeks, as the West has proven utterly unable to distinguish between an attacked democracy that seeks to strike back at terrorist combatants, and terrorist aggressors who seek to kill civilians. “

  10. Dan Warren
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Hagel also said today that Bush and Iraq are “ruining” the U.S. Army which is absolutely true. Bush has trashed the Nat’l Guard which should be used only as a reserve and avaliable for domestic duties like disaster aid. The Guard should not be deployed on a regular basis as it has since the Gulf War of 1991.

  11. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    The Israelis are playing us for fools, while some buy into it, others do not…….

    Count yourself foolish?……

  12. .morg
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm

    Number of deaths for leading causes of death

    Heart Disease: 685,089

    Cancer: 556,902

    Stroke: 157,689

    Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 126,382

    Accidents (unintentional injuries): 109,277

    Diabetes: 74,219

    Influenza/Pneumonia: 65,163

    Alzheimer’s disease: 63,457

    Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 42,453

    Septicemia: 34,069

    Ok, heckler my eyes are open. Here are leading causes of death in America. No Arabs here, tobacco and obesity are more of a terrorist threat than anything I see out there.

  13. Heckler
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    .morg

    Carry on, ignorance is bliss.

  14. TRACY
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    good luck morg

    this is like time before the big bang, where logic and reason do not apply

  15. .morg
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    http://www.commondreams.org/views/050400-103.htm

    ah ignorance is bliss

    Every now and then, however, a useful new word emerges from the labyrinth of our secret services. The American media recently started to use the term “blowback.” Central Intelligence Agency officials coined it for internal use in the wake of decisions by the Carter and Reagan administrations to plunge the agency deep into the civil war in Afghanistan. It wasn’t long before the CIA was secretly arming every moujahedeen volunteer in sight, without considering who they were or what their politics might be–all in the name of ensuring that the Soviet Union had its own Vietnam-like experience.

    Not so many years later, these “freedom fighters” began to turn up in unexpected places. They bombed the World Trade Center in New York City, murdered several CIA employees in Virginia and some American businessmen in Pakistan and gave support to Osama bin Laden, a prime CIA “asset” back when our national security advisors had no qualms about giving guns to religious fundamentalists.

  16. Ed Friedemann
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    From The Dallas Morning News front page:

    “The day’s heaviest toll was exacted when Israeli warplanes took aim after sunset at the southern Beirut neighborhood of Shiyah, flattening a crowded six-story apartment building and sending debris flying for blocks. By midnight, at least 20 people had been found dead, Lebanese television reported, and the numbers continued to climb as rescue workers rooted in the rubble in search of survivors or bodies.”

    This was done as a response to Lebanon’s Prime Minster offering to seal the southern border with 15,000 Lebanese troops.

    If there is any doubt that the Israelis are nothing more than animals, read for yourself…….

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/dmn/stories/080806dnintlebanon.67b62b.html

  17. Heckler
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    .morg

    It’s all our fault. Let’s all practice up on our dhimitude

  18. J R
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Heckler I am FAR more afraid of you and those you allow to control your mind with fear than I am of “scary terrorists”.

    People like you are a far greater threat. Good thing is more people are waking up to that fact. You fear mongers are increasingly being seen as more than a little kooky.

  19. Heckler
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    JR

    That’s what a lot of Americans and Europeans were saying in the 30’s as well.

  20. .morg
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Hey Heckler look what some other people were doing during the 30’s

    http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_2

    “Bush – Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951″ – Federal DocumentsBy John Buchanan and Stacey Michaelfrom The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 3, November 7, 2003

    After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, failed to divest himself of more than a dozen “enemy national” relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal.

    Furthermore, the records show that Bush and his colleagues routinely attempted to conceal their activities from government investigators.

    Bush’s partners in the secret web of Thyssen-controlled ventures included former New York Governor W. Averell Harriman and his younger brother, E. Roland Harriman. Their quarter-century of Nazi financial transactions, from 1924-1951, were conducted by the New York private banking firm, Brown Brothers Harriman.

  21. Smoking Joe
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Bush’s uncle I think it was made big money as the first golf course developer in China.

    When the Tienanmen Massacre came along, oh well, bidness is bidness.

    Heigh ho.

  22. RD
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 3:10 am | Permalink

    Should No. 43 send Nos. 41 and 42 to Mideast?

    Might as well. Nobody else seems to give a flying, um, fig.

  23. Steven Davis
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    “Should No. 43 send Nos. 41 and 42 to Mideast?”

    Only on the condition that they agree to keep them.

  24. TRACY
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    HECKLER, BTW, that’s your ass your holding there. Again. Bye-bye.